[Bill: Anyone who can explain the details of what happened here, please email me at answp@nazi.org. I am so outside of the Ku Klux Klan and the sickness of anti-Nazi CI fanaticism that I don't know what to make of this:]

http://www.jacksonsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080405/NEWS01/80405015/1002

Protesters boo Klansmen in Selmer

The Jackson Sun
• April 5, 2008

SELMER — Klansmen from Mississippi and Georgia rallied outside the McNairy County Courthouse today while dozens of white and black protesters screamed and booed at them.

Speakers, including leaders of the Mississippi White Knights and Georgia Knight Riders, identified local sex offenders and spoke against Hispanic immigration. They also accused the crowd of being brainwashed by a Jewish-operated conspiracy that controls the media and banking and covers up crimes committed against whites by other races.

Protesters, many of them young and from Selmer, held up signs calling the Klansmen cowards and erupted when the Klansmen screamed, "White power!" Many screamed for the Klansmen to leave town; several others often broke out into chants of "Obama! Obama! Obama!"

Richard Green, the Mississippi White Knights' imperial wizard, called white protesters "race traitors" and thanked them for "making fools of themselves."

Police in riot gear — many carrying clubs, some carrying shotguns — kept watch on the event. One woman was briefly handcuffed after the event for cursing at police.

Selmer Mayor David Robinson and McNairy County Mayor Jai Templeton released a statement today denouncing the Klan's message and thanking police for keeping the rally safe.

A National Geographic documentary crew followed the Klansmen, who had rallied earlier in the day in Pontotoc, Miss. A Neo Nazi Klan group wanted to join the rally, but were told to leave by Georgia Klansmen.

"We don't believe in Nazism," said Jeff Jones, imperial wizard of the Georgia Knight Riders. "We believe in the pure Ku Klux Klan, as it was in 1922."

Read more in Sunday's edition of The Jackson Sun.

It sounds like Federals, if they were true WN's there would not be a problem.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2583665152/tt0


http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTcwOTkyMzA4Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNTU2Mjc4._V1._SY400_SX600_.jpg

Sophie Marceau, hot? is she not ? she could "stop" the fighting.

"We don't believe in Nazism," said Jeff Jones, imperial wizard of the Georgia Knight Riders. "We believe in the pure Ku Klux Klan, as it was in 1922."

It sounds like Federals, if they were true WN's there would not be a problem.

If not, they're serving the same purpose. Info on Jeff Jones would be appreciated.

If not, they're serving the same purpose. Info on Jeff Jones would be appreciated.

Some details:

The rally and the groups are organized solely on Stormfront. Identifies of all participants can probably be gleaned from the threads they are using (see list below)

From Stormfront:

"It's a pro-White org. I know that Don Black, Jamie Kelso and some others here attend the meetings. If you do a search here you will see threads about meetings."

The organizers were Jeff Jones ("gaknightrider" on Stormfront) and Robert Green. "Fred Bear" on Stormfront also seems to be a strong advocate of the group.

Jones established his group, the "Georgia Knight Riders", in 2006. Green has been leading his group since 1999. Seven "organizations" participated, drawing in about twenty five members between them. This looked like about eight core male members, their wives / girlfriends, and children, plus some hanger ons.

On his website, Jones writes:

"We are against any Nazi party, and will NOT be affiliated with them"

They are a part of a coalition dedicated to running all "neo-Nazis" out of the movement:

http://www.sakkkk.com/

"The Southern Alliance of Klans is an alliance of pure and traditional Klan groups that are strongly opposed to Nazis, White Nationalists, and Skinhead movements. We do not allow any of these Neo Nazi groups to attend our public demonstrations or rallies. We disagree that they stand with us and our cause. They are aliens amongst us, just as other whites who have not attained citizenship in the Invisible Empire. Therefore, they are unworthy of standing with us at any time. We also believe they are a detriment to the Ku Klux Klan, and that they only support the media in publishing negativity about us. "

Apparently, there is a new version of Christian Identity circulating among the Klans that claims that Germans are not Aryan because they are the descedents of the Assyrians, whom the CI claim migrated into Europe from the Levant during the capitivity of the tribes of Israel. The theory is, of course, bizarre, ahistorical, and believable only by the completly credulous, but, then again, we are dealing with Stormfronters as well ...

I wonder if they aren't under Barrett's crazy influence.

Stormfront threads:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/and-they-expect-ppl-join-430895.html

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/georgia-ku-klux-klan-307019.html

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/pics-klan-jam-2006-302741.html

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/mississippi-white-knights-4th-july-396800.html

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/southern-alliance-klans-347411.html

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/ku-klux-klan-unity-358199p2.html

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/klan-rally-tupelo-mississippi-oct-400061p3.html

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=4715975

Some details:

The rally and the groups are organized solely on Stormfront. Identifies of all participants can probably be gleaned from the threads they are using (see list below)

From Stormfront:

"It's a pro-White org. I know that Don Black, Jamie Kelso and some others here attend the meetings. If you do a search here you will see threads about meetings."

The organizers were Jeff Jones ("gaknightrider" on Stormfront) and Robert Green. "Fred Bear" on Stormfront also seems to be a strong advocate of the group.

Jones established his group, the "Georgia Knight Riders", in 2006. Green has been leading his group since 1999. Seven "organizations" participated, drawing in about twenty five members between them. This looked like about eight core male members, their wives / girlfriends, and children, plus some hanger ons.

On his website, Jones writes:

"We are against any Nazi party, and will NOT be affiliated with them"

They are a part of a coalition dedicated to running all "neo-Nazis" out of the movement:

http://www.sakkkk.com/

"The Southern Alliance of Klans is an alliance of pure and traditional Klan groups that are strongly opposed to Nazis, White Nationalists, and Skinhead movements. We do not allow any of these Neo Nazi groups to attend our public demonstrations or rallies. We disagree that they stand with us and our cause. They are aliens amongst us, just as other whites who have not attained citizenship in the Invisible Empire. Therefore, they are unworthy of standing with us at any time. We also believe they are a detriment to the Ku Klux Klan, and that they only support the media in publishing negativity about us. "

Apparently, there is a new version of Christian Identity circulating among the Klans that claims that Germans are not Aryan because they are the descedents of the Assyrians, whom the CI claim migrated into Europe from the Levant during the capitivity of the tribes of Israel. The theory is, of course, bizarre, ahistorical, and believable only by the completly credulous, but, then again, we are dealing with Stormfronters as well ...

I wonder if they aren't under Barrett's crazy influence

they're just fckn SCUM!...let 'em come on Free Talk Live/Radio Whitelandia & debate Linder if they rckn they got a "case"....Germans not white? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHa :rofl .....WTF don't they apply for ADL membership?.....fckn jew-infiltrated SCUM....DEATH to them! :mad:

(jimbo!)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q197/__jimbo__/regalia_mothercross_gold.jpg

Yeah, they'll get far with that type of outlook. :rolleyes:

Yeah that's your new angle and strategy huh Billy Bob da Slob try and divide Klansmen and Christian Identity and N.S. whites and try to make them all hate each other and cause more infighting.

Same old tactics divide and conquer and try to provoke more and more infighting all the time. Your like a damn broken record I swear.

This is an unfortunate example of either foolish infighting and/or paid agent provocateurs. People are putting too much emphasis on organizations and subcultures instead of what is really important. Organization are nothing more than vehicles that should be used to get somewhere, not ends in themselves. The statements from the "Georgia Night Riders" are beyond the pale, in my opinion.

Some examples of what is not needed from the "Georgia Night Riders":opposed to Nazis, White Nationalists, and Skinhead movements. We do not allow any of these Neo Nazi groups to attend our public demonstrations http://www.georgiaknightriderskkkk.com/page2.html
Then more uphelpful comments from Bill White: Christian Identity, itself a bizarre subset of the white nationalist movement. http://12.107.40.66/lsn/news.asp?articleID=10665

This picture of Assyrians trying to relive their glorious past reminds me of SOME the various Klan and NS groups. Is'nt this what some of these groups really all about?

Much of the Klan animosity towards Germans come from the fact German immigrants in the South in 1861 supported the north, talk about fighting ghosts of the past.

http://knp.prs.heacademy.ac.uk/images/essentials/discovery/assyrians_today.jpg

Much of the Southron Aristocracy's animosity towards German immigrants stem from the fact that German farmers did their own fucking labor, without niggers, and produced more yield at a cheaper price than the poltroonish planter class ever could! Lazy shits!

Apparently, there is a new version of Christian Identity circulating among the Klans that claims that Germans are not Aryan because they are the descedents of the Assyrians, whom the CI claim migrated into Europe from the Levant during the capitivity of the tribes of Israel.

Now what?? These infiltrators and puppets always come along to capitalize on something. I suppose this one is taking advantage of ill will possibly created by hyper-nordicists who run around claiming anyone not blonde and blue eyed is not white. So why not fabricate some elaborate "explanation" as to why Germans are not white? That ought to create division and siphon off as many into error as they can manage. Certainly the true Church has been attacked in these ways from the very beginning.

On the secular side the jew just applies the same tactics and starts divisions within political groups in the same way. Once they get the ball rolling they have their collaborators inside and outside who keep feeding the flames in any little way they can.

I notice at that Klan site they mention that they are a southern coalition of independent Klan groups formed so that each group can maintain its own separate operations without being absorbed into one overall regional group. Now, for example, one would think both the Klan and the Nazis might be able to come to a similar type of arrangement. They might join forces with regard to creating a larger presence against the common enemy without any of the groups losing their own individual autonomy and philosophy. But I suppose that does not suit territorial interests or the interests of the puppets and infiltrators within their ranks.

The idea that the Germans are Assyrians is not an Identity doctrine that's a total lie, it's an old teaching of Herbert W. Armstrong's World Church of God which was a version of British Israelism which is very different from what Christian Identity adherents beleive.

A very large precentage of Klan groups and so called pretend National Socialist groups are really governement agents anyway. I suspect a sincere White activist wouldn't go around dressed in sheets or old Nazi uniforms from a bygone era.

Much of the Southron Aristocracy's animosity towards German immigrants stem from the fact that German farmers did their own fucking labor, without niggers, and produced more yield at a cheaper price than the poltroonish planter class ever could! Lazy shits!

Hear, hear!

The Southern aristocratic white man's hatred of white workers is something to see -- and I've seen it. The Southern white working class, in my opinion, has never fully understood their betrayal by the planter class.

I have one correction to make, though: it was Selmer, Tennessee and not Selmer, Georgia, apparently, where the rally took place.

I can remember this Klan anti-Nazi stuff as far back as 2005. I listened to a Klan speaker at a rally once tell me that if Hitler "had been a Christian" (which, at least nominally, he was) he would have won World War II.

Personally, I don't know what to do about Christian Identity. It strikes me as headed to the same dustbin as militia-ism and Constitutionalism. There are certainly some good CI people out there, but it also seems to be a pool where ridiculous anti-white and anti-national-socialist pseudo-religious ideologies breed -- like some sort of bacteria laden swamp.

People who join the K.K.K. today are not rich plantion owners hahaah what a joke. just like this thread itself.

it's an old teaching of Herbert W. Armstrong's World Church of God which was a version of British Israelism which is very different from what Christian Identity adherents beleive.

First, British Israelism and Christian Identity are very closely related doctrines. I understand some CI people like to scream and shout this is untrue, but it is true, and while there are some differences, they are minor and show a definite relationship.

Second, this idea of Germans are Assyrians has been regaining currency among certain sects of CI. I received a Christian Identity publication from a former Aryan Nations board member just this month that referenced that argument, and I have had a number of calls and emails from Christian Identity groups that have been so angry at things we have published -- explaining, for instance, that the swastika is a pagan symbol, and not representative of the four gospels of the Bible, or that Yahweh started as a pagan Jewish serpent -- that they have been actively banning NS philosophy from their organizations.

Now, some may say "why publish that the swastika is a pagan symbol? Aren't you trying to spur division?" but, frankly, at some point in time someone has to say the simple truth. I can't help everyone else's irrational fantasies; I can only describe the world as I know it.

I don't know what to do about Christian Identity. If you have nothing nice to say, do not say anything. Our country is being flooded by aliens, I think that should be a priority.

Germans are Assyrians has been regaining currency among certain sects of CI.

swastika is a pagan symbol,

Now, some may say "why publish that the swastika is a pagan symbol? 1. Jesus spoke Assyrian (Aramaic), not Hebrew.

2. The Swastika was the earliest Christian symbol, selected because it means "rebirth." Swastika are on the tombs of early Christians in the catacombs. http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=001...3E2.0.CO%3B2-I

Aramean, the language Jesus spoke, is still spoken in some cities and Syria http://www.holylandalternatives.net/syria.html Jesus being a Syrian is of some importance, because the Syrians are the number one enemy of the Jews. This is taught in schools in Syria, you people need to listen to President Assad.

Mary Baker Eddy in 1908Jesus was a Syrian by birth and is supposed to have conversed in the Syrian http://books.google.com/books?id=2cZLAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=%22jesus+was+a+syrian%22&source=web&ots=HDX0FjiN1H&sig=p1S22gmtcEkF13E2RPJFRJvDVTg&hl=en#PPA164,M1 Jesus being a Syrian is not a new idea that is being promoted by the modern Syrian state.

[QUOTE=seeer;754919]1. Jesus spoke Assyrian (Aramaic), not Hebrew.

2. The Swastika was the earliest Christian symbol, selected because it means "rebirth." Swastika are on the tombs of early Christians in the catacombs. http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=001...3E2.0.CO%3B2-I

Bullshit. The swastika is far older than Christianity. The first appearance of the swastika pre-dates Christianity by thousands of years.

Jesus being a Syrian is not a new idea

I think both Chamberlain and Rosenberg made the case that Jesus was not a Jew. The idea is certainly not new and not alien to Nationalsocialism either.

The swastika is far older than Christianity. The first appearance of the swastika pre-dates Christianity by thousands of years.I agree. But it is still the symbol they chose. The swastika had both secular and religious meaning before Christianity, symbols were very important because few people could read.

That Rally was in Tennessee. Selmer is the county seat of McNairy county. Buford Pusser (not the nigger in the remake) was Sheriff there in the 1960s.

Some of the Klan factions have some nutty CI people and they're totally opposed to "Nazis". Bet they'd change their minds if the cops weren't around and a bunch of ARA scum were whipping their asses.

I'm curious as to who was the pro-NS Klan group who was not allowed to participate? IKA?

14/88

The idea that the Germans are Assyrians is not an Identity doctrine that's a total lie, it's an old teaching of Herbert W. Armstrong's World Church of God which was a version of British Israelism which is very different from what Christian Identity adherents beleive.

A very large precentage of Klan groups and so called pretend National Socialist groups are really governement agents anyway. I suspect a sincere White activist wouldn't go around dressed in sheets or old Nazi uniforms from a bygone era.

Germany in Prophecy / Part 1
by Herman L. Hoeh
(The Plain Truth; Dec./1962)
http://www.asmallvoice.org/id30.html

Germany in Prophecy / Part 1
by Herman L. Hoeh
(The Plain Truth; Dec./1962)
http://www.asmallvoice.org/id30.html

Yeah, the Plain Truth was Armsrtong's magazine that's a article right from his British-Israel church not Christian Identity.

2. The Swastika was the earliest Christian symbol, selected because it means "rebirth." Swastika are on the tombs of early Christians in the catacombs. http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=001...3E2.0.CO%3B2-I



Actually, the swastika is so ancient that it appears in Slavic culture as well as German culture. Apparently it has existed before either of these two did.

I'm curious as to who was the pro-NS Klan group who was not allowed to participate? IKA?

14/88 Just for the record it was Bill Riccio, yep the same Bill Riccio that testified in the Fort Smith sedition trials. Known federal informants are not allowed to stand with us...As far as the other Klan group being made to leave thats bullshit, they were allowed to have a speaker...Keep reading the jew media and im sure you will learn a lot..Also i dont know where the hell this guy is getting that we think the germans were assyrians thats total bullshit, and a new one on me.

Well said fred bear, i got a first hand account from pastor eli because i was unable to attend, this time. Good job. By the way if anyone would bother to read the joo media account, it mentions nothing about the Klan "attacking" the national socialists so thats just another embelishment by billy bob not so white. Probably just pissed he wasnt invited, then again he would of fit right in with the fed informant riccio.

Well said fred bear, i got a first hand account from pastor eli because i was unable to attend, this time. Good job. By the way if anyone would bother to read the joo media account, it mentions nothing about the Klan "attacking" the national socialists so thats just another embelishment by billy bob not so white. Probably just pissed he wasnt invited, then again he would of fit right in with the fed informant riccio.

Look Grand Poobah of the Eternal Realm of Bullshit, take your ghost suit somewhere else -- like back to Stormfront, where "anti-Nazi" "anti-racist" racialism has some currency.

Or, better yet:

If you kicked Bill Riccio out for being a federal informer, why did you tell the press you kicked him our for being a "neo-Nazi"? In fact, why did you publish anti-white bullshit on your messageboards?

Look Grand Poobah of the Eternal Realm of Bullshit, take your ghost suit somewhere else -- like back to Stormfront, where "anti-Nazi" "anti-racist" racialism has some currency.

Or, better yet:

If you kicked Bill Riccio out for being a federal informer, why did you tell the press you kicked him our for being a "neo-Nazi"? In fact, why did you publish anti-white bullshit on your messageboards?

I hate to admit it but the one time I meet Riccio, I found him to be a very likeable person, even though I knew the full story on him. Jeff, Wild Bill and I were at White Pride Fest (I heard someone calling this event that). Bill Riccio walks up and Jeff and I immediately knew recognized him. We were both having to admit on the ride back that he was super cool to us and gave a great speech. That conversation ended with "how the hell is he still around?"

Hear, hear!

The Southern aristocratic white man's hatred of white workers is something to see -- and I've seen it. The Southern white working class, in my opinion, has never fully understood their betrayal by the planter class.

I have one correction to make, though: it was Selmer, Tennessee and not Selmer, Georgia, apparently, where the rally took place.

I can remember this Klan anti-Nazi stuff as far back as 2005. I listened to a Klan speaker at a rally once tell me that if Hitler "had been a Christian" (which, at least nominally, he was) he would have won World War II.

Personally, I don't know what to do about Christian Identity. It strikes me as headed to the same dustbin as militia-ism and Constitutionalism. There are certainly some good CI people out there, but it also seems to be a pool where ridiculous anti-white and anti-national-socialist pseudo-religious ideologies breed -- like some sort of bacteria laden swamp.

You must be talking about the time at the Redneck Shop where you got so upset. I got there late and you were still fuming over what all was said. It all started before that day though. I was there for the Klan leadership conference a few months earlier with Pluss, Wild Bill, Taylor and a handful of others. Wallace was there too if I remember.

There was some Klan guy in his suit, complete with hood, making a speech about National Socialism. He'd say a sentence in a high voice, wait 30 seconds, speak again. At first I couldn't tell what he was getting at until he announced that his Klan ancestors had never heard of a jew back in 1940. Next was an old man with a long beard who began fussing about Easter baskets, "We're a Christian nation, not a Pagan nation!" (Note: we're a Pagan people and you aren't a fucking jew). I walked out on that note.

The next 5 speeches I gave there were just about as Heathen as I could possibly make them. Anyhow, the last event I attended was the Christmas Party. I walk in there and there might have been 10 or so NS guys about about 5 Klansmen +about 8 of their family members (including assorted old people who could have just been by themselves). This guy stands up and starts preaching against NS, thats when I realized who it was. He started claiming some sort of victory over the NS guys, sighting how Wallace had joined the Klan to get away from the satanism in the NSM. I then realized that this bumpkin assummed because he didn't see any uniforms, that the NS types had gone away. He then started talking about how the brownshirts used to fill the first 2 or 3 rows in the meeting hall.

So there I sit in my hunting coat, blue jeans and cowboy boots, listening to this bullshit. I had no intention of speaking that day but after hearing that drawly gloating, there was no way I was about to just sit there. I delievered the speach of my life to about 25 people, most of them in there 60's. As soon as he was off the stage, I drew my weapon and went to town. I got those old folks fired up (hook set) then called for National Socialist revolution! It was great to say, "hey, you smug asshole, we're here, we still outnumber you and now I've got your people cheering my speech when they mildly clapped for yours."

From 2005 until now, I've heard one thing after another from the Klan about how much they hate the NS. Funny thing--I used to respect the Klan so much. I did for a lot of reasons. Now, Its not that I don't respect them for being anti-NS, thats their right to say whatever. I don't respect them because I see they are just a slightly (SLIGHTLY) more radical version of the League of the South or Sons of Confederate Vetrans. And boy oh boy, those cowardly tactics of those two mentioned "heritage" groups aren't lost on the modern Klan either. Now its all Sunday School (a Herrington saying) and "we're not nearly as bad as you might think..."

My advice: look at the absolutely NOTHING the LOTS (Lovers of Total Surrender) and Son of Confederate Vetrans have accomplished using watered down tactics. They're pretty much anti-racist now due to this constant application of water to their message.

A lot of middle aged men are angry at the NS for growing and more or less taking over the youth of the racialist scene. I think your problem isn't with the NS though. Maybe its your tactics. Maybe...just maybe, its your Desert God? Maybe he doesn't want you to win.

Editional note: In case anyone calls me asking me why I've started getting a little hostile to the Klan--its bullshit like what I just read as well as the last few years of them edging myself and others on. We've sat though COUNTLESS sunday school speeches, listen you to you all go on and on about Desert God's grand plans for white people. We've supported you while other Christians have stood outside and protested you. Now due to either aging leadership or no leadership at all, you are shrinking. Don't look at us. We stood by you after insult after insult. Now its over. I'm not attending another Klan event---ever. I encourage all NS to do the same. And besides that, all the trouble thats happened in Laurens, no matter who blames who for what---has been Klan related. Best of luck, fellas but you've no longer got my support. Looking back, I'm shocked myself and others endured your insults and badmouthing for as long as we did.

Look Grand Poobah of the Eternal Realm of Bullshit, take your ghost suit somewhere else -- like back to Stormfront, where "anti-Nazi" "anti-racist" racialism has some currency.

Or, better yet:

If you kicked Bill Riccio out for being a federal informer, why did you tell the press you kicked him our for being a "neo-Nazi"? In fact, why did you publish anti-white bullshit on your messageboards?

I'm curious as to why we never have a convention/ meeting/cookout in the Dallas Area? not too be outdone; members of stormdrain did back in October @ Whiterock lake, this is just info FYI