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ANSWP Commander
April 13th, 2008, 02:12 PM
Anyone else noticing the rioting over lack of food that is occurring all over the world?

Its like some apocalyptic science fiction novel ...

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=international+food+riots&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=1&ct=title

How close is the US to similar riots?

I can say we've had 15 apartments turn over this month -- and while we've fillled almost all of them, the number one reason has been the inability of tenants to pay for basic services, like electricity, gasoline, or food, when combined with their apartment.

zzdiesel
April 13th, 2008, 02:43 PM
It'll be over not being able to afford food here before being over a lack of food.

Sándor Petőfi
April 13th, 2008, 03:03 PM
It's like Revilo Oliver said. We cannot feed six billion. They'll blame this and that, but the fact that they're not telling us is that consumption passed production some time back. That means most of the world, the third world in particular, is on borrowed time. Evidently that time is beginning to run out.

When that happens, anarchy will ensue. First they'll raid supplies, then they'll hit the farmlands, then they'll hunt animals, when those are gone they'll try grass and dirt, and they'll end with eating each other. Estimated death toll? Billions.

psychologicalshock
April 13th, 2008, 03:07 PM
It's like Revilo Oliver said. We cannot feed six billion. They'll blame this and that, but the fact that they're not telling us is that consumption passed production some time back. That means most of the world, the third world in particular, is on borrowed time. Evidently that time is beginning to run out.

What's funny is they plan to get the world to 10 billion. Hundreds of millions will die from starvation,disease and war, but it doesn't bother me. Nature strikes back no matter what.

The question is how can you keep feeding millions of people when they outnumber you by a coefficient of 10 or more?

Sándor Petőfi
April 13th, 2008, 03:22 PM
What's funny is they plan to get the world to 10 billion. Hundreds of millions will die from starvation,disease and war, but it doesn't bother me. Nature strikes back no matter what.

The question is how can you keep feeding millions of people when they outnumber you by a coefficient of 10 or more?

The only thing that is going to bother me about it is that it is going to be an ecological disaster. On the other hand, billions of subhumans dying will be the saving grace of this planet.

ANSWP Commander
April 13th, 2008, 04:23 PM
The only thing that is going to bother me about it is that it is going to be an ecological disaster. On the other hand, billions of subhumans dying will be the saving grace of this planet.

What bothers me is that we have 80 million subhumans we can't afford to feed and 15 million Jew demons egging them on sitting here in our land.

The time is coming to arm ourselves against them and prepare for the hard work of their annihilation.

KMRATHELL
April 13th, 2008, 04:32 PM
If and when we ever get control of our lands again we need to retrench our armed forces. Sealing the borders with Mexico and Canada with them, and enough naval power to deter or stop dead in the water any attempts to colonize us further. Withdraw our troops from NATO, Korea, Japan, just about everywhere overseas. Stop treating countries pursuing natural options, such as China from reacquiring Taiwan, as enemies. Let China do what it has to do and let us do what we have to do without getting messed up in artificial entanglements that only further the cause of our decline. We should be storing foods now. Grains, stored under the right conditions can last over a decade. Screw the other starving countries.

Right is Right
April 13th, 2008, 05:15 PM
There are two main causes for the rising price of agricultural commodities, one is that American and European governments have been subsidizing and encouraging the production of renewable fuels, primarily gasoline and diesel additives made of corn and raps, this takes away farm land for the production of food, particularly in the Kwa where corn crops are heavily subsidized to produce ethanol. Financial speculation is the other thing driving up prices of food right now, the main driver of this speculative bubble is the Fed’s absurdly easy money policies and Amerikwa’s refusal to subject itself to a cleansing recession.

The world can actually produce more than enough food, it was only four or five years ago that farmers were getting jack shit for their products, in Europe many small farms quit and land has been returned to the wild for years up until this latest speculative bubble in agricultural commodities. I still remember reading four or five years ago where European politicians were complaining about lakes of wine and mountains of grain.

Draegn88
April 13th, 2008, 05:40 PM
I feel that if there are any riots over food, that they will take place in the larger metropolitan and suburan areas first.

zzdiesel
April 13th, 2008, 06:51 PM
Yep, because us here in the rural areas can raise our own food easier. Instead of worrying about Crows stealing the food; we'd have to worry about Niggers ravaging our gardens

ANSWP Commander
April 13th, 2008, 06:58 PM
As long as the niggers have cars, they'll be able to get to the farms.

Just remember what is causing starvation in Africa: They had plenty of food until they killed the white farmers.

May all the niggers starve.

Unrest in 33 countries; starvation imminent in 40; one billion niggers and South Asians, primarily, at risk:

YouTube - FOOD RIOTS Begin Worldwide

Rottenfuhrer
April 13th, 2008, 09:23 PM
Those fucking baby seals will be delicious!

Christopher Drake
April 13th, 2008, 09:38 PM
You know whats awsome? That is the negro kill-switch (quicker than AIDS). Hurricane Katrina reminded us that negros as the weakest, most white-dependant race on the planet.

I was sitting in the woods today thinking of how no matter what happened to the urban world, there I was surrounded by food the means to grow much more than myself and my family would ever need. I'm half from the stock of carreer military men and the other half have almost all been farmers. I thought about the scores of animals that can be brought down by a $.03 .22 bullet and even more that I could easily take down with my carbine. I'm not talking about deer either---most people who sight deer as survival food think there are as many deer to be eaten as cows. And of course, we wouldn't eat meat all the time, just while we were getting some farming in order. Maybe my next book will be about a white farm surviving after the food runs out and the pet negros try to loot the countryside.

If you can get to the woods or water, provided you are white, you'll be fine. You'll ride this thing out. Niggie can play his ball games, sing songs and act but rarely take care of himself in great numbers. Watch and see. Hard ass, stone kol gangstas starving to death, yo!

melcur
April 13th, 2008, 10:06 PM
As long as the niggers have cars, they'll be able to get to the farms.


LOL Bill, you're such a comedian. I'm starting to see you in a different light, you've got a helluva sense of humor. Niggers taking their cars from the inner city and driving into the country to pillage White farms. You're giving the nigger far too much credit, you're average nigger truly believes food grows on the shelves of their local stores and that water magically springs from their faucets. Houston has 1.5 million niggers - 99% of them would wait for the White man to come save them if the food stopped being shipped and the water quit magically springing from their slum lords faucets. By the time the dimwitted savages figured out that Whitey is never coming to save them they'll be within 24 hours of dying from thirst - to weak to do anything. They'll pillage and riot right in their own neighborhoods initially, they'll move into the White areas, consume all the bottled water and swimming pool water in ten days, and then, mercifully they'll all fucking die.

Your average starving nigger wouldn't know what to do if you dropped his worthless black ass in the middle of a cornfield. Corn comes in cans, not husks. He'd need a Jewish social worker for instructions and all the Jews will be gone when it gets to this point, they'll be too busy trying to get to Tel Aviv. LOL.

Bill, you ought to give up real estate and go into comedy - you're a riot!

Unrest in 33 countries; starvation imminent in 40; one billion niggers and South Asians, primarily, at risk:

YouTube - FOOD RIOTS Begin Worldwide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAtyjrehu94)

melcur
April 13th, 2008, 10:09 PM
I thought about the scores of animals that can be brought down by a $.03 .22 bullet and even more that I could easily take down with my carbine. I'm not talking about deer either---most people who sight deer as survival food think there are as many deer to be eaten as cows.

Very true, most here would be very surprised at how much they'd come to appreciate coon, possum, squirrel, and armadillo when they have a hankering for a bit of meat and can't go to Wal-Mart to get it.

richyrichard
April 13th, 2008, 10:19 PM
Meanwhile, our government pays farmers not to grow food.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080227004917AAeBWzY

Sándor Petőfi
April 13th, 2008, 11:51 PM
The world can actually produce more than enough food

The "world" actually isn't producing "more than enough food".


Meanwhile, our government pays farmers not to grow food.

Are you saying it's your responsibility to feed a billion subhumans in Africa?

richyrichard
April 14th, 2008, 12:11 AM
Abolish the US Department of Health and Human Services, the food stamp program, and HUD and there will be 10 million niggers in this country out rioting in the streets. When our governmentally sabotaged economy finally collapses, this will happen.

Itz_molecular
April 14th, 2008, 12:13 AM
Financial speculation is the other thing driving up prices of food right now, the main driver of this speculative bubble is the Fed’s absurdly easy money policies and Amerikwa’s refusal to subject itself to a cleansing recession.



They can't . At the present over leveraged ( too much borrowed money ) condition of the US economy , it would be a dam bust . The US needed a prolonged recession decades ago , but that would have disrupted the jews greater plans, mass immigration , affirmative action , foreign aid , exporting jobs , importation of foreign goods . So , they fueled the system by printing money . That caused bubble after bubble .

Seems we're on the same path as Weimar Germany , just 90 years later .

Food riots , sure . It's the consequence of 100+ oil , diesel , fertilizer , pesticides . All are petroleum based .

richyrichard
April 14th, 2008, 12:42 AM
The "world" actually isn't producing "more than enough food".

Are you saying it's your responsibility to feed a billion subhumans in Africa?

Hell no. I'm merely pointing out the double standard of our government that whines about world hunger while paying farmers not to grow.

I don't want to feed the niggers in this country! Apparently, you are unfamiliar with my last several years of postings.

Nice avatar!

Vonbluvens
April 14th, 2008, 12:57 AM
If it wasn't for white societies non-whites wouldn't have been able to outproduce the food supply.

It really is the fault of idiotic whites with their misplaced sense of helping these other races outproduce us and ultimately destroy us.

Yes, it is of Biblical proportions, isn't it?

BTW- Descriptions of race wars is in the Bible was given as another indication of the coming destruction/antichrist before our Lord returns.

"Nation will rise up against nation..." (that passage in the N.T. was written in Greek BTW) The term "nation" in the Greek means ethnos or "race". "Race will rise up against race..."

alex
April 14th, 2008, 04:09 AM
There are two main causes for the rising price of agricultural commodities, one is that American and European governments have been subsidizing and encouraging the production of renewable fuels, primarily gasoline and diesel additives made of corn and raps, this takes away farm land for the production of food, particularly in the Kwa where corn crops are heavily subsidized to produce ethanol. Financial speculation is the other thing driving up prices of food right now, the main driver of this speculative bubble is the Fed’s absurdly easy money policies and Amerikwa’s refusal to subject itself to a cleansing recession.

The world can actually produce more than enough food, it was only four or five years ago that farmers were getting jack shit for their products, in Europe many small farms quit and land has been returned to the wild for years up until this latest speculative bubble in agricultural commodities. I still remember reading four or five years ago where European politicians were complaining about lakes of wine and mountains of grain.

Thats correct. I would add a third point, namely the increased living standard of a portion of the asian population (China, India). This new asian middle class longs for a more western "diet". Oats and corn for example are used as forage for the cattle.

Kievsky
April 14th, 2008, 08:10 AM
A Method for Making Sharp, Distinct Mounded Raised Beds with Hand Tools Only

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm96/rfreez/3.jpg

A problem that hand tool farmers have faced for years is how to actually deal with Mother Earth, since we have decided not to crush and beat and chop and cut her into submission with roaring machines such as rototillers, or worse ploughs, disks and harrows attached to monstrous tractors. It is an existential, philosophical crisis that one faces when confronted with the brutal equation of Energy Returned on Energy Invested (EROEI) and the frightening fact that on average it takes 10 calories of oil to make one calorie of food.

Stricken with the reality of one’s existence depending on oil wells, you find yourself looking at stubborn clumps of grass clinging desperately to soil for very life, for it’s own place in the sun. And here you are, with a shovel and a wheelbarrow, determined to separate the patches of grass and their root-clumps from the life giving soil, so you can colonize a piece of God’s Green Earth for the use of Man.

It takes determination and patience and persistence above all to be a principled hand tool farmer. The one allowable exception to the hand tool rule is that you can use a pickup truck to bring manure to your farm. But no machines should ever tread on your growing spaces, not even your feet if possible. Why? The first reason is that machines crush the soil structure and destroy the microbial soil web. Soils under mechanized cultivation become homogenized, and seem to dry out quicker and wear out more quickly, requiring more frequent amendments. The second reason is that machines require up-front investment and continuous fueling and maintenance, driving overproduction and “biting off more than you can chew.” Thus you have to sell X amount of your harvest just to break even, and the existence of the Industrial business farmer depends on, of all things, the price of fuel! The sorry history of business farming has millions of sad tales of debt, ruin and even suicide of mechanized business farmers who couldn’t pay their banker. The ethic of hand tool farming is to reverse these economics – to minimize expense, to completely self capitalize, to tap into the waste stream for soil and fertilizer (e.g. horse manure and spoiled hay of local horse farms), to feed oneself and one’s family before thinking of selling any of the harvest, and to enjoy what you are doing without the pressure of having to sell X amount of the harvest just to break even. Ultimately the goal of the hand tool farming movement is to set the example and popularize our model of food production creating a social and political movement based on family-scale backyard agriculture, and to exert influence over national agricultural policy to favor family farms practicing biological farming over corporate farms using Industrial and Petrochemical and GMO. The motto of the hand tool farming movement is “Save yourself; then save others.” We Americans are passively responsible for a lot of the problems in the world; hand tool farming is a necessary first step towards taking responsibility and control of ourselves, so we can eventually take responsibility for what’s being done in our names.

But first we must conquer our own fear of that hard, stubborn sod. How do we, flabby modern people, colonize a piece of God’s Green Earth for our use? There are two basic problems in turning lawns or meadow into garden: First is distinguishing the growing space from the walking space; second is taking the growing space from Nature for use by Man by removing grass, weeds, and clumps of roots and making nice fluffy soil for planting and cultivating. I have tried many ways; but only last weekend I found the best way.

Equipment needed: A pointed shovel, a wheelbarrow, and a dryer drum or other metal cylinder of similar size. A dryer drum should be easy enough to acquire; call local appliance stores and offer them 10 dollars if they can pull one out of a “dead dryer” for you, or go to the dump or look out back of appliance stores and get one yourself. You’ll need a screwdriver and maybe a 5/16 nut driver, and a knife to cut the belt that is around the dryer drum. A garbage can with the bottom cut out will work too.

Sifting the clumps of sod to separate weeds and rootballs from good dirt is the main activity. You shovel up a piece of sod where you are going to clear land, hold the blade of the shovel full of sod over the wheelbarrow and shake it up and down. Another thing you can do is put the clump of sod in the wheel barrow and gently shake it to shake out the soil so you are left with the root ball and grass clump, which you can throw away.

Clear the land big enough for the dryer drum or other bottomless barrel, and put the drum on the cleared land, and dump the dirt in your wheelbarrow into the dryer drum. Picture 1.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm96/rfreez/Hand_tool_gardening/1.jpg

Then clear land and sift more soil in the area around the dryer drum to give it some space on both sides, and to start advancing clearing land down the row. In my case I have multiple dryer drums so I filled a second one with sifted soil next to the first onePicture 2.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm96/rfreez/Hand_tool_gardening/2.jpg

Then you take the dryer drum and pull it off, leaving a mound of dirt. Do this repeatedly down a row, so you have a straight line of mounds of sifted dirt with cleared land around it, so you have a rectangle about 2.5 feet wide and as long as you please. Then take a rake and rake the mounds together, and flatten the whole thing out just a little bit. Now you have a beautiful mounded raised bed! Picture 3

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm96/rfreez/Hand_tool_gardening/3.jpg

Put down grass clippings or hay and wooden boards or flat stones on the borders around the raised bed so have your distinct walking path and distinct borders. DO NOT WALK ON YOUR RAISED BED EVER. It will be slightly elevated, and it will have a sharp, professional look, as though a rototiller machine did it. If it ever needs to be “freshened up” or you want to add amendments like manure or grass clippings, you can either throw them right on, or dig out a space the size of the dryer drum, put the dryer drum back on, and fill the dryer drum back up with whatever soil mix you want to use. It will be much quicker than the first time because you won’t be sifting out vegetation and root clumps.

The trick is, of course, the dryer drum. The dryer drum acts as a “mold.” Soil is interesting stuff; it’s certainly a solid, but in some ways it can act like a liquid or at least a gel. If you just try to mound it with a shovel, it won’t pile up very high, or very neatly. But if you pile it up inside a dryer drum, when you pull the drum off it does keep a lot of its height and a lot of its shape – a lot more than without using a mold.

The dryer drum molded raised bed will be easy to work with. It’s borders will be clear, and you will be able to reach into it without having to step on the growing space. The soil will be loose so weeds will pull out easy, and root crops will be able to sink down. The only disadvantage to this design is that it is time consuming and requires persistence. But the bulk of the work is the first time in building it, and you’ll have years of great yields with minimal maintenance and minimal expense. If anyone reading this feels discouraged at the thought of colonizing a piece of God’s Green earth with mere hand tools, or if you need a dryer drum, post a comment.

Stan Sikorski
April 14th, 2008, 08:47 AM
Thanks for the tips Kievsky. Today is to be one of the first in a series of days over 60 degrees, and from what I understand it will continue. Spring is finally in Wisconsin. I will be getting out and tilling and laying out "the garden" today. I have corn, carrots, potatos, tomatos, cucumbers, bell peppers, and onions planned. Maybe a few other things. I will be planting sunflowers all around as well. I love the seed for snacking. I'll plant some herbs as well. I have some natural blackberry plants and mint around the edge of the property too.

I heard on the radio this morning that Wisconsin farmers are starting to stress that they can't get into their fields to plant because of flooded conditions. Driving to the gigs this weekend I did see many fields that were either super-muddy or outright lakes. The farmer interviewed said it will likely cause prices to go up this year if they can't get into those fields soon. If you've never been to Wisconsin, it is one sprawling cornfield after another.

Christopher Drake
April 14th, 2008, 08:52 AM
This thread is fucking with me. I stopped working on my racialist writing to give Mike a chance to catch up on editing my first book. I started a science fiction book and got about 100 pages into it. I'll never put my name on the sci-fi book, btw, its way too steamy and somebody related to me might pick it up.

So all last night I started thinking about a book. The book would be about a small white farm where the people barely got by (something I can totally envision). Kids worked hard, parents always stressed out. The economy sucks so relatives move nearby and ask to work on the farm just for room and board. Everything is going to hell when the system runs out of food. All of a sudden, the crops that were going to be left in the field since fuel was worth more than the crops, became worth a fuck of a lot in terms of survival.

The oldest kid has been around a little and knows how bad the world has became. He talks Papa into getting everyone together to close off the farm and start keeping watch for people looking to steal their food. Next they elect to not run the combine to harvest the...corn...and instead pick it by hand, using the diesel for generators. Papa suggests they all stay on the farm for about a month and let the cities smolder. About a week later comes trouble. The Christian neighbor approaches the farmers with their negro refugees. The farmers turn them away and then later that night decide to bring the neighbors and their negro friends a little bit of food, provided they will leave. They find the neighbors dead. The story goes on from there.

Sound good? Sound good enough to put aside the sexy sci-fi story?

General_Lee
April 14th, 2008, 09:15 AM
Sound good? Sound good enough to put aside the sexy sci-fi story?

Sounds good to me. I'd buy it. Sort of has a Steven King The Stand ring to it.

M-O-O-N !! That spells Nebraska!!

GREL

Kievsky
April 14th, 2008, 09:17 AM
This thread is fucking with me. I stopped working on my racialist writing to give Mike a chance to catch up on editing my first book. I started a science fiction book and got about 100 pages into it. I'll never put my name on the sci-fi book, btw, its way too steamy and somebody related to me might pick it up.

So all last night I started thinking about a book. The book would be about a small white farm where the people barely got by (something I can totally envision). Kids worked hard, parents always stressed out. The economy sucks so relatives move nearby and ask to work on the farm just for room and board. Everything is going to hell when the system runs out of food. All of a sudden, the crops that were going to be left in the field since fuel was worth more than the crops, became worth a fuck of a lot in terms of survival.

The oldest kid has been around a little and knows how bad the world has became. He talks Papa into getting everyone together to close off the farm and start keeping watch for people looking to steal their food. Next they elect to not run the combine to harvest the...corn...and instead pick it by hand, using the diesel for generators. Papa suggests they all stay on the farm for about a month and let the cities smolder. About a week later comes trouble. The Christian neighbor approaches the farmers with their negro refugees. The farmers turn them away and then later that night decide to bring the neighbors and their negro friends a little bit of food, provided they will leave. They find the neighbors dead. The story goes on from there.

Sound good? Sound good enough to put aside the sexy sci-fi story?

Sounds great Drake! Write it up! Leave one of the Christians surviving so he can tell what the negro refugees did to them, and what a mistake it was to shelter those people.

RebelWithACause
April 14th, 2008, 09:17 AM
This thread is fucking with me. I stopped working on my racialist writing to give Mike a chance to catch up on editing my first book. I started a science fiction book and got about 100 pages into it. I'll never put my name on the sci-fi book, btw, its way too steamy and somebody related to me might pick it up.

So all last night I started thinking about a book. The book would be about a small white farm where the people barely got by (something I can totally envision). Kids worked hard, parents always stressed out. The economy sucks so relatives move nearby and ask to work on the farm just for room and board. Everything is going to hell when the system runs out of food. All of a sudden, the crops that were going to be left in the field since fuel was worth more than the crops, became worth a fuck of a lot in terms of survival.

The oldest kid has been around a little and knows how bad the world has became. He talks Papa into getting everyone together to close off the farm and start keeping watch for people looking to steal their food. Next they elect to not run the combine to harvest the...corn...and instead pick it by hand, using the diesel for generators. Papa suggests they all stay on the farm for about a month and let the cities smolder. About a week later comes trouble. The Christian neighbor approaches the farmers with their negro refugees. The farmers turn them away and then later that night decide to bring the neighbors and their negro friends a little bit of food, provided they will leave. They find the neighbors dead. The story goes on from there.

Sound good? Sound good enough to put aside the sexy sci-fi story?

I'm a huge fan of the sci-fi genre, but the 'racialist fiction cautionary tales' genre is SORELY lacking in good material.

I'd like to hear the rest of the story...

Kievsky
April 14th, 2008, 09:34 AM
Thanks for the tips Kievsky. Today is to be one of the first in a series of days over 60 degrees, and from what I understand it will continue. Spring is finally in Wisconsin. I will be getting out and tilling and laying out "the garden" today. I have corn, carrots, potatos, tomatos, cucumbers, bell peppers, and onions planned. Maybe a few other things. I will be planting sunflowers all around as well. I love the seed for snacking. I'll plant some herbs as well. I have some natural blackberry plants and mint around the edge of the property too.

I heard on the radio this morning that Wisconsin farmers are starting to stress that they can't get into their fields to plant because of flooded conditions. Driving to the gigs this weekend I did see many fields that were either super-muddy or outright lakes. The farmer interviewed said it will likely cause prices to go up this year if they can't get into those fields soon. If you've never been to Wisconsin, it is one sprawling cornfield after another.

Stan,

High raised beds will help with a wet field. Also, dig a drainage trenches between the beds and fill them with rocks and have the drainage trenches go somewhere of lower elevation. I only know the rudimentaries of this, ask a landscape designer or google dat shit, or just experiment on a small piece of land and see how it works.

Be sure to get your soil tested at the local farming extension office. Here you buy their special envelope for 5 bucks, put your sample in it, and mail it in, and they send you back a report. If it's very clayish you might need to add coarse vermiculite. A cheaper way to fix your soil, whether it's sandy or clayish, is to gather your neighbors' leaves in big piles, put horse or cow manure on top of the leaf piles to hold the piles down, and wait a year or two for the leaves to rot down. Rotted leaves make very nice soil, and the top layer of manure heats them up, leaches into the leaf piles, and keeps the leaves from blowing away. Also, when you have such a pile, you can grow squash/cukes/melons on fresh manure no problem.

Also, I've tried a zillion things for trellising the vining plants. I finally settled on cattle panel. 20 bucks for a 16 foot long, 52 inch high trellis VOT A DEAL! That's a lot of peas, beans and/or grapes! You can even try to train cukes to climb up it. You do need a couple fence posts to hold it up.

Fertilize every three weeks or so. I suggest getting Maxicrop seaweed powder from www.maxicrop.com one teaspoon per gallon of water, use as a leaf spray. Only water at night, because watering in the day can burn the plants. Also, go fishing for junk fish like carp and suckers and the like, the sort of fish on which there is no limit and people generally don't eat. Chop them up and run the pieces through a large food processor, and then put the fish stuff in a bucket of water and let it sit for a while. Then water with your home-made fish emulsion instead of buying the stuff for 8 bucks a gallon. Or you can buy it if you don't go fishing. Fish emulsion is very good fertilizer and obviously 100% organic and natural. Even if the body of water is polluted, the pollutants will be vastly diluted.

Wagner
April 14th, 2008, 12:32 PM
... and they'll end with eating each other.

Soylent Green, anyone? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/

Soylent green is people

-Wagner

Donnachaidh
April 14th, 2008, 02:31 PM
"The international community must fill the at least $500 million food gap identified by the U.N.'s World Food Programme to meet emergency needs," he said. "Governments should be able to come up with this assistance and come up with it now."

The World Bank announced a $10 million grant from the United States for Haiti to help the government assist poor families.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/04/14/world.food.crisis/index.html

The ZOG can be brought down if enough white men refuse to subsidize it. If you are in the position to move to the country and do some farming to subsidize your existence, you will be that much more independent. When the SHTF, the niggers and their handlers will last a couple weeks or until the other white meat runs out. Look at it this way, every veggie you grow yourself is a blow against the ZOG. No jew middleman made a profit on it and no jew government collected tax money from it. Little cuts from a thousand different directions will bring this tyranny down.

Christopher Drake
April 14th, 2008, 03:56 PM
OK, got the first chapter banged out as well a charecter backgrounds. Its writing itself. I'll skip my prior engagements tonight and work on it until I have to sleep. No garuantees this will be a book but if I get a few hundred pages into it, it might be. Elisha, Mike's got his hands full on the last one. If this one takes root, would you edit this one?

Aside from that, I think I might also plant some stuff today, even though its supposed to get cold one more night around here before we should see it warming up. I'm going potatoes and onions for now. Later in the season I might plant more.

In the meantime while we are all waiting for any or all of my books to come out, you guys be sure to check out Patriot Act by D. A. Hanks as well as his other books. Doug is tops in my book and I'll put in the good word for his works any day.

Pathogen
April 14th, 2008, 06:18 PM
This "food crisis" feels contrived to me. There really is no reason -- based on pure fundamentals -- for the price of oil to be over $100.00 a barrel, and likewise no reason for gasoline to be over $3.00.

I have a sense that this "food crisis" isn't just a random occurrence, but is a deliberate policy. The rise of hedge funds in recent years has really altered the financial system. Money that was previously invested in equities can now be invested in commodities directly through the futures market. I suspect that the rise of the hedge fund is playing a big part here, and with sufficient capital anyone can bid up the price of oil, grains, gold whatever.

John A.
April 14th, 2008, 06:56 PM
Throw straw and pulled weeds in the low spot between the rows if moisture is needed. It helps hold water and can be turned in with a shovel later; further improving the soil. Thats how we did it, anyhow.

Kievsky
April 14th, 2008, 07:25 PM
This "food crisis" feels contrived to me. There really is no reason -- based on pure fundamentals -- for the price of oil to be over $100.00 a barrel, and likewise no reason for gasoline to be over $3.00.

I have a sense that this "food crisis" isn't just a random occurrence, but is a deliberate policy. The rise of hedge funds in recent years has really altered the financial system. Money that was previously invested in equities can now be invested in commodities directly through the futures market. I suspect that the rise of the hedge fund is playing a big part here, and with sufficient capital anyone can bid up the price of oil, grains, gold whatever.

Kevin at Cryptogon.com thinks that alternative energy technologies already exist to replace oil, and that the elites are planning a kill off of several billion people. They grew the population to grow the economy, then they will kill off the population to "reset the clock," so to speak. Henry Kissinger used the term, "useless eaters," and most kill off conspiracy theories are based on this quote.

Just providing an alternative view. I'm a conventional peak oiler, though I think the elites were stupid and burned up the easy oil real fast to make money fast, and then they are going to leave us peons in the lurch. We are going to be like a bichon frise dog, thoroughly domesticated, and left in the middle of the woods in the middle of winter.

Donnachaidh
April 14th, 2008, 08:04 PM
Kevin at Cryptogon.com thinks that alternative energy technologies already exist to replace oil, and that the elites are planning a kill off of several billion people. They grew the population to grow the economy, then they will kill off the population to "reset the clock," so to speak. Henry Kissinger used the term, "useless eaters," and most kill off conspiracy theories are based on this quote.

Just providing an alternative view. I'm a conventional peak oiler, though I think the elites were stupid and burned up the easy oil real fast to make money fast, and then they are going to leave us peons in the lurch. We are going to be like a bichon frise dog, thoroughly domesticated, and left in the middle of the woods in the middle of winter.

In that case, the mansions of the elite will start looking like a pretty warm and cozy place to all those outsiders. If they engineer this in the kwa, they will have overplayed their hand. Hungry cold men have nothing to lose.

Hate Beast
April 14th, 2008, 08:06 PM
Here's a global map of the food riots:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=111978968522160403318.00044a6ea5a7a1230bde4&ll=9.449062,-13.710937&spn=103.777378,149.414063&z=2&source=embed

Largely nonhumans it appears.

richyrichard
April 15th, 2008, 12:42 AM
This "food crisis" feels contrived to me. There really is no reason -- based on pure fundamentals -- for the price of oil to be over $100.00 a barrel, and likewise no reason for gasoline to be over $3.00.

I have a sense that this "food crisis" isn't just a random occurrence, but is a deliberate policy. The rise of hedge funds in recent years has really altered the financial system. Money that was previously invested in equities can now be invested in commodities directly through the futures market. I suspect that the rise of the hedge fund is playing a big part here, and with sufficient capital anyone can bid up the price of oil, grains, gold whatever.

Its largely jewsmedia bs, looking to make excuses for a UN controlled global re-distribution scheme. I think most of the protests center around the price of food moreso than the lack of it. Where shortages occur, I agree, its caused that way. People aren't just starving, they are being starved.

Pathogen
April 15th, 2008, 06:49 PM
Take a look at this website (http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/view/SijkhHsOtha63~EEOWmhH2~)

It looks as though worldwide demand for oil in 2003 was a little over 80 billion. In 2007 it was about 82 billion, look here (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_con-energy-oil-consumption).

Before the war in Iraq began a barrel of oil was trading around $25.00, and now it's over $110.00. I'm not exactly sure why the invasion of Iraq has caused the price of oil to skyrocket and I can't find any plausible explanations. Joseph Stiglitz in his book the 3 Trillion Dollar war even expressed uncertainty about why prices are so high. I'm sure it's a scam though.

Aistulf
April 16th, 2008, 07:15 AM
Soylent Green, anyone? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/
That would've been a great film if it didn't feature the Solomon “Sol” Roth character and if it didn't have such an anticlimactic and boring end.