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Abzug Hoffman
July 9th, 2004, 10:11 AM
Are Iranians and their Afghan brothers banging down the door to get into the white nationalist movement? Somehow, I don't think so.
Shapur
July 9th, 2004, 10:52 AM
Are Iranians and their Afghan brothers banging down the door to get into the white nationalist movement? Somehow, I don't think so.
Afghan is a nationality. Iranian is a race!
We Iranians are Aryans our name say all.
What you think is your problem!
Vivaodio
July 9th, 2004, 12:24 PM
Afghan is a nationality. Iranian is a race!
We Iranians are Aryans our name say all.
What you think is your problem!
The problem is that cammel jockey shit-skins keep trying to graft themselves onto the White race. I don't give a fuck how White you think you are or your people look, make sure you keep your genes with your own ilk. We don't need some greasy raghead trying to be White. I can tell you firsthand that you will never be welcome at a White rally and rightfully so, we are only trying to save the EUROPEAN White race, not some mid-east turban heads.
http://www.cheungswingchun.com/Images/China%20Tour/Iranians.WC.jpeg
http://abel.math.harvard.edu/~abhinav/Iranians_2.jpg
http://www.metimes.com/issue98-38/metpix/released_iranians.gif
Let me make it clear just once for you "shapur", your ARE NOT my brethren, is that clear enough?
Abzug Hoffman
July 9th, 2004, 05:31 PM
Afghan is a nationality. Iranian is a race!
And who's in this race besides you? Do not include any blood types or maps in your answer.
diabloblanco92
July 9th, 2004, 08:56 PM
The problem is that cammel jockey shit-skins keep trying to graft themselves onto the White race. I don't give a fuck how White you think you are or your people look, make sure you keep your genes with your own ilk. We don't need some greasy raghead trying to be White. I can tell you firsthand that you will never be welcome at a White rally and rightfully so, we are only trying to save the EUROPEAN White race, not some mid-east turban heads.
http://www.cheungswingchun.com/Images/China%20Tour/Iranians.WC.jpeg
http://abel.math.harvard.edu/~abhinav/Iranians_2.jpg
http://www.metimes.com/issue98-38/metpix/released_iranians.gif
Let me make it clear just once for you "shapur", your ARE NOT my brethren, is that clear enough?
Speak for yourself! Iam NOT a EUROPEAN nationalist, I am a WHITE NATIONALIST. I am not interested in the preservation of artificial social constructs, but MI RAZA, LA RAZA BLANCA.....and NOTHING ELSE.
If I find a White whether its in Teheran or Trondheim or Brooklyn, he or she is MY BROTHER OR SISTER. WE will not surrender one of our nationalities to NWO's $1/hr slave labor racemixing machine, least of all thouse from the ancient Aryan homeland or our race!
POR LA RAZA ARIA TODO. POR LOS OTROS, NADA!
diabloblanco92
ArmSla
July 10th, 2004, 01:15 AM
Non-mixed Iranians are white. They have generally dark hair and brown eyes but there are some who are even blond.
The problem with Iran is that there is way too much Turkic and semitic infiltration.
Shapur
July 10th, 2004, 06:41 AM
Non-mixed Iranians are white. They have generally dark hair and brown eyes but there are some who are even blond.
The problem with Iran is that there is way too much Turkic and semitic infiltration.
Which Turkic and Semitic inflitration? We have maybe 5 million non-Iranians in Iran by a population of 70 million.
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 06:48 AM
Speak for yourself! Iam NOT a EUROPEAN nationalist, I am a WHITE NATIONALIST. I am not interested in the preservation of artificial social constructs, but MI RAZA, LA RAZA BLANCA.....and NOTHING ELSE.
If I find a White whether its in Teheran or Trondheim or Brooklyn, he or she is MY BROTHER OR SISTER. WE will not surrender one of our nationalities to NWO's $1/hr slave labor racemixing machine, least of all thouse from the ancient Aryan homeland or our race!
POR LA RAZA ARIA TODO. POR LOS OTROS, NADA!
diabloblanco92
Whatever floats you're boat. If Iranians, Afghanis,Jews, Niggers want to call themselves White then that's fine and dandy. They should preserve their Whiteness within THEIR OWN Group. As long as they don't think they're going to assimilate themselves into the Euro gene pool then I have no problem.
DEBEMOS ASEGURAR LA EXISTENCIA De NUESTRA GENTE Y UN FUTURO PARA LOS NIÑOS BLANCOS!!
DEBEMOS MANTENER LA PURIDAD DE EUROPA!!
Abzug Hoffman
July 10th, 2004, 09:34 AM
Speak for yourself! Iam NOT a EUROPEAN nationalist, I am a WHITE NATIONALIST. I am not interested in the preservation of artificial social constructs, but MI RAZA, LA RAZA BLANCA.....and NOTHING ELSE.
If I find a White whether its in Teheran or Trondheim or Brooklyn, he or she is MY BROTHER OR SISTER. WE will not surrender one of our nationalities to NWO's $1/hr slave labor racemixing machine, least of all thouse from the ancient Aryan homeland or our race!
POR LA RAZA ARIA TODO. POR LOS OTROS, NADA!
diabloblanco92
You know I thought those Iranians on the Iranian personals page looked more like Mexicans than anything else. It figures la raza would claim them. But they don't look at all like white aryan europe!
Now Afghans are a different story. THEY look like some kind of Italians, a country which is at least is in Europe, not mexico.
ArmSla
July 10th, 2004, 10:04 AM
Which Turkic and Semitic inflitration? We have maybe 5 million non-Iranians in Iran by a population of 70 million.
Only 5 million Turks and Arabs? Azeris are Turks by the way. How about all the people mixed with Turks and Arabs. I think Persians make up 50% of the population.
These guys look very mixed to me:
http://i-cias.com/e.o/ill/iran-iraq-war01.jpg
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 11:24 AM
Only 5 million Turks and Arabs? Azeris are Turks by the way. How about all the people mixed with Turks and Arabs. I think Persians make up 50% of the population.
These guys look very mixed to me:
http://i-cias.com/e.o/ill/iran-iraq-war01.jpg
Whatever they are it's clear they're not White.
Now Afghans are a different story. THEY look like some kind of Italians, a country which is at least is in Europe, not mexico.
What in god's name are you trying to infer about Italians? Why is it that the racially imcompetent idiots always use Italians and Southern Euros as a vehicle to compare other "almost Whites". Whatever you do please keep my country (Spain) out of it.
This "Shapur" caricature is just a greasy mud looking for an honorary pass so he can dillute his genes with a White woman. He can keep posting his pictures of maps and his fanatsy but the fact remains that the first priority of the vast majority of WN's is to preserve Europe and the US. All this Pan-aryan shit takes a backseat to the real cause. Let the Iranians fight for their own 'purity', we have our own worries.
Velademir
July 10th, 2004, 01:17 PM
This coming out of a freaking SPainard? ahahhaha the Semtic Arabs took care of Spain being white, for over 400 fucked Spainard women, that is why some Spainard women are so pretty---mixed.
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040707/i/r3343099401.jpg
See the Afroo hair? The guy can easily pass for a Negger in America! lol
On other hand i like your suggestion, call urself white, pink, yallow or... orang I have no problem with that, as long as you don't call yourself Aryan!
Arans are Irano-Afghans, Afghans, Tajiks, Parsi ethnic of Iran(not all iranians) and chechens!
The problem is that cammel jockey shit-skins keep trying to graft themselves onto the White race. I don't give a fuck how White you think you are or your people look, make sure you keep your genes with your own ilk. We don't need some greasy raghead trying to be White. I can tell you firsthand that you will never be welcome at a White rally and rightfully so, we are only trying to save the EUROPEAN White race, not some mid-east turban heads.
http://www.cheungswingchun.com/Images/China%20Tour/Iranians.WC.jpeg
http://abel.math.harvard.edu/~abhinav/Iranians_2.jpg
http://www.metimes.com/issue98-38/metpix/released_iranians.gif
Let me make it clear just once for you "shapur", your ARE NOT my brethren, is that clear enough?
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 01:51 PM
This coming out of a freaking SPainard? ahahhaha the Semtic Arabs took care of Spain being white, for over 400 fucked Spainard women, that is why some Spainard women are so pretty---mixed.
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040707/i/r3343099401.jpg
See the Afroo hair? The guy can easily pass for a Negger in America! lol
On other hand i like your suggestion, call urself white, pink, yallow or... orang I have no problem with that, as long as you don't call yourself Aryan!
Arans are Irano-Afghans, Afghans, Tajiks, Parsi ethnic of Iran(not all iranians) and chechens!
The first thing you need to do is learn to spell because If I didn't know any better I'd think you were nothing but a NIGGER!
Second of all, Spanish people are purer than you and your kind could ever hope to be. Who the fuck is that tennis player and how do you know he's an ethnic Spaniard. Show me one pure Spaniard with untanned dark skin or Arab features. You can't! Because you're a fucking nigger and you're country is whored and manipulated by a handfull or kikes. You Russians are fucking trash no better than niggers and that's why your women sell themselves on mail order bride websites to NIGGERS and your children are sold as sex slaves to niggers and kikes. Now who's laughing eh? But then again you're not probably not even an ethnic russian just some raghead sand nigger who wishes he was White. BUAHAHAHA tough luck mohammed, You and your kind are at the same level of African niggers.
You want to talk about purity? Let's have a look at some Russians sows, shall we?
http://www.russianladies.com/Photos/10/10528-l.jpghttp://www.russianladies.com/Photos/64/64098-l.jpg
http://www.russianladies.com/Photos/72018/72018070-l.jpg
http://www.russianladies.com/Photos/86/86505-l.jpg
ALL HAIL THE PURITY OF THE RUSSIAN RACE!!
Buahahahahah I could imagine what Hitler would've done with you mongrel shitskins.
Fredrik Haerne
July 10th, 2004, 01:51 PM
Whatever floats you're boat. If Iranians, Afghanis,Jews, Niggers want to call themselves White then that's fine and dandy. They should preserve their Whiteness within THEIR OWN Group. As long as they don't think they're going to assimilate themselves into the Euro gene pool then I have no problem.
Diablo Blanco has stated he thinks Germanic countries are better off with massive non-Germanic immigration, destroying Germanic genes forever. He considers Germanics inferior because they are less nationalist than others; that's the only argument he can put forward.
Of course, the real reason is simply that he hates Germanics, which in a discussion like this one usually becomes clear sometime mid-stream. Drooling over Germanic women though, like any non-White. I suspect he isn't Romanic as he claims, but Iranian, since he keeps talking about them being White over and over. It seems all Iranians dream of being White, and call their miscegenated asses "Aryan" to give themselves that warm, fuzzy feeling.
When they are found in Britain and other Western countries it is not uncommon for them to pretend to be Italians or Spaniards. And nosejobs are all the rage in Iran; anyone who can afford one will have it, it seems, so they can look more White.
Iranians, statistics show, are the worst drivers in the world: more accidents in proportion to the population than anywhere else. Not very Aryan, itz.
Well, let them have their dreams, perhaps it will help them shape up their own corner of the world somewhat. But that doesn't mean they should be allowed in White countries of course, and it doesn't mean their nonsense should be allowed to pass quietly in a White internet forum.
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 02:13 PM
This coming out of a freaking SPainard? ahahhaha the Semtic Arabs took care of Spain being white, for over 400 fucked Spainard women, that is why some Spainard women are so pretty---mixed. !
PROOVE IT NIGGER!!! Show me one picture of a Pure ethnic "mixed" Spanish woman. You can't because you're a ragheaded piece of shit. You and your kind only occupied only SOme parts of Southern Spain and even then intermarriage with nigger moors was prohibited by the catholic church by painof excommunication, which is why modern genetic studies prove that Spaniards don't have any Arab genes.
You could only wish you're ragheaded nigger sows looked like our beatiful medditeranean women:
Spaniards
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Tammy2.jpg
http://spanishmodels.net/women/belen/02.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Anamoreno1.jpg
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/captain_corelli_s_mandolin/penelope_cruz/mandolinpre3.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Anac2.jpg
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Iranian Sand niggers
http://robocup.iust.ac.ir/Team1.jpg
http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~rjafari/personal/pics/tehran/40.jpg
http://www.american-pictures.com/gallery/denmark/Iransk.protest.1-a.jpg
http://www.daneshjooyan.org/images/16Azar81/pics/16Azar81_15.jpg
Abzug Hoffman
July 10th, 2004, 04:07 PM
What in god's name are you trying to infer about Italians? Why is it that the racially imcompetent idiots always use Italians and Southern Euros as a vehicle to compare other "almost Whites". Whatever you do please keep my country (Spain) out of it.
Multiracial afghan child. Cute!
http://www.ithacahours.com/icn.afghani.2.jpg
Anima Eternae
July 10th, 2004, 04:28 PM
Now Vivavodio, the question is: Would you accept a half-Persian half-European as white?
Only famous one I know of...
http://www.stuffmagazine.com/girls/catherine_bell/catherine_bell_l9.jpg
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diabloblanco92
July 10th, 2004, 04:33 PM
Whatever they are it's clear they're not White.
What in god's name are you trying to infer about Italians? Why is it that the racially imcompetent idiots always use Italians and Southern Euros as a vehicle to compare other "almost Whites". Whatever you do please keep my country (Spain) out of it.
This "Shapur" caricature is just a greasy mud looking for an honorary pass so he can dillute his genes with a White woman. He can keep posting his pictures of maps and his fanatsy but the fact remains that the first priority of the vast majority of WN's is to preserve Europe and the US. All this Pan-aryan shit takes a backseat to the real cause. Let the Iranians fight for their own 'purity', we have our own worries.
Some of those guys have a minor admixture, most just need a good shave. They are not the regular Iranian Army but the Mullaha's Revolutionary Guards, a large propor4tion of whom are NOT Iranians but Arabic invaders brought in by Kohemeni and his sucessors. You could show a street scene in Detriot to "prove" all or nearly all Americans are Negroes, but would this be accurate?
What kind of WN with our numbers as low as ours ignores or actively hates roughly 400 million Whites in the ME and Latin America? How does loping at least 1/3 off our already small numbers save us?
I have seen Shapurs pic and he is no Mud, I cannot and will not publish iy here because it would endanger his life and saftey and that of his family.
Germany IS NOT a free country , and free speech is NOT allowed there, Further, the traitor German government allows the agents of the Mullahas the run of their country,and he would be threatened by them as well, as would his relatives in Iran.
What you are saying makes no sense at all. If Shapur were a mud, the sad truth is he would not need to come here to find a White woman, if he were persistent enough. Why would a mud praying off White females seek racially aware ones when most sadly ARE NOT racially aware? Your argument is totally illogical. Thats like saying a male fag would cruise for other fags in a hetro strip club.
diablo
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 04:33 PM
Multiracial afghan child. Cute!
http://www.ithacahours.com/icn.afghani.2.jpg
So one in a million of your cherry picked turban heads happen to have light eyes or hair, do you really think that both of their parents, immediate grandparents, and great grandparents were White? And BTW to me that child does not look White, she has that distinct Arab look to her, I'd rather breed with a woman who has dark hair and eyes but was pure White, not some Afghan "Aryanoid".
Abzug Hoffman
July 10th, 2004, 04:36 PM
Now Vivavodio, the question is: Would you accept a half-Persian half-European as white?
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What kind of european - ashkenazi?
Anima Eternae
July 10th, 2004, 04:36 PM
I have seen Shapurs pic and he is no Mud, I cannot and will not publish iy here because it would endanger his life and saftey and that of his family
SHAPUR -> http://wtc.acmecargo.com/wtc-pics/osama-bin-laden.jpg
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Abzug Hoffman
July 10th, 2004, 04:40 PM
So one in a million of your cherry picked turban heads happen to have light eyes or hair, do you really think that both of their parents, immediate grandparents, and great grandparents were White? And BTW to me that child does not look White, she has that distinct Arab look to her, I'd rather breed with a woman who has dark hair and eyes but was pure White, not some Afghan "Aryanoid".
I SAID she was multiracial. Not Arab, you dimwit, she does not look anything like any kind of Arab. Looks Russian/Euro, but a little chinky with that flat nose and those funny eyes.
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 04:42 PM
Now Vivavodio, the question is: Would you accept a half-Persian half-European as white?
Only famous one I know of...
http://www.stuffmagazine.com/girls/catherine_bell/catherine_bell_l9.jpg
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NO. I trust my instincts and most of all my eyes. She looks semitic, and While some would say she looks plausibly Southern Italian or "Med" (which incidentally they always use as a comparison to Non-Whties) she's not White. Looking White or acting White does not a White person make. A person who I consider my brethren is someone of pure European stock, I could care less about remnant White genes scattered in India,Pakistan,Persia, Etc. Europe is the ancestral home land of the "White" race. Heck I'm even against different European subgroups intermating with each other, nevermind "pan-Aryans" or Whatever you want to call them.
Anima Eternae
July 10th, 2004, 04:46 PM
I SAID she was multiracial. Not Arab, you dimwit, she does not look anything like any kind of Arab. Looks Russian/Euro, but a little chinky with that flat nose and those funny eyes.
Yes, she looks nothing like an Arab. But that's because Afghans are not arabs at all. But I'm not really sure what they are....
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diabloblanco92
July 10th, 2004, 04:47 PM
PROOVE IT NIGGER!!! Show me one picture of a Pure ethnic "mixed" Spanish woman. You can't because you're a ragheaded piece of shit. You and your kind only occupied only SOme parts of Southern Spain and even then intermarriage with nigger moors was prohibited by the catholic church by painof excommunication, which is why modern genetic studies prove that Spaniards don't have any Arab genes.
You could only wish you're ragheaded nigger sows looked like our beatiful medditeranean women:
Spaniards
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Tammy2.jpg
http://spanishmodels.net/women/belen/02.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Anamoreno1.jpg
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/captain_corelli_s_mandolin/penelope_cruz/mandolinpre3.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Anac2.jpg
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Iranian Sand niggers
http://robocup.iust.ac.ir/Team1.jpg
http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~rjafari/personal/pics/tehran/40.jpg
http://www.american-pictures.com/gallery/denmark/Iransk.protest.1-a.jpg
http://www.daneshjooyan.org/images/16Azar81/pics/16Azar81_15.jpg
If those Spanish women were the same but had burkhas on and were identified as coming from Iran, you would call them "Muds". No matter how much you do the Nordicists bidding by attacking Non-Euro White Meds, they will never really accept you or me.
As to the Iranian pics, most are White, some are not. You cannot confuse the wearing of strange appearing garb with racial identity. Again though, the people in those pics are obvious partisians of the Mullahas, and we would be very suprised if NWs were not overrepresented in that group.
diablo
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 04:48 PM
http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~marclevy/persians.jpg
This is the typical Persian Phenotype. I don't care what anyone says, despite popular myths there are few to none Southern Euros who even remotely resemble these types.
One distinctive thing about Persians is that they tend to have thick eyebrows and soot-black eyes, which very very few Europeans have.
Velademir
July 10th, 2004, 04:59 PM
Listen up Negroied Spanish bitch,
the guy is a Spanish tennis player.
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040707/i/r3343099401.jpg
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040710/i/r3981966083.jpg
Spain's BMW Williams driver Marc Gene hugs his girlfriend after qualifying for the British Grand Prix at the Silverstone race track in Northamptonshire, central England, July 10, 2004. The Williams test driver is replacing the team's injured driver Ralf Schumacher for the British Grand Prix which takes place at Silverstone on July 11. REUTERS/Darren Staples
Can you deny that Arabs ruled your sorry ass for over 400 years? ha?
and here comes the final neil in your ass. lol nook noook
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040703/capt.mad80207031937.spain_prince_felipe_mad802.jpg
Spain's Crown Prince Felipe arrives at the Royal Nautical Club in Valencia, Spain, Saturday July 3, 2004. The Prince is participating in the sixth edition of the Queen Sofia Sailing Trophy. (AP Photo/EFE/Kai Forsterling)
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040627/capt.ny16006272023.torch_relay_ny160.jpg
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040627/capt.mad80406271905.spain_olympic_torch_mad804.jpg
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040627/capt.mad80506271812.spain_olympic_torch_mad805.jpg
Former five-time Tour of France cycling race winner Miguel Indurain, foreground, pedals holding the Olympic torch in Barcelona, Spain, Sunday, June 27, 2004. The Olympic flame passed through Madrid and Barcelona on June 27, ahead of the August games in Athens. (AP Photo/EFE, Alberto Estevez)
YOU ALL LOOK ARAB TO ME!!! POTO MODAREE!! AHahahah
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040630/capt.sge.jik96.300604175205.photo00.default-278x370.jpg
Around a thousand pieces of tableware and silverware specially made in Denmark for Queen Rania of Jordan have been stolen in Copenhagen according to police(AFP/File/Toru Yamanaka)
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040702/capt.sge.kbw71.020704201058.photo00.default-259x338.jpg
Jordan's King Abdullah II declared 'If the Iraqis ask us for help directly it will be very difficult for us to say no'(AFP/HO/File)
The above two Arabs look more white to me then the Spanish punks i posted the pic!
The first thing you need to do is learn to spell because If I didn't know any better I'd think you were nothing but a NIGGER!
Second of all, Spanish people are purer than you and your kind could ever hope to be. Who the fuck is that tennis player and how do you know he's an ethnic Spaniard. Show me one pure Spaniard with untanned dark skin or Arab features. You can't! Because you're a fucking nigger and you're country is whored and manipulated by a handfull or kikes. You Russians are fucking trash no better than niggers and that's why your women sell themselves on mail order bride websites to NIGGERS and your children are sold as sex slaves to niggers and kikes. Now who's laughing eh? But then again you're not probably not even an ethnic russian just some raghead sand nigger who wishes he was White. BUAHAHAHA tough luck mohammed, You and your kind are at the same level of African niggers.
You want to talk about purity? Let's have a look at some Russians sows, shall we?
http://www.russianladies.com/Photos/10/10528-l.jpghttp://www.russianladies.com/Photos/64/64098-l.jpg
http://www.russianladies.com/Photos/72018/72018070-l.jpg
http://www.russianladies.com/Photos/86/86505-l.jpg
ALL HAIL THE PURITY OF THE RUSSIAN RACE!!
Buahahahahah I could imagine what Hitler would've done with you mongrel shitskins.
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 05:00 PM
If those Spanish women were the same but had burkhas on and were identified as coming from Iran, you would call them "Muds". No matter how much you do the Nordicists bidding by attacking Non-Euro White Meds, they will never really accept you or me.
As to the Iranian pics, most are White, some are not. You cannot confuse the wearing of strange appearing garb with racial identity. Again though, the people in those pics are obvious partisians of the Mullahas, and we would be very suprised if NWs were not overrepresented in that group.
diablo
I'm not letting attire tell me what's obvious even without them. Their skin is much too dark to even be considered "meds", never mind their black eyes, and semi-prominent cheek bones. And do Iranians even consider themselves "White"? Just what kind of racial resgregation do these supposed Whites practice? Not much from what the typical Iranian looks like, at least those from these pics.
Nordblod
July 10th, 2004, 05:02 PM
http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~marclevy/persians.jpg
This is the typical Persian Phenotype. I don't care what anyone says, despite popular myths there are few to none Southern Euros who even remotely resemble these types.
One distinctive thing about Persians is that they tend to have thick eyebrows and soot-black eyes, which very very few Europeans have.
And the fact that they generally exhibit more palatable traits than do the Arabs does in no shape, form or fashion make them acceptable for breeding with people of European extraction. They can help us get rid of der ewige, but that's as far as we should take it. Sure, race is a continuum. Let's try to keep it that way, shall we?
Anima Eternae
July 10th, 2004, 05:03 PM
What kind of european - ashkenazi?
White european.
Can you deny that Arabs ruled your sorry ass for over 400 years? ha?
Because the Moors occupied Spain for almost eight centuries, it is thought that they, along with African slaves, had a significant impact on the racial make-up of the country. Despite much speculation and hyperbole, anthropology actually finds Spaniards to be of pre-historic origin and quite distinct from the contemporary Mediterraneans of North Africa and the Middle East. Similarly, genetic research reveals the Moorish contribution to have been small, and the absorption of blacks even smaller.
http://www.angeltowns.com/members/racialreal/spaniards.html
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Abzug Hoffman
July 10th, 2004, 05:04 PM
http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~marclevy/persians.jpg
This is the typical Persian Phenotype. I don't care what anyone says, despite popular myths there are few to none Southern Euros who even remotely resemble these types.
One distinctive thing about persons is that they tend to have thick eyebrows and soot-black eyes, which very very few Europeans have.
Right. What mixed race people don't seem to understand, in traditional white culture -
1. Very dark eyes = you could have nig blood. This is why some Italians get in trouble, they set off the alarm system.
2. A white person's parents, grandparents and even great grandparents, if known, must all pass the same test - are they white? Do they look white? A person who looks white but does not have white parents is not white, they are half breed at best.
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 05:14 PM
Listen up Negroied Spanish bitch,
the guy is a Spanish tennis player.
[IMG]!
Any doubt that you're an ignorant Turban headed nigger has completely been erased.
Let's see I'll show everyone just what a NIGGER you are, picture by picture:
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040707/i/r3343099401.jpg
First off if he is an ethnic Spaniard as you say, even though you've shown no proof, he doesn't seem to display any NW features. His hair is curly but it is not wooly, in fact curly hair is about the mean average for White people, stick straight hair is more of a mongoloid trait, sand nigger.
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040710/i/r3981966083.jpg
Nice clear picture you picked, even still from this far away distance what prminent NW trait does he display? NONE, you Arab/negroid shitskin.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040703/capt.mad80207031937.spain_prince_felipe_mad802.jpg
Just what looks "Arab" about him? The same beard that you brown shit colored cammle jockeys are known for? Here's what he looks like without it:
http://www.casareal.es/casareal/images/ppebg01g.jpg
You lose again, SAND NIGGER!!!!
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040627/capt.ny16006272023.torch_relay_ny160.jpg
An obvious White woman with a deep tan, you're really good at this arent you?
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040627/capt.mad80406271905.spain_olympic_torch_mad804.jpg
An obvious White man with CURLY hair, not wooly negroid hair like your kind tend to have.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040627/capt.mad80506271812.spain_olympic_torch_mad805.jpg
YAWN a curly haired White man with a deep tan, good job nigger!
Velademir
July 10th, 2004, 05:28 PM
Multiracial afghan child. Cute!
http://www.ithacahours.com/icn.afghani.2.jpg
MultiRacial? bewaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bonehead she looks typical Irano-Afghan to me!
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/mar/girl/thennow.jpg
http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/ekawasa/JohnPattenGraphics/People/Original/pe21.JPG
http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/ekawasa/JohnPattenGraphics/Children/Original/ch42.JPG
THEY ALL LOOK ARE PURE IRANO-AFGHAN SUBGROUP OF ARYAN RACE NOT MULTIRACIAL AS YOU CLAIM THEM TO BE!!!!
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 05:30 PM
I am so glad you posted these two gems:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040630/capt.sge.jik96.300604175205.photo00.default-278x370.jpg
Notice the soot-BLACK eyes and the obviously dyed hair(black roots). Just another Arab bitch.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040702/capt.sge.kbw71.020704201058.photo00.default-259x338.jpg
LOL did you fail to see his NEGROID nose? You immediately call him White because he had blue eyes or light skin? I can show you a host of mulattos with such features, maybe you can graft them onto your race so you can salvage whatever White genes they might have for your sand nigger population.
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Let's get back to the pictures, shall we?
Sand niggers:
http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1034561551064_2002/10/23/iraqis.jpg
http://www.metimes.com/2K3/issue2003-16/issue_metpix/iraqis_protest_against.jpg
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2003/04/16/3nassiriya.jpg
http://www.msnbc.com/news/1892353.jpg
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Spaniards
http://img64.photobucket.com/albums/v195/aryanpride/spaniards6.jpg
http://img64.photobucket.com/albums/v195/aryanpride/spaniards2.jpg
http://img64.photobucket.com/albums/v195/aryanpride/spaniards4.jpg
http://img64.photobucket.com/albums/v195/aryanpride/spaniards5.jpg
See the difference, sand nigger?
Velademir
July 10th, 2004, 05:33 PM
Any doubt that you're an ignorant Turban headed nigger has completely been erased.
Let's see I'll show everyone just what a NIGGER you are, picture by picture:
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040707/i/r3343099401.jpg
First off if he is an ethnic Spaniard as you say, even though you've shown no proof, he doesn't seem to display any NW features. His hair is curly but it is not wooly, in fact curly hair is about the mean average for White people, stick straight hair is more of a mongoloid trait, sand nigger.
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040710/i/r3981966083.jpg
Nice clear picture you picked, even still from this far away distance what prminent NW trait does he display? NONE, you Arab/negroid shitskin.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040703/capt.mad80207031937.spain_prince_felipe_mad802.jpg
Just what looks "Arab" about him? The same beard that you brown shit colored cammle jockeys are known for? Here's what he looks like without it:
http://www.casareal.es/casareal/images/ppebg01g.jpg
You lose again, SAND NIGGER!!!!
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040627/capt.ny16006272023.torch_relay_ny160.jpg
An obvious White woman with a deep tan, you're really good at this arent you?
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040627/capt.mad80406271905.spain_olympic_torch_mad804.jpg
An obvious White man with CURLY hair, not wooly negroid hair like your kind tend to have.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040627/capt.mad80506271812.spain_olympic_torch_mad805.jpg
YAWN a curly haired White man with a deep tan, good job nigger!
Suffering from inferiorty complex? ha? a curly haired "white" man ahahahahah with deep tan? ahahah shit face why don't u just stay Afro hair! ahahahah
Do you honestly think that Arabs who ruled your country for over 400 years have not fucked your mom and sis? come on now. Like it or not today's Spanish people are Partly Semtic Arabs and that is why they have Afro hair and fetures! Just say it your a Negger bitch ahahahah on other hand I am half Russian(Salvic) and half Tajikistanis Tajik that makes me Pure Aryan!
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 05:38 PM
[QUOTE=Velademir]MultiRacial? bewaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bonehead she looks typical Irano-Afghan to me!
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/mar/girl/thennow.jpg
Keep Dreaming nigger, that's your ilk not mine, And why did you post a small picture to obscure her NW features?
http://iona.ghandchi.com/AfghanGirl/_1870382_afghan_girl300.jpg
http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/ekawasa/JohnPattenGraphics/People/Original/pe21.JPG
BUAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!! Have a look at them beady BLACK nigger eyes. You're only making yourself look stupid here nigger. You should've quit after your first post.
http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/ekawasa/JohnPattenGraphics/Children/Original/ch42.JPG
One light semite against a group of fecal colored ones, what's your point?
Velademir
July 10th, 2004, 05:44 PM
[http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040707/i/r3343099401.jpg
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040627/capt.mad80406271905.spain_olympic_torch_mad804.jpg
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040627/capt.mad80506271812.spain_olympic_torch_mad805.jpg http://www.casareal.es/casareal/images/ppebg01g.jpg
What these people have in common?
Hello the Afro (Curly hair)! This clearly shows the Semtic influnce on Spanish people!
http://sg.yimg.com/xp/afp/20040621/2010888809.jpg
Priminste of Spain, he surly looks Arab to me! ahahahah
Velademir
July 10th, 2004, 05:47 PM
Potoooo Maricooon(i know spanish too fagget)
The photos was to prove that Afghans are not multifacial but pure Irano-Afghan race type! Which in itself is part of Aran race! Like it or not, you as Spanish punk or Europan can NEVER BE ARYAN. Call youself white, pink or yallow but NOT ARYAN since you are NOT Aryan you have more in common with Arabs and Jews then with Aryans-----Persian, Afghans, Tajiks, and Chechens!
[QUOTE=Velademir]MultiRacial? bewaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bonehead she looks typical Irano-Afghan to me!
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/mar/girl/thennow.jpg
Keep Dreaming nigger, that's your ilk not mine, And why did you post a small picture to obscure her NW features?
http://iona.ghandchi.com/AfghanGirl/_1870382_afghan_girl300.jpg
http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/ekawasa/JohnPattenGraphics/People/Original/pe21.JPG
BUAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!! Have a look at them beady BLACK nigger eyes. You're only making yourself look stupid here nigger. You should've quit after your first post.
http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/ekawasa/JohnPattenGraphics/Children/Original/ch42.JPG
One light semite against a group of fecal colored ones, what's your point?
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 05:48 PM
Suffering from inferiorty complex? ha? a curly haired "white" man ahahahahah with deep tan? ahahah shit face why don't u just stay Afro hair! ahahahah
Do you honestly think that Arabs who ruled your country for over 400 years have not fucked your mom and sis? come on now. Like it or not today's Spanish people are Partly Semtic Arabs and that is why they have Afro hair and fetures! QUOTE]
There's not one pure Spaniard you can show me that has Arab features, much less "Afro" hair which is a sub-saharan negroid feature. Not even the Moors-- who MIGHT have had some negroe influence-- had "Afro" hair, so where Spanish people would get such a feature from? I don't know.
[QUOTE]Just say it your a Negger bitch ahahahah on other hand I am half Russian(Salvic) and half Tajikistanis Tajik that makes me Pure Aryan!
Was there ever any doubt? LOL this is a simple case of a filthy Nigger turban head who wishes he was White so he wan'ts an honorary pass to be our brethren.
Here's what you get when you do a google picture search for "Tajikistanis Tajik":
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Tajikistan+Tajik+&spell=1
http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/x0736m/rep2/img/TAJIK.jpg
http://edition.cnn.com/2000/ASIANOW/central/09/26/tajikistan.drought/story.tajik.hunger.jpg
http://weecheng.com/silk/tajik/museumladies.gif
http://www.cqj.dk/Fotos/tajik-money.jpg
http://www.cqj.dk/Fotos/tajik-kvinde.jpg
http://www.indiayellowpages.com/zoroastrian/im/tajikistan.gif
What say you now sand nigger? You still think you're White? Post a picture of yourself you cammel jockey shitskin. Should we play along and let him have his fantasy?
YOu know, I think the person to blame for sand niggers like this having their fantasies is that moron "diabloblanco14", it's thanks to him that you have these sand niggers coming to this forum as a haven because they think they'll be accepted as White. Yeah Vledemir were sure you're White, Just make sure you keep your nigger Whiteness amongst your own kind.
Velademir
July 10th, 2004, 05:55 PM
I just did, notice the Hair of your princes? ha? It is called Afrooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Mind you Tajikistan is a multi-ethnic country, there are Turks, Mongol and Tajiks. Tajiks are pure Aryan, also i never said i was some "white" i don't even like the word "white since personal i beleive only Chinz people are really "white" but they are called Yallow. On other hand I am pure Aryan, you read it do you know what is Aryan? hello? Aryan is something you Negger Spanish punks could never bee! No europans is Aryan you need to get this in your sorry little head, you guys didn't even knew about Aryan people before 19 century! You are indeed a sorry Potto Spanish fuck!
Why don't you answer my question? Tell me do you honestly think that Arabs did not fucked any Spanish women after rulling them for over 400 years? Can u deny this shit head? ha? You are Partly Arab so get over it punk!
Was there ever any doubt? LOL this is a simple case of a filthy Nigger turban head who wishes he was White so he wan'ts an honorary pass to be our brethren.
Here's what you get when you do a google picture search for "Tajikistanis Tajik":
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Tajikistan+Tajik+&spell=1
[.
Velademir
July 10th, 2004, 06:05 PM
From the link this Spanish Potoo Maricoon provided
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Tajikistan+Tajik+&spell=1
Tajik women
http://cenasia-fiction.netfirms.com/images/gallery/tajikmom3.jpg
http://tajikistan.tajnet.com/state/image/rakhmonov.jpg
http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/images/ibc_tajikistan2.jpg
http://cenasia-fiction.netfirms.com/images/gallery/tajdress3.jpg
Was there .
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 06:15 PM
I just did, notice the Hair of your princes? ha? It is called Afrooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/hrhfelipeofspain//Yahoo!+Photo+Album/felipe+letizia+frederik+wedding+c.jpg?grykc8ABD5to5UXD
Just how is that afro hair?
I think our sand nigger friend has worn out his welcome here, he has to go read his Quran now so I'll celebrate your departure with a few more of your "Aryans":
http://www.hermes-press.com/afghans.jpg
http://www.demcgaffey.com/images/Kabul/afghan3.jpg
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2002/06/12/Fahim.jpg
Vivaodio
July 10th, 2004, 06:25 PM
No europans is Aryan you need to get this in your sorry little head, you guys didn't even knew about Aryan people before 19 century!
Where the hell are the mods here? Here's what you get when you have an insecure sand nigger and the preachings of diabloblanco, every fucking cammel jockey starts thinking he's White.
Abzug Hoffman
July 10th, 2004, 10:31 PM
Where the hell are the mods here? Here's what you get when you have an insecure sand nigger and the preachings of diabloblanco, every fucking cammel jockey starts thinking he's White.
Language changes over time. Aryan is a nice short word in common use for many decades to mean white European. There is no reason to change it, just because some jew or muslim keeps belly aching.
Anima Eternae
July 10th, 2004, 10:35 PM
Well, Cyrus did name Persia the "Homeland of the Aryans". Some might not consider Persians to be white, but they sure aren't as hell arabs. I hear it's something they take very offensively in Iran, if you call them arabs.
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ArmSla
July 11th, 2004, 12:14 AM
http://www.demcgaffey.com/images/Kabul/afghan3.jpg \
This guy looks white to me. Sand-niggers is a reference to Arabs. Persians have nothing to do with Arabs.
Anima Eternae
July 11th, 2004, 12:41 AM
Looks can be deceiving. I get to lay claim to this lovely lady. White she is not.
http://hosting.picgoo.com/uploads7/nina1.jpg
http://hosting.picgoo.com/uploads7/nina2.jpg
..oh yeah...
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Intrepid
July 11th, 2004, 04:01 AM
http://www.demcgaffey.com/images/Kabul/afghan3.jpg
Posted by ArmSla
This guy looks white to me.
John Bull was beat at Waterloo!
They'll swear to that in France.
-Wintrop Mackworth Praed
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 11:58 AM
http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~marclevy/persians.jpg
This is the typical Persian Phenotype. I don't care what anyone says, despite popular myths there are few to none Southern Euros who even remotely resemble these types.
One distinctive thing about Persians is that they tend to have thick eyebrows and soot-black eyes, which very very few Europeans have.
Since when are thick eyebrows a non-White trait? They are a White trait! How many Blacks and East Asians have thick eyebrows???Whites can have any color eyes including black. Most Iranians have brown eyes, and about 20% have green, blue, etc. I see nothing wrong with those guys in that pic, the one on the left especially is a type you would even see in Northern Europe let alone Southern Europe
diablo
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 12:01 PM
Looks can be deceiving. I get to lay claim to this lovely lady. White she is not.
http://hosting.picgoo.com/uploads7/nina1.jpg
http://hosting.picgoo.com/uploads7/nina2.jpg
..oh yeah...
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You decieve yourself. Take away her White genes and what would she be?
diablo
Fredrik Haerne
July 11th, 2004, 12:04 PM
Now that's a fine-looking Aryan gentleman right there! Crisp and smart.
http://www.casareal.es/casareal/images/ppebg01g.jpg
About Iranians, I've seen many, and White they ain't. We all know that. When you have to shave the area between your eyelids and your eyebrows, you're not White. :)
Diablo, satisfy my curiosity: if you got to choose, would you have a world populated entirely by Germanic, blue-eyed, blonde Whites, or a world populated entirely by Iranians?
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 12:09 PM
I SAID she was multiracial. Not Arab, you dimwit, she does not look anything like any kind of Arab. Looks Russian/Euro, but a little chinky with that flat nose and those funny eyes.
Multiracial???? She friggin looks like she just stepped off a streetcorner in Dublin! Her eye are perfectly round and all kids that age have flat noses.
diablo
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 12:25 PM
Now that's a fine-looking Aryan gentleman right there! Crisp and smart.
http://www.casareal.es/casareal/images/ppebg01g.jpg
About Iranians, I've seen many, and White they ain't. We all know that. When you have to shave the area between your eyelids and your eyebrows, you're not White. :)
Diablo, satisfy my curiosity: if you got to choose, would you have a world populated entirely by Germanic, blue-eyed, blonde Whites, or a world populated entirely by Iranians?
I really would not care as long as it was populated entirely by Whites. I might lean toward Iranians (and by this I mean true Iranians,not Dravid or Mongol mongrels) if only for 2 reasons. First, you would have some difference in hair and eye color among Iranians. I think blue-eyed blonde women are incredible, but I would rather have a world that was all White but with a variation in hair and eye color. Secondly Iranians seem more racist, agressive and nationalistic than present day Germans. However this is not really fair because I do not believe that Nordics are any less racist by nature than Iranians or other Whites, they have just been more exposed to brainwashing than many other Whites. I have complete faith in the unsullied racial instincts of both Iranians and blue-eyed blonde Germans.
Luckily, we do not have to choose between the 2, we can have both.
But it really in a sense would not matter, because both the Iranians and Germans have the necessary genes for all different hair and eye colors. So once the world was all White, we could simply re-diversify hair and eye color by genetic engineering.
diablo
Anima Eternae
July 11th, 2004, 01:31 PM
You decieve yourself. Take away her White genes and what would she be?
She'd probably be a pretty asian girl. You have to understand looks can be subjective, and biological in basis. In generally, people tend to be biologically attracted to those who share their genetic makeup the most.
Also, my point was that my type can vary greatly in appearance (which is a good thing, in my opinion). As long as there is discernable asian and white in each person, I find them to be the most attractive. Genes and even race aren't still-pegged, which is why I love the diversity within my "race". My personal fave is the last one.
http://hosting.picgoo.com/uploads7/bbn.jpg
http://hosting.picgoo.com/uploads7/ong.jpg
http://hosting.picgoo.com/uploads7/shannyn.jpg
Okay, I realize you might not give a shit, but I'm fluffing myself up here, because I haven't seen one of my kind in almost a month. Imagine if you had to go a month without seeing any whites, hmm?
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Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 02:23 PM
Since when are thick eyebrows a non-White trait? They are a White trait! How many Blacks and East Asians have thick eyebrows???Whites can have any color eyes including black. Most Iranians have brown eyes, and about 20% have green, blue, etc. I see nothing wrong with those guys in that pic, the one on the left especially is a type you would even see in Northern Europe let alone Southern Europe
diablo
Nope that's not true. I'll grant you the one about the eyebrows maybe I was mistaking, however soot-BLACK eyes are NOT a White trait. Like I said before very very few White people have black eyes as dark as you'll find on negroids. If you want to include these swarthy characters as part of your movement go right ahead, but refrain from including them into the White European race and somehow linking them to Euro meds. Those are NOT my brethren and I would rather terminate my bloodline before breeding with one of those greasy shitskins. You're doing this "movement" a lot more harm than good by salvaging for White genes amongst these ragheads and such.
Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 02:34 PM
This diabloblanco caricature is a real riot! Just when the hell did he start including these ragheads and mideastern greasebags as part of the White race? This is cynical, I've never in my life heard anyone claim these people as White, just WTF is his agenda here?
http://www.teammelli.com/Gallery/pics/teams/TM%2096.jpg
In my how many ways do we have to tell you that these fucking greasebags are NOT White?
Fredrik Haerne
July 11th, 2004, 05:06 PM
Well, it's an easy question Diablo, and I'll ask it again: what would you prefer, a world of White Germanics or a world of Iranian scum?
And your standard accusation against Germanics, that we are less nationalist and aggressive, doesn't mean jack here, since in this hypothetical example there's no other race to have to protect yourself against. So now maybe you can tell us if there are any other reasons for your contempt for Germanics? And I wonder, are you Iranian yourself?
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 07:43 PM
She'd probably be a pretty asian girl. You have to understand looks can be subjective, and biological in basis. In generally, people tend to be biologically attracted to those who share their genetic makeup the most.
Also, my point was that my type can vary greatly in appearance (which is a good thing, in my opinion). As long as there is discernable asian and white in each person, I find them to be the most attractive. Genes and even race aren't still-pegged, which is why I love the diversity within my "race". My personal fave is the last one.
http://www.filenote.com/users/uploads/jaymee.jpg
http://www.filenote.com/users/uploads/bba.jpg
http://www.filenote.com/users/uploads/shannyn.jpg
Okay, I realize you might not give a shit, but I'm fluffing myself up here, because I haven't seen one of my kind in almost a month. Imagine if you had to go a month without seeing any whites, hmm?
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Understood, I have been a bit hard on you, as you seem like a decent enough chap who is afterall given your background doing the most virtious thing possible. Hope you find your HAPA dreamgirl.
I don't have a thing against HAPAs or even most East Asians. My only problem is that we cannot mix without destroying each others identity.
diablo
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 07:54 PM
Well, it's an easy question Diablo, and I'll ask it again: what would you prefer, a world of White Germanics or a world of Iranian scum?
And your standard accusation against Germanics, that we are less nationalist and aggressive, doesn't mean jack here, since in this hypothetical example there's no other race to have to protect yourself against. So now maybe you can tell us if there are any other reasons for your contempt for Germanics? And I wonder, are you Iranian yourself?
Again, how could I hate Germans when at least 35-40% of my ancestry is Germanic? Hell my surname is Germanic. I just dont look anything like it anymore than my brothers look Med or identify with it
Am I Iranian, yes and if you are German,(unless ytou are a pure Alantid) or a Euro Aryan, so are you. But my ancstors left Iran thousands of years ago, not 20-30 years ago like my Gfs ancestors.
I am not really going to answer the question, I dont want either to disappear. I dont want my lats dads Fatherland to disappear, and I dont want my loves homeland to die either. I am connected to both in a thousand different ways, and love both and ALL the other White nations. Why is that so hard to understand?
diablo
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 07:58 PM
This diabloblanco caricature is a real riot! Just when the hell did he start including these ragheads and mideastern greasebags as part of the White race? This is cynical, I've never in my life heard anyone claim these people as White, just WTF is his agenda here?
http://www.teammelli.com/Gallery/pics/teams/TM%2096.jpg
In my how many ways do we have to tell you that these fucking greasebags are NOT White?
Some there are White, some are borderline due to Dravid influences, some are White but butt fucking ugly.Is the team as a whole a good example of the best in Iranian bloodlines? No. Ugly Nords get a free pass, but ugly Meds are always Non-White.
diablo
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 08:06 PM
How are these women different freom the Spainards that were posted?
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/new/girls-sep-2003/images/scan0015_jpg.jpg
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/mashin.jpg
This ones a babe!
http://www.bia2.com/picture/hiddencam8/0071.jpg
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/new/original/10.jpg
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/manioneda-4.jpg
diablo
Abzug Hoffman
July 11th, 2004, 08:58 PM
How are these women different freom the Spainards that were posted?
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/new/girls-sep-2003/images/scan0015_jpg.jpg
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/mashin.jpg
This ones a babe!
http://www.bia2.com/picture/hiddencam8/0071.jpg
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/new/original/10.jpg
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/manioneda-4.jpg
diablo
They look jewish.
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 09:15 PM
They look jewish.
Last resort when you lost an argument. If those girls look Jewish, so does Monica Bellucci....IN CASE OF EMERGENCY BREAK GLASS AND EXTRACT JEW!
LOL
diablo
Anima Eternae
July 11th, 2004, 09:31 PM
http://hosting.picgoo.com/uploads7/bbn.jpg
http://hosting.picgoo.com/uploads7/ong.jpg
http://hosting.picgoo.com/uploads7/shannyn.jpg
Understood, I have been a bit hard on you, as you seem like a decent enough chap who is afterall given your background doing the most virtious thing possible. Hope you find your HAPA dreamgirl.
I don't have a thing against HAPAs or even most East Asians. My only problem is that we cannot mix without destroying each others identity.
diablo
I really don't even like the world hapa, because a half-negro half-asian is "hapa". I use Eurasian because it denotes people of white and asian descent.
Your understanding is appreciated, as I can go a bit overboard with pictures, seeing how they're the only people of my kind. I want us to unify so we can keep to ourselves (and you to your own). Too many of my kind try just rejoin their asian or white genepools. Being 0.3% drives me nuts. Can you possibly imagine how hard it is to preach my ethnic goals, not to mention get a date the same race as me?
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diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 09:59 PM
I really don't even like the world hapa, because a half-negro half-asian is "hapa". I use Eurasian because it denotes people of white and asian descent.
Your understanding is appreciated, as I can go a bit overboard with pictures, seeing how they're the only people of my kind. I want us to unify so we can keep to ourselves (and you to your own). Too many of my kind try just rejoin their asian or white genepools. Being 0.3% drives me nuts. Can you possibly imagine how hard it is to preach my ethnic goals, not to mention get a date the same race as me?
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It must be a bitch and I understand your problem. It is GREAT to be White, having a dating pool that in the Old World alone stretches from Iceland to Iran is really fantastic.
At least half seriously, the closest place to a Eurasian country would be Turkmenistan, but I doubt you would dig living in a Moslem country. That and my WN Iranian friends consider it part of greater Iran (Which it was before the Mongol invasions) and want it back and re-Aryanized.
Maybe we can clean up Haiti and give it to you.It was actually the richest colony in history under the French.Ill bet it would do very well as a Eurasian homeland. Of course you would have to clean up the ecological mess and deforestation the Cocos left.
Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 10:03 PM
How are these women different freom the Spainards that were posted?
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/new/girls-sep-2003/images/scan0015_jpg.jpg
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/mashin.jpg
This ones a babe!
http://www.bia2.com/picture/hiddencam8/0071.jpg
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/new/original/10.jpg
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/manioneda-4.jpg
diablo
I'll tell you how, the Spaniards look and ARE White, and those shitskins don't look and AREN't White. Why is that so hard to understand? The "White" race came to be in Europe, I could pick any of those people out easily in a crowd of sicilians or any of the other Swarthy bastards you find in Southern Italy.
However don't compare those creatures to Spaniards just to give your argument more leverage. Those people in no way resemble Spanish people and they're traits are very distinct. Jet black hair amongst Spaniards only occurs in about 25% of the population unlike these fucking muds, and soot Black eyes are almost unheard of in Spain, with these Iranians it seems to be 9 out of 10.
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/new/girls-sep-2003/images/scan0015_jpg.jpg
The one on the left looks like a pure Jew with beady black eyes and the one on the right looks swarthy enough to be an Indian from Chiapas Mexico.
http://www.bia2.com/picture/hiddencam8/0071.jpg
You sure can pick 'em. That Swarthy little woman would get picked off in a second if there was a race war and skin was your uniform.
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/new/original/10.jpg
Again, two Jews and a Mexican looking mud.
Now, since I'm sure you've weeded out dozens of picks to find a couple of Iranian muds with some White semblance I'll pick up where you left off.
http://studyrussian.com/seidenstrasse/pic/hassan_ahmat_car.jpg
http://www.thedaf.com/news/Iranian-musical-concert-6-8%20poster.jpg
http://www.eworldsingles.com/homepages/Ir/IP/images/pic2.jpg
LOL that's diablo and his girlfriend basking in their joy of being muds.
http://www.cfar.umd.edu/~alizand/photogallery/nowruz.jpg
http://www.teammelli.com/Gallery/pics/teams/Team%20LG%20cup2000.jpg
http://www.payvand.com/news/03/sep/iran-jordan1.jpg
Anima Eternae
July 11th, 2004, 10:06 PM
It must be a bitch and I understand your problem. It is GREAT to be White, having a dating pool that in the Old World alone stretches from Iceland to Iran is really fantastic.
At least half seriously, the closest place to a Eurasian country would be Turkmenistan, but I doubt you would dig living in a Moslem country. That and my WN Iranian friends consider it part of greater Iran (Which it was before the Mongol invasions) and want it back and re-Aryanized.
Maybe we can clean up Haiti and give it to you.It was actually the richest colony in history under the French.Ill bet it would do very well as a Eurasian homeland. Of course you would have to clean up the ecological mess and deforestation the Cocos left.
Yeah I don't give a shit where it is, except for maybe Death Valley. I know my people are smart and intelligent (studies on eurasians are rare, but quite informative, or hell, look at our parent races). Only the most idiotic people live among great resources and scratch out a meager living (Africa, Carribean). Right now, I don't even care about nationalism. I just want geographic/communal unity. Of course, it's a pipe dream. My only choice is to support ethnic nationalists of other races (asians in asia, whites in the west).
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Kamangir42
July 11th, 2004, 10:14 PM
Pardon the long post.
I am an Iranian. I am neither a WN nor do I wish to be “white” (however you wish to define it) or grouped with Europeans. Yet I have been mistaken as a native by natives while travelling in Spain, Italy and Greece. I have also been mistaken for a Lebanese, a Turk and an Armenian. When I say that I am Iranian, those who have mistaken me for their countryman often reply: “Of course I knew you were an Iranian, you could not be from my country!” How sad.
I am not a Turk or a Semite (there isn’t even a Semitic race, it’s a language group). No true Iranian is. You could not provide any proof that I am. We Iranians call ourselves Aryans but this does not mean we class ourselves as “white” or European. Far from it. We are proud of our distinct, nay unique, history. Iranians wrote that they were Aryan 3000 years ago and before Europe even existed.
I am also shocked at the vile and offensive language used by some posters. While you may not think that Iranians are your kin (I would not disagree) you should post in a civilised manner. I have been informed that the two most important things for WNs are folk and honour. I do not see much honour in such rudeness. Indeed, it reminds me of how Turks behave and, I gather, resembles how WNs often describe the behaviour of certain non-white groups.
As to the Spanish guy, you should note that parts of Iran were ruled by the Arab scum for a much briefer period than they ruled parts of Spain. The Iranian Buyid dynasty chucked the Arabs out of Iran and took over the Abbassid Caliphate in the tenth century, much earlier than they were thankfully ejected from Spain. Before then there were often Iranian insurrections against the Arabs (under Babak Khoramdin for instance) in which independence was reasserted and the Arabs were massacred. Now I ask you: if parts of Iran were ruled by the Arabs for much less than they ruled parts of Spain, then how come Iranians mixed with them but Spaniards did not? I think the answer is that the Spaniards and Iranians as racially aware people and mixing only very rarely took place. Iranians are a racially aware people and prize pale skin and light coloured hair and eyes. There is quite a famous Persian song, for example, sung supposedly by a girl being pursued by a suitor which is called “You’re black, I don’t want you”! As for the notion that Islam encourages race mixing, this may be true. But Iranians disregard this as a proud people who passionately hate Turks and Arabs (we have a small community of black former slaves who are shunned by real Iranians).
The notion that Afghans are more “European” (I guess this means that they have a higher proportion of light coloured hair and eyes and paler skin) than Iranians is frankly laughable (not that pure Tajiks would not be counted as brother Iranians). Afghan refugees in Iran are thought of as dark. Besides, a significant proportion of Iranians have pale skin and light coloured hair and eyes. In my own family, my father has green eyes, my maternal grandfather has light brown hair and blue/grey eyes, my paternal grandmother had brown hair, my uncle has light brown hair and green eyes, one of my aunts has brown hair while another had green eyes and red hair, of my great aunts three have brown hair (of those one has green eyes) and one had red hair and green eyes, one of my mother’s cousins has light brown hair and green eyes and another has blond hair and blue eyes. I could go on for ages and this is just my family. Personally I have black hair and brown eyes. Many members of my family have pale skin while others are darker (though none could ever be mistaken for an Indian). It is not uncommon for a sibling to be darker than their brother or sister. For instance, my mother’s cousin with blond hair has two children: one is pale as any European I have ever seen and one looks Mediterranean.
Iranians have always been like this. Perhaps we are a little darker than Europeans (though many Iranians could fit into Europe without being noticed) but this is not surprising given the extreme heat in the country (pretty much 40-50˚C throughout much of the country in summer) and the sun is very ferocious. After so many centuries we have adapted to the environment (although we are nowhere near as dark as true Arabs and Indians). I fail to see how this makes Iranian “scum”. Iranians have been like this since the days of Cyrus and Darius. You think the Persian Empire was built by “scum”?
As for Iranians being ragheads, I suggest that you stop being so ignorant. Iranians wear Western clothing not Arab tribal dress. Not that I have anything against wearing “rags”. In such a harsh climate the choice is often to wear “rags” or die while roaming around under the sun. To use “raghead” as an insult is like calling the British “raincoat wearers”! Some Iranians still wear tribal dress but this is often colourful and similar to Eastern European or Balkan traditional attire. Indeed, it might surprise you to know that Iranians invented the tunic and trousers while the Greeks and Romans were walking around in togas and whatnot.
Iranians are a proud people. In the past, we often allied and fought with Europe against the savage Turks. The true Iranians living in Europe and the US are not a threat to you. Most are waiting for things to change in the motherland so that they can go back. Their numbers are not even a fraction of the Indians, Turks and Arabs that mill around in your cities. True Iranians do not congregate in slums and wallow in self-pity like some groups but thrive and try to contribute to their temporary homes (Iranians in America are the most educated and among the most wealthy ethnic group!). True Iranians try to adapt to the culture of their temporary hosts. Those Iranians that do not are Islamist scum who are rightly despised in Iran.
Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 10:15 PM
More of our Iranians brothers...
http://www.iranhouseindia.com/year03/images/volybal-bg.jpg
http://www.pugmarks.com/sports/crict/images/wills/iran1.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1795000/images/_1799752_protestafp300.jpg
http://www.cardiostart.com/IMG_0932.jpg
http://www.cardiostart.com/Blue.jpg
http://www.cardiostart.com/IMG_0946.jpg
Look Diablo she's got green eyes, a pure Aryan eh?
And the nail in the coffin:
Iranians are a people of considerable ethnic and linguistic diversity, heirs to the many peoples that invaded the Iranian plateau over the millennia. The Indo-European speaking (or Aryans), Arabs, Turks, Mongols and others all contributed to today’s racial and ethnic mix.
Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 10:18 PM
Pardon the long post.
I am an Iranian. I am neither a WN nor do I wish to be “white” (however you wish to define it) or grouped with Europeans. Yet I have been mistaken as a native by natives while travelling in Spain, Italy and Greece. I have also been mistaken for a Lebanese, a Turk and an Armenian. When I say that I am Iranian, those who have mistaken me for their countryman often reply: “Of course I knew you were an Iranian, you could not be from my country!” How sad.
No one gives a fuck about you here except for diablomudlovingblanco, ok? Don't give me that shit about you being confused for a Spaniard because you would have your fucking throat cut if you even hinted something as ludicrous in person. You are a mud, your people have already been defiled by Arabs, mongols, niggers and God knows what else. Refrain from linking yourself to the pure Aryan people of Spain. Italy is another issue, I do tend to find those swarthy dagos a bit suspicious and wouldn't breed with one, they I would imagine being your brethren, Spain is a whole 'nother country.
Anima Eternae
July 11th, 2004, 10:22 PM
I am also shocked at the vile and offensive language used by some posters. While you may not think that Iranians are your kin (I would not disagree) you should post in a civilised manner. I have been informed that the two most important things for WNs are folk and honour. I do not see much honour in such rudeness. Indeed, it reminds me of how Turks behave and, I gather, resembles how WNs often describe the behaviour of certain non-white groups.
This is VNN. Don't worry about the harsh language, you get used to it. Really, this is the best place to desensitize yourself to insults. I swear I don't even get offended at "mongrel" or "gook" anymore, simply because I am approximately 45% asian. This place will harden you. Good stuff.
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Kamangir42
July 11th, 2004, 10:30 PM
No one gives a fuck about you here except for diablomudlovingblanco, ok? Don't give me that shit about you being confused for a Spaniard because you would have your fucking throat cut if you even hinted something as ludicruous in person. You are a mud, your people have already been defiled by Arabs, mongols, niggers and God knows what else.
I don't care if you don't give a fuck about me. As I said I am not a WN nor do I wish to be called "white" or join in a European clusterfuck.
What is your problem anyway? Are you mentally defective? Or perhaps you have another problem. You know psychologists have found that the most rabid homophobes are often themselves closet homosexuals. You seem so desperate to differentiate yourself from "muds" that it looks like you are really self-conscious about this. Maybe you don't like what you see in the mirror?
I have been mistaken for a Spaniard. You might not like it but that's the way it is. Notice I didn't say Spaniards and Iranians look the same because we don't.
All this macho throat cutting crap is pathetic. You are probably just a spotty 14-year old with a personality disorder. This is a monitored site you moron. It ain't too clever to mouth off.
Rarely have I ever come across anybody so savage and devoid of intelligence except maybe for Turks. Are you sure you ain't a Turk?
Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 10:33 PM
As to the Spanish guy, you should note that parts of Iran were ruled by the Arab scum for a much briefer period than they ruled parts of Spain.
Just remember one thing you ragheaded sand nigger mongrel bitch, you earned this.
Because the Moors occupied Spain for almost eight centuries, it is thought that they, along with African slaves, had a significant impact on the racial make-up of the country. Despite much speculation and hyperbole, anthropology actually finds Spaniards to be of pre-historic origin and quite distinct from the contemporary Mediterraneans of North Africa and the Middle East. Similarly, genetic research reveals the Moorish contribution to have been small, and the absorption of blacks even smaller.
http://www.angeltowns.com/members/racialreal/spaniards.html
Iranians are a people of considerable ethnic and linguistic diversity, heirs to the many peoples that invaded the Iranian plateau over the millennia. The Indo-European speaking (or Aryans), Arabs, Turks, Mongols and others all contributed to today’s racial and ethnic mix.
http://www.art-arena.com/people.htm (http://www.art-arena.com/people.htm)
Iranians are a racially aware people and prize pale skin and light coloured hair and eyes.
LOL oh I could imagine why, if my country was chock full of Arab shitkin sand niggers I think we'd be salvaging for White genes too.
Those Arabs had their way with all you whores as it's utterly clear by looking at pictures of your ilk, get over it, your people are nothing but Arab sand nigger mongrels.
Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 10:44 PM
Iranians have always been like this. Perhaps we are a little darker than Europeans
A little? ROTF!!!!! BUAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
http://robocup.iust.ac.ir/Team1.jpg
http://www.nitv.tv/albums/sep11/aa8.jpg
http://www.nitv.tv/albums/sep11/aa10.jpg
http://www.farsinet.com/news/images/team.jpg
As for Iranians being ragheads, I suggest that you stop being so ignorant. Iranians wear Western clothing not Arab tribal dress
http://www.anxietycenter.com/images/iranians-protest.jpg
http://www.worldtrek.org/odyssey/mideast/040500/images/iranians_bg.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1960000/images/_1961927_pic12.jpg
http://lmno4p.org/images/3.28-30/tehran28_3.jpg
What was that again???
Nordblod
July 11th, 2004, 10:50 PM
Rarely have I ever come across anybody so savage and devoid of intelligence
I agree that he's unnecessarily rude, but someone who writes "rarely have I ever" should perhaps look to his or her own intellectual shortcomings before making deriding remarks about those of others.
Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 11:04 PM
You seem so desperate to differentiate yourself from "muds" that it looks like you are really self-conscious about this. Maybe you don't like what you see in the mirror?
Spaniards tend to be somewhat xenophobic, we like to make the distinction between ourselves and other Euro tribes very clear, never mind a mongrel race of Arab, mongols, niggers and whatever else dumped their semen into the Iranian melting pot. Futher, I have no reason to be self conscious, just xenophobic like I said, my people in no way shape or form have any semblance to those rag headed Quran worshiping Arab shitskins of your country, we are proud White European people and don't have to be self conscious of anything. Compare you're mud people to my beautiful European people:
http://www.spanishmodels.net/men/Mauricioc1.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/men/Ericf2.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/men/Christians4.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/men/Christianz3.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Clara1.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/men/Hectorp1.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/susana2.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Vanessaa3.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Raquels4.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Paulav4.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Rosa2.jpg
Any questions?
Nordblod
July 11th, 2004, 11:07 PM
Why do you post pictures of dudes?
Abzug Hoffman
July 11th, 2004, 11:09 PM
Iranians are a people of considerable ethnic and linguistic diversity, heirs to the many peoples that invaded the Iranian plateau over the millennia. The Indo-European speaking (or Aryans), Arabs, Turks, Mongols and others all contributed to today’s racial and ethnic mix. ]Iranians are a people of considerable ethnic and linguistic diversity, heirs to the many peoples that invaded the Iranian plateau over the millennia. The Indo-European speaking (or Aryans), Arabs, Turks, Mongols and others all contributed to today’s racial and ethnic mix.
LOL oh I could imagine why, if my country was chock full of Arab shitkin sand niggers I think we'd be salvaging for White genes too.
Those Arabs had their way with all you whores as it's utterly clear by looking at pictures of your ilk, get over it, your people are nothing but Arab sand nigger mongrels.
Hey, I just thought of something. A lot of Middle Eastern men go to school in the USA and marry blue eyed white girls, if they can get them, and they have kids -"lightening up the race" the same as blacks do. So a picture of an "Iranian" in a crowd that looks Euro could BE Euro, and not Iranian at all. Of course, any girl that would marry an Iranian and go to Iran would be a mental defective, so no loss to the glorious white race there.
Anima Eternae
July 11th, 2004, 11:11 PM
Spanish and Italian women are the most attractive Europeans, in my point of view. But maybe it's because I have brown hair and green eyes...platinum blonde hair and blue eyes is too phenotypically different.
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Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 11:16 PM
I agree that he's unnecessarily rude, but someone who writes "rarely have I ever" should perhaps look to his or her own intellectual shortcomings before making deriding remarks about those of others.
Excuse me Nordblod, but when you are a proud European man who already has to fend off comical myths about your country, such insulting diatribe like that of Spaniards somehow resembling a bunch of Arab mongrels really gets to you. Maybe it's the conquistador in me but I will fight such myths until I cease to exist. The primary insinuator of these conflicts is "diabloblanco14", If I have to be honest I would say that I don't believe this man is White at all. He's done nothing but perpetuate misconceptions and outright fallacies and he's paving the way for Non-Euro Non Whites to barge in and graft themselves onto the White race. If I have to meet such offensive lies with uncouth insults then so be it, but stay quiet while the image of my country and homeland of Europe is a target for diparaging terms I will not.
Nordblod
July 11th, 2004, 11:19 PM
Excuse me Nordblod, but when you are a proud European man who already has to fend off comical myths about your country, such insulting diatribe like that of Spaniards somehow resembling a bunch of Arab mongrels really gets to you. Maybe it's the conquistador in me but I will fight such myths until I cease to exist. The primary insinuator of these conflicts is "diabloblanco14", If I have to be honest I would say that I don't believe this man is White at all. He's done nothing but perpetuate misconceptions and outright fallacies and he's paving the way for Non-Euro Non Whites to barge in and graft themselves onto the White race. If I have to meet such offensive lies with uncouth insults then so be it, but stay quiet while the image of my country and homeland of Europe is a target for diparaging terms I will not.
Yes, but why do you post pictures of dudes?
Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 11:23 PM
Spanish and Italian women are the most attractive Europeans, in my point of view. But maybe it's because I have brown hair and green eyes...platinum blonde hair and blue eyes is too phenotypically different.
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I find all European women utterly beautiful. Of course being proud of my people and being naturally inclined to attraction towards my own kind, I find Spanish women very beautiful no matter what phenotype. Nordic women are also a direct reflection of God's divinity upon our race and it saddens me that their kind is a prime target by the Jew scum who wish to eradicate us, but we will save them as well as all our other European brothers.
Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 11:41 PM
Yes, but why do you post pictures of dudes?
well let's get back to the women, shall we? Anyone feel free to join me.
I give you, the lovely Españolas:
http://spanishmodels.net/women/xisca/04.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Veronica2.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Teresab4.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Raquel4.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Anamoreno2.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Clara2.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Ariadna2.jpg
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Juliane4.jpg
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/blow/penelope_cruz/blowpre7.jpg
Me and this woman would bear some beautiful children.
http://img64.photobucket.com/albums/v195/aryanpride/penelope.jpg
What a doll.
Intrepid
July 12th, 2004, 12:08 AM
Posted by Nordblod
Yes, but why do you post pictures of dudes?
Perhaps, just perhaps, the haunting avatar of Morrissey might answer your query. Just speculation, of course.
Nordblod
July 12th, 2004, 12:12 AM
Huh? Who? Some kind of rectal rooting icon or something?
diabloblanco92
July 12th, 2004, 12:20 AM
Just remember one thing you ragheaded sand nigger mongrel bitch, you earned this.
Because the Moors occupied Spain for almost eight centuries, it is thought that they, along with African slaves, had a significant impact on the racial make-up of the country. Despite much speculation and hyperbole, anthropology actually finds Spaniards to be of pre-historic origin and quite distinct from the contemporary Mediterraneans of North Africa and the Middle East. Similarly, genetic research reveals the Moorish contribution to have been small, and the absorption of blacks even smaller.
http://www.angeltowns.com/members/racialreal/spaniards.html
Iranians are a people of considerable ethnic and linguistic diversity, heirs to the many peoples that invaded the Iranian plateau over the millennia. The Indo-European speaking (or Aryans), Arabs, Turks, Mongols and others all contributed to today’s racial and ethnic mix.
http://www.art-arena.com/people.htm (http://www.art-arena.com/people.htm)
LOL oh I could imagine why, if my country was chock full of Arab shitkin sand niggers I think we'd be salvaging for White genes too.
Those Arabs had their way with all you whores as it's utterly clear by looking at pictures of your ilk, get over it, your people are nothing but Arab sand nigger mongrels.
That site is NWO bullshit simply promoting the "everybodys mixed" myth. Those groups amy all have some presence in Iran, but the vast majority of Iranians are WHITE ARYANS. You could also say that the Us is made of Aryans, Negroes , Amerinds, Mongols, etc....but would thid mean it is a majority NW country.....NO!
A simple fact, 20000 Arab invaders overrun Cestiphon, the than capital of Iran, which actually was in central Mesopotamia. Iran and Byzantium have been foolishly pounding the crap out of each other for centuries, have as a result bled each other white, and left themselves easy prey for Arab brigands.
Now how do 20000 Arabs breed out a population of 20-30million? Aryans...Whores? you filthy bastard these poor women were RAPED, many died rather than be defiled, just as centiries later many heroic Russian women burned themselves alive in churches rather than let the Mongols touch them. If it were not for the heroic Greeks, Iranians and Russians, your precious Nordic countries would be a Mongol horse pasture.
You are right the accusations of racial mixtures against the Spainards are crap also, but it is disgusting how you turn on your Med brothers and sisters in the East in hopes of gaining acceptance by the Nordicists who will never accept you.
Hails
diabloblanco02
Intrepid
July 12th, 2004, 12:22 AM
Huh? Who? Some kind of rectal rooting icon or something?
Now, now, Nordblod. You're far too clever for you own good, albeit a bit too crass in this instance for my puritanical sensibilities. Be kind to the young Spaniard, despite his odd choice in avatar pickin'. That is, you're not under all the pressure of being constantly compared to Moors.
Nordblod
July 12th, 2004, 12:25 AM
I guess I would one of the "nordicists". My newly coined slogan is simple: "Cooperation - why sure. Interbreeding - why die."
I don't think it will ever gain the recognition it deserves.
Nordblod
July 12th, 2004, 12:29 AM
Be kind to the young Spaniard, despite his odd choice in avatar pickin'.
I was addressing you and your weird knowledge of the homosexual underworld.
Intrepid
July 12th, 2004, 12:33 AM
I was addressing you and your weird knowledge of the homosexual underworld
Really not that weird, lil' fellow: Morrissey = sodomite Brit singer.
Is living in your newly found cave making you cranky?
diabloblanco92
July 12th, 2004, 12:37 AM
I'll tell you how, the Spaniards look and ARE White, and those shitskins don't look and AREN't White. Why is that so hard to understand? The "White" race came to be in Europe, I could pick any of those people out easily in a crowd of sicilians or any of the other Swarthy bastards you find in Southern Italy.
However don't compare those creatures to Spaniards just to give your argument more leverage. Those people in no way resemble Spanish people and they're traits are very distinct. Jet black hair amongst Spaniards only occurs in about 25% of the population unlike these fucking muds, and soot Black eyes are almost unheard of in Spain, with these Iranians it seems to be 9 out of 10.
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/new/girls-sep-2003/images/scan0015_jpg.jpg
The one on the left looks like a pure Jew with beady black eyes and the one on the right looks swarthy enough to be an Indian from Chiapas Mexico.
http://www.bia2.com/picture/hiddencam8/0071.jpg
You sure can pick 'em. That Swarthy little woman would get picked off in a second if there was a race war and skin was your uniform.
http://www.bia2.com/picture/Girls/original/new/original/10.jpg
Again, two Jews and a Mexican looking mud.
Now, since I'm sure you've weeded out dozens of picks to find a couple of Iranian muds with some White semblance I'll pick up where you left off.
http://studyrussian.com/seidenstrasse/pic/hassan_ahmat_car.jpg
http://www.thedaf.com/news/Iranian-musical-concert-6-8%20poster.jpg
http://www.eworldsingles.com/homepages/Ir/IP/images/pic2.jpg
LOL that's diablo and his girlfriend basking in their joy of being muds.
http://www.cfar.umd.edu/~alizand/photogallery/nowruz.jpg
http://www.teammelli.com/Gallery/pics/teams/Team%20LG%20cup2000.jpg
http://www.payvand.com/news/03/sep/iran-jordan1.jpg
So you regard jet black hair as a sign or racial mixture. You said Spain was free of that and I agree, but you have just contradicted yourself. To top that all off you now attack us Southern Italians and Sicilains as mixed, even though mainland Southern Italy was never under bthe controlof the Morrs and Sicilyu was free after only 200 years....No WN Spainard would EVER consider Southern Italians, who are their closest brothers mixed ...YOU ARE A TROLL,YOU AE NOT A SPAINARD
The woman you called Mexican has NO Amerind faetures. "Swarthy" is not a racial trait. Only a booger picling ignoramus would consider it as such, as skin tone IS NOT A RACIAL TRAIT
"Jews"can look like any Caucasiod, and occasionally other races. Why do you think Hitler needed yellow starts to identify them? So your Jew allegations are pure crap.
Thanks, that is a very pretty girl you said was like my GF, except my gf is even more pretty....AND A FIGHTING RACIALIST WHO HAS ENGAGED IN ACTUAL STREET COMBAT WITH NWS. She is more "Real" than 99% of the people on this board INCLUDING ME
diablo
Vivaodio
July 12th, 2004, 12:45 AM
You are right the accusations of racial mixtures against the Spainards are crap also, but it is disgusting how you turn on your Med brothers and sisters in the East in hopes of gaining acceptance by the Nordicists who will never accept you.
Hails
diabloblanco02
You're quite the resilient one aren't you? How many times will I have to tell you
http://www.cheungswingchun.com/Images/China%20Tour/Iranians.WC.jpeg
Those are NOT my "brothers" no more than niggers and gooks are.
I'm not seeking to be accepted by any "nordicists", any sensible intelligent person will never question the purity of SPaniards. You keep denying that the Arabs had a significant effect on the populace of Iran but as everyone here can see, you are utterly misinformed. The pictures say it all. I'm not going to warn you again, don't call these Arab shitskins my "brothers". The only people I consider my brothers are Europeans, sans those swarthy Southern Italians that are much too dark for my taste.
Vivaodio
July 12th, 2004, 12:56 AM
So you regard jet black hair as a sign or racial mixture. You said Spain was free of that and I agree, but you have just contradicted yourself.
You misread, you moron. I said that only (roughly) 25% of Spains population has jet black hair and that soot black eyes are a rarity and almost undheard of. On the other hand every single Iranian has thick jet black hair and soot black eyes, this apart from the dark brown skin. WHITE people do not have brown skin!!! You have an agenda here to include muds into the White race which seems to be for the purpose of sex or your own personal gratification since your supposed girlfriend happens to be a mud.
About my comment concerning Italians you are right, some Southern Italains have raised suspicions with me because of their arbnormally dark skin or overly curly hair. Nothing against that but those aren't known to be prominent White traits and I prefer to avoid mixing with those types.
diabloblanco92
July 12th, 2004, 12:57 AM
Pardon the long post.
I am an Iranian. I am neither a WN nor do I wish to be “white” (however you wish to define it) or grouped with Europeans. Yet I have been mistaken as a native by natives while travelling in Spain, Italy and Greece. I have also been mistaken for a Lebanese, a Turk and an Armenian. When I say that I am Iranian, those who have mistaken me for their countryman often reply: “Of course I knew you were an Iranian, you could not be from my country!” How sad.
I am not a Turk or a Semite (there isn’t even a Semitic race, it’s a language group). No true Iranian is. You could not provide any proof that I am. We Iranians call ourselves Aryans but this does not mean we class ourselves as “white” or European. Far from it. We are proud of our distinct, nay unique, history. Iranians wrote that they were Aryan 3000 years ago and before Europe even existed.
I am also shocked at the vile and offensive language used by some posters. While you may not think that Iranians are your kin (I would not disagree) you should post in a civilised manner. I have been informed that the two most important things for WNs are folk and honour. I do not see much honour in such rudeness. Indeed, it reminds me of how Turks behave and, I gather, resembles how WNs often describe the behaviour of certain non-white groups.
As to the Spanish guy, you should note that parts of Iran were ruled by the Arab scum for a much briefer period than they ruled parts of Spain. The Iranian Buyid dynasty chucked the Arabs out of Iran and took over the Abbassid Caliphate in the tenth century, much earlier than they were thankfully ejected from Spain. Before then there were often Iranian insurrections against the Arabs (under Babak Khoramdin for instance) in which independence was reasserted and the Arabs were massacred. Now I ask you: if parts of Iran were ruled by the Arabs for much less than they ruled parts of Spain, then how come Iranians mixed with them but Spaniards did not? I think the answer is that the Spaniards and Iranians as racially aware people and mixing only very rarely took place. Iranians are a racially aware people and prize pale skin and light coloured hair and eyes. There is quite a famous Persian song, for example, sung supposedly by a girl being pursued by a suitor which is called “You’re black, I don’t want you”! As for the notion that Islam encourages race mixing, this may be true. But Iranians disregard this as a proud people who passionately hate Turks and Arabs (we have a small community of black former slaves who are shunned by real Iranians).
The notion that Afghans are more “European” (I guess this means that they have a higher proportion of light coloured hair and eyes and paler skin) than Iranians is frankly laughable (not that pure Tajiks would not be counted as brother Iranians). Afghan refugees in Iran are thought of as dark. Besides, a significant proportion of Iranians have pale skin and light coloured hair and eyes. In my own family, my father has green eyes, my maternal grandfather has light brown hair and blue/grey eyes, my paternal grandmother had brown hair, my uncle has light brown hair and green eyes, one of my aunts has brown hair while another had green eyes and red hair, of my great aunts three have brown hair (of those one has green eyes) and one had red hair and green eyes, one of my mother’s cousins has light brown hair and green eyes and another has blond hair and blue eyes. I could go on for ages and this is just my family. Personally I have black hair and brown eyes. Many members of my family have pale skin while others are darker (though none could ever be mistaken for an Indian). It is not uncommon for a sibling to be darker than their brother or sister. For instance, my mother’s cousin with blond hair has two children: one is pale as any European I have ever seen and one looks Mediterranean.
Iranians have always been like this. Perhaps we are a little darker than Europeans (though many Iranians could fit into Europe without being noticed) but this is not surprising given the extreme heat in the country (pretty much 40-50˚C throughout much of the country in summer) and the sun is very ferocious. After so many centuries we have adapted to the environment (although we are nowhere near as dark as true Arabs and Indians). I fail to see how this makes Iranian “scum”. Iranians have been like this since the days of Cyrus and Darius. You think the Persian Empire was built by “scum”?
As for Iranians being ragheads, I suggest that you stop being so ignorant. Iranians wear Western clothing not Arab tribal dress. Not that I have anything against wearing “rags”. In such a harsh climate the choice is often to wear “rags” or die while roaming around under the sun. To use “raghead” as an insult is like calling the British “raincoat wearers”! Some Iranians still wear tribal dress but this is often colourful and similar to Eastern European or Balkan traditional attire. Indeed, it might surprise you to know that Iranians invented the tunic and trousers while the Greeks and Romans were walking around in togas and whatnot.
Iranians are a proud people. In the past, we often allied and fought with Europe against the savage Turks. The true Iranians living in Europe and the US are not a threat to you. Most are waiting for things to change in the motherland so that they can go back. Their numbers are not even a fraction of the Indians, Turks and Arabs that mill around in your cities. True Iranians do not congregate in slums and wallow in self-pity like some groups but thrive and try to contribute to their temporary homes (Iranians in America are the most educated and among the most wealthy ethnic group!). True Iranians try to adapt to the culture of their temporary hosts. Those Iranians that do not are Islamist scum who are rightly despised in Iran.
You shouldnot be put off by the behavior of some of the people here, as my post willprove, not all WNs behave in such a fashion. I understand that Iranians are very proud,and in your case it seems wish to see themselves as a race unto themselves.
However, there are 2 problems with this approach.Firstly, it is not supported by science. Iranians are certainly a very distinct group, nevertheless if we are to proceed by scientific definitions, by racial traits, there is no doubt that they are part of the larger White or Aryan race.
Secondly,as Leon Trotsky said "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" Whether you or some of the WNs recoginize it or not, you are seen by the enemies of our arce as part of it....and NWO has plans for Iran, and they are highly unpleasant.
If you think the Mullahas are bad, you are right....however, as we Yanks say "You ain't seen nothing yet" Baby Bush is already cackling about invading Iran, and bringing in a Negro and Mestizo occupying army together with a filthy internationalist corporate culture.The Aryan women of Iran are the target, the global elites wish to reduce us all to brown slaves toiling away for $1/hr
Do you want Tehran turned into some multi racial hell like NY or Los Angles? I know that you do not. If so, you will realize that whatever our race wants to call itself, Aryan, White whatever, we are one people and many tribes. Our extermination is planned, and no one tribe, however proud, can stop it. Do not allow these fools to manipulate you into contempt for Euro-Aryans, you will be playing right into their hands.
diablo
Anima Eternae
July 12th, 2004, 01:03 AM
Hey Diablo, are you the one IrishJay banished to OP, then DB told him to undo it and he wouldn't?
The drama....
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diabloblanco92
July 12th, 2004, 01:07 AM
You're quite the resilient one aren't you? How many times will I have to tell you
http://www.cheungswingchun.com/Images/China%20Tour/Iranians.WC.jpeg
Those are NOT my "brothers" no more than niggers and gooks are.
I'm not seeking to be accepted by any "nordicists", any sensible intelligent person will never question the purity of SPaniards. You keep denying that the Arabs had a significant effect on the populace of Iran but as everyone here can see, you are utterly misinformed. The pictures say it all. I'm not going to warn you again, don't call these Arab shitskins my "brothers". The only people I consider my brothers are Europeans, sans those swarthy Southern Italians that are much too dark for my taste.
Whites do not have truly brown skin, but they do have olive skin, as do many Spainards. If one has skin the color of a Tamils, or the color of say Norah Jones father, yes,one is not White. None of the Iranians in those pics have such skin, they do not in any way look like South Indians.
As for Southern Italians, Andalusians are even darker than most of them, yet both are White. Your inference that the only Whites that remain White just happen to be west of some artifical line is patently absurd
diablo
Vivaodio
July 12th, 2004, 01:10 AM
Hey Diablo, are you the one IrishJay banished to OP, then DB told him to undo it and he wouldn't?
The drama....
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Can you really question why? Anything this joker says should be taken with a grain of salt. He's trying to completely change history and anthropology all in the name of his Arab girlfriend.
diabloblanco92
July 12th, 2004, 01:10 AM
Hey Diablo, are you the one IrishJay banished to OP, then DB told him to undo it and he wouldn't?
The drama....
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That is my understanding of things, though I have not been able to confirm it.
diablo
diabloblanco92
July 12th, 2004, 01:14 AM
Can you really question why? Anything this joker says should be taken with a grain of salt. He's trying to completely change history and anthropology all in the name of his Arab girlfriend.
Arab ,LOL what a joke. Actually my views on this subject antedated my meeting this young lady,and were frequently expressed before I did so.
diablo
Vivaodio
July 12th, 2004, 01:23 AM
Whites do not have truly brown skin, but they do have olive skin, as do many Spainards. If one has skin the color of a Tamils, or the color of say Norah Jones father, yes,one is not White. None of the Iranians in those pics have such skin, they do not in any way look like South Indians.
As for Southern Italians, Andalusians are even darker than most of them, yet both are White. Your inference that the only Whites that remain White just happen to be west of some artifical line is patently absurd
diablo
BULSHIT!!! Show me one Spaniard with naturally "olive" skin. Spaniards tan easier which would make sence since sun adaptation in the hot summers of Spain is a given but not one pure Spaniard has "olive" skin. Show me one picture, and while you search for it here's a picture of a Southern Italian greasy dago.
http://www.wchstv.com/abc/nypdblue/nicholasturturro.jpg
Nicholas Turturro, diablobanclos Italian brethren
diabloblanco92
July 12th, 2004, 01:32 AM
BULSHIT!!! Show me one Spaniard with naturally "olive" skin. Spaniards tan easier which would make sence since sun adaptation in the hot summers of Spain is a given but not one pure Spaniard has "olive" skin. Show me one picture, and while you search for it here's a picture of a Southern Italian greasy dago.
http://www.wchstv.com/abc/nypdblue/nicholasturturro.jpg
Nicholas Turturro, diablobanclos Italalian brethren
You lying fucker, he's half Puerto Rican. What are you going to do next, post Vin Diesel and claim he is full Italian
diablo
Vivaodio
July 12th, 2004, 08:31 AM
But there are still many white Spainish people, and I only consider the white people there to be real Spanish not the funny looking mongerls they can go back to North Africa.
By all means, show me these "mongrels". Never mind that anthropology finds no connection between Spaniards and North Africans and there's not even one pure Spaniard with "olive" skin. I can show you a host of Russians that look like pure Mongols if you want to play that game. Also take into account that:
1) The Moors occupied other countries in Europe including Italy, Greece, and France.
2) The Moors never occupied northern Spain, including Barcelona.
3) There was very little intermixing with the Moorish occupiers in Southern Spain. The Catholic Church prohibited marriage with Muslims by pain of excommunication. Many of the few mixed Spanish-Moors, known as "Moriscos,"who remained in Spain after the defeat of the Moors were expelled by King Philip III in 1609. Modern anthropological studies on the ethnic makeup of modern day Spaniards show that there is in fact very little indication of Moorish ancestry in Southern Spain and almost none in northern Spain today.
4) The Spanish empire extended beyond Latin America. Parts of Europe and the United States were controlled by the "Arabesque" Spanish. Spain ruled Holland and Belgium for over 100 years. Does that make those countries Spanish and therefore Arabesque? Much of the United States including California, and Florida were explored, named, and colonized by Spain. Does this fact make Governor Schwarzenegger a Spaniard? Are all Californians Iberian? Of course not. Why then would the influence of Arab naming and architecture in Spain over 500 years ago make modern Spaniards Arabesque?
The fact is that such misconceptions that Americans have about Spain are based on outright lies, ignorance, and what seems to be a political agenda.
Shapur
July 12th, 2004, 10:44 AM
I have actuall no time to read all this stuff. I will say you some facts:
The most Iranians are from the Irano-Afghan race which is related to the old Croded type which is the base of the Aryan race. Every European have ancestors from the proto-Aryanoid(two subtypes Irano-Afghan and Corded).
The Armenoids are a mix of Alpine(which is the elementare type of south Europe) and Irano-Afghan. There are many variants of Dinaricized Aryanoids in the Iranian world. These picture you showed of Iranians.
Some of them are Aryanoids and some unpure Aryanoids.
Some are non-Iranians who fight in Afghanistan for a "Jihad".
The most Iranian speaking people are Aryanoid this is a fact.
Who accept them as their brothers please come and fight beside us for the Aryanoid race. Who don`t like us because we have black hairs, don`t forget you have in your own countries many black haired people.
To the south Europeans. Who is against us is mad, because every person who read something about the history and genetic know that Iranian speaking people and south Europeans are genetical very very related.
Also who read the old works of ancient poets and historicans know that both the Greeks and the Romans "which are called from the European! Union as the base of the European nation" are from serval IRANIAN SPEAKING tribes.
When one is sick of this then it is your problem. I am not stupid. I know who make propaganda against Iranian people. For 20 years the Nordists people hated the south Europeans. Today they hate us Iranians wait 20 years and this will change too. So good bye and a nice day.
When someone has special question about genetic, history or phisical anthropology or maybe about linguistic he or she can every time write me a PM.
Bedrud and Rooze khubi dashte bashin! ;)
Fredrik Haerne
July 12th, 2004, 12:10 PM
Also who read the old works of ancient poets and historicans know that both the Greeks and the Romans "which are called from the European! Union as the base of the European nation" are from serval IRANIAN SPEAKING tribes.
When one is sick of this then it is your problem. I am not stupid. I know who make propaganda against Iranian people. For 20 years the Nordists people hated the south Europeans. Today they hate us Iranians wait 20 years and this will change too. So good bye and a nice day.
Marxist influence on debating tricks: say that your opponent's opinion is "his problem," to insinuate that it's not a valid opinion but a mental disease. Marxism has always attacked by claiming its opponents are mentally ill.
Called the base of the European nation by the EU? Riiiiight. Never heard that, but of course a non-European mongrel would know more about the EU than I do. And of course the EU, this anti-nationalist, anti-White monster bureaucracy, is the fountain of wisdom about Europe, hm? Not that it matters whatever you call the "heart of Europe," just thought it was funny. From Iranian-speaking tribes? Better lay off those mushrooms.
Germanics don't have Romanics, they don't cause us trouble. Iranian and Arab immigrants, on the other hand, do. Usually when a Germanic thinks about southern Europe he's in history class, or planning where to go on vacation. If Germanic nationalists bring up southern Europe, which is not so often, it's in a discussion about how much immigration they have and what nationalist parties they have. That's the extent of our involvement with the south.
diabloblanco92
July 12th, 2004, 09:12 PM
I have actuall no time to read all this stuff. I will say you some facts:
The most Iranians are from the Irano-Afghan race which is related to the old Croded type which is the base of the Aryan race. Every European have ancestors from the proto-Aryanoid(two subtypes Irano-Afghan and Corded).
The Armenoids are a mix of Alpine(which is the elementare type of south Europe) and Irano-Afghan. There are many variants of Dinaricized Aryanoids in the Iranian world. These picture you showed of Iranians.
Some of them are Aryanoids and some unpure Aryanoids.
Some are non-Iranians who fight in Afghanistan for a "Jihad".
The most Iranian speaking people are Aryanoid this is a fact.
Who accept them as their brothers please come and fight beside us for the Aryanoid race. Who don`t like us because we have black hairs, don`t forget you have in your own countries many black haired people.
To the south Europeans. Who is against us is mad, because every person who read something about the history and genetic know that Iranian speaking people and south Europeans are genetical very very related.
Also who read the old works of ancient poets and historicans know that both the Greeks and the Romans "which are called from the European! Union as the base of the European nation" are from serval IRANIAN SPEAKING tribes.
When one is sick of this then it is your problem. I am not stupid. I know who make propaganda against Iranian people. For 20 years the Nordists people hated the south Europeans. Today they hate us Iranians wait 20 years and this will change too. So good bye and a nice day.
When someone has special question about genetic, history or phisical anthropology or maybe about linguistic he or she can every time write me a PM.
Bedrud and Rooze khubi dashte bashin! ;)
My brother, you are once again dead on target.There are no Nordicists in the foxholes. Sooner or later,virtually every WN will be a Pan Aryan,but by then it might be too late
The White farmers in Zimbabwe who are being murdered by the Blacks would not turn our help away because we both have black hair, or because I am Southern Italian or you are Iranian, but if we wait umtil our homelands are like Zimbabwe, it will be too late
diablo
diabloblanco92
July 12th, 2004, 09:30 PM
Marxist influence on debating tricks: say that your opponent's opinion is "his problem," to insinuate that it's not a valid opinion but a mental disease. Marxism has always attacked by claiming its opponents are mentally ill.
Called the base of the European nation by the EU? Riiiiight. Never heard that, but of course a non-European mongrel would know more about the EU than I do. And of course the EU, this anti-nationalist, anti-White monster bureaucracy, is the fountain of wisdom about Europe, hm? Not that it matters whatever you call the "heart of Europe," just thought it was funny. From Iranian-speaking tribes? Better lay off those mushrooms.
Germanics don't have Romanics, they don't cause us trouble. Iranian and Arab immigrants, on the other hand, do. Usually when a Germanic thinks about southern Europe he's in history class, or planning where to go on vacation. If Germanic nationalists bring up southern Europe, which is not so often, it's in a discussion about how much immigration they have and what nationalist parties they have. That's the extent of our involvement with the south.
Im not from Germany,and I can't speak for the Germans though a fair number of my ancestors are. But we do have at least 1.4 Million Iranians in the US,and I have no clue as to what "trouble" they have caused us other than to supply us with Aryan doctors, engineers, scientists, entreprenuers, educators, as well as beautiful and charming White women like my gf
If you want immigrants that have caused us trouble, and COULD NOT HELP but cause us trouble by their very genetic makeup, trust me,you will have no trouble finding them. But Iranians are not among them, in fact they assimilate so well and melt into the rest of the White population so much that you hardly notice them in a collective sense
diablo
diabloblanco92
July 12th, 2004, 09:35 PM
Marxist influence on debating tricks: say that your opponent's opinion is "his problem," to insinuate that it's not a valid opinion but a mental disease. Marxism has always attacked by claiming its opponents are mentally ill.
Called the base of the European nation by the EU? Riiiiight. Never heard that, but of course a non-European mongrel would know more about the EU than I do. And of course the EU, this anti-nationalist, anti-White monster bureaucracy, is the fountain of wisdom about Europe, hm? Not that it matters whatever you call the "heart of Europe," just thought it was funny. From Iranian-speaking tribes? Better lay off those mushrooms.
Germanics don't have Romanics, they don't cause us trouble. Iranian and Arab immigrants, on the other hand, do. Usually when a Germanic thinks about southern Europe he's in history class, or planning where to go on vacation. If Germanic nationalists bring up southern Europe, which is not so often, it's in a discussion about how much immigration they have and what nationalist parties they have. That's the extent of our involvement with the south.
Germany did in fact absorb about 500000 Southern Italians in the 2 decades following WW@. Some misguided German Nationalists at the time bitched and moaned about them. It turmsout that they completly assimilated and now everyone loves them
Nothing new there, there has been a periodic geneflow between the Germanic and Romanic lands both ways for thousands of years. I dont see how it has done any harm to either segment of Whites.
diablo
Anima Eternae
July 12th, 2004, 09:35 PM
My main beef with Iran is Islam. They could accomplish so much without that weight.
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Vivaodio
July 12th, 2004, 09:52 PM
But Iranians are not among them, in fact they assimilate so well and melt into the rest of the White population so much that you hardly notice them in a collective sense
diablo
And that's exactly what you want isn't it? For those greasy black eyed shitskins to dissolve themselves into the Euro gene pool? Dream on motherfucker, before one of those fuckers even had the slightest thought of corrupting my families bloodline you can bet I'd be skinning those bastards alive and impaling them as an example for any of those other Arab mongrels with similar thoughts. Iran is a lost cause, maybe they were White thousands of years of ago but it's clearly not the case now, if we had a WN nation and you even suggested that we should cleanse these Arab motherfuckers at our expense you would suffer no less a fate than what niggers deserve.
diabloblanco92
July 13th, 2004, 12:11 AM
And that's exactly what you want isn't it? For those greasy black eyed shitskins to dissolve themselves into the Euro gene pool? Dream on motherfucker, before one of those fuckers even had the slightest thought of corrupting my families bloodline you can bet I'd be skinning those bastards alive and impaling them as an example for any of those other Arab mongrels with similar thoughts. Iran is a lost cause, maybe they were White thousands of years of ago but it's clearly not the case now, if we had a WN nation and you even suggested that we should cleanse these Arab motherfuckers at our expense you would suffer no less a fate than what niggers deserve.
You are a Nordish fraud and vile traitor to our race. You use evey term the Med haters use against Euro-Meds, against the Iranians.....first the Iranians and you are an enemyof my people the Southern Italians,without whom Spain would not even exist.
Far from corrupting your bloodline, you would be corrupting theirs. Anyone who attacks White people with dark hair and eyes and claims to be a Med is a liar and a fraud...YOU WILL NEVER BE A MED WN IF YOU BUY INTO THE "BLONDER IS WHITER" BS, AND YOU DO. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SPEAK FOR US MEDS.
It is scum like you, vile foul perverts who wish to kill White women under an absurd pretense of "cleansing' that are our enemies. It is you who will share a grim fate.
diablo
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 07:25 AM
You are a Nordish fraud and vile traitor to our race. You use evey term the Med haters use against Euro-Meds, against the Iranians.....first the Iranians and you are an enemyof my people the Southern Italians,without whom Spain would not even exist.
Far from corrupting your bloodline, you would be corrupting theirs. Anyone who attacks White people with dark hair and eyes and claims to be a Med is a liar and a fraud...YOU WILL NEVER BE A MED WN IF YOU BUY INTO THE "BLONDER IS WHITER" BS, AND YOU DO. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SPEAK FOR US MEDS.
It is scum like you, vile foul perverts who wish to kill White women under an absurd pretense of "cleansing' that are our enemies. It is you who will share a grim fate.
diablo
I will NEVER advocate the corruption of Euro bloodlines with a Non Euro, Non-White race which surrendered their purity thousands of years ago, all for the sake of "dissolving" them into our gene pool. This is not a med bashing post, far from it, I am fending off attacks from people that would insinuate that meds are somehow tainted with Arabs, niggers, and whatnot.
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/all_the_pretty_horses/penelope_cruz/horsespre2.jpg
This Spaniard has dark features, and apart from being beautiful she is White. There's no refutting that, she's a lovely WHITE meditteranean woman.
However this:
http://www.payvand.com/news/03/oct/poupeh1.jpg
IS NOT WHITE!! Heck, even Jews would be difficult to discern were it not for their names or in certain cases by their features. Do you think Hitler would need yellow stars to separate Iranians from Whites? Obviously Jews are worlds apart from Iranians in terms of looking White, so why don't we call them White as well?
Shapur
July 13th, 2004, 10:28 AM
I will NEVER advocate the corruption of Euro bloodlines with a Non Euro, Non-White race which surrendered their purity thousands of years ago, all for the sake of "dissolving" them into our gene pool. This is not a med bashing post, far from it, I am fending off attacks from people that would insinuate that meds are somehow tainted with Arabs, niggers, and whatnot.
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/all_the_pretty_horses/penelope_cruz/horsespre2.jpg
This Spaniard has dark features, and apart from being beautiful she is White. There's no refutting that, she's a lovely WHITE meditteranean woman.
However this:
http://www.payvand.com/news/03/oct/poupeh1.jpg
IS NOT WHITE!! Heck, even Jews would be difficult to discern were it not for their names or in certain cases by their features. Do you think Hitler would need yellow stars to separate Iranians from Whites? Obviously Jews are worlds apart from Iranians in terms of looking White, so why don't we call them White as well?
You are a fool who know nothing about anthropolgy, genetic and history!
LOL :D
Fredrik Haerne
July 13th, 2004, 10:57 AM
Shapur needs endless posts of far-fetched theories and irrelevant data to prove his point ... the rest of us only need our eyes and common sense. :D
Shigger, give it a rest. We Whites know who is White, you don't.
Nordblod
July 13th, 2004, 11:46 AM
But she has HG-3 in great abundance!
Anima Eternae
July 13th, 2004, 12:46 PM
Iranians:
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15789.jpg
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15795.jpg
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15791.jpg
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15792.jpg
Spaniard:
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15794.jpg
As for Iranians being white. I have no freaking clue. There's only so much your eye will tell you, and what's more..."white" is not a concrete term. And it's not a scientific term. So I don't know.
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Fredrik Haerne
July 13th, 2004, 01:04 PM
As for Iranians being white. I have no freaking clue. There's only so much your eye will tell you, and what's more..."white" is not a concrete term. And it's not a scientific term. So I don't know.
You are only part-White, so you obviously have a vested interest in fuzzying up the term a little. This is why we can accept financial support from non-Whites and the miscegenated, if they feel inclined to give it, but we must never accept them into our nationalist parties and organizations. As soon as we do they will start trying to lower the bar for more of their own kind.
Anima Eternae
July 13th, 2004, 01:27 PM
You are only part-White, so you obviously have a vested interest in fuzzying up the term a little. This is why we can accept financial support from non-Whites and the miscegenated, if they feel inclined to give it, but we must never accept them into our nationalist parties and organizations. As soon as we do they will start trying to lower the bar for more of their own kind.
I don't have any interest. I don't claim to be white, or nor do I want to join a white nationalist party...
My point was that on the issues of Iranians, many people will be divided. If you look at their genes they're very similar to europeans, even if their physical appearance is a bit darker. All races blend together at some point, due to the very nature of evolution.
Obviously Iranians are on that edge, and subject to debate. (I'm looking for a genetic map that shows racial gene distributions...i'll update when I find it).
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Fredrik Haerne
July 13th, 2004, 01:41 PM
I have met many Iranians. They are not White. Their behavior is not White. They were miscegenated a long time ago. They often have to shave between their eyebrows, and shave the area between their eyelids and eyebrows, just like other darklings. Their country is full of corruption, and they never got anywhere: just like all other countries Whites found when we conquered the world, they were stuck in an un-technological state from which they could not evolve.
And they are the world's worst car drivers, statistics show. That's enough evidence right there. :cool:
Here's from an internet homepage, a guy who describes his visit to Iran. Sure sounds like any other Third World country, doesn't it? Not to mention they starve and kick dogs, another trademark of Third Worlders.
The six most detestable things about Iran :
1. The homicidal driving, although extremely entertaining, is easily the worst thing, and for mine, Iranian drivers are the worst drivers in the world. Imagine driving on a six lane city street - three lanes going your way, three lanes oncoming - chokkas full of traffic. Your taxi driver takes it upon himself to get you to the airport quickly, despite no need. He also makes the puzzling decision to move into an oncoming traffic lane, under the dubious logic that the traffic going in our direction is moving too slow. I was going to explain to him that just because the traffic is moving faster in the oncoming lane, does NOT mean that we will get to our destination faster. There was something about negative velocity in common physics that our single-brain-celled friend did not understand. Not only does this taxi driver nearly compress into the tarmac the hapless pedestrians caught in the "safe" few millimetres in the centre of the road, but when he finally decides that fitting seven cars wide into six lanes is not a life preserving move, he proceeds to accelerate into a fully packed and completely stopped roundabout whilst looking down at my guidebook. Pedders, Bendix, Repco - they should all move their head offices to Tehran. Drivers'd go through a set of brake pads/shoes every week here!
2. That the bean counters and tourism heads have rubbed their hands together in the last four years to deliver a fantastically biased tourist entry fee system where you think of a price for Iranians and multiply it by 10 for tourists. Yes we may have more expendable dollars than some of the locals, but we then cut down on the number of tourist things we go to. We're keen, but we're not stupid.
3. Bus company workers that promise you seats and don't deliver. (I put this one in for you Trish.)
4. A country that has excellent cuisine to offer the world, but presents the traveller with kebab after flaming kebab, sandwiches (of tomato, pickles, and sausage - if you're "lucky enough" to be a meat eater) and rice (if you're willing to spend a fortune and walk five miles to the nearest boutique eaterie.) {I do overstate the case, but never let the facts get in the way of a good story.}
5. The dickheads that gave this country a bad name, either on "our" side, or "theirs".
6. Litter - it is a great pity that many of the people here just throw there rubbish everywhere. In such a beautiful country, they generate so much waste, and it's all on display and it's all rotting, and it's destroying ecosystems.
Kamangir42
July 13th, 2004, 02:14 PM
I don't have any interest. I don't claim to be white, or nor do I want to join a white nationalist party...
My point was that on the issues of Iranians, many people will be divided. If you look at their genes they're very similar to europeans, even if their physical appearance is a bit darker. All races blend together at some point, due to the very nature of evolution.
Obviously Iranians are on that edge, and subject to debate. (I'm looking for a genetic map that shows racial gene distributions...i'll update when I find it).
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Perhaps you are talking about this genetic map?
Graphic representation of the genetic differences between 42 population groups from "The History and Geography of Human Genes" by Cavalli-Sforza, Menozzi and Piazza
http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/GeneMap.jpg
Source: http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/GeneMap.htm
You should also note that skin colour is the least reliable indicator of race because it changes in response to climatic and environmental conditions. Take a look at http://www.angeltowns.com/members/racialreal/skincolor.html.
Note that this is the same site that the Spanish guy used to demonstrate that the Spanish do not have admixture.
Anima Eternae
July 13th, 2004, 02:18 PM
I think it was by the same group, but it was a different layout. It had askhenazis listed as well, with symbols being triangles.
Let me know if you come across it. But yeah, Iranians (or should I say Persians), fall within other European groups. Perhaps people look too much at blonde hair.
edit: Found it.
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15828.jpg
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Fredrik Haerne
July 13th, 2004, 02:21 PM
IPerhaps people look too much at blonde hair.
We Whites know who is White when we see them. Italians and Spaniards are White, even though they are dark: Iranians, which I have seen many of, are not of our race. Enough said. And who cares about Iranian internet pictures?
What Shigger is trying to do is claim the words White and Aryan for Iranians, while Germanics according to him are not included. Whatever. Call it what you want, play with words all you like, but the Iranians are not our race.
Kamangir42
July 13th, 2004, 02:54 PM
I think it was by the same group, but it was a different layout. It had askhenazis listed as well, with symbols being triangles.
Let me know if you come across it. But yeah, Iranians (or should I say Persians), fall within other European groups. Perhaps people look too much at blonde hair.
edit: Found it.
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15828.jpg
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Sorry Anima but there doesn't seem to be any Iranian (or Persian) marker represented on this graph.
Anima Eternae
July 13th, 2004, 02:56 PM
Yeah, I know. Oops.
But it clearly shows Ashkenazis jews aren't white.
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Kamangir42
July 13th, 2004, 04:37 PM
I have met many Iranians. They are not White. Their behavior is not White. They were miscegenated a long time ago. They often have to shave between their eyebrows, and shave the area between their eyelids and eyebrows, just like other darklings. Their country is full of corruption, and they never got anywhere: just like all other countries Whites found when we conquered the world, they were stuck in an un-technological state from which they could not evolve.
And they are the world's worst car drivers, statistics show. That's enough evidence right there. :cool:
Here's from an internet homepage, a guy who describes his visit to Iran. Sure sounds like any other Third World country, doesn't it? Not to mention they starve and kick dogs, another trademark of Third Worlders.
The six most detestable things about Iran :
1. The homicidal driving, although extremely entertaining, is easily the worst thing, and for mine, Iranian drivers are the worst drivers in the world. Imagine driving on a six lane city street - three lanes going your way, three lanes oncoming - chokkas full of traffic. Your taxi driver takes it upon himself to get you to the airport quickly, despite no need. He also makes the puzzling decision to move into an oncoming traffic lane, under the dubious logic that the traffic going in our direction is moving too slow. I was going to explain to him that just because the traffic is moving faster in the oncoming lane, does NOT mean that we will get to our destination faster. There was something about negative velocity in common physics that our single-brain-celled friend did not understand. Not only does this taxi driver nearly compress into the tarmac the hapless pedestrians caught in the "safe" few millimetres in the centre of the road, but when he finally decides that fitting seven cars wide into six lanes is not a life preserving move, he proceeds to accelerate into a fully packed and completely stopped roundabout whilst looking down at my guidebook. Pedders, Bendix, Repco - they should all move their head offices to Tehran. Drivers'd go through a set of brake pads/shoes every week here!
2. That the bean counters and tourism heads have rubbed their hands together in the last four years to deliver a fantastically biased tourist entry fee system where you think of a price for Iranians and multiply it by 10 for tourists. Yes we may have more expendable dollars than some of the locals, but we then cut down on the number of tourist things we go to. We're keen, but we're not stupid.
3. Bus company workers that promise you seats and don't deliver. (I put this one in for you Trish.)
4. A country that has excellent cuisine to offer the world, but presents the traveller with kebab after flaming kebab, sandwiches (of tomato, pickles, and sausage - if you're "lucky enough" to be a meat eater) and rice (if you're willing to spend a fortune and walk five miles to the nearest boutique eaterie.) {I do overstate the case, but never let the facts get in the way of a good story.}
5. The dickheads that gave this country a bad name, either on "our" side, or "theirs".
6. Litter - it is a great pity that many of the people here just throw there rubbish everywhere. In such a beautiful country, they generate so much waste, and it's all on display and it's all rotting, and it's destroying ecosystems.
Note that I do not claim to be "white" nor am I a WN. As such I have no interest in trying to pull the wool over your eyes as it were. But I have to take issue with some of your comments.
First, I see that you cannot give a simple definition of the so-called "white" race. If "whiteness" can be identified by perception, as you have said, then there must be certain physical characteristics which lead you towards this conclusion. Can you enlighten us on what these characteristics are? Why are swarthy Spaniards "white" yet pale Iranians not so?
What proof do you have that Iranians were miscegenated (you like this word don't you?) a long time ago? You do realise that Iran is a multi-ethnic state (more an empire actually) and that there are Arab, Turkmen and assorted other minorities? While some of these minorities may previously have been racially Iranian they have mixed quite substantially with other peoples. "Persians" (and a few other minorities such as Gilakis) have very little admixture. I won't comment on the position of the Azaris because it is quite complicated. Whether "Persians" are "white" or not, they are not Arab, Mongol.
Now let's address your seeming obsession with facial hair. It appears that you think facial hair (in this case bushy eyebrows) is a "non-white" characteristic. Yet, as far as I know, Mongoloids and Negroids have a dearth of facial and body hair. So, by your reasoning, the closer you are to Negroids and Mongoloids the more "white" you are. Does this make sense to you? And let's ignore the fact that many Europeans, even those from the British Isles, have bushy eyebrows or that a lot of Iranians don't have such eyebrows. To give you an example, Federer the Swiss tennis player has bushy eyebrows and has had his eyebrows plucked (or whatever they do these days).
As to your charge that Iran never got anywhere and the country is plagued with corruption (I'll address this below), I agree that the current regime has taken our country to a nadir. Yet Iran is historically a Great Power, never conquered by Europeans. I could list Iranian achievements in art, literature, science and philosophy which are undoubtedly impressive. Iran has also had several empires and certainly has nothing to be ashamed of in comparison to, say, Sweden. Even under this crackpot regime, Iran is currently growing at ~7%. Indeed, free from the shackled of Islamism, Iran was the fastest growing country in the world during the 1970s.
According to the Corruption Perceptions Index 2003 (http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~uwvw/corruption.cpi_2003.html), Iran is less corrupt than several so-called "white" countries including Russia, Ukraine and Serbia. Further, several "non-white" countries such as Japan and Botswana are less corrupt than many "white" countries.
I fail to see what being the world's worst drivers has to do with being "white". Doesn't this has more to do with the lack of enforcement of driving regulations or the safety standards of vehicles on the road? Someone could retort that Swedes could not be "white" because they are emotionally repressed (with one of the highest suicide rates in the world by the way). The conclusion does not logically follow from the fact.
Apparently you also think that some guy's opinions posted on an internet site (what human being worthy of admiration sets up an internet site about themself I am led to ask) are the word of God as regards Iran. Are you kidding me? Iranians do not starve and kick dogs as some kind of national hobby. Indeed, some of my family members own dogs. But let's assume that Iranians do go out of their way to torture dogs. If you think that starving and kicking dogs shows a country as uncivilised, then how is this less barbaric than, say, abortion in which a sentient human being is cut into pieces and placed in a plastic bag? Are Iranians more uncivilised in that case because they illegally kill animals whereas many "white" countries legally kill human beings (in Iran abortion is illegal by the way)?
A lot of the other gripes are either moot or indicative of the stupidity of the writer and certainly have no bearing on whether Iran should be detested. Take the differentiated pricing for Iranians and foreign tourists. Leaving aside the fact that this makes economic sense re efficiency (you charge what each person can afford so as to maximise the consumer surplus) and that "white" countries like Russia also have adopted differentiated pricing, you should be pleased to know that Iran has recently discontinued this practice (or at least it intends to). There are problems with transport in many countries, including developed ones like the United Kingdom, say. If the writer does not have the gumption to find a good restaurant that is his fault. Restaurants which offer food other than kababs do exist I assure you. Iran does not have a litter problem. Indeed, the Persian fascination with gardens is famous. In a country where water is scarce, Iranians truly value greenery. All the parks in Iran are immaculate and no animals are allowed in, unlike in Europe where you can find dog shit seemingly everywhere. I have seen significant amounts of rubbish in the streets of Paris, London and Los Angeles on my travels.
So, it seems, the sum total of your argument is that Iran is a detestable country because a man, who it appears often travels to the country and even likes it given his lament that it has been given a bad name, has a few gripes about it which he posts on the internet. This is how you prove your "superiority"? :D
Abzug Hoffman
July 13th, 2004, 05:39 PM
I will NEVER advocate the corruption of Euro bloodlines with a Non Euro, Non-White race which surrendered their purity thousands of years ago, all for the sake of "dissolving" them into our gene pool. This is not a med bashing post, far from it, I am fending off attacks from people that would insinuate that meds are somehow tainted with Arabs, niggers, and whatnot.
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/all_the_pretty_horses/penelope_cruz/horsespre2.jpg
This Spaniard has dark features, and apart from being beautiful she is White. There's no refutting that, she's a lovely WHITE meditteranean woman.
However this:
http://www.payvand.com/news/03/oct/poupeh1.jpg
IS NOT WHITE!! Heck, even Jews would be difficult to discern were it not for their names or in certain cases by their features. Do you think Hitler would need yellow stars to separate Iranians from Whites? Obviously Jews are worlds apart from Iranians in terms of looking White, so why don't we call them White as well?
These two girls look as alike as some sisters do, the ugly one who takes after jew grandpa and the pretty one who takes after the white Christian side of the family. That is why Meds have a hard time of it in the white race. A lot of them look like jews, who are also med, unless they have married enough generations of whites.
Abzug Hoffman
July 13th, 2004, 05:43 PM
These two girls look as alike as some sisters do, the ugly one who takes after jew grandpa and the pretty one who takes after the white Christian side of the family. That is why Meds have a hard time of it in the white race. A lot of them look like jews, who are also med, unless they have married enough generations of whites.
I'd slap yellow stars on both of them, just to be on the safe side.
I had no idea this thread would turn into yet another crapfest of multiracial bathing beaties and half jew actresses.
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 05:59 PM
I'd slap yellow stars on both of them, just to be on the safe side.
I had no idea this thread would turn into yet another crapfest of multiracial bathing beaties and half jew actresses.
You are an obvious moron to hint that Penelope Cruz is a Jew. On that same note I can show you a host of Jews that whom you'd never know were Jewish int he first place. Hitler didn't need yellow stars for nothing, stop kidding yourself here.
http://www.celebrity-exchange.com/celebs/photos25/penelope-cruz-3.jpg
That woman is as White as they come, and I'd wager my own life that they'd sooner find NW genes on you than they did on her.
As for Iranians being white. I have no freaking clue. There's only so much your eye will tell you, and what's more..."white" is not a concrete term. And it's not a scientific term. So I don't know.
"White" is a very definitive term, I'll make it simple since you have a hard time understanding: anyone of pure European genetic stock. Is that simple enough?
As for Italians and Spaniards being dark, I've yet to see one such "dark" Spaniard. Yes they might have golden, or "olive" undertones and tan a lot easier than Nordern Euros, but Meds endured evolution in the sweltering heat of the meditteranean basin, obviously they had to adapt to such unbearable climates, hence the easily tanable skin.
Europeans and Iranians might be similar to Whites genetically, but they are not of the same sub-race. The "White" race came to be in Europe after they migrated from Iran, so why should they be considered our equals anymore than mongoloids who we split from 40,000 years ago? Negroids and Australoids are also quite similar genetically, yet they fall under their own main distinctions.
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 06:18 PM
That is why Meds have a hard time of it in the white race. A lot of them look like jews, who are also med, unless they have married enough generations of whites.
Yes, and those disparaging myths about Mediterraneans are completely dumbfounded. If accurate history were any measure then Nordics-- who suffered repeat invasions by the mongols--should be the ones fending off those disgusting attacks on meds.
Anima Eternae
July 13th, 2004, 06:19 PM
Europeans and Iranians might be similar to Whites genetically, but they are not of the same sub-race. The "White" race came to be in Europe after they migrated from Iran, so why should they be considered our equals anymore than mongoloids who we split from 40,000 years ago? Negroids and Australoids are also quite similar genetically, yet they fall under their own main distinctions.
Well, I see your point, but how do explain the research by Piazza et all, showing this?
http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/GeneMap.jpg
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Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 06:23 PM
Why are swarthy Spaniards "white" yet pale Iranians not so?
There are no "swarthy" Spaniards. And even those "pale" Iranians have clear NW features such as BLACK eyes that you find on niggers.
Furthermore you are a real Idiot to indicate that the paleness of one's skin would determine whether they're White or not. There's Countless chinese people that are as pale as they come, with bright red lips, would you like us to consider them White also?
Kamangir42
July 13th, 2004, 06:28 PM
You are an obvious moron to hint that Penelope Cruz is a Jew. On that same note I can show you a host of Jews that whom you'd never know were Jewish int he first place. Hitler didn't need yellow stars for nothing, stop kidding yourself here.
http://www.celebrity-exchange.com/celebs/photos25/penelope-cruz-3.jpg
That woman is as White as they come, and I'd wager my own life that they'd sooner find NW genes on you than they did on her.
"White" is a very definitive term, I'll make it simple since you have a hard time understanding: anyone of pure European genetic stock. Is that simple enough?
As for Italians and Spaniards being dark, I've yet to see one such "dark" Spaniard. Yes they might have golden, or "olive" undertones and tan a lot easier than Nordern Euros, but Meds endured evolution in the sweltering heat of the meditteranean basin, obviously they had to adapt to such unbearable climates, hence the easily tanable skin.
Europeans and Iranians might be similar to Whites genetically, but they are not of the same sub-race. The "White" race came to be in Europe after they migrated from Iran, so why should they be considered our equals anymore than mongoloids who we split from 40,000 years ago? Negroids and Australoids are also quite similar genetically, yet they fall under their own main distinctions.
Well why use the term "white" when you can use pure European stock to describe yourselves? Why do you people need to use the word Aryan? Whether you call yourself Aryan or not has nothing to do with the fact that you are of pure European stock. In fact, Europeans never called themselves Aryan and your people didn't call themselves Aryan until the late nineteenth century. On the other hand, Iranians have been calling themselves Aryan since at least 500BCE. Who said Aryan meant "white" or pure European stock?
I wish Spaniards well. I like and admire your people. I agree Iranians are a distinct people and I have no intention of grafting myself onto Spaniards. But I will not stand by and hear Iranians being called Arabs and Mongols when there is no evidence that we are. You should note that the climate of Iran is much fiercer than it is in Spain and the site you yourself used says that skin colour is not a good indicator of race.
As for Penelope Cruz I think she is a very beautiful woman but I am surprised that you admire her so given that one of her previous boyfriends was Faiz Ahmad (sounds Arab or Pakistani). Also, my friends in Spain tell me that Penelope Cruz is intensely disliked in Spain (I distinctly remember her being called a slut and a bitch).
Anima Eternae
July 13th, 2004, 06:31 PM
In fact, Europeans never called themselves Aryan and your people didn't call themselves Aryan until the late nineteenth century. On the other hand, Iranians have been calling themselves Aryan since at least 500BCE. Who said Aryan meant "white" or pure European stock?
Indeed. I believe the phrase also appears in ancient India as well.
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Kamangir42
July 13th, 2004, 06:41 PM
There are no "swarthy" Spaniards. And even those "pale" Iranians have clear NW features such as BLACK eyes that you find on niggers.
Furthermore you are a real Idiot to indicate that the paleness of one's skin would determine whether they're White or not. There's Countless chinese people that are as pale as they come, with bright red lips, would you like us to consider them White also?
I too dislike the term "swarthy". But there are Spaniards who are darker in skin colour than other Spaniards. You may call it golden undertones or "olive" but the point still stands.
I don't think you have showed that Iranians have "NW" features. Nobody has black eyes (they're very dark brown). My eyes, for example, are no darker than Penelope Cruz's. A few members of my family have green eyes and a very few have blue. What are these other "NW" features? Besides, no Sub-Saharan African Y chromosome or mtDNA haplotypes have ever been detected in Persians.
I did not indicate that skin colour is an indicator of race. I argued that it wasn't and I posted a link confirming this in response to several remarks from you that Iranians are darker than Spaniards and could therefore not be "white" (not that I'm saying Iranians are "white").
Shapur
July 13th, 2004, 07:12 PM
Look girls and boys I don`t feel any needing that I discuss with you.
You also don`t need to prove your superiority to us Iranians.
About the term Aryan. It is wrong to say that only Iranians called their self Aryan. The Indo-Aryans did/do this the Aryan invaders of Europe did/do this.
The Romans and Greeks have serval Iranian tribes as direct ancestors.
Read the history of Greeks and Romans and you will read who they are and from which country they come from. It is Iran and not Europe.
Also we have enough genetic proofs that the people from Kurdistan, Zagros mountain and Elbrus have a genetic marker which is the same of all leader castes world wide! You will found these markers only under few IE tribes who share it beside their Aryan leaders!
Now I am to tired to write a long text but know one thing who will hate us Iranians must hate 30% of all Europeans because their bloodlines root directly in the Iranian highland.
:D
Btw I know enough about genetic and you don`t need to show me some evidences.
Bye :p
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 07:47 PM
In fact, Europeans never called themselves Aryan and your people didn't call themselves Aryan until the late nineteenth century. On the other hand, Iranians have been calling themselves Aryan since at least 500BCE. Who said Aryan meant "white" or pure European stock?
Frankly I don't like the term "Aryan", by my own limited knowledge I understand only unmixed pure Iranians to be Aryans. I don't believe Whites have ever used that term pre-Hitler, which I also believe means "noble". Nevertheless I prefer the term European or White, not Aryan.
Shapur
July 13th, 2004, 07:53 PM
Frankly I don't like the term "Aryan", by my own limited knowledge I understand only unmixed pure Iranians to be Aryans. I don't believe Whites have ever used that term pre-Hitler, which I also believe means "noble". Nevertheless I prefer the term European or White, not Aryan.
What is unpure and pure Iranian? Please explain it on genetical datas thx!
Anima Eternae
July 13th, 2004, 07:58 PM
Well, wouldn't unmixed Persians be "pure"?
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Shapur
July 13th, 2004, 08:04 PM
Well, wouldn't unmixed Persians be "pure"?
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I asked him for a genetical proof befor he will prove anything.
Persian is a word which I don`t use because I am an Iranian not an Persian.
Anima Eternae
July 13th, 2004, 08:11 PM
I asked him for a genetical proof befor he will prove anything.
Persian is a word which I don`t use because I am an Iranian not an Persian.
Uhm, Iranian is simply a nationality. Persian is the ethnicity. There are Azeri, Arabs, and Turks who are Iranian, as well.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ir.html
Look at the ethnicity sheet. Only 51% of Iran is Persian, and I believe the real numbers are quite lower.
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Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 08:13 PM
As for Penelope Cruz I think she is a very beautiful woman but I am surprised that you admire her so given that one of her previous boyfriends was Faiz Ahmad (sounds Arab or Pakistani). Also, my friends in Spain tell me that Penelope Cruz is intensely disliked in Spain (I distinctly remember her being called a slut and a bitch).
I dont hold her as a direct representation of the Spanish people, I only use her to exemplify what a pure Mediterranean phenotype is. As for myself I have clear blue eyes and I take it this would exempt me from being a "med" in the true sense of the word.As for Penelope's past sexual escapades with muds, yes they are true, but Nicole Kidman is in my opinion the quintessential Nordic beauty but she's sleeping with a vile nigger! Besides, Penelope seems to have wised up and she's with a White man now.
However this lady, as a noble White princess holds my allegiance and that of Spain:
http://estaticos.elmundo.es/especiales/2004/04/espana/bodareal/22m_albumes/imagenes/novia_rostro_afp.jpg
Shapur
July 13th, 2004, 08:14 PM
Uhm, Iranian is simply a nationality. Persian is the ethnicity. There are Azeri, Arabs, and Turks who are Iranian, as well.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ir.html
Look at the ethnicity sheet. Only 51% of Iran is Persian, and I believe the real numbers are quite lower.
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This CIA stuff is bullshit. This seperation of Iranians in different tribes is also bullshit. The difference between a Persian and a Kurd is that the Kurds live in the west and the Persians in the south and that both have two different tribe names. The rest is simmilar. They are one! The CIA statics are very strange.
I would guess Iran have 35% Persians but this is not imporant.
95% of Iranians are of Iranian stock this is important. Btw I am of Kurdish stock. :D
Kamangir42
July 13th, 2004, 08:16 PM
I will post some pictures of Iranians. None are models because I don't think they are necessarily representative of the population.
http://www.irna.ir/occasion/gover/khatami/gif/pic/zendegi.jpg
Mohammad Khatami (Iranian President)
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20021225/wd2.jpg
Khatami meeting Pakistani President Musharraf
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030125/ind2.jpg
Khatami meeting Indian Foreign Minister Singh
http://www.shiftyeye.com/images/madness/1002/Khamenei.jpg
http://www.sumka.org/images.2/mullah_khamenei1.jpg
Supreme Guide Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
http://iiarmy.topcities.com/shahstand.gif
Shah Mohammad Reza I Pahlavi
http://oud.refdag.nl/foto/010613konfo01.jpg
Empress Farah and Princess Leila
http://in.yimg.com/xp/reuters_ids_new/20031010/2885951543.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/June/Images/fr.jpg
Shirin Ebadi
http://www.iinavy.org/images/mirsepanj/takavar5.jpg
http://www.iinavy.org/images/mirsepanj/takavar2.jpg
http://www.iinavy.org/images/mirsepanj/takavar1.jpg
http://www.network54.com/Realm/momomomo/takavaran1.jpg
Takavaran (Iranian Naval Commandos)
http://network54.com/Realm/newIrannian/military1.jpg
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/2320/soldier.jpg
Iranian Army
http://www.worldnewsbulletin.com/images/19618.jpg
Iranian Air Force officers
Some more Iranians...
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/June/Images/pi.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/June/Images/gh.jpg
http://store2.yimg.com/I/eworldrecords_1795_173405
And, finally, the deserts of Iran where the "sand niggers" hang out...
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ancientpersia/images/iran.jpg
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 08:19 PM
Uhm, Iranian is simply a nationality. Persian is the ethnicity. There are Azeri, Arabs, and Turks who are Iranian, as well.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ir.html
Look at the ethnicity sheet. Only 51% of Iran is Persian, and I believe the real numbers are quite lower.
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Yes the CIA's data is well overstated, Puerto Rico is cited as being 80% White, and this is clearly false. The real number is closer to 2-3%, but PR's have a complete lack of racial Awareness. Jennifer Lopez and Erik Estrada(of "chips" fame) are considered White in that country, which inclines me to believe that simply having caucasoid hair deems you as "White".
Kamangir42
July 13th, 2004, 08:23 PM
I dont hold her as a direct representation of the Spanish people, I only use her to exemplify what a pure Mediterranean phenotype is. As for myself I have clear blue eyes and I take it this would exempt me from being a "med" in the true sense of the word.As for Penelope's past sexual escapades with muds, yes they are true, but Nicole Kidman is in my opinion the quintessential Nordic beauty but she's sleeping with a vile nigger! Besides, Penelope seems to have wised up and she's with a White man now.
However this lady, as a noble White princess holds my allegiance and that of Spain:
http://estaticos.elmundo.es/especiales/2004/04/espana/bodareal/22m_albumes/imagenes/novia_rostro_afp.jpg
She is a very nice lady (but I preferred Eva Sannum for obvious reasons :D ).
I think you should know that Nicole Kidman is Jewish so she might not be your ideal Nordic. ;)
By the way, you do know that the Spanish royal family is German don't you?
Are you Catalan?
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 08:27 PM
This CIA stuff is bullshit. This seperation of Iranians in different tribes is also bullshit. The difference between a Persian and a Kurd is that the Kurds live in the west and the Persians in the south and that both have two different tribe names. The rest is simmilar. They are one! The CIA statics are very strange.
I would guess Iran have 35% Persians but this is not imporant.
95% of Iranians are of Iranian stock this is important. Btw I am of Kurdish stock. :D
95%??? HA! Shigger you jest! For every Iranian with fair skin and light eyes I see 50 with pitch black eyes, thick black hair, and brown skin.
But you know, If Iran is so pure then why the commotion over their questioned Whiteness? Not even Europe is 95% homogeneous, so why would Iranians be in such a hurry to link themselves to an unpure race like Euro's? Heck you Iranians should be guarding your bloodlines with your lives, why blur the lines to make it easier to assimilate yourselves into our gene pool?
Anima Eternae
July 13th, 2004, 08:29 PM
Brown eyes are terribly boring, but I like brown hair. It's a shame those two tend to go together, though.
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Shapur
July 13th, 2004, 08:29 PM
95%??? HA! Shigger you jest! For every Iranian with fair skin and light eyes I see 50 with pitch black eyes, thick black hair, and brown skin.
But you know, If Iran is so pure then why the commotion over their questioned Whiteness? Not even Europe is 95% homogeneous, so why would Iranians be in such a hurry to link themselves to an unpure race like Euro's? Heck you Iranians should be guarding your bloodlines with your lives, why blur the lines to make it easier to assimilate yourselves into our gene pool?
What has skin/hair color to do with race. Sure are some Iranians in the south tanned but this is not brown. Brown is when you look like a Nigger.
Befor you claiming here more non-sense stuff please bring me some gentic studies who support your claims! :D
Shapur
July 13th, 2004, 08:33 PM
On phyisical anthropological view these are Iranians:
http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/gentilitas/database/racetypes.html?plate=plate18.jpg
http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/gentilitas/database/racetypes.html?plate=plate42.jpg
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 08:40 PM
She is a very nice lady (but I preferred Eva Sannum for obvious reasons :D ).
I think you should know that Nicole Kidman is Jewish so she might not be your ideal Nordic. ;)
Nicole Kidman Jewish? what's your source for this? But like I said, "Jew" in certain cases is to be taken as a religious distinction rather than a racial one. Alicia Silverstone is also a Jew yet she is racially White. And no I'm not catalan, my family is from Granada (southeast of Córdoba).
Fredrik Haerne
July 13th, 2004, 08:43 PM
Note that I do not claim to be "white" nor am I a WN. As such I have no interest in trying to pull the wool over your eyes as it were. But I have to take issue with some of your comments.
First, I see that you cannot give a simple definition of the so-called "white" race.
Don't be ridiculous, we all know who is White. To split hairs, point to every border example that can be found, and twist and turn words is an old Marxist trick used to attack through language. No use trying that game here: don't you think we Whites know who is White? Don't make me laugh.
And if you're not a WN, I'd say you're in the wrong forum. This is a White Nationalist forum, in case that isn't clear.
What proof do you have that Iranians were miscegenated (you like this word don't you?)
Sorry, I can tell I hurt your feelings there. What proof? You're swarthy darklings, enough said. Like Hitler wrote, the masters mixed with their slaves, and so we lost our territory, leaving muddy Arabs and Persians in our place.
Now let's address your seeming obsession with facial hair.
Obsession? *L*
I see you are trying to build a "strawman": exaggerate your opponent's views in order to make them easier to attack.
It appears that you think facial hair (in this case bushy eyebrows) is a "non-white" characteristic. Yet, as far as I know, Mongoloids and Negroids have a dearth of facial and body hair. So, by your reasoning, the closer you are to Negroids and Mongoloids the more "white" you are.
*ROTFLOL* Wow! Sounds just like a Jew's way of reasoning! I see where you have learned your lessons.
Iran has also had several empires and certainly has nothing to be ashamed of in comparison to, say, Sweden.
I doubt you know enough about Sweden to make comparisons, dear. And how is it almost everybody on the planet would prefer to live in Sweden instead of Iran? Chucks, how many Swedes move to Iran? Not many. How many Iranian muds move to Sweden? Many, causing the same problems as the rest of the non-Whites. For this crime you all deserve to hang; the world won't miss you.
The only good thing with Iran is that it's run by hardcore Islamists. They will always be a thorn in the Jew's side -- excellent! What else would we have Arabs and Iranians for? And it is clear that mud countries need a hard, tough government to impose a modicum of decency, lest they start behaving like wild animals. All hail fanatic Islamists.
Iran is less corrupt than several so-called "white" countries including Russia, Ukraine and Serbia.
Wow, mentioning the ex-commie states -- nice comparison. Less corrupt than any Germanic countries? Didn't think so.
I fail to see what being the world's worst drivers has to do with being "white".
Nothing, Iranians are not White.
Someone could retort that Swedes could not be "white" because they are emotionally repressed (with one of the highest suicide rates in the world by the way).
Oh, please. Why don't you tell me all Swedes are blonde too, and that we have polar bears in the streets? Those three seem to be the only stories foreigners have ever heard about Sweden. Let me guess, you got it from a Hollywood movie, right? No surprise. And we also have a massage tradition, and we say "yaa", and there is such a thing as "Swedish meatballs", right? :rolleyes:
Apparently you also think that some guy's opinions posted on an internet site (what human being worthy of admiration sets up an internet site about themself I am led to ask) are the word of God as regards Iran.
No, you are building a strawman again. *yawn*
Same when you say "But let's assume Iranians go out of their way to torture dogs" -- of course I never said "go out of your way," but by exaggerating you make it easier to attack. Clever fellow.
So, it seems, the sum total of your argument is that Iran is a detestable country because a man, who it appears often travels to the country and even likes it given his lament that it has been given a bad name, has a few gripes about it which he posts on the internet.
Nope, I simply looked that up while writing the post. Ouch, did you really think that homepage was what I have been basing my writings on all along? Poor dear.
And now for the keeper:
This is how you prove your "superiority"?
The true sign of the filthy anti-White: to talk about White Nationalists as "supremacists," and "haters," and to always, always bring up the words "superior" and "inferior". WNs themselves never say they are "superior", it is only an expression used in Jewish movies to make WNs sound like cartoon-Nazists.
Is there something else you have learned from the Jew movies that you want to share with us? Something about evil Germans perhaps? Or snobby British, or ignorant, fat and lazy Americans? Come on, write yourself straight to the Opposition Forum where you belong.
Anima Eternae
July 13th, 2004, 08:47 PM
Someone could retort that Swedes could not be "white" because they are emotionally repressed (with one of the highest suicide rates in the world by the way).
Sweden and Iceland's suicide rates have to do with the weather (lack of sunlight many months).
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Shapur
July 13th, 2004, 08:47 PM
Don't be ridiculous, we all know who is White. To split hairs, point to every border example that can be found, and twist and turn words is an old Marxist trick used to attack through language. No use trying that game here: don't you think we Whites know who is White? Don't make me laugh.
And if you're not a WN, I'd say you're in the wrong forum. This is a White Nationalist forum, in case that isn't clear.
Sorry, I can tell I hurt your feelings there. What proof? You're swarthy darklings, enough said. Like Hitler wrote, the masters mixed with their slaves, and so we lost our territory, leaving muddy Arabs and Persians in our place.
Obsession? *L*
I see you are trying to build a "strawman": exaggerate your opponent's views in order to make them easier to attack.
*ROTFLOL* Wow! Sounds just like a Jew's way of reasoning! I see where you have learned your lessons.
I doubt you know enough about Sweden to make comparisons, dear. And how is it almost everybody on the planet would prefer to live in Sweden instead of Iran? Chucks, how many Swedes move to Iran? Not many. How many Iranian muds move to Sweden? Many, causing the same problems as the rest of the non-Whites. For this crime you all deserve to hang; the world won't miss you.
The only good thing with Iran is that it's run by hardcore Islamists. They will always be a thorn in the Jew's side -- excellent! What else would we have Arabs and Iranians for? And it is clear that mud countries need a hard, tough government to impose a modicum of decency, lest they start behaving like wild animals. All hail fanatic Islamists.
Wow, mentioning the ex-commie states -- nice comparison. Less corrupt than any Germanic countries? Didn't think so.
Nothing, Iranians are not White.
Oh, please. Why don't you tell me all Swedes are blonde too, and that we have polar bears in the streets? Those three seem to be the only stories foreigners have ever heard about Sweden. Let me guess, you got it from a Hollywood movie, right? No surprise. And we also have a massage tradition, and we say "yaa", and there is such a thing as "Swedish meatballs", right? :rolleyes:
No, you are building a strawman again. *yawn*
Same when you say "But let's assume Iranians go out of their way to torture dogs" -- of course I never said "go out of your way," but by exaggerating you make it easier to attack. Clever fellow.
Nope, I simply looked that up while writing the post. Ouch, did you really think that homepage was what I have been basing my writings on all along? Poor dear.
And now for the keeper:
The true sign of the filthy anti-White: to talk about White Nationalists as "supremacists," and "haters," and to always, always bring up the words "superior" and "inferior". WNs themselves never say they are "superior", it is only an expression used in Jewish movies to make WNs sound like cartoon-Nazists.
Is there something else you have learned from the Jew movies that you want to share with us? Something about evil Germans perhaps? Or snobby British, or ignorant, fat and lazy Americans? Come on, write yourself straight to the Opposition Forum where you belong.
Du kleiner Trottel hast keine Argumente. Würdest du ordentlich diskutieren würde die ganze Sache anders aussehen. Übrigens habt ihr Schweden nicht selber 15-20% iranisches Blut? Demnach seid ihr doch Negroide Säue wie die Iraner. Du bist eine Lachnummer des Wortes nicht wert. :D
Kamangir42
July 13th, 2004, 08:51 PM
Uhm, Iranian is simply a nationality. Persian is the ethnicity. There are Azeri, Arabs, and Turks who are Iranian, as well.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ir.html
Look at the ethnicity sheet. Only 51% of Iran is Persian, and I believe the real numbers are quite lower.
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In Iran, nobody describes themselves as Persian. Persian basically means Iranian proper (Iranian stock, Farsi language) or Great Iranian in the sense that proper Russians used to be described as Great Russians while related peoples like the Belarussians were called White Russians.
There are several groups which the Persians would consider as close (but not identical) brethren. These include the Gilaki, Mazandarani and Kords. Sometimes the Lor and Bakhtiari are also considered as brethren but not as close I don't think (they are often viewed with suspicion as they are tribesmen and historical events). There is a recognition that Baluchis are related to Persians but they are viewed with suspicion because they have probably mixed somewhat with non-Iranian people.
The Arabs and Turkmen are definitely not regarded as brethren of the Persians (but these people are probably still largely Iranian though with significant admixture). The Azaris are more complicated. Some view them as brethren; others do not. IMO they are Persians with slight Oghuz Turk admixture (perhaps on the order of 5-10%, say). We're looking at a classical Turkish elite imposing its dominance on a Persian populace I think in Azarbaijan.
As for the accuracy of the CIA figures, note that they have a vested interest in making the Persians look as weak as possible (they fund opposition groups like SANAM which seeks Azari independence). So perhaps the figures are too low even. Also, if the claims of the minorities in Iran were taken into account Persians wouldn't even make up 5% of the population. :D So you have to take that with a pinch of salt. Also, places like Gilan can maintain highly concentrated populations whereas the mountainous areas are populated less sparsely.
If I were pushed to come up (using the CIA figures) with the proportion of true Iranians, or Aryans if you want to call it that, I would calculate as follows. At the least, being very strict, I would say that the Persians (51%), Gilakis and Mazandaranis (8) and Kords (7%) were Aryan (66%). Perhaps 5% are not pure leaving 61%. A medium estimate, probably followed by most Persians, would include the Lors and Bakhtiari (5%) and this would leave (taking out the unpure) the Aryan population at about 66%. Now if you were to include the Azari who have no Turkic admixture (22%) this would come to 90%. Some Baluchis may be pure Iranian too but their numbers are so small that it would not change the figure much.
In short, I would say that at least 60% of Iranians are of pure Iranian stock but this may range as high as 90%.
Nordblod
July 13th, 2004, 08:55 PM
Du kleiner Trottel hast keine Argumente. Würdest du ordentlich diskutieren würde die ganze Sache anders aussehen. Übrigens habt ihr Schweden nicht selber 15-20% iranisches Blut? Demnach seid ihr doch Negroide Säue wie die Iraner. Du bist eine Lachnummer des Wortes nicht wert. :D
Eller hur.
Fredrik Haerne
July 13th, 2004, 08:59 PM
Nordblod, don't mock him when he's too scared of speaking English. He needs to work through this on his own.
Shapur
July 13th, 2004, 09:00 PM
No! I think so: Iran - 70 million people
35% Persians
15% Azeris
15% Kurds
10% Lors
10% Gilakis
5% Balutches
5% other small Iranian tribes
5% non-Iranians
The Kurds/Persians/Azeris/Lors/Gilakis/Balutches are mostly pure Caucasoid from 95%(Balutches) to 100%(Kurds).
The Azeris come from the Talyshians an Iranian tribe which is 4-5 million tall.
The Talyshians are Medians like Kurds.
But numbers are not important all people in Iran see their self Iranian this is important. Myself would say 90% of Iranians are pure Caucasoid. 10% are mixed Caucasoid or of other subtypes.
The Iranians are in genetical sense a very pure nation.
:D
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 09:01 PM
On phyisical anthropological view these are Iranians:
http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/gentilitas/database/racetypes.html?plate=plate18.jpg
http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/gentilitas/database/racetypes.html?plate=plate42.jpg
Ask yourself this: would any sane White person confuse one of their European brothers for this:
http://img64.photobucket.com/albums/v195/aryanpride/plate18.jpg
http://img64.photobucket.com/albums/v195/aryanpride/plate42.jpg
Fredrik Haerne
July 13th, 2004, 09:05 PM
*sigh* For the ignorant darklings whose posts are not favored by fact-checking, here are a few countries with higher suicide rates than Sweden:
Lithuania, Russia, Belarus, Latvia, Estonia, Hungary, Slovenia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Finland, Denmark, Austria, France, Switzerland, Japan.
And that's just how far I had the urge to check. Now let's see what other lies/mistakes Kamratgi has in store for us, shall we?
Shapur
July 13th, 2004, 09:09 PM
@Vivaodio: They are pure Meds with Alpine/Nordic admixture.
I said facial structure but you use everything for your non-sense propaganda.
Btw the most of them are Armenians. ;)
Shapur
July 13th, 2004, 09:11 PM
Haplotype Similarity Between 24 Eurasian Population
Greek (76) Population (People) Similarity in %
Albanian (51) 83%
Calabrian (37) 69%
Lebanese (31) 69%
Czech and Slovakian (45) 62%
Macedonian (20) 61%
Turkish (30) 59%
Centralnorthern Italian (50) 58%
French (23) 58%
Syrian (20) 58%
Andalusian (29) 52%
Georgian (63) 50%
German (16) 48%
Hungarian (45) 48%
Croatian (58) 44%
Dutch (27) 43%
Catalan (24) 43%
Polish (55) 40%
Udmurt (43) 36%
Ukrainian (50) 36%
Spanish Basque (49) 33%
French Basque (22) 32%
Sardinian (77) 26%
Saami (24) 24%
Mari (46) 17%
Kamangir42
July 13th, 2004, 09:14 PM
Nicole Kidman Jewish? what's your source for this? But like I said, "Jew" in certain cases is to be taken as a religious distinction rather than a racial one. Alicia Silverstone is also a Jew yet she is racially White. And no I'm not catalan, my family is from Granada (southeast of Córdoba).
Well, this is what I have read. Some people at Stormfront were saying she was Jewish. Others disagreed. Nobody really knows. But I have seen Nordic-looking Jews so that's no bar. Also, her name sounds kind of Jewish.
If you are Jewish then you cannot be racially "white". You could be a mix of Ashkenazic (or Sephardic) and "white" though. I don't put much credence in the Khazar theory but let's not get into that.
Kamangir42
July 13th, 2004, 09:40 PM
*sigh* For the ignorant darklings whose posts are not favored by fact-checking, here are a few countries with higher suicide rates than Sweden:
Lithuania, Russia, Belarus, Latvia, Estonia, Hungary, Slovenia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Finland, Denmark, Austria, France, Switzerland, Japan.
And that's just how far I had the urge to check. Now let's see what other lies/mistakes Kamratgi has in store for us, shall we?
I wrote that Sweden had one of the highest rates of suicide in the world. I did not say it had the highest rate of suicide in the world. Please learn to read what I write rather than make it up as you go along. For comparison, the figures I have suggest that the suicide rate is about half of that of Sweden in the USA and about 1/3 in the England/Wales. Sweden may not have the highest suicide rate but there is still a very serious problem, no?
http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Suter/med-lit/g10.gif
http://www.mcdl.org/Stats/gnpsuicide.htm
Further, the suicide rate was significantly higher a few years ago. From Sweden's Public Health Report 2001 (http://192.137.163.34/FULLTEXT/111/2001-111-2/Summary.htm):
The frequency of suicide continues to decrease and during the past two decades suicide mortality has decreased by 38 per cent for both sexes. Suicide is commoner among men: during 1998 three times as many men as women committed suicide. On the other hand, suicide attempts are commoner among women than among men.
My linking the suicide rate with the emotional repression of Swedes comes from a BBC documentary that I watched a couple of years ago. It's a big problem in the rest of the Scandinavian countries and Finalnd too.
If you do have to resort to name-calling like a savage Arab or Turk the I will take it as an admission of your inferiority.
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 09:45 PM
Well, this is what I have read. Some people at Stormfront were saying she was Jewish. Others disagreed. Nobody really knows. But I have seen Nordic-looking Jews so that's no bar. Also, her name sounds kind of Jewish.
If you are Jewish then you cannot be racially "white". You could be a mix of Ashkenazic (or Sephardic) and "white" though. I don't put much credence in the Khazar theory but let's not get into that.
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/the_others/nicole_kidman/otherspre.jpg
I don't think any WN would hold it against her if she had a miniscule percentage of Sephardic or Ashkenazi. Even though as Nordic as she is you'd be hardpressed to believe it to be true. Most Jews are already mixed with Nords so I don't see how It'd make much of a difference, and Jews- though parisitic and filthy, are not dysgenic.
diabloblanco92
July 13th, 2004, 09:47 PM
You are only part-White, so you obviously have a vested interest in fuzzying up the term a little. This is why we can accept financial support from non-Whites and the miscegenated, if they feel inclined to give it, but we must never accept them into our nationalist parties and organizations. As soon as we do they will start trying to lower the bar for more of their own kind.
You are right in assuming that the vast majority of "biracial" people want the whole world to share their fate, or at least thats what the loudmouthed ones say. However I think AE has been quite explicit and honest in saying that he DOES NOT want to mix with fullblooded Whites or Asians.but merely wants tostay among Eurasians, and is even quite willing, nay eager, to accept a seperate homeland for people such as himself.
So in his instance I really don't think AE wants to fuzz up racial definions, much the opposite.He shares much of our goals, without demanding our genes, which we cannot spare. I think his position is a very noble and reasonable one.
I agree with your observations concerning truly mixed people.However the scientific evidence does not indicate that most Iranians fall into such a classification. We must not substitute social convention for reason and the laws of nature. If an investigation of ones racial background, when compared against known racial traits, indicates that one falls within our race, we cannot and must not allow social conventions, religion, custom or anything elase to stand in the way of claiming such people for our own. Needless to say, the person involved must5 also want to be claimed, but that is no less true for Iranians, Englishmen, Germans, Italians, etc
Of course, if you personally wish to confine your choice of sexual or romantic partners to a particular group of Whites rather than Whites in general, that is your absolute natural right.
It is also the natural and sovereign right of all White nations to govern their own immigration policies, as long as those polices exclude Non-Whites. I NEVER said one word to the contrary, and those who claim I do are either being dishonest, or not carefully reading my writings.
diablo
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 09:52 PM
I wrote that Sweden had one of the highest rates of suicide in the world. I did not say it had the highest rate of suicide in the world. Please learn to read what I write rather than make it up as you go along. For comparison, the figures I have suggest that the suicide rate is about half of that of Sweden in the USA and about 1/3 in the England/Wales. Sweden may not have the highest suicide rate but there is still a very serious problem, no?
http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Suter/med-lit/g10.gif
http://www.mcdl.org/Stats/gnpsuicide.htm
Further, the suicide rate was significantly higher a few years ago. From Sweden's Public Health Report 2001 (http://192.137.163.34/FULLTEXT/111/2001-111-2/Summary.htm):
My linking the suicide rate with the emotional repression of Swedes comes from a BBC documentary that I watched a couple of years ago. It's a big problem in the rest of the Scandinavian countries and Finalnd too.
If you do have to resort to name-calling like a savage Arab or Turk the I will take it as an admission of your inferiority.
Just how is a high suicide rate a resemblance of the overall degeneracy of a country? Japan has a very high suicide rate yet it's an economic powerhouse at number 2 in the world, second only to the US.
Anima Eternae
July 13th, 2004, 09:54 PM
I don't think any WN would hold it against her if she had a miniscule percentage of Sephardic or Ashkenazi.
You'd be a bit suprised... ;)
Even though as Nordic as she is you'd be hardpressed to believe it to be true. Most Jews are already mixed with Nords so I don't see how It'd make much of a difference, and Jews- though parisitic and filthy, are not dysgenic.
The average ashkenazi does not fall into "european" groups. But yes, you're right, they assimilate quite often. But many times, it's very obvious to tell someone is jewish. The phenotype has not been lost (neither has the genotype, hence the ability to detect them).
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15828.jpg
Sephardic jews are even farther away. Ash = Ashkenazi on the chart.
diablo
Thanks for your kind words. Unfortunately, my desires are but a pipedream drowned...nay, quashed with political correctness and "multiculturalism". I honestly do hope WNs succeed sometime in the future...
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diabloblanco92
July 13th, 2004, 09:58 PM
Yes the CIA's data is well overstated, Puerto Rico is cited as being 80% White, and this is clearly false. The real number is closer to 2-3%, but PR's have a complete lack of racial Awareness. Jennifer Lopez and Erik Estrada(of "chips" fame) are considered White in that country, which inclines me to believe that simply having caucasoid hair deems you as "White".
Oh come on, 2-3% is absurd. That would be right for El Salvador, not PR. PR is about 50% White, yes sadly the CIA figures are exxagerated, but not by that much. !00 yearsago 80% was probably accurate before the filthy multinationals destroyed the White Jibaro peasantry in the mountains of PR by creating Mulato dominated plantations and bringing in 500000 Dominicans. Even Arthur Kemp holds that PR is 10% White.you are way off on all these things.
Kamangir42
July 13th, 2004, 10:04 PM
Just how is a high suicide rate a resemblance of the overall degeneracy of a country? Japan has a very high suicide rate yet it's an economic powerhouse at number 2 in the world, second only to the US.
All I said was that the Swedes have a serious problem with communicating their emotions and this is manifested in a high suicide rate. I would not call it "degeneracy"; that is your choice of word. How would you define "degeneracy"?
As for Japan, they have been having serious economic problems, manifested by a lack of growth and what some economists would call a "liquidity trap", for more than a decade now. In Japan, men cannot face the shame of returning home to their family after losing their job (some even go and live in a tent in the park!). Moreover, life is very expensive in Japan.
And you are also forgetting that material and emotional fulfilment are not one and the same thing.
diabloblanco92
July 13th, 2004, 10:06 PM
Oh come on, 2-3% is absurd. That would be right for El Salvador, not PR. PR is about 50% White, yes sadly the CIA figures are exxagerated, but not by that much. !00 yearsago 80% was probably accurate before the filthy multinationals destroyed the White Jibaro peasantry in the mountains of PR by creating Mulato dominated plantations and bringing in 500000 Dominicans. Even Arthur Kemp holds that PR is 10% White.you are way off on all these things.
THats the whole point. NWO has planned for the White Aryan Iranians in Zagros just what it did to the White Jibaros in PR....destruction by globalist culture and the immigration of Non-White filth. Dominican Mulatos in PR, and Non-White Arabs, Pakis, and even Sudanese in Iran.
"Euros only" WN is one of the greatest weapons of NWO. It allows NWO to destroy Whites in the Mid-East, Central Asia and Latin America with impunity by denying them there identity as Whites and swindling them into thinking they are part of a colored "Third World" and tricking them and Euro-Whites into hating each other.
However Pan Aryanism will foil these fiends and bring ALL Whites into one invincible united front to recover all our homelands.past and present NO COMPROMISE!
VISHWANTU KRINYAM ARYAM
diabloblanco92
diabloblanco92
July 13th, 2004, 10:13 PM
Just how is a high suicide rate a resemblance of the overall degeneracy of a country? Japan has a very high suicide rate yet it's an economic powerhouse at number 2 in the world, second only to the US.
Its not so coorelated. But notice the concentration among the Norse countries and Japan. What do these countries have in common? Warrior peoples whose natural culture has been repressed by artifical social constructs.post bWW@ "Democracy" in Japan, and beureucratic socialism and liberal Christianity in the Norse countries.
The Slavic countries seem a special case not related to this, since high rates of alcoholism are probably responsible for their high suicide rates.
diablo
Fredrik Haerne
July 13th, 2004, 10:24 PM
I wrote that Sweden had one of the highest rates of suicide in the world. I did not say it had the highest rate of suicide in the world. Please learn to read what I write rather than make it up as you go along. For comparison, the figures I have suggest that the suicide rate is about half of that of Sweden in the USA and about 1/3 in the England/Wales. Sweden may not have the highest suicide rate but there is still a very serious problem, no?
Uh? I showed fifteen countries that have a higher suicide rate: those are only among the ones I bothered to research, there are probably more. How can you still claim Sweden has "among the highest" suicide rates? Not that I see what point you're trying to make with that, except possibly as a barb in lack of any better material. I could come up with much better stuff to gleefully accuse Sweden of if I wanted to.
"there is still a very serious problem, no?" No, there isn't. Suicide is not a hot issue, it's never mentioned as a "serious problem." The only time you hear about the comparison of suicide rates is when we are pissed off at stupid foreigners who think that "Sweden has the highest suicide rate in the world" because they have heard that through some Hollywood movie. It's official: aside from our neighbors and Germany, people don't have a clue what Sweden is like. Then again, most people in the world are lemmings, so I shouldn't be surprised. And in case anyone were wondering, we don't have polar bears in the streets, although that is something you can fool stupid Australians with for a few laughs.
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 10:26 PM
PR is about 50% White,
LOL you are one delusional being, have you ever been to Philadelphia? New York? Certain neighborhoods of New Jersey? Have you ever been to a Puerto Rican parade? Puerto Ricans are only marginally less negroid than Dominicans. Don't deny that Jennifer Lopez and other mixed PR's like Marc Anthony are deemed just as White as anyone else in that country, in facts that's for the most part as less NW as they get. Seeing as you like to salvage for White genes in notorious NW populations I can understand why you'd put out this blatant lie.
Having visited PR, my own estimation will stand, Out of 100 PR's you'll be lucky to find 2 or 3 with less than 5% negroe. Barring that they were Aristocrats I would also take their family members into consideration.
These types account for 97% of all Puerto Ricans I've seen:
http://www.boricua.com/prparade2003/parade/page1/images/MVC-514S_JPG.jpg
http://www.boricua.com/prparade2003/parade/page3/images/MVC-620S_JPG.jpg
http://www.boricua.com/prparade2003/parade/page3/images/MVC-635S_JPG.jpg
http://www.boricua.com/prparade2003/festival/images/MVC-433F_JPG.jpg
http://www.boricua.com/prparade2003/parade/page4/images/MVC-738S_JPG.jpg
diabloblanco92
July 13th, 2004, 10:34 PM
I will post some pictures of Iranians. None are models because I don't think they are necessarily representative of the population.
http://www.irna.ir/occasion/gover/khatami/gif/pic/zendegi.jpg
Mohammad Khatami (Iranian President)
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20021225/wd2.jpg
Khatami meeting Pakistani President Musharraf
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030125/ind2.jpg
Khatami meeting Indian Foreign Minister Singh
http://www.shiftyeye.com/images/madness/1002/Khamenei.jpg
http://www.sumka.org/images.2/mullah_khamenei1.jpg
Supreme Guide Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
http://iiarmy.topcities.com/shahstand.gif
Shah Mohammad Reza I Pahlavi
http://oud.refdag.nl/foto/010613konfo01.jpg
Empress Farah and Princess Leila
http://in.yimg.com/xp/reuters_ids_new/20031010/2885951543.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/June/Images/fr.jpg
Shirin Ebadi
http://www.iinavy.org/images/mirsepanj/takavar5.jpg
http://www.iinavy.org/images/mirsepanj/takavar2.jpg
http://www.iinavy.org/images/mirsepanj/takavar1.jpg
http://www.network54.com/Realm/momomomo/takavaran1.jpg
Takavaran (Iranian Naval Commandos)
http://network54.com/Realm/newIrannian/military1.jpg
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/2320/soldier.jpg
Iranian Army
http://www.worldnewsbulletin.com/images/19618.jpg
Iranian Air Force officers
Some more Iranians...
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/June/Images/pi.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/June/Images/gh.jpg
http://store2.yimg.com/I/eworldrecords_1795_173405
And, finally, the deserts of Iran where the "sand niggers" hang out...
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ancientpersia/images/iran.jpg
Note the contrast between Khatami and Musharraf and Singh. Khatami is pure Aryan White while the other 2 are Dravid/Aryan Mongrels, largely Dravid. To ignore these distinctions and pretend that everyone East of The Agrean is a "Mud" is absurd. Never trust any doctrine that demands you ignore the clear evidence of your eyes and mind.
diablo
diabloblanco92
July 13th, 2004, 10:45 PM
LOL you are one delusional being, have you ever been to Philadelphia? New York? Certain neighborhoods of New Jersey? Have you ever been to a Puerto Rican parade? Puerto Ricans are only marginally less negroid than Dominicans. Don't deny that Jennifer Lopez and other mixed PR's like Marc Anthony are deemed just as White as anyone else in that country, in facts that's for the most part as less NW as they get. Seeing as you like to salvage for White genes in notorious NW populations I can understand why you'd put out this blatant lie.
Having visited PR, my own estimation will stand, Out of 100 PR's you'll be lucky to find 2 or 3 with less than 5% negroe. Barring that they were Aristocrats I would also take their family members into consideration.
These types account for 97% of all Puerto Ricans I've seen:
http://www.boricua.com/prparade2003/parade/page1/images/MVC-514S_JPG.jpg
http://www.boricua.com/prparade2003/parade/page3/images/MVC-620S_JPG.jpg
http://www.boricua.com/prparade2003/parade/page3/images/MVC-635S_JPG.jpg
http://www.boricua.com/prparade2003/festival/images/MVC-433F_JPG.jpg
http://www.boricua.com/prparade2003/parade/page4/images/MVC-738S_JPG.jpg
I have been to every city in the NY NJ area and am VERY familiar with every neighborhood in NYC.I am a native New Yorker and know this area like the back of my hand Its well known that PR day parades attract nothing but Negro and Mulato riff raff, often Dominicans trying to pass as PRs.
Most of the White PRs in the US have merged inauspiciously into the rest of the White population. The ones left behind in so called PR neighborhoods are mostly dreK.
For example Dover NJ and Perth Amboy NJ have for deces had large PR populations,largely White through the 80s. After 1990 these places became devastated by an invasion of Dominicans, and other NW drek, including some out and out "American"Blacks The White PRs mostly fled to the burbs, some of those who did not were lost to the "Hip-Hop " inspired wave of racemixing, and the poisionious "Latino"BS which tries to trick White Hispanics into thinking they have some mystical connection with every Negro, Indio, Zambo, Mestizo and Mulato
diablo
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 10:52 PM
It allows NWO to destroy Whites in the Mid-East, Central Asia and Latin America
Asia and the Mid-east I could care less because despite how much you want us to think they are, those people are not White. South America is a different issue, don't you dare group them with those black-eyed Iranian shitskins. My girlfriend is Argentinian and White, though Latin America as a whole has a very small White population in proportion to the NW one, there are still White people and in some countries like Argentina and uruguay they are the majority! The South American Whites are Europeans,Iranians are not. I don't see why you have to be told so much that Europe always has and always will be the ancestral homeland of ONLY the White race. Call Iranians "aryan" if you wish, but "White" they are not and will never be accepted as such.
diabloblanco92
July 13th, 2004, 11:22 PM
Asia and the Mid-east I could care less because despite how much you want us to think they are, those people are not White. South America is a different issue, don't you dare group them with those black-eyed Iranian shitskins. My girlfriend is Argentinian and White, though Latin America as a whole has a very small White population in proportion to the NW one, there are still White people and in some countries like Argentina and uruguay they are the majority! The South American Whites are Europeans,Iranians are not. I don't see why you have to be told so much that Europe always has and always will be the ancestral homeland of ONLY the White race. Call Iranians "aryan" if you wish, but "White" they are not and will never be accepted as such.
My ex fiancee was Argentinian, my present GF is Iranian-Irish,and I can say that while there are many Whites in Latin America, Only Argentina and Uruguay can be considered in the same racial league as Iran, and candidly, as Iranians are not under any delusions about having cultural kinship with muds the way many White Latin Americans are, Id put my money on Iran, though I am sure we can save the Whites in Latin America too .
Sorry, but Aryans were never exclusively European,and it is certain that the Aryan migrations were from east to west and not the other way around.
I have no problem with eyes of any color including black (I think black eyes on pale skinned White are beautiful) because White Aryans come in ALL hair and eye colors.
diablo
Shapur
July 14th, 2004, 07:18 AM
My ex fiancee was Argentinian, my present GF is Iranian-Irish,and I can say that while there are many Whites in Latin America, Only Argentina and Uruguay can be considered in the same racial league as Iran, and candidly, as Iranians are not under any delusions about having cultural kinship with muds the way many White Latin Americans are, Id put my money on Iran, though I am sure we can save the Whites in Latin America too .
Sorry, but Aryans were never exclusively European,and it is certain that the Aryan migrations were from east to west and not the other way around.
I have no problem with eyes of any color including black (I think black eyes on pale skinned White are beautiful) because White Aryans come in ALL hair and eye colors.
diablo
Diablo let him, he can not accept the real facts because this would destroy his weltanschauung. :)
Abzug Hoffman
July 14th, 2004, 09:08 AM
Diablo let him, he can not accept the real facts because this would destroy his weltanschauung. :)
White nations: Britain, Canada, USA, Australia, Christian European countries. That's it. Of course, Britain began to go darkie in the 50s, USA in the 60s and the rest are being invaded right now.
diabloblanco92
July 14th, 2004, 07:00 PM
Diablo let him, he can not accept the real facts because this would destroy his weltanschauung. :)
Ja, you are right mein freund. I will let him go. Its is the same problem with so many, their weltanschung is more important than the salvation of our race.
diablo
leondegrelle
July 18th, 2004, 06:01 PM
I read Diablo's bullshit and had to register to comment. Dude, weltenschaung is for REAL white people, wherever they live. Your idea of a white man is based on a broad historical definition of "ARYAN". By your definition, half the blueberry pickers in South Jersey would be considered "ARYAN".
Let's make a deal. We'll let you keep posting here amongst white people, and we'll make you the Director of Landscaping and Menial Labor. You army of darkie "ARYAN" wannabe's can cut our grass and work our steel mills in return for a bowl of corn meal a day. Deal?
Aquila Aquilonis
July 20th, 2004, 07:54 AM
Also who read the old works of ancient poets and historicans know that both the Greeks and the Romans "which are called from the European! Union as the base of the European nation" are from serval IRANIAN SPEAKING tribes.
Where did you get this nonsense from? Greeks and Romans had nothing to do with Iranians.
Shapur
July 20th, 2004, 04:17 PM
Where did you get this nonsense from? Greeks and Romans had nothing to do with Iranians.
Sure they had nothing to do with Iranians... LOL!
Btw the Iranians, Greeks and Romans are more related as north Europeans with south Europeans. Laughable... :D
Aquila Aquilonis
July 21st, 2004, 05:46 AM
Sure they had nothing to do with Iranians... LOL!
Btw the Iranians, Greeks and Romans are more related as north Europeans with south Europeans. Laughable... :D
I would just like to know what old poets and historians you meant.
oslonor
April 30th, 2006, 12:55 AM
Non-mixed Iranians are white. They have generally dark hair and brown eyes but there are some who are even blond.
The problem with Iran is that there is way too much Turkic and semitic infiltration.
There are two major ethnic groups in Iran and they are Persians and Azeri Turks. Persians are Aryans. Azeri Turks are not Aryans. My blog will explain the difference. Persians and afghans have the same origin and both are Aryans.
I am not allowed to post on Stormfront or Pan Aryan Forum. Both of those forums are pro-Azeri Turks.
Slide show on Persians and Azeri Turks and afghans.
Persians
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20363431@N00/sets/72057594116581341/show/
Azeri Turks
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20363431@N00/sets/72057594116588250/show/
Afghan
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20363431@N00/sets/72057594116574438/show/
More on Persians and Hollywood
http://oslonor.blogspot.com/
Also See a critique of American white nationalist views on Iran
http://whitenationalistviews.blogspot.com/
oslonor
April 30th, 2006, 01:00 AM
Multiracial afghan child. Cute!
http://www.ithacahours.com/icn.afghani.2.jpg
This is not a multi racial afghan child. This is a Pashtun Afghan.
oslonor
April 30th, 2006, 01:03 AM
Now Vivavodio, the question is: Would you accept a half-Persian half-European as white?
Only famous one I know of...
http://www.stuffmagazine.com/girls/catherine_bell/catherine_bell_l9.jpg
...
This is a fake picture of Catherine Bell. This is the real Catherine Bell. She is Persian-British and speak fluent persian.
http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/2342/arcatherinebell4zu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
oslonor
April 30th, 2006, 01:35 AM
http://www.bol.ucla.edu/%7Emarclevy/persians.jpg
This is the typical Persian Phenotype. I don't care what anyone says, despite popular myths there are few to none Southern Euros who even remotely resemble these types.
One distinctive thing about Persians is that they tend to have thick eyebrows and soot-black eyes, which very very few Europeans have.
No. That is Persian Hollywood style phenotype. What you are describing is an Azeri Turk with connected eyebrows.
See Persians and Hollywood
http://oslonor.blogspot.com
oslonor
April 30th, 2006, 01:53 AM
[quote=Velademir]MultiRacial? bewaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bonehead she looks typical Irano-Afghan to me!
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/mar/girl/thennow.jpg
Keep Dreaming nigger, that's your ilk not mine, And why did you post a small picture to obscure her NW features?
http://iona.ghandchi.com/AfghanGirl/_1870382_afghan_girl300.jpg
http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/ekawasa/JohnPattenGraphics/People/Original/pe21.JPG
BUAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!! Have a look at them beady BLACK nigger eyes. You're only making yourself look stupid here nigger. You should've quit after your first post.
http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/ekawasa/JohnPattenGraphics/Children/Original/ch42.JPG
One light semite against a group of fecal colored ones, what's your point?
These pictures are altered. The nose does not change in that age. Jews are famous for fakes.
meerschaum
April 30th, 2006, 02:09 AM
No. That is Persian Hollywood style phenotype. What you are describing is an Azeri Turk with connected eyebrows.
See Persians and Hollywood
http://oslonor.blogspot.com
the vast majority of iranians are partial descendants of the arabs through 'arabization' from the male genetic line. the original speakers of farsi (parsi) may have been caucasian aryans similar to the georgians or armenians, getting killed off as we speak in another thread.:D
some 'armos' seem to have gotten a little mixed up with the turks while living under turkish occupation and in surrounding countries.
armenians & georgians are pretty much white. of course, nonathis is going to help us here in the u.s.
if i'm wrong respond with proof! :box:
rudi bhaktiar on cnn isn't 'white' and neither is bell, though close.
the pashtun child is an aryan mongoloid cross. this is an interesting area since the entire nation of latvia and hungary are also. but the mix is less than 2% thank god and so europe was saved
oslonor
April 30th, 2006, 02:35 AM
the vast majority of iranians are partial descendants of the arabs through 'arabization' from the male genetic line. the original speakers of farsi (parsi) may have been similar to the georgians or armenians, getting killed off as we speak in another thread.:D
the 'armos' seem to have gotten a little mixed up with the turks while living under turkish occupation and in surrounding countries.
georgians are pretty much white. of course, nonathis is going to help us here in the us.
if i'm wrong respond with proof! :box:
rudi bhaktiar on cnn isn't 'white' and neither is bell, though close.
the pashtun child is an aryan mongoloid cross. this is an interesting area since the entire nation of latvia and hungary are also. but the mix is less than 2% thank god and so europe was saved
I know Iran and Afghanistan very well I can tell you most of what you say is nonsense. Arabs have gene marker Haplogroup EU10. Iranians do not have EU10. So that was the end of discussion on Arabs mixed with Iranians. Pashtoons in Afghanistan are not mixed with anybody. That child is a pashtoon child. Rud Bakhtiar is not white. She is Aryan. I leave the concept of white for Europeans.
oslonor
April 30th, 2006, 02:49 AM
Uhm, Iranian is simply a nationality. Persian is the ethnicity. There are Azeri, Arabs, and Turks who are Iranian, as well.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ir.html
Look at the ethnicity sheet. Only 51% of Iran is Persian, and I believe the real numbers are quite lower.
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Yes. you are very correct. Persians are around %20-25 of population. Azeris are %35-45 of the population. CIA figures are wrong.
oslonor
April 30th, 2006, 02:51 AM
This CIA stuff is bullshit. This seperation of Iranians in different tribes is also bullshit. The difference between a Persian and a Kurd is that the Kurds live in the west and the Persians in the south and that both have two different tribe names. The rest is simmilar. They are one! The CIA statics are very strange.
I would guess Iran have 35% Persians but this is not imporant.
95% of Iranians are of Iranian stock this is important. Btw I am of Kurdish stock. :D
No. Shapur you are wrong:
They are two different ethnic groups. Kurds are Iranians but not Persians. The separation of Iranians into different tribes is the only way to protect their ethnic rights. Azeri turks talk about the "Iranian Race" precisely to violate the ethnic rights of all minorities.
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/20363431@N00/sets/72057594116581341/show/)
oslonor
April 30th, 2006, 02:54 AM
I will post some pictures of Iranians. None are models because I don't think they are necessarily representative of the population.
http://www.irna.ir/occasion/gover/khatami/gif/pic/zendegi.jpg
Mohammad Khatami (Iranian President)
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20021225/wd2.jpg
Khatami meeting Pakistani President Musharraf
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030125/ind2.jpg
Khatami meeting Indian Foreign Minister Singh
http://www.shiftyeye.com/images/madness/1002/Khamenei.jpg
http://www.sumka.org/images.2/mullah_khamenei1.jpg
Supreme Guide Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
http://iiarmy.topcities.com/shahstand.gif
Shah Mohammad Reza I Pahlavi
http://oud.refdag.nl/foto/010613konfo01.jpg
Empress Farah and Princess Leila
http://in.yimg.com/xp/reuters_ids_new/20031010/2885951543.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/June/Images/fr.jpg
Shirin Ebadi
http://www.iinavy.org/images/mirsepanj/takavar5.jpg
http://www.iinavy.org/images/mirsepanj/takavar2.jpg
http://www.iinavy.org/images/mirsepanj/takavar1.jpg
http://www.network54.com/Realm/momomomo/takavaran1.jpg
Takavaran (Iranian Naval Commandos)
http://network54.com/Realm/newIrannian/military1.jpg
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/2320/soldier.jpg
Iranian Army
http://www.worldnewsbulletin.com/images/19618.jpg
Iranian Air Force officers
Some more Iranians...
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/June/Images/pi.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/June/Images/gh.jpg
http://store2.yimg.com/I/eworldrecords_1795_173405
And, finally, the deserts of Iran where the "sand niggers" hang out...
http://members.ozemail.com.au/%7Eancientpersia/images/iran.jpg
Most of your pictures are Azeri Turks. Azeri Turks Khatami, Shah's family is half persian half Azeri Turk, Shirin Ebadi Azeri Turk and the rest such as Iran's fotboll team.
oslonor
April 30th, 2006, 03:06 AM
In Iran, nobody describes themselves as Persian. Persian basically means Iranian proper (Iranian stock, Farsi language) or Great Iranian in the sense that proper Russians used to be described as Great Russians while related peoples like the Belarussians were called White Russians.
There are several groups which the Persians would consider as close (but not identical) brethren. These include the Gilaki, Mazandarani and Kords. Sometimes the Lor and Bakhtiari are also considered as brethren but not as close I don't think (they are often viewed with suspicion as they are tribesmen and historical events). There is a recognition that Baluchis are related to Persians but they are viewed with suspicion because they have probably mixed somewhat with non-Iranian people.
The Arabs and Turkmen are definitely not regarded as brethren of the Persians (but these people are probably still largely Iranian though with significant admixture). The Azaris are more complicated. Some view them as brethren; others do not. IMO they are Persians with slight Oghuz Turk admixture (perhaps on the order of 5-10%, say). We're looking at a classical Turkish elite imposing its dominance on a Persian populace I think in Azarbaijan.
As for the accuracy of the CIA figures, note that they have a vested interest in making the Persians look as weak as possible (they fund opposition groups like SANAM which seeks Azari independence). So perhaps the figures are too low even. Also, if the claims of the minorities in Iran were taken into account Persians wouldn't even make up 5% of the population. :D So you have to take that with a pinch of salt. Also, places like Gilan can maintain highly concentrated populations whereas the mountainous areas are populated less sparsely.
If I were pushed to come up (using the CIA figures) with the proportion of true Iranians, or Aryans if you want to call it that, I would calculate as follows. At the least, being very strict, I would say that the Persians (51%), Gilakis and Mazandaranis (8) and Kords (7%) were Aryan (66%). Perhaps 5% are not pure leaving 61%. A medium estimate, probably followed by most Persians, would include the Lors and Bakhtiari (5%) and this would leave (taking out the unpure) the Aryan population at about 66%. Now if you were to include the Azari who have no Turkic admixture (22%) this would come to 90%. Some Baluchis may be pure Iranian too but their numbers are so small that it would not change the figure much.
In short, I would say that at least 60% of Iranians are of pure Iranian stock but this may range as high as 90%.
You are a Pan-Azeri , Pan-turk. You are promoting the Azeri Turk "Iranian race" invented by the Azeri Turk regime in Tehran.
See this:
Are there Persians in Iran?
http://panturanianinpersia.blogspot.com/
The Policy of Turkification of Iran
http://azeriturks.blogspot.com/
meerschaum
April 30th, 2006, 12:12 PM
I know Iran and Afghanistan very well I can tell you most of what you say is nonsense. Arabs have gene marker Haplogroup EU10. Iranians do not have EU10. So that was the end of discussion on Arabs mixed with Iranians. Pashtoons in Afghanistan are not mixed with anybody. That child is a pashtoon child. Rud Bakhtiar is not white. She is Aryan. I leave the concept of white for Europeans.
THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU SAID AT THE ARMENIAN FORUM, NOW IS IT OSLONOR? REMEMBER, I KNOW QUITE A BIT ABOUT THIS STUFF.:D
You're a moron. Us Persians don't need white people like you telling us who we are. We KNOW who we are. We don't WANT to be white. Europeans are NOT Aryan. You never were, and you never will be. Aryans today are Persian, Afghan, Indian, And Pakistani. And WE ARE NOT WHITE. AND WE ARE PROUD. The only racist person I see here is you, NOT HOLLYWOOD. You seem so ashamed of the fact that your wife is not white, that you will try anything in your power to get her to be white. NEWSFLASH: The myth that Germans are Aryan has been proven false COUNTLESS times. There is NO Indo-European race. The Aryan race was INDO-IRANIAN.
Persians and Iranians don't like Europeans, we don't care about Europeans, our culture is completely different than Europeans. WE ARE NOT LIKE YOU. GIVE IT A REST.
YES, PERSIANS DO LOOK VASTLY DIFFERENT. Even Dariush, the Shah of Iran had bushy, curly, black hair, and light brown skin, with a hooked nose. You're a d**n idiot.
ARYANS ARE NOT EUROPEAN, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR STUPID SKULL.
When will white people stop trying to be Iranian?
And I hope you know that those pictures you posted are mostly of Iranian girls who have had nose jobs, tatooted their eyebrows, and dyed their hair. It's very popular to do those things in Iran, if you knew anything about Iran, you would know that. Get a life.
It's very easy to go through a bunch of pictures of a group of people and pick out 5 that look "white" and then post them and come to a conclusion.
you're an idiot.
Indo-European is a lie.
A lot of Iranians have Arab blood. Arabs and Iranians have been in contact with eachother for thousands of years, it's natural.
LINK
http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=6836
oslonor
April 30th, 2006, 05:13 PM
THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU SAID AT THE ARMENIAN FORUM, NOW IS IT OSLONOR? REMEMBER, I KNOW QUITE A BIT ABOUT THIS STUFF.:D
LINK
http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=6836
This is an Azeri Opinion on Persians. And you have not quaoted my reply to it: This was my reply:
Oslonor: You are an Azeri Turk and you make up all this to be able to hide yourself behind the label of Persian. Sorry those pictures are the picutres of live Persians. Azeris look different from Persians.
You can read more about that here:
Comments by Visitors
http://commentsbyvisitors.blogspot.com/
Armenian Genocide Forum
http://www.armeniangenocide.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1553
From your dishonesty in quoting me, I conclude that you are an Azeri Turk. Thanks for the information.
meerschaum
April 30th, 2006, 09:23 PM
i couldn't tell if that was a quote or if you had written it. still i'm not entirely convinced though surprised at your restraint.
~~sorry~~
oslonor
April 30th, 2006, 10:04 PM
i couldn't tell if that was a quote or if you had written it. still i'm not entirely convinced though surprised at your restraint.
~~sorry~~
What are you not convinced of?
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