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Donnachaidh
April 12th, 2008, 11:07 AM
Mental health experts enlisted to help with children of sect

SAN ANGELO, Texas (AP) -- Texas officials have brought in mental health professionals and behavioral experts in an effort to ensure a sense of normalcy for the more than 400 children removed from a polygamous sect's enclave, an agency spokeswoman said.

But for all their lives, the boys and girls of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have been told the outside world was hostile and immoral. Venturing beyond the brilliant white limestone walls of their compound would consign them to eternal damnation, their church leaders preached.

Now, if the state gets its way, hundreds of children could be put in foster homes, in what could be a wrenching cultural adjustment that may require intensive counseling.

"What they are up against is having to deprogram an entire community," said Margaret Cooke, who left the sect with seven of her eight children near the end of 1994. The children "are so naive and they have been sheltered to the point that they don't even trust their own judgment."

Marleigh Meisner, a spokeswoman for the state Children's Protective Services, said the agency is working with mental health and other experts to meet specific needs of the children. That information will be passed to foster families if a judge decides the children should be transferred to foster homes, she said. Watch the psychological challenges the children may face »

"We want to keep their world as normal as possible," Meisner said. "We also want to be certain that these children have gained a trust with us. We want these children to know that even if they may not have been safe in the past, they will be safe as long as they are with us."

Meanwhile, in court papers unsealed Friday, authorities said they found a "cyanide poisoning document" in their search of the compound in the town of Eldorado. But the 80-page list of items seized gave no further explanation.

Texas Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange said the document consisted of pages torn out of a first-aid book on how to treat cyanide poisoning. But she said she didn't know why the sect would have such information on hand.

Child welfare officials seized more than 400 children, most of them girls, in the raid on the FLDS compound known as the Yearn for Zion ranch, saying the youngsters were in danger of physical, emotional and sexual abuse.

The renegade Mormon splinter group requires girls at puberty to enter into polygamous marriages with much older men and produce children, authorities say. The sect also teaches children to fear the outside world, including the very authorities who removed them until a court hearing Thursday that will help determine their future.

"You're taught to fear everyone and everything," said Cooke, herself a 16-year-old bride.

The children and the 139 women who followed them voluntarily out of the compound are being so secretive that child welfare officials are having trouble sorting out who the youngsters' parents are.

Most of the children are the offspring of the faith's inner circle -- including its now-imprisoned prophet, Warren Jeffs -- who were born since construction began on the compound in 2003, or were hand-selected by Jeffs to come to the enclave, which the sect regards as part of Zion, the heavenly city of God. Learn about Jeffs' teachings »

In 2003 and 2004, Jeffs, the spiritual leader of an estimated 6,000 followers in two adjoining towns along the Utah-Arizona line, plucked children under the age of 6 to bring to Texas, some without their parents, former sect member Isaac Wyler said.

"Over age 6 they were too contaminated for the world to be of use to God," said Wyler, who still lives in Colorado City, Arizona, and has 38 siblings. "He picked the ones that would be the most obedient, the ones that would be qualified to go to Zion."

Authorities raided the Eldorado ranch April 3 after a girl from the inside made a whispered telephone call for help to a family violence shelter. The 16-year-old, who indicated she was a few weeks pregnant, said her 50-year-old husband beat and raped her. The girl has not yet been identified among the 416 children and may not even be among them.

In the call, the girl said that sect members warned her that if she ever left, outsiders would hurt her and force her to cut her hair, wear makeup and have sex with many men.

Most of the sect's children have never attended public schools or worn modern clothing. The girls wear long, pioneer-style dresses and keep their long hair pinned up in braids. See where the FLDS has communities »

In their search of the compound, police uncovered dozens of journals and other documents that contain birth, marriage and other genealogical records. That may help social workers match children with their parents.

The hearing next Thursday will determine whether the state gets full custody of the children or whether they can return to the compound in Eldorado.

The women and children are being held at Fort Concho and nearby at the Wells Fargo Pavilion. Men from the YFZ ranch and any other relatives are not being allowed to visit.

"I think under the circumstances the folks are as happy in their environment as they can possibly be," said Kevin Dinnin, the shelter manager for the Baptist Child and Management Services, an agency hired by the state to handle the response.

Beyond the basic needs of food, fresh water, showers and bedding, Dinnin said his agency has worked to provide toys for the children and address the unique clothing and laundry needs of the FLDS, who wear long, religious underwear year-round which are not meant to be seen by outsiders.

The educational needs of the children were being assessed as were medical needs, including the treatment of about a dozen kids with chickenpox and prescription medications, he said. Mental health services are also being provided.


"We have encouraged sibling groups and mothers to stay together," Dinnin said of the living arrangements.

More than 500 people are working with the shelter "guests," and the agency is spending between $25,000 and $35,000 daily, Dinnin said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/12/polygamist.retreat.ap/index.html

Schnee Weiss
April 12th, 2008, 12:57 PM
Most of the sect's children have never attended public schools or worn modern clothing. The girls wear long, pioneer-style dresses and keep their long hair pinned up in braids. See where the FLDS has communities »


Oh My God! Will the horrors never cease! :rolleyes:

What is the big deal with this? Is what they wear and how they keep their hair somehow "damaging" to them? I guess because their hair isn't spiked and shaved and purple, and they aren't wearing thongs and halter tops, that is somehow "psychologically" damaging....

Cate
April 12th, 2008, 01:17 PM
Well, in my view, they were taught accurately. The world outside the compound is immoral, except we call it diversity, multiculturalism, pluralism and political correctness. There was a caller into a Texas radio show that was working with these children through the baptist church. She stated these children were terrified of what was happening and even in their current state, they were the best behaved children she had ever seen. Can't have that into today's society. If the children don't hate the parents and want every materialistic thing offered on TV, they must be brainwashed and let the jews shrinks create double-minded children and manipulate their way of thinking.

Another point that hasn't surfaced in mainstream media is the legal marriage age in Texas. Did you know until fairly recently (within the past two years), girls were allowed to be married at age 13 and boys at age 14? Common law marriages were considered lawful marriages at least a few years ago and may still be acceptable - I haven't researched that aspect of the law yet. You didn't need a marriage license - only to declare you were married. So, when they make a big deal out of a 16 year old have children, she was legally married and legally able to have these children in the State of Texas.

While polygamy is illegal and, in my humble opinion, immoral, it was their way of life. I'm not trying to defend their religion because I know it is a false religion, but these people, for right or for wrong, have made that choice and have to live with it. They are free to walk away at any time, regardless of what the media states.

Yesterday it was Waco and Ruby Ridge, today it is Eldorado, tomorrow it could be another peace loving religious community such as the Amish. Or you.

If government agencies are so concerned with the wellbeing of children, why aren't they making full-scale removal of children in Detroit, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles or any other crime infested, drug riddled community trying to save children there?

It's because they aren't White and White children must be destroyed at all costs.

Sándor Petőfi
April 12th, 2008, 01:19 PM
I hope to dear god this creates another McVeigh. This is even worse than Waco. I've never seen or imagined anything like it. 400 children stolen from their families for the sake of one phonecall about one instance of abuse, made by and about a person who has not even been proved to exist.


In the call, the girl said that sect members warned her that if she ever left, outsiders would hurt her and force her to cut her hair, wear makeup and have sex with many men.

Yes? And? That isn't about to happen?

Lex Talionis
April 12th, 2008, 02:07 PM
I heard one of the national news anchor nitwits mention that, "they had no access to television", a comment which I am sure was aimed at horrifying the society of two-legged vegetables the msm has cultivated. I'm sure most of them would rather have shards of glass driven under their fingernails than miss one insipid moment of 'American idol'. And of course, judging by my Fox news worshiping co-workers, the masses take everything they are fed as the unaltered truth. It never even dawns on them to critically think and research the facts themselves. How pathetically easy it is when you have power.

The_skunk
April 12th, 2008, 08:59 PM
Beyond the basic needs of food, fresh water, showers and bedding, Dinnin said his agency has worked to provide toys for the children and address the unique clothing and laundry needs of the FLDS, who wear long, religious underwear year-round which are not meant to be seen by outsiders.


This whole thing stinks of jews.

Frank Toliver
April 12th, 2008, 09:03 PM
I heard one of the national news anchor nitwits mention that, "they had no access to television", a comment which I am sure was aimed at horrifying the society of two-legged vegetables the msm has cultivated. I'm sure most of them would rather have shards of glass driven under their fingernails than miss one insipid moment of 'American idol'. And of course, judging by my Fox news worshiping co-workers, the masses take everything they are fed as the unaltered truth. It never even dawns on them to critically think and research the facts themselves. How pathetically easy it is when you have power.

This is child abuse, how will a child grow up to be a proper Amerikwan if they are not taught that white men are stupid goofy faggots and that black men are the proper mates for white women?

Aistulf
April 12th, 2008, 09:43 PM
This whole thing stinks of jews.
As jewsually, really...

natsocnet
April 12th, 2008, 09:46 PM
ELDORADO, Texas - It was no secret that a polygamist sect that built a compound in the West Texas desert believed in marrying off underage girls to older men. And the sheriff had an informant for four years who was feeding him information about life inside the sect.

But authorities say their hands were tied until last week, when they finally obtained the legal grounds to move against the group.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24014376/#storyContinued

zzdiesel
April 12th, 2008, 10:22 PM
I hope to dear god this creates another McVeigh. This is even worse than Waco. I've never seen or imagined anything like it. 400 children stolen from their families for the sake of one phonecall about one instance of abuse, made by and about a person who has not even been proved to exist.



Yes? And? That isn't about to happen?

There were going to have sex with their white mates while they were at their compound. Now they'll be indoctrinated in MTV & etc and these pure white girls will be taught to Fuck Niggers and other Shit skin mongrels.

Jett Rink
April 12th, 2008, 10:28 PM
There were going to have sex with their white mates while they were at their compound. Now they'll be indoctrinated in MTV & etc and these pure white girls will be taught to Fuck Niggers and other Shit skin mongrels.
Those naive fish out of water white girls are going to be raped 10 ways to sunday at the non-White group homes they will be assigned to.

Oprichniki
April 12th, 2008, 10:37 PM
Someone teach these kids about sodomy, stat!

zzdiesel
April 12th, 2008, 10:44 PM
Those naive fish out of water white girls are going to be raped 10 ways to sunday at the non-White group homes they will be assigned to.

Oh my God, you are so right. Those Fucking Nigger Savages will be in hog heaven with all that fresh tight poontang running around.

Donnachaidh
April 12th, 2008, 10:52 PM
I imagine when the SHTF there will be a lot of pissed off people looking for certain former 'authority' figures. I hope they get what they deserve for serving the gubermint. Pensioned with extreme prejudice.

Dale VanderMeer
April 12th, 2008, 11:06 PM
Just look at what the 'Kwa's Keystone cops are doing, they are chasing their own tails:
ST. GEORGE, Utah -- In a new development in the raid on the FLDS compound in Eldorado, Texas, Texas Rangers met with -- but did not arrest -- a man accused of sexually abusing a teenage girl.

The meeting with Dale Evans Barlow, 50, took place just across the Arizona border in St. George, Utah.

Rangers chose not to place Barlow under arrest, which highlights what 3TV and azfamily.com have been noting all week -- that authorities might be investigating the wrong man.

Barlow, who is from Colorado City, Ariz., has denied the allegations of abuse, and has said he does not know the 16-year-old girl whose March 29 call to a domestic violence hotline sparked the raid on the Eldorado compound built by polygamist leader Warren Jeffs.

Texas officials have yet to locate that girl. ...:rolleyes::rolleyes:
http://www.azfamily.com/news/homepagetopstory/stories/phoenix_local_news_polygamy_041208_barlow-meeting.5a1e0135.html
I imagine when the SHTF there will be a lot of pissed off people looking for certain former 'authority' figures. I hope they get what they deserve for serving the gubermint. Pensioned with extreme prejudice.

zzdiesel
April 12th, 2008, 11:49 PM
I'll bet whoever made the call was not the 16 yr old in question. It was probably some older jealous old gal who acted like she was 16

zzdiesel
April 12th, 2008, 11:55 PM
I imagine when the SHTF there will be a lot of pissed off people looking for certain former 'authority' figures. I hope they get what they deserve for serving the gubermint. Pensioned with extreme prejudice.

What will be funny is if all the men from the compound get together and declare war on all of the ones who destroyed their families. :D:):):)

Oy Ze Hate
April 13th, 2008, 12:02 AM
This whole thing stinks of jews.

Well you should do one of your jew exposes on it.

And please, explain your sources, other than common sense, so that we may all learn the same methods.

Sándor Petőfi
April 13th, 2008, 12:48 AM
I'll bet whoever made the call was not the 16 yr old in question. It was probably some older jealous old gal who acted like she was 16

I'll bet the call wasn't made from the ranch.

zzdiesel
April 13th, 2008, 02:36 AM
After watching Geraldo & Nancy Grace earlier; I now wonder if the call was actually made or not. It's looking like another Waco, but without the confrontation.

Bassanio
April 13th, 2008, 07:45 AM
This event marks the beginning of a new era in the Kwa.

So much for our PLE pipe dream.

S.-O.
April 13th, 2008, 07:47 AM
Just saw some dye blonde, overweight mouthpiece for some church on the local news talking about how these kids were so healthy and respectful and how good their diets were, how helpful they were, etc,etc, and in the same breath she goes on to say how evil and disturbing this "cult" is. how sad that they don't watch tv and listen to hannah montana cds and cuss their elders like good -ole "normal" kids. If I'm not mistaken this is the broad they trotted out to say how wonderful it was that the modern church was beginning to accept gays. the world is going to hell.....

Bill
April 13th, 2008, 07:51 AM
The U.S. is pretty much unlivable anymore. I wonder why these Mormons even stay? They likely could do quite well in a country not run by Israeli terrorists.

Bassanio
April 13th, 2008, 07:57 AM
They likely could do quite well in a country not run by Israeli terrorists.

No such white country left.

Bill
April 13th, 2008, 08:04 AM
No such white country left.

Venezuela is about 44% white

Russia

Belarus

Estonia

.........hell, even Canada has not attacked the poly's like this, yet.

Bassanio
April 13th, 2008, 08:35 AM
Venezuela is about 44% white

Russia

Belarus

Estonia

.........hell, even Canada has not attacked the poly's like this, yet.


Venezuela -- minority white with a crazy wetback in power.

Russia -- owned and operated by Jewry since 1917.

Belarus -- closed to outsiders.

Estonia -- any country that's a part of the European Union is controlled by Israeli terrorists.

Canada -- no comment.


But to agree with you in part--yes, a few of the countries above could be considered a better place to live, but law, language and logistics make en mass migration to these countries next to impossible (if you're white, of course).

Aistulf
April 13th, 2008, 09:04 AM
I'd say Iran, with a sizable Aryan population (and in control and exclusively represented in the entertainment industries) and with an unofficial caste-system, but then I'd probably be called a “raghead” and a “mud lover” so I won't. :rolleyes: