According to the "peak oil" believers suburbia will be highly affected by rising oil prices. The lifestyle of "working in the city and living in the nature" of USA suburbia is largely dependent on cheap oil the commuters need to drive to and from their working place and home.
Following this thought further logically it means that many of the people living in the suburbia will no longer afford that lifestyle and will be forced to move closer or even back in the city again.

At any case, their prediction is that suburbia is finished and has no future. Why that i ask ? What about public transportation? Cant public transportation solve the problem in this very horror scenario?

According to the "peak oil" believers suburbia will be highly affected by rising oil prices. The lifestyle of "working in the city and living in the nature" of USA suburbia is largely dependent on cheap oil the commuters need to drive to and from their working place and home.
Following this thought further logically it means that many of the people living in the suburbia will no longer afford that lifestyle and will be forced to move closer or even back in the city again.

At any case, their prediction is that suburbia is finished and has no future. Why that i ask ? What about public transportation? Cant public transportation solve the problem in this very horror scenario?

We are way too scattered for public transportation to be effective. I think what's going to happen is that, in a given suburban neighborhood, most will leave while a few stay around and disassemble their neighbors' crumbling houses for scrap, fill in the foundation and use the land for farming/grazing. Also, we'll depave the roads and use the asphalt as fuel for cooking fires/boiling/distilling etc.

It's going to get real ugly here.:eek:

According to the "peak oil" believers suburbia will be highly affected by rising oil prices. The lifestyle of "working in the city and living in the nature" of USA suburbia is largely dependent on cheap oil the commuters need to drive to and from their working place and home.
Following this thought further logically it means that many of the people living in the suburbia will no longer afford that lifestyle and will be forced to move closer or even back in the city again.

At any case, their prediction is that suburbia is finished and has no future. Why that i ask ? What about public transportation? Cant public transportation solve the problem in this very horror scenario?

"Cant public transportation solve the problem in this very horror scenario?"

Nope! It's a simple problem in math. The area of a circle is pi X radius X radius, radius being the distance from the center of your city to your location.

For instance, I live about 5 miles from the center of Denver. That represents an area of about 78 square miles to provide mass transit to. That's not too difficult. I can walk out my front door, and about 60 yards from my house there is a bus stop with a good schedule.

If you try to extend this to the suburbs you've got a radius of at least 25 miles. That's a circle of area of about 1964 square miles, 25 times as great an area as the circle that is defined by my house to downtown.

There will simply never be enough money and other resources to provide good mass transit to suburbia.

Enkidu

As a side: I may be one of the few members of the forum who considers himself a city boy. I love cities, even more, the dense downtown area of cities. Strange, since I grew up on a small farm and chicken ranch. I liked it a lot, but living in Europe for two years spoiled me for cities. I consider Paris the center of the Universe. Of course, in the 1960s and early 70s when I lived in Europe, it was nearly 100% white.

I would shoot myself if I had to move to the suburbs, though I could happily live on a farm again.

So the consensus here is that public trasportation is inefficient for the suburbs?
How that?

Of course it will be unprofitable and largely paid through taxes but its service should be rather good. While buses can cover a small radius, other public transportation can do the longer distances. Think in trains, trolleys, trams, light rail and so on.

Has there been a study about it? The communists or the ecologists should have researched this issue.

At any case, their prediction is that suburbia is finished and has no future. Why that i ask ? What about public transportation? Cant public transportation solve the problem in this very horror scenario?

The other week I was talking to my brother who lives in California and is into that whole global warming nonsense. He's the only one who has told me that gas prices are too low and how he'd like to see public transportation in the form of electric trains going everywhere like in Europe.

Assuming that this happens, is that what we really want?

The automobile is such a major part of the American experience. We are talking about a radical change in our lifestyle.

The other week I was talking to my brother who lives in California and is into that whole global warming nonsense. He's the only one who has told me that gas prices are too low and how he'd like to see public transportation in the form of electric trains going everywhere like in Europe.

Assuming that this happens, is that what we really want?

The automobile is such a major part of the American experience. We are talking about a radical change in our lifestyle.

My sympathies. Your brother is one of those "green" jerks. They worship Europe and think lowly America must become just like them. There are a number of those pushing this ridiculous idea of everyone on trains or bikes. He buys into the scam so it is not surprising that he wants to see gasoline so high that no one can afford it. They are not realistic about anything. As the subhuman population increases and they become increasingly incapable of avoiding them it will be interesting to see how long it takes for their multicult attitudes to begin to crack. I would love to see them shoved into mass transit constantly with hordes of them.