View Full Version : Melcur has given up, and quietly retires from VNN
melcur
April 2nd, 2008, 04:12 AM
After reading this thread and seeing the results of the poll, I've decided the results are probably correct and that VNN doesn't suck, it's just me. http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=70145
So, this will be my last post here. I've retired the curtmaynard's blog too (http://curtmaynardsblog.blogspot.com/).
My only advice is, be really fucking careful who you trust around here.
OTPTT
April 2nd, 2008, 04:25 AM
After reading this thread and seeing the results of the poll, I've decided the results are probably correct and that VNN doesn't suck, it's just me. http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=70145
So, this will be my last post here. I've retired the curtmaynard's blog too (http://curtmaynardsblog.blogspot.com/).
My only advice is, be really fucking careful who you trust around here.
It's not you melcur. I see what's going on here as do others. I'm finished here too. Makes me wonder if White is paying Linder to continue his operation or whether they both are being paid by a third party. It's only an internet forum but it would still be nice to know that we're not just beating our heads against a wall.
Frank Blanc
April 2nd, 2008, 04:40 AM
After reading this thread and seeing the results of the poll, I've decided the results are probably correct and that VNN doesn't suck, it's just me. http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=70145
So, this will be my last post here. I've retired the curtmaynard's blog too (http://curtmaynardsblog.blogspot.com/).
My only advice is, be really fucking careful who you trust around here.
Do not feel bad Melcur; I will be joining you. The sad part is VNN has become so loaded with agent provocateurs, saboteurs, perverts and professional troublemakers that this forum has become a liability to the movement instead of a blessing.
I respect the work of Alex, Mark in Cali, Dietrich, Bud White and of course the late Yankee Jim but a few good apples does not make up for the rotting tree.
You are making a wise choice and I am with you; see ya folks.
Jessica
April 2nd, 2008, 07:42 AM
If you guys leave, you are just giving them what they want.:mad:
Donnachaidh
April 2nd, 2008, 07:42 AM
Stop being a drama queen and get back to work.
John Patrick
April 2nd, 2008, 08:26 AM
I hope you don't leave, especially if you suspect that somehow Bill White or Alex Linder are responsible for exposing your name to the SPLC. While I do agree that Bill White shouldn't have posted the article with your name bolded, there is the arguement that Bill White was posting something that was VERY relevant to VNN since the article mentioned VNN and several of its posters by name. If Bill White didn't pick it up first, someone else would have. Bill White often is first to post these things because he has a very detailed Google News watch list and obviously checks it often. Don't blame the messenger, as they say.
One question though, did Hal Turner know your name?
It's not you melcur. I see what's going on here as do others. I'm finished here too. Makes me wonder if White is paying Linder to continue his operation or whether they both are being paid by a third party. It's only an internet forum but it would still be nice to know that we're not just beating our heads against a wall.
OTPTT
April 2nd, 2008, 08:52 AM
I hope you don't leave, especially if you suspect that somehow Bill White or Alex Linder are responsible for exposing your name to the SPLC. While I do agree that Bill White shouldn't have posted the article with your name bolded, there is the arguement that Bill White was posting something that was VERY relevant to VNN since the article mentioned VNN and several of its posters by name. If Bill White didn't pick it up first, someone else would have. Bill White often is first to post these things because he has a very detailed Google News watch list and obviously checks it often. Don't blame the messenger, as they say.
One question though, did Hal Turner know your name?
35 posts and you're an expert on Bill White and the workings of VNN? How much does he pay you?
John Patrick
April 2nd, 2008, 09:02 AM
Okay, I have changed my mind. Please do leave! :) Bye!
35 posts and you're an expert on Bill White and the workings of VNN? How much does he pay you?
kevinlanning
April 2nd, 2008, 09:06 AM
I first discovered VNN in computer lab in college back in 2002 and the way things have changed since then is amazing. From cutting edge and brutal to ballot box diplomacy. I find it amusing that a man that participated in the Federal Witness Protection program wasn't enough to make any of you quit but Bil White is.
Frank Blanc
April 2nd, 2008, 09:25 AM
If you guys leave, you are just giving them what they want.:mad:
No offense but what value does the VNN forum have when Bill White is permitted to use VNN as his personal soap box to libel other White Nationalists? What good is VNN when the forum bosses allow an obvious agent provocateur to tell the most vicious of lies about other WN'ists on their own medium?
In addition to this; the trolls are allowed to post here and what things do they post! I have observed threads about female police officers having large behinds to perverted threads about whether men like women shaved or not. The "anti-racists" must love such threads because they can use them to prove how sick and twisted the WN'ist movement is at its core.
Any WN'ist that values his reputation is bound to leave this forum considering the current state of the forum. I will say one thing for Stormfront; they would not allow this kind of crap to pollute their servers. Personally, I think Tom Metzger is right; it is better to go it alone! I am formally finished with VNN as of this moment. Alex you are an intelligent man; I hope you eventually restore the dignity of VNN Forum.
John Patrick
April 2nd, 2008, 09:29 AM
Bye! Hold the door for OTPTT and the boogeyman who follows him! :)
I am formally finished with VNN as of this moment. Alex you are an intelligent man; I hope you eventually restore the dignity of VNN Forum.
Phil_88
April 2nd, 2008, 09:43 AM
:p:p:p:p:p:hflol:hflol:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:razz:razz
Joe McGee
April 2nd, 2008, 10:26 AM
It's not you melcur. I see what's going on here as do others. I'm finished here too. Makes me wonder if White is paying Linder to continue his operation or whether they both are being paid by a third party. It's only an internet forum but it would still be nice to know that we're not just beating our heads against a wall.
It seems like many are wondering the very same things at the same time.
AmySikowski
April 2nd, 2008, 11:17 AM
I think this forum is the best one on the internet.
Although Melcur and Donnachaid post lots of good articles, every message board has 2 or 3 people who post 40 new threads a day and anything you post gets moved back down 5 pages within 24 hours, so it never develops. Every message board on the internet is like that, so I accept it, but at least Alex Linder isn't a control freak who gets off on banning people, most message boards exist primarily for the 2 cent thrill of getting to ban people who you don't like or how challenge you in some way, I've seen these schmucks calling Alex out like some cyber-badass and he lets them keep posting, that's a sign he's a truly big man, little men's hands shake and they fumble to find the 'ban' button as fast as they can, then slump over relaxed at the thought of banning the insolent offender.
It just goes to show you though, Alex would make a true leader, a wise judge, whereas the others like Stormfront are just simple minded power-seeking midgets using white nationalism as their own personal front organization.
Odell
April 2nd, 2008, 11:28 AM
I noticed that this forum was full of shit when I first started looking
over members and running ips.
My white female ass may not have great writing skills, but at least
I have bravado as Alex stated and I am happy not to be a part of
his little tea party.
When will you so called men put down your worthless swords(a pen)
and start doing something that will secure the 14words for myself
and my children?
It's heart braking to see that there are few real white men, like my
Ol' man out here.
Fuck what the jew, niggers or other muds are doing!
What matters is what the White man is doing!
Sorry to say this but rally's, forums and things such as this will not
get the job done. Overall they are all a great waste of time, money
and energy.
Good fortune to all here that are true and see through this bullshit.
For the rest all I will say is wake up and stop following nowhere men
to nowhere land!
Odell
MikeTodd
April 2nd, 2008, 11:52 AM
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9669/batillepjgkw0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I'm all for storming the Bastille!
Who's with me?
McKinley
April 2nd, 2008, 12:06 PM
You Fuckers get your asses back an this board and quit being pussies. Do not let Commander Lard Ass run you off.
Just look at lil' Phil's post. He's loving that they were able to make you quit.
Are you going to let a mental midget and a commie decide if you post here?
I have thought of leaving sevral times myself. Damned if I will give them the satisfaction of them thinking they ran me off. If you do not want any thing to do with the mismatch dressing crowd then just ignore them. Do not feed them.
If you want to protest the situation, show it by not supporting the paper or other projects until the commie is banned for good.
Francis Playfair
April 2nd, 2008, 12:12 PM
I'm all for storming the Bastille!
Who's with me?
It's an opera house today, I doubt we'd achieve much by storming it :p
http://tip2trip.com/img/data/opera-bastille/stan/174_7440.JPG
mgbrashear3@aol.com
April 2nd, 2008, 12:16 PM
You Fuckers get your asses back an this board and quit being pussies. Do not let Commander Lard Ass run you off.
Just look at lil' Phil's post. He's loving that they were able to make you quit.
Are you going to let a mental midget and a commie decide if you post here?
I have thought of leaving sevral times myself. Damned if I will give them the satisfaction of them thinking they ran me off. If you do not want any thing to do with the mismatch dressing crowd then just ignore them. Do not feed them.
If you want to protest the situation, show it by not supporting the paper or other projects until the commie is banned for good.
I second this....no way in hell I would leave the 'good' posters here without some backup...Get your butt's back in action, step up to the plate, never abandon your DEDICATED BROTHERS, & sisters.....Do not give the rejects the satisfaction! :swastikasmiley:
Arktos
April 2nd, 2008, 01:18 PM
So, this will be my last post here.
Yeah sure, whatever :rolleyes:
Look what I found!
http://i30.tinypic.com/2j4cxs3.jpg
Jessica
April 2nd, 2008, 01:19 PM
Yeah sure, whatever :rolleyes:
Look what I found!
http://i30.tinypic.com/2j4cxs3.jpg
That is a mad kitty.
Arktos
April 2nd, 2008, 01:22 PM
That is a mad kitty.
A kitty this young will never shut up! Kinda like you know who.
yankee jane
April 2nd, 2008, 01:32 PM
I noticed that this forum was full of shit when I first started looking
over members and running ips.
Unless you are a mod or an admin and somehow have access to administrative things here, how do you determine another member's ip address?
My white female ass may not have great writing skills, but at least
I have bravado as Alex stated and I am happy not to be a part of
his little tea party.
People here have alluded to Alex and Bill White's "agendas". I have an idea of what they mean about Bill White, but what about Alex - why don't you all elaborate a bit more out in the open? The people who are making half statements without clarification are causing as much trouble as the people (we are only left to guess at who many of them are) they are accusing by creating all kinds of unsubstantiated doubts.
When will you so called men put down your worthless swords(a pen)
and start doing something that will secure the 14words for myself
and my children?
It's heart braking to see that there are few real white men, like my
Ol' man out here.
Fuck what the jew, niggers or other muds are doing!
What matters is what the White man is doing!
Sorry to say this but rally's, forums and things such as this will not
get the job done. Overall they are all a great waste of time, money
and energy.
Good fortune to all here that are true and see through this bullshit.
For the rest all I will say is wake up and stop following nowhere men
to nowhere land!
Odell
Okay, like what? I, for one, am fairly convinced that on the secular WN front there isn't much left that will be effective but "the unspeakable". I doubt that anyone thinks forums are going to stop the problems. They do provide an opportunity for new people to learn a lot and an opportunity for like minded Whites to make contact and are certainly not a waste of time if they are actively being fed with useful and interesting material and conversation.
Frankly, all this "quitting" stuff just sounds a lot like another variation of White Flight. I agree that a lot of things would be better around here cleaned up - some of it has been already, but not all. We still get cow vaginas and other assorted nasty and pointless posts. It would also be nice if obvious disrupters would be stopped quickly in their tracks. There are a few running loose that clearly should be restricted to OV but are not. There are others that should be who aren't quite so clearly jews, antis or muds.
As far as Bill White is concerned, I think he is a contentious enough subject around here that if he is not to be banned, he probably should have his own subforum where he and his can post their materials and be left to that area exclusively. After all, they don't need VNNF, they do have their own forum so it is not like their point of view is being censored and stifled. But frankly, if the strong Bill White haters would stop drawing attention to him, stop visiting and commenting in his posts then his materials here would vanish quickly and little observed into old post limbo.
If you like naming the jew, why don't you like naming the antis, trolls and disrupters? Why don't you call them out by name and accuse - other than calling them a jew or a fed without proof, of course. :D Turn up the heat. Pull a Todd and "Joseph" - PM a posse of good posters and jump them en masse and see if you can drive them out :D Remember, you are at VNNF where pretty much anything goes. I see quite a few complainers here so you already have a ready made group to start with. It took only a handful to harrass Susan into the ground and, while you may be one of the ones who find her irritating for your own reasons, I really don't think she qualifies as an enemy poster.
So you leave VNNF and go to another forum. So what? If that forum ever presents any real activity, which most don't, it too will attract the attention of the enemies, if it has not already. Are you really distressed and surprised that you are being monitored? I think Melcur has been quite active in his anti-Bill White efforts. If you feel the board is rife with enemies, why not apply the same efforts in their direction?
I really don't think the jump and run philosophy that is the core of White Flight ever produces anything but positive ground gain for the enemy.
EireannGoddess
April 2nd, 2008, 02:11 PM
[quote=Odell;752912]I noticed that this forum was full of shit when I first started looking over members and running ips.
How are you managing to "run" ips?
When will you so called men put down your worthless swords(a pen)
and start doing something that will secure the 14words for myself
and my children?
So, no "swords" and no "pens". I would imagine you would have our Men castrated as well,
It's heart braking to see that there are few real white men, like my
Ol' man out here.
Well, we can have all the Men here email him their pens and swords; but NOT their balls - and your "Ol Man" can go fight the good fight for you and the kids by himself.
Fuck what the jew, niggers or other muds are doing!
?
What matters is what the White man is doing!
White Men need to be out securing the jew, the nigger and/or other muds; making sure that we women and our children have a future.
Sorry to say this but rally's, forums and things such as this will not
get the job done. Overall they are all a great waste of time, money
and energy.
You're right. We'll declare your "Ol Man" Fuhrer, he can do everything for us. Just you and him; against the World -
Odell
"ODell" - you sound extremely familiar. I can't place your last syn; but I can sure remember the rhetoric - you sound a lot like KATIEW or Jane Doe 5. in fact.
Anchorage Activist
April 2nd, 2008, 02:30 PM
Melcur - I understand and respect your decision to stand down and take a time out. Sometimes it is necessary to recharge one's emotional batteries in order to more effectively resume the struggle in the future.
We are being censored like never before. Blogger has imposed the "death penalty" on a number of our blogs, including Overthrow88, your own PCApostate, and now my White Reference blog. They didn't even have the dignity to append a Content Warning first; they just arbitrarily cut off public access. Your PCApostate blog also got censored by Wordpress, and now it looks like Michael Burks has also been censored by Wordpress as well. I find myself having to go into Jared Taylor mode to keep the axe from falling on Alaska Pride. I don't like sneaking up on the Jews, but we've got to keep as many lines of communication to the public as possible open.
Good luck, Melcur, and thanks for your contribution to our Cause.
KMRATHELL
April 2nd, 2008, 02:36 PM
I noticed that this forum was full of shit when I first started looking
over members and running ips.
BULLSHIT ALERT
http://re3.yt-thm-a02.yimg.com/image/25/m7/3938641161
Christopher Drake
April 2nd, 2008, 02:43 PM
Melcur can't stand to see Blevins wasting away from lead poisoning. He started thinking Mike was really cool but didn't want to seem like he was supporting Bill. So instead of look bad and at the same time, see Mike die a pointless death, he decided to bail.
yankee jane
April 2nd, 2008, 02:47 PM
Originally Posted by Odell
I noticed that this forum was full of shit when I first started looking
over members and running ips.
BULLSHIT ALERT
http://re3.yt-thm-a02.yimg.com/image/25/m7/3938641161
Excellent! Now here is a perfect example! If you form your little "Todd and Joseph" posse of vigilant VNNF veracity verifiers who can be PM'd and called into action quickly whenever a lurking and clandestine anti, jew, mud, infiltrator, whatever starts pulling BS, the team can be mobilized into a campaign of suppression and removal. Once the cancer has been located and determined, monitor them, follow them, harrass them. Every time they dare to post a comment they will be met with a relentless onslaught of vigilante counter-posts (vigilante justice is quite inapproptriately maligned).
Now, mind you, I am not advocating for this kind of treatment being used indiscriminately or used against people just because you disagree with their opinions. It must be employed very judiciously and responsibly. But there are certainly some who could use "the treatment". :D
White men you need to start learning to work together and to get into the mindset of taking back your territory. Perhaps Alex Linder's motivations in allowing enemies to remain in your midst aren't so sinister. Perhaps he is testing you to see what you do about it. If the forum won't ban them what are you going to do about it? Run or fight?
Jett Rink
April 2nd, 2008, 02:48 PM
https://israelonlinemeds.com
Zoloft (http://www.biopsychiatry.com/sertocd.htm) for only 43 sheckles a month, OY!
Anchorage Activist
April 2nd, 2008, 02:57 PM
I noticed that this forum was full of shit when I first started looking over members and running ips.
Odell
KMRATHELL has a point. This statement, which undermines the rest of your otherwise useful post, trips a major-league red flag. Why would you need or even want to know the IPs of other forum members? We traditionally respect others' privacy here.
Holly
April 2nd, 2008, 05:24 PM
Melcur if you "give up" from the results of some forum poll one has to wonder just what kind of leader you aspire to be.
One must be careful who to trust anywhere, online and in daily life. Forums have cycles, up and downs, and I think when one thinks it is best to stop posting, it is best to just fade away rather than making a drama. In that way you can come back when things are better and not be mocked for saying you are leaving and then come back.
Such is the way I will go, when and if I decide forum posting is not for me.
Those are my thoughts, and I wish you well if you decide to leave. OTPTT also I would be very disappointed if he posted no more.
T.Garrett
April 2nd, 2008, 05:46 PM
Donnachaidh is right Melcur, get back in here and post. I take it as a compliment when people don't like me ...it means I'm doing something right.
Hahaha the primadonnery in here sometimes reaches whiney Stormfront levels girls ...lets go, we have mans work to do.
Odell unless you are a new admin/mod that I'm unaware of, you don't have access to the IP's of the members of this forum so cut the b.s. honey.
Cheers
mgbrashear3@aol.com
April 2nd, 2008, 06:18 PM
Melcur can't stand to see Blevins wasting away from lead poisoning. He started thinking Mike was really cool but didn't want to seem like he was supporting Bill. So instead of look bad and at the same time, see Mike die a pointless death, he decided to bail.
You crack me up! :hflol:hflol:hflol:hflol:hflol:hflol:hflol:hflol
Susan
April 2nd, 2008, 06:33 PM
Looks like we have some "Drama Kings" on VNN as well. Good grief.....you have a bad day and you're ready to leave VNN and throw in the towel. What a whiny baby melcur. I actually enjoy your posts and your blog.....so why give it up? What's the point of being so melodramatic and all?
Yankee Jim's death was a huge blow to a lot here, and most will never fully recover from that terrible terrible incident, but do you think he would want everyone here to go away with their tails tucked between their legs? Well, I'm not.
You babies can do whatever you want to. But, I'm staying and continuing to post when I get the urge, and will join anyone who wishes to partake in some legal rallying around a worthy cause.
Oh, and Yankee Jane, please don't bring me into any of this shit. The reason I left was of my own accord to let things die down and the idiots step back and take a deeeeep breath and calm down. But just for the record, it wasn't just a FEW posters who were after me, it was pretty much every goddamn poster here with a few exceptions. And all for no good reason too. Todd was bored and didn't have a girlfriend or porn to watch that day. So, he went after me.
And for anyone who thinks I am anything near to an enemy poster, I have some swamp land in Florida and some beachfront property in Kansas I would love to sell you. Oh brother.......
Now cut the drama shit and why don't you start thinking about going to Knoxville and doing something that might make a difference to whites. Right now, as I understand it, there aren't enough people to go forward with any event in May. That's a real shame.
And I wouldn't want to see OTPTT leave either. I like him too.
Ιουστινιανός
April 2nd, 2008, 07:16 PM
Well this is fucking bullshit.
Melcur, I hope you reconsider. I've always liked you and I think it would be a great loss for this forum if you left. Same goes for OTPTT.
I wish you the best of luck and I will respect your decision, regardless of what it is.
Steve1957
April 2nd, 2008, 07:47 PM
Susan:
But just for the record, it wasn't just a FEW posters who were after me, it was pretty much every goddamn poster here with a few exceptions.
Yes, it did seem like that at one time. I never did understand why that was. You seem (and seemed) like a pretty decent poster here. You address things relevantly and do not lay down when attacked. You seem both reasonable and entertaining.
As for Melcur, I hope he stays. I like him also.
Jett Rink
April 2nd, 2008, 09:08 PM
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/mhead46/AttentionWhore.jpg
Itz_molecular
April 2nd, 2008, 09:14 PM
After reading this thread and seeing the results of the poll, I've decided the results are probably correct and that VNN doesn't suck, it's just me.
You're too sensitive .
It's Spring . Time to get outside , walk the dog , shoot targets , plant a garden .
We sit here endlessly reinforcing the self-evident , confirming the issues we all know to be true without solving the critical issue of mass white indolence .
It's like being nailed to the Wheel of Karma , forever moving in circles and never going anywhere .
You made sober intelligent posts . Stay true .
.
cknott
April 2nd, 2008, 09:23 PM
Melcur and OTPTT will be missed but joins the dozens of good posters who have left.
If you guys do come back, post your pro-white postings in the OPPOSITION forum. Because that is where real pro-white messages belong on VNN..... I will posting any pro-white threads that I start in the Opposition forum here.
I suggest others who are pro-white in here to do the same and post in Opposition Forum here as a sign that VNN isn't a pro-white forum at all, it's a tool to reveal names, personal data, and attacks against real white nationalists.
cknott
April 2nd, 2008, 09:27 PM
[quote]
How are you managing to "run" ips?
Easy, just imbed a 1x1 white pixel image on any thread in here that looks invisible. Viola!!! You can catch ip numbers!!!!!!!!!!!
T.Garrett
April 2nd, 2008, 10:50 PM
Easy, just imbed a 1x1 white pixel image on any thread in here that looks invisible. Viola!!! You can catch ip numbers!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah but how do you match the IP to the poster after you 'harvest' it cknott?
Thousands of people ...so thousands of IP's ...connect to VNNF everyday, I see the traffic being a 'mod'.
Its a shot in the dark connecting IP to poster here.
I'm not really IT savvy, so if there is a way why don't you enlighten us if you know of one cknott?
Armanen
April 2nd, 2008, 10:58 PM
Melcur and OTPTT will be missed but joins the dozens of good posters who have left.
If you guys do come back, post your pro-white postings in the OPPOSITION forum. Because that is where real pro-white messages belong on VNN..... I will posting any pro-white threads that I start in the Opposition forum here.
I suggest others who are pro-white in here to do the same and post in Opposition Forum here as a sign that VNN isn't a pro-white forum at all, it's a tool to reveal names, personal data, and attacks against real white nationalists.
You know that when you see some phony stuff go down on a forum like this, you can still make us of that forum. Kind of like using your enemies own enrgy against them that they teach in marshal arts, you know what I mean?
Think about what I am telling you, how many pro-white activist have the resources to start there own forum? Not much, but if there is a forum already out there why not take advantage of that fact and use it despite the trolls?
Same goes for you too Melcur think about what I am saying.
varg
April 2nd, 2008, 10:59 PM
Yeah but how do you match the IP to the poster after you 'harvest' it cknott?
Thousands of people ...so thousands of IP's ...connect to VNNF everyday, I see the traffic being a 'mod'.
Its a shot in the dark connecting IP to poster here.
I'm not really IT savvy, so if there is a way why don't you enlighten us if you know of one cknott?
No you're right TG.. technically someone could do that trick to harvest IP addresses.. but it wouldnt matter because only admins and mods can connect them to the username.. so yea that Odell person is full of shit
T.Garrett
April 2nd, 2008, 11:10 PM
No you're right TG.. technically someone could do that trick to harvest IP addresses.. but it wouldnt matter because only admins and mods can connect them to the username.. so yea that Odell person is full of shit
Thought so varg ...thanks for clearing that up for us ;)
Those of you who are concerned about your anonymity here need not worry about it, your identities are secure.
If you have any questions or concerns about anything to do with the forum, PM or email the staff and we will answer you. Dont go off half-cocked believing things some of the posters here tell you about forum security.
All of us on staff here hold your privacy as a sacred trust.
Armanen
April 2nd, 2008, 11:21 PM
I will give you an example of what I am talking about to illustrate my point.
When Israel tried to prop up their puppet, controlled oposition, Fatah they gave Fatah some powerfull weapons to use. This strongly backfired on IsraHel because Hamas proceeded to kick Fatah's ass out of Gaza and captured those weapons from Fatah and used the very weapons that the Israeli occupation forces had provided Fatah with against the IsraHeli Zionist Occupation forces. Thereby defeating them with the very weapons IsraHel had provided with their own resources in the first place. Hint..hint.
We are the Hamas and Hezbollah to the trolls Fatah and the VNN is the weapon in our hands.
cknott
April 2nd, 2008, 11:27 PM
Yeah but how do you match the IP to the poster after you 'harvest' it cknott?
Maybe that isn't the goal, maybe it's just to collect ip addresses. Not that in itself means anything though, if you use yahoo or google, they already got them. Both record your searches and associate them to ip numbers... if you use the email, assume they got a full copy of any of them.
Well the count of how many people and bots visit a thread is right on the page itself, most threads come nowhere near close to a 1,000 views. I guess to connect ips to a user, one could simply just study the posting habits and times and deduct from that. I don't think any agency or person is going to do that here. There really is nothing illegal going on here and certainly not enough real WN for law enforcement to worry about. Law enforcement really worries about those who never post on the web.
I'll just say this... assume that your ip on VNN (or any other forum) is going right into the hands of law enforcement.. so don't say anything on here or any other forum that you wouldn't tell law enforcement directly yourself.
Good advice for anyone on any forum to follow.
All of us on staff here hold your privacy as a sacred trust.
Then why does this forum allow certain members to reveal the real names of posters in here without them being deleted and the offender banned? You've got to be consistent and honestly, you're not. Certain posters protected by Alex get away with that in here and you know it. OTPTT's real name was revealed here and you guys did nothing about it. IN fact, it's still easily available for anyone who goes the Fag lounge. Good grief.
Armanen
April 2nd, 2008, 11:34 PM
Thought so varg ...thanks for clearing that up for us ;)
Those of you who are concerned about your anonymity here need not worry about it, your identities are secure.
If you have any questions or concerns about anything to do with the forum, PM or email the staff and we will answer you. Dont go off half-cocked believing things some of the posters here tell you about forum security.
All of us on staff here hold your privacy as a sacred trust.
I don't worry about if someone did find out who I am anyway I don't have any prestigious position or worldy richs and damn few matarial possesions anyway.
Even if worse came to worse I am perpared to lay down my life, I have made my peace with my Maker I don't fear death. We all got to go some time better go out standing tall that living your life cringing in fear from a bogus super-powerfull boogeyman that is mostly a blow hard. Can the anti-white atheist communist and matrialist rich boys and jews really say the same thing, about being prepared to meet the Almighty on judgement day? I seriously doubt it.
Besides that look how many White activist have been well know and even famous yet continue to go on through out the years and keep fighting, they were "outed" years ago and even a lot worse but many of them are still going strong today, even with all the poison arrows fired in their direction.
cknott
April 2nd, 2008, 11:41 PM
Actually it just dawned on me how easy it is to associate an ip with a poster here.
Ever notice when you post something, it takes you back to the thread?? Since posts here have a time on them.... it would be real simple to simply associate the time of the post to the time the 1x1 hidden image was accessed.
mgbrashear3@aol.com
April 2nd, 2008, 11:50 PM
I don't worry about if someone did find out who I am anyway I don't have any prestigious position or worldy richs and damn few matarial possesions anyway.
Even if worse came to worse I am perpared to lay down my life, I have made my peace with my Maker I don't fear death. We all got to go some time better go out standing tall that living your life cringing in fear from a bogus super-powerfull boogeyman that is mostly a blow hard. Can the anti-white atheist communist and matrialist rich boys and jews really say the same thing, about being prepared to meet the Almighty on judgement day? I seriously doubt it.
Besides that look how many White activist have been well know and even famous yet continue to go on through out the years and keep fighting, they were "outed" years ago and even a lot worse but many of them are still going strong today, even with all the poison arrows fired in their direction.
Yeah...Look at me...I'm still alive. I'm in the process of making a portfolio for the Hate Watch groups. I'm going to post it on all the websites I subscribe to. Everything from my shoe size to how many sex partners I've had...my husband says I am crazy....noooooooooo....not me. :eek:
T.Garrett
April 2nd, 2008, 11:51 PM
Maybe that isn't the goal, maybe it's just to collect ip addresses. Not that in itself means anything though, if you use yahoo or google, they already got them. Both record your searches and associate them to ip numbers... if you use the email, assume they got a full copy of any of them.
Well the count of how many people and bots visit a thread is right on the page itself, most threads come nowhere near close to a 1,000 views. I guess to connect ips to a user, one could simply just study the posting habits and times and deduct from that. I don't think any agency or person is going to do that here. There really is nothing illegal going on here and certainly not enough real WN for law enforcement to worry about. Law enforcement really worries about those who never post on the web.
Hahaha, that last statement is right on the money. They know that talkers very seldom do anything but talk.
Check this out:
http://boardreader.com/sp/www_vnnforum_com_11582.html
Gives you an idea how many post here everyday, member activity etc.
I'll just say this... assume that your ip on VNN (or any other forum) is going right into the hands of law enforcement.. so don't say anything on here or any other forum that you wouldn't tell law enforcement directly yourself.
Good advice for anyone on any forum to follow."Good advice" but a little paranoid dontcha think?
Then why does this forum allow certain members to reveal the real names of posters in here without them being deleted and the offender banned? You've got to be consistent and honestly, you're not. Certain posters protected by Alex get away with that in here and you know it. OTPTT's real name was revealed here and you guys did nothing about it. IN fact, it's still easily available for anyone who goes the Fag lounge. Good grief.If you ...or any other poster ...see a violation of our rules that we overlook, point it out to us. We don't catch everything that happens on the board.
Why didn't OTPTT report it? Why didn't you before tonight? This is the first Ive heard of it.
Give me a link to the post cknott.
Armanen
April 2nd, 2008, 11:51 PM
Actually it just dawned on me how easy it is to associate an ip with a poster here.
Ever notice when you post something, it takes you back to the thread?? Since posts here have a time on them.... it would be real simple to simply associate the time of the post to the time the 1x1 hidden image was accessed.
What are you trying to do give the anti's clues to figuring out IP's ? lol
Like I said I realy ain't worried about it if they did guess who I am, I have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
I may even give my real name myself, I am Bobcat Goldwait there! heheh
yankee jane
April 3rd, 2008, 12:01 AM
Thought so varg ...thanks for clearing that up for us ;)
Those of you who are concerned about your anonymity here need not worry about it, your identities are secure.
If you have any questions or concerns about anything to do with the forum, PM or email the staff and we will answer you. Dont go off half-cocked believing things some of the posters here tell you about forum security.
All of us on staff here hold your privacy as a sacred trust.
Hmmm ... that white pixel stuff sounded like a little of the old ooga booga :D but in any event, you mean there are people around not using proxies?? :) ;)
T.Garrett
April 3rd, 2008, 12:20 AM
Actually it just dawned on me how easy it is to associate an ip with a poster here.
Ever notice when you post something, it takes you back to the thread?? Since posts here have a time on them.... it would be real simple to simply associate the time of the post to the time the 1x1 hidden image was accessed.
Yeah, I suppose its technically possible to do what you describe here. But in a popular thread there might be dozens or even hundreds of connects at the same time (reading or posting), how would you sort them out to narrow it to the poster?
Really, the only way to associate an IP with a poster is to be an admin or mod on the forum.
T.Garrett
April 3rd, 2008, 12:32 AM
Hmmm ... that white pixel stuff sounded like a little of the old ooga booga :D but in any event, you mean there are people around not using proxies?? :) ;)
What he described is a possible way of catching IP addresses using an 'invisible' image on a messageboard Jane. But its very unlikely that anyone would ever be able to sort through their 'catch' and associate an IP with a name. They would end up with a big list of IP's with only one that they could identify 100% ...their own. ;)
If we saw a connection that looked suspiciously like it was 'working' the forum in this way, we would ban it.
Hahaha, I don't use a proxy ...I use my name here!
Come n git me zoggy! Itz a good day to die! :rofl
Mike Parker
April 3rd, 2008, 06:34 AM
Are you also resigning your command of the ANSWP? That can't be allowed to fall into the wrong hands.
Drew
April 3rd, 2008, 12:59 PM
Are you also resigning your command of the ANSWP? That can't be allowed to fall into the wrong hands.
LOL! .
D. Fitzgerald
April 3rd, 2008, 02:43 PM
LOL...'bon fucking voyage' to the attention whores exiting VNNF on this thread. So much fail...
Signe
April 3rd, 2008, 02:55 PM
Some people elbow their way around VNNF trying to make you an embittered nonentity and you let them have their way? :rolleyes: Your commentary is good, Melcur, and I would not want to see the blogs go down.
Flame Baiter
April 3rd, 2008, 09:11 PM
From Wiki,
Baiters:
On Internet forums, baiting is sometimes used in attempts to empty forums or reduce a forum's usage. This type of baiting is usually done to make the atmosphere of a forum appear unpleasant or to make forum owners, moderators and long-time users look foolish. A person using this kind of baiting may post comments to elicit rude responses from prominent members of a forum, thus making the responding member or members appear as trolls or flamers to bystanders. As a result, forum users in general may become disgusted and leave the forum.
Classic baiting going on here! That's just pulled from Wiki, and it's so appropriate.
But, I can tell you this, Melcur, OTPTT, and others. Please go on other forums and get the word out! The opposition is tortured that we are getting the word out to everyone. They are feeling the pressure. KEEP IT UP! Elsewhere if you have to. We are scaring them, because our ideas are becoming mainstream. 2 years ago you'd be insta-banned anywhere for saying something that was derogatory to wards the kikenvermin. Now, you say something and 10 people join in with you!
Not only that, but I have read some of the "inside knowledge" on what they're thinking. They are "disturbed" that more college women are joining the movement! (Hi, MGBrashear!)
Get the word out and grind it in their ugly Jewey faces! They know that we're right. Did you see that "National Geographic" thread I posted? That was like a fucking troll magnet! All the trolls couldn't stand to see their beloved niggers get some well deserved criticism. So they chimped-out! Ha, ha. Someone even "grave-dug" some pornographic thread from years ago as a twisted form of retaliation.
Hey T. Garrett. Here's the deal. I can smell a troll from a mile away. You said that the last flame war "got out of hand". Well, these trolls need to have it rubbed in their ugly Talmudic faces. Let me at them. I'm ready!
J Rink- Troll. Woman-beating advocate. Already unmasked in another thread.
Holly- Sure, 16 year old girls are really concerned with the distinction between WN'ist viewpoints in relation to Islam. At best, you wish you were 16 again, but are probably about 56, just judging by the sophistication of your posts. (OK, at least your posts are "sophisticated") But other than that, wotta joke you are!
AmySikowski- Shitty troll, way too blatant with the trollishness, with a nasty, vile mud-shark in your avatar. Puh-leez! How about I parade a rotating Swastika http://www.silvamultimedia.com/Nazi/UFOs/SwastikaRotating.gifwhen I go to a Victims of Holocaust forum, and claim to them "I'm with you guys!" LOL! Should be immediately banished to OP. A shitty troll, 'cause you aren't even annoying. Just a waste of bandwidth. Go back to troll school.
Bill White- Been banned at least twice! Like a jew that has been gassed at least 5 times, he keeps coming back to life like a cockroach after you've stomped on it!
But my message is simple for everyone. There are some trolls on the forum, and they need to be put through an Auto De Fe VNNStyle.
The auto de fe involved a Catholic Mass; prayer; a public procession of those found guilty; and a reading of their sentences (Peters 1988: 93-94)
Don't let them win! At the least, keep hitting them with your words somewhere else.
That old playground quote is a lie. "Sticks and stones...." BULLSHIT! Words hurt them a lot. Why would they send trolls out to counter us if we didn't matter? Keep it up! At this rate, someday jews will be ashamed to be even seen in public. Let alone, hand down laws for all of us to follow.
YOU'VE GOT THIS GREAT WHITE INVENTION IN YOUR HANDS, THE INTERNET, USE IT FOR GOOD AND UNMASK THE KIKE IN EVERY CORNER OF IT!!!
Jett Rink
April 3rd, 2008, 09:25 PM
embittered nonentity
That is thee perfect descriptive phrase for Melcur & Co.
Jett Rink
April 3rd, 2008, 09:35 PM
J Rink- Troll. Woman-beating advocate. Already unmasked in another thread.
Holly- Sure, 16 year old girls are really concerned with the distinction between WN'ist viewpoints in relation to Islam. At best, you wish you were 16 again, but are probably about 56, just judging by the sophistication of your posts. (OK, at least your posts are "sophisticated") But other than that, wotta joke you are!
Woman-beating advocate???
http://www.cranberrycoastcoc.com/troller.jpg
mgbrashear3@aol.com
April 3rd, 2008, 09:37 PM
LOL...'bon fucking voyage' to the attention whores exiting VNNF on this thread. So much fail...
With losers like this dumbass fitzgerald, some of the good dedicated members will leave, but they will come back. :)
As for me....I am just getting started. ;) If I can tolerate ole fag hardy lloyd...I can put up with Jwett Jew Dink, and dumbass fitz. Takes a lot more than these pathetic white peices of trash to make me leave. :[]
Flame Baiter
April 3rd, 2008, 09:51 PM
Woman-beating advocate???
You didn't hear me well enough?
In the nutzpah thread about you.
You know what I'm talking about.
Jett Rink
April 3rd, 2008, 10:19 PM
You know what I'm talking about.
Uh, 'fraid not.
John Patrick
April 4th, 2008, 12:30 AM
I really wish that those who "quietly retire from VNN" would do so quietly. No need for grandstanding posts. Just go. Just log off and don't log on again. Very simple.
John Patrick
April 4th, 2008, 12:34 AM
I think the easiest way would be to send the victim a private message with a personalized image which identifies the user who viewed it. (ie: <img src="http://my.webserver.com/cknott.gif">)
Actually it just dawned on me how easy it is to associate an ip with a poster here.
Ever notice when you post something, it takes you back to the thread?? Since posts here have a time on them.... it would be real simple to simply associate the time of the post to the time the 1x1 hidden image was accessed.
D. Fitzgerald
April 4th, 2008, 04:03 AM
With losers like this dumbass fitzgerald, some of the good dedicated members will leave, but they will come back. :)
As for me....I am just getting started. ;) If I can tolerate ole fag hardy lloyd...I can put up with Jwett Jew Dink, and dumbass fitz. Takes a lot more than these pathetic white peices of trash to make me leave. :[]
just WHO is this unhinged twat mgbrashear?
I seem to remember her 'reefing-off 'about that Gotti lookalike kid...can't fucking spell to save herself by the look of it.
Another VNNF window-licker...next!!
vBulletin® v3.6.8, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.