This is an article I submitted to Alex.

Should you get on Welfare? Going on the dole isn’t for everyone, but it may be right for you

As the downward spiral continues, I am observing increasing despair and impatience among our people.

Personally, I am in some physical fear of social upheaval and all that could entail, such as martial law, shortages, and such. As one of the founding member of the informal “worse is better club,” I live in fear of Principle No. 2 of the worse is better club . . . namely, “worse is also worse.”

But I do not despair of our cause, even at this time when the outer symptoms of racial degeneracy are the most visible. As someone who made a rare trip to a shopping mall told me, “I saw a lot of Barbies with Third World Kens.” A disheartening sight, to be sure, but one that must be taken in the larger context of general decay.

Why should anyone be surprised at racial degeneracy in a country where the wealthy import illegal alien labor to replace the working class White guy up the street? Why should race mixing surprise us in a country where a dual citizen government official, Israeli Mossad spy chief Michael Chertoff, covers up for Israeli terrorists caught red handed and stopped from carrying out attacks and quietly deports them to Israel, while arresting American patriots like Chester Doles and Matt Hale on ridiculous, trumped up charges?

The explosive growth of inter-racial coupling, the Third Worldization of America, the destruction of education, outsourcing and offshoring of our jobs, the near perfect control of Americans’ access to information, are all to be taken in context with one another.

Remember what we were all thinking about a mere 20 years ago? It was all about the Cold War and possible nuclear annihilation. America still had an appearance of racial health; rap music wasn’t around yet, and white kids and their heavy metal seemed to rule the airwaves. America’s racial problems were barely a blip on the radar screen, especially compared to the Cold War. Only a few far sighted people like Dr. Pierce were talking about our race and jew problem back in 1984, and they were relegated to the fringe of militia conventions, gun shows, and the occasional Klan rally.

Now the Cold War is forgotten, and White nationalism is coming out of the fringe and experiencing birth pains. As Tom Metzger recently commented, people are largely despairing because they aren’t seeing the White Revolution on their televisions.

People have been conditioned to see history play out on televisions and movie screens. They think a White Revolution is not happening if they aren’t seeing it on TV.

There’s something we need to understand. The jews got their anti-White revolutions by first playing them out on TV, and when people started believing the jewish movie and TV fantasies, the jewish fantasies BECAME REAL because people started believing them. The jews call this “doing Midrash on reality.” They write scripts where the multi-racial cast appear to be equals, or perhaps the non-whites are better. The fantasy of the jewish communist is implanted into the lemmings mind, and the lemming then loses the ability to distinguish jewish Midrash from reality on the ground.

So people are deeply conditioned to believe if they aren’t seeing it happening on TV and movies, it’s probably not happening. This is even true among White nationalists.

I am only 34 years old, and I have seen extremely radical changes over the course of my life. After all this, I strongly doubt that the current status quo is “stable,” especially with all the cheating and “wink winking” going on regarding our labor and immigration laws.

I meet Americans every day who grew up with a strong faith in this country having lost that faith, largely due to their suffering the effects of economic globalization on their jobs and on the quality of products. Globalization means our manufacturing goes overseas, and though the Chinese made junk is cheaper, the quality is much, much lower. The benefits of globalization flow EXCLUSIVELY to the plutocrats and no one else. Everyone else is cheated or worse by globalization, including and especially the poorer countries of the world. I heard a radio interview of a Bangladeshi working for Microsoft, and he was saying that Microsoft only paid an average wage, about 60 dollars a month, and he hated working in the computer field as much as I did.

I make a prediction that may make many of you skeptical. I predict that the racial problems, while not going away, will be reduced and white solidarity will again be taken for granted, but globalization and shortage induced POVERTY will loom large in our lives.

And now I will make the case for some Whites to go on the dole, and for ALL Whites to become obsessed with accumulating money and returning to our Yankee Puritan roots of thrift and wealth building, albeit with a modern White revolutionary variation.

If you are a landowner with the ability to farm food and/or have a workshop, then you probably can’t go on the dole. In that case, you should be a homesteader/farmer and work with the White nationalist families that are on welfare, because the welfare Whites and the landowning Whites can have a mutually beneficial relationship, namely, the welfare Whites have the free time to do things like work the land and brew beer and take care of the chickens and sell products off the land. Landowner White may have to slug away at a higher paying corporate job to meet the bills, while Welfare White helps Landowner White develop businesses off his farm (after Welfare White returns from his newspaper delivery route)

Most of us don’t have land, and if you own a house that doesn’t have the land to farm, you might as well sell the thing and if you get any money out of it, buy some rural land and put a mobile home or RV on it. You can make yourself quite comfortable by digging a well, using a compost toilet, a camp shower, and a shed style wood stove, all of which can be obtained through publications like “Backwoods Living” and “Mother Earth News.” Basically you should embrace a sort of landowning hobo lifestyle, rather than owning a condo or a landless home.

Owning your acres is the ultimate goal. If you can’t do it now, here’s what to do.

If you have a girlfriend that is fit and competent for breeding, then she will be your “home base.” Don’t get married, and if you are married, then get divorced (but stay married in your hearts). She will have your children but not tell social services who the father is, saying, “Hell, I don’t know, I’m surprised the kid is White!” If she is an innocent one, she may need to attend family court magistrate hearings and observe the race mixing filth – how they behave, how they dress, how they talk, in order to competently impersonate a race mixing whore. Race mixing sluts have a certain nervous, ill tempered manner about them. One can also observe them on shows like Jerry Springer, but it is better to see them in their natural environment – family court trying to collect child support for their mulattoes.

She’s got to be pushy and demanding, and get everything possible from social services – Section 8 housing, Medicaid, AFDC, WIC, GA, and food stamps. It goes against the nature of Whitey to do this, so you may have to form a strategic acquaintance with a colored who knows the system and can teach you how to work the system. You might want to volunteer in the inner city and make friends with some of the welfare administrating sorts, and then you bring your girlfriend in, all ragged, pretending you don’t know her, and say, “I found this poor, unfortunate woman on the street. Can you help her?” She should be crying and screaming and acting like race mixing filth. If you have won the heart and mind of your welfare administrator, the full array of government benefits will be opened to her.

Then you can “camp out” at your woman’s Section 8 apartment. Free rent! Housing is damned expensive, so this is a good thing. Of course there will be welfare cheese too! Food stamps can go a long way, especially combined with a cash share or work share from a CSA farm (find one in your area here www.csacenter.org )

Now you have to go find cash work. Follow your nose – smell the recently emigrated divershitty? They call it “Labor Ready” here in New England.

You will have to consider what skills you have, and perhaps look to getting more. Then you go around and work at rich people’s homes. Rich people are socially irresponsible scum buckets that hire illegal immigrants in order to screw the honest working White man. But they’ll be especially glad to hire cash hungry Whitemen with lots of skills! Think of what you can do, and be sure to mention it to all the Mr. Richmans that you meet. Wash his yacht? Be the regular that landscapes his mansion property? Maybe he’d let you have a garden on his property? Maybe he would like to have a game reserve for shooting pheasant? Find out what he likes, and find a way to sell your labor to him. Mr. Richman is a safe to be cracked, just find out what he wants, or what he doesn’t know he wants but when you tell him about it, he wants it. If you are a typical 135 or above resourceful Whiteman, you’ll crack a few Richmen.

With all your free time, Mr. Welfare Whitey, you should learn lots and lots of skills. You should definitely learn how to dress and butcher animals like deer and moose. Work at a slaughterhouse for that cash money until you are skilled in taking apart a big bull and turning him into prime cuts in three hours. Then when you work for Mr. Richman, you ask him if he likes to hunt. If he does, give him your “Bill the Butcher” business card. When he goes to Maine or Alaska to take some moose, he’ll hire you out at 300 a day! Be sure to shoot a moose yourself and take the meat home to the chest freezer at the Section 8 apartment! Always be on the lookout for ways to get shit for free!

Learning how to fix boats is not a bad thing. Lots of Richmen play with yachts. I once fixed a washing machine on a 35 million dollar yacht with a 5 man crew. It cost a million a year to maintain. The captain’s flying deck was up high and looked like the Star Trek Enterprise, or perhaps a very spacious jet cockpit. It had a yoke and a throttle for steering and power, like an airplane. Had fully programmable computer, so the boat could drive itself. Radar for other boats and storms. The cylinders were so big you couldn’t get your arms around them. It had powerboat “life boat” type, that would be the kind of boat you or I would own, if we could afford a boat.. Had a hot tub on the top deck so Mr. Richman could engage in illicit pleasures “on the top of the world” so to speak.

So once you establish your “home base” with your female and your bills paid by Uncle Shitskin, you have the freedom to go and earn cash money, or learn skills to better earn cash money.

When you are stuck working at a full time, taxpaying job, you have less opportunity to meet people and learn new skills. But if you live like a Mexican, the world is your oyster. Work when you want to, and learn things when you figure out what you need to learn. With a Whiteman’s IQ, a White Amerikwan’s hunger and rage, and a place to “camp” on the taxpayer’s dime, the world is your oyster. If you fail to take full advantage of it, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Save your money, whether you buy gold coins or whatever. I am not going to tell you how to invest, but take a look at precious metals. The American dollar is being propped up artificially, says the word on the street, so think outside of the box how best to invest what surplus wealth you acquire. A reputable place to get precious metals is www.goldcentral.com I’m told. And when you have enough, getting some acres is the best investment.

If I weren’t a landowner, I’d go on welfare immediately. The only reason I continue in the aboveground economy is because I have something to lose. If you have nothing to lose, then for heaven’s sake Whiteman! Think outside the box!

As a freewheeling Whitey who makes his own rules and has plenty of resources at his disposal, you will be much more convincing to fence sitting Whitemen who haven’t yet made up their mind about the survival of their race. I have converted people to our cause by setting an example of who I am, though I am far from what I want to be it’s still far along from a System dependent, condo dwelling, sports fan.

And I want to emphasize the value of becoming money obsessed. It becomes a kind of sport, and an interesting one. You don’t do it for money’s sake, but you seek to build your homestead in such a way that money flows from the System to you, but once you get the money, it only flows among your circle of friends, your little community.

We are returning to an age of feudalism, in a certain sense. Now is the time to start building yourself up as either a “landlord” or a free wheeling steward to a landlord who makes money any way he can and becomes part of the landlord’s economy. It’s all about finding infinite ways to recycle our wealth to each other, to dam up the river of money that currently flows through us, so we build up our own “lakes.”

Eventually, WE can be the money-lenders, the pawnbrokers, to the outgroups. Jewish power was made in a certain way; I strongly believe that the way to unmake is to mirror it, and take advantage of the fact that jews have gotten soft and complacent. THEY are the decadent aristocrats of 2004, with vast fortunes and holdings held by lackadaisical grandchildren and great grandchildren of the jews who made those fortunes. WE must start working to outmaneuver the jew in the financial and material sector. We must work to be the Controllers of markets, and to mirror the jewish way of doing it – by only doing business favorably with ingroup people, and any dealings with outgroup people should be very profitable for us or not at all.

It’s fun and it’s addictive; always looking for an angle to make more money, always learning more skills and expanding one’s horizons in the material sector. Don’t you dream of escaping corporate employment and middle managers and HR people? Don’t you dream of escaping the dull monotony of wage earning, and instead using your creativity and imagination and skills that you have or will acquire in your free, welfare subsidized time?

America’s a very complex place, and there are still lots of opportunities, but too many Whites tread a narrow path of wage earning and condo dwelling. There are a lot of paths trodden by jews and coloreds, to their profit and our loss, that we need to be bold enough to tread as well. Let us stop being the ones taken advantage of, and let’s start taking advantage ourselves. Remember Ayn Rand’s novel, “Atlas Shrugged” where “the Men of the Mind” go on strike? That’s what this is all about – Whitey going on strike, and dropping the White man’s burden right on the head of our enemies. If we are so bad and evil, then let the people who hate us maintain this civilization themselves.

Andrei Kievsky

In theory welfare is great: you get money and you parasite the ZOG.
The problem is the amount of money given compared to my rent and I don't like to starve...

Get what you can while you can. Zog bucks are not going to last forever. You can take the money and donate it to white causes.

You would be amazed what you can earn and still be eligible for.

A single man can Earn $900 a month and be eligible for full food stamps benefits, housing, and benefits.

A single man can earn $500 a week and still be eligible for benefits in a limited capacity.

You can still work and get the benefits, use the free time you would have used working for passing flyers and such, and if you can get extra money use it for the cause.

A white man can triple his usefulness to the WN cause by taking some welfare and spending more time in activism. You can work more pay more taxes and give Africans more money, or you can take some Welfare out of the mouths of Africans and work less and be more active.

Unfortunately I run the family business and am dedicated to it for more than a financial aspect. If I were working for some rich Jew I would take less money and hours and get more benefits in a minute.

Great article once again Mr. Kievsky.
Not sure if you have to 'interview' in person down at your local welfare office or not. Maybe there is an online version of the application process.
I would not be surprised if a White goes in person to the local welfare office for the 'interview', the welfare pencil pusher denies your request.
Not tryinng to be pessimistic, but as IronWorker stated, Welfare is NOT designed for functioning human Whites.
If its legit, sure, one can get it. But, for those of us in the upper crust of the working class, they make these govt. programs difficult to get. Don't they have access to one's tax records?

For example, I was unable to qualify for College grants and certain low interest loans because "my family had too much wealth".
We were not even middle class.
But, I really like this idea Kievsky. And one is not really parasiting the zog's system per se. You are using your free time to acquire new skills and work and hustle to make some wealth for yourself.
Besides, how do we quantify the hundreds of millions, if not a few billion, White Americans have to pay out just to keep the third worldization of the US on the fast track?

The destruction of our schools, communities, loss of jobs, urban blight, crime, prisons, etc. must be the tens of billions!!

Here's another idea that is somewhat related to this welfare strategy.
Try the church route. Use the term 'church' or jew the religious system into literally forming your own 'church' or congregation of some sort of religion and establish this as a cover to get those tax breaks and qualify for Non-profit status.
It's all cammo at this point. Basically, use a church as a front operation, not so much as a neo-WN org, but really just to give you a place to live, a few acres, access to non-profit funds, tax breaks, etc. You will probably find more than a couple of folks to actually believe in your church. Obviously, stay away from the urban centers. Try the rural midwest or the west.
Maybe import a few Afrikanners to help you set up a wrokable farm adjacent to the church.
There are so many churches that as much as they may believe in their faith, they act as de facto WN breeding orgs.
Look at the amish, hutterites, mennomenites!
Do you know how many kids they produce?
All self sufficient communities, they have their wealth, skills, community folkish spirit, yankee-Germanic thriftiness, all that stuff.
Yes, of course, their new testament quackery is silly, but for all intents and purposes these folks act as de facto WN orgs!
Look at their racial makeup.

Welfare + church non-profit status ='s a most successful operation.

Use the zog system to work for us.

This is why we should start agitating to get welfare NOW, instead of waiting for when we really really need it.

The vanguard of Welfare Whites who have few or not attachments -- house, good job, business, etc -- those who have little to lose, should try to get on welfare and sign on to VNN with a false name so it isn't too obvious to ZOG. Tell us what happens.

Imagine the anger among White Americans if you jump through all the hoops and are denied welfare? You should get up as a homeless White and stand on the corner with the sign that says, "I was denied welfare benefits because I am white. Think the social safety net is for everybody? Think again, white people!"

Make a huge stink! I sure as heck would be the first one out there if I hadn't already adopted the role of Landowning White.

Then you go around to any White you see, make sure you smell good, and tell them what happened and warn them that welfare WON'T BE THERE FOR THEM if they need it. They can pay the taxes, but the social safety net will be DENIED TO THEM!

This will be especially effective if many Whites do this. Imagine a White Revolution rally in favor of "Welfare Rights for Whites Too!" Imagine the government officials having to answer infuriated telephone calls and letters from White families demanding to know if it's true that Whites don't get welfare when they need it?

Don't just lay back and accept your fate, "Oh, Whites can't get welfare, boo hoo." Maybe not, and this is a great thing to raise a stink over! Just do it!

Rob

With the financial aid I get(thanks to my veteran status, I can legally claim to be "independent" and use my own financial data instead of my parents, been doing this since I was 19, normally you are independent at 24) ,plus scholarships, I pull a profit going to school.


And its legal, as I hide nothing from those forms. Of course I am not stupid, the government figures the more they fork over for my eductaion, the more money I make, meaning the higher tax bracket I'm in. Guess theyre not exactly stupid either.

Plan on getting a subsdized housing loan, that STAR program thing can halve or exempt me from property taxes, so on and so forth. Hell, might shoot for medicaid(or whichever one is for younger people when I finish school. Why the hell should "benefits" be a Sword of Damocles hanging over my head? I pay FICA damnit, and I want something back.

I'll take whatever I'm entitled to.

Hey bro, the Nuclear Physics Trade ain't the best payer in the world, but heck, it sure has to be better than waitin and a watchin for the arrival of the Welfare Check. :(

Hey bro, the Nuclear Physics Trade ain't the best payer in the world, but heck, it sure has to be better than waitin and a watchin for the arrival of the Welfare Check. :(

When you get established in Section 8 housing you aren't "waitin' and watchin'" for anything! You are paying 30% of the market rate for rent and no one is goiing to evict a responsible Whitey in such housing.

As for the cash assistance, you are making your own cash assistance by working in the underground Mexican economy. I guess you didn't read my whole article, because I addressed your objection, you darn fool.

The best thing about welfare is you don't have to pay the high bills of the above ground economy. Your bills are paid, you got it made in the shade, and all you need is to go make some hip pocket spending cash, perhaps to save up for a still from www.easttnstills.com or a machine shop from www.smithy.com to use on Landowner White's property and try and start an enterprise and free Mr. Landowner Whtie from wage labor.

I wrote a complex article, and I ask you to please not reply on this thread UNLESS YOU READ THE WHOLE DARN THING instead of just commenting on the title.

Rob

This is why we should start agitating to get welfare NOW, instead of waiting for when we really really need it.

Don't just lay back and accept your fate, "Oh, Whites can't get welfare, boo hoo." Maybe not, and this is a great thing to raise a stink over! Just do it!

Rob

Rob,

I have always enjoyed your articles on VNN. Most are insightful and perceptive but with all due respect you really laid an egg with this one. Telling WN's to go on welfare? Hey, thats the ticket. Lets be like ni**ers! Soak the system...i.e. White taxpayers! We WN's have no value that the state does not grant us. Lets impose ourselves on employers who are mostly White! Lets live off the fat of the land and do no work other than making moonshine with our newly aquired stills! Just make sure we can muster enough pathos to convince an administrative welfare judge of our plight.

Hells bells Rob...why stop with welfare. Lets take the racket a step further! Mental or physical disability! There are too many strings attached to receiving welfare. The benefits are not fabulous, and ZOG bureaucrats bother you to do things like enroll in a job-training programs.

The great thing about disability is ZOG bureaucracies are in no position to judge the scientific merit of each case so we shouldn't have any problemo with that one! Did you know Rob, that in the last ten years, the amount transferred from White taxpaper wallets to those living off disability claims has more than doubled, and has become the largest income-support program in the federal budget ($60 billion), larger than unemployment benefits or food stamps? Disability is the most reliable cash cow, way... way better than welfare!

All you do is make a claim that is impossible to refute. The overwhelming numbers of disabilities claims come down to two essential sources: back trouble and mental disability. Who is to say you don’t have back trouble? Actually, does anyone over the age of 40 not have some form of back trouble? As for mental disability, there’s nothing like idle hands to create the illusion of grave mental trouble, just ask Bill White!

Of course no discussion of disability is complete without drawing attention to the role of lawyers(jews). Whole law firms have been established and profited from shepherding disability claims through the courts. Itz the perfect scam! Use non working class bums to loot the White middle class to fund the jew overclass! In no time at all we could recast the American welfare state as a Marxist egalitarian disability assistance fund with jews at the top running the show! Ain't America grand, Rob!

Imagine the anger among White Americans if you jump through all the hoops and are denied welfare? You should get up as a homeless White and stand on the corner with the sign that says, "I was denied welfare benefits because I am white. Think the social safety net is for everybody? Think again, white people!"

Ok now I am just to tempted by that. Everyone here knows I am not on welfare but I wouldn't care to go to another state or even another part of this state and walk around with that sign just to agitate.

The next time I go to a blacker climate I am seriously thinking about making up a cardboard sign dressing poorly and walking around like that.

I'm all for survival skills, but man, how come whites NEVER say, "get a medical degree, go to journalism school, get elected to office," etc.? It's always, "learn how to skin a wild animal." Duh. Get on top of this bitch and run it from the top. Don't run away to the mountains.

.....Should you get on Welfare? Going on the dole isn’t for everyone, but it may be right for you.........

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Of course, if this speeds up the toppling process. The sooner the establishment collapses, the sooner it can be replaced

Very interesting jew-do idea Kievsky. I enjoyed reading it.

People on our side who can get benefits out of the federal trough out to do so. Otherwise we are noble losers. Why not suck the teat which is available? That will mean less milk to go to nourishing our enemies.

Only part I would question is the divorce your wife part. But I regard that as hyperbole which assists in driving the point home.

Here is something for you guys to research. I have an acquaintance who is a disabled veteran. Backaches, nothing very serious, but definitely not imagined. He gets these tremendous government contracts as a "disabled veteran." LOOK INTO THIS-- THIS IS WHITE MAN'S WELFARE OPPORTUNITY BIG TIME! In his case this involves a business which on his description seems little more than a "shell" but that's as much as I'm going to say.

To Steve B.

It seems you didn't read my whole article. I didn't just say get on welfare and do nothing. I said use that free time to learn new skills and get high paying cash work. Do what the Mexicans are doing, but angle yourself to make a LOT of cash, not Mexiwages.

I feel like such an idiot for paying such high taxation and paying full price for everything while our enemies are getting a free ride off of us. Yes, I want Whites who can do it to stop contributing to the System and start taking from it.

I know some guys on disability too, and I think they don't do enough with their free time. People don't realize how valuable free time really is. I just worked 17 hours -- I get up at 1:30 am now for my paper route, and do that route, then my appliance route. My paper route pays 330 a week. Someone told me yesterday that his full time Amerikwan office job doesn't pay as much.

As for Antiochus Epiphanes and divorcing one's wife -- if you have to do it to have more kids and still get welfare, it may be worth going to that extreme.

White people are way too reactionary and skittish about the extreme measures required. It's easy to say, "Kill the xxx" but what about extreme measures that are short of violence? I don't see people willing to take the plunge.

Reply to Douglas Wright:

The people who are becoming doctors and lawyers on our side are with us, but they generally don't write for VNN, with a couple of exceptions. I know of some highly placed people on our side. I also know of some who believe as we do but are incorrigible elitists who disdain ordinary Whites and don't believe that there is enough quality White genetic material left to make a worthwhile White Revolution or new White society. So their attitude is "Apres moi, les deluge."

My target audience is people who have nothing but their high IQ and willingness to work tirelessly for the 14 Words.

To all:

I am not saying to emulate the work ethic of people of African descent. I am sayijng to get on welfare in order to be a jack of all trades cash money worker and to make a sport of building wealth to buy a piece of land and a Smithy machine www.smithy.com

Rob

This is a great article Kievsky, you have hit the nail on the head with it. The more white people take from zog the less is left for the mud's! Here in the UK it is fairly easy to get on the dole, if you dont mind filling out a stack of forms that is. Anyway i think Bleeding The Beast is the way to go and i do so in any way i can!

.....Why not suck the teat which is available? .....Only part I would question is the divorce your wife part.......
...which belongs in another thread. Namely, "88 ways to save money"

Here in Canada, the welfare system like this. If you are an employable person, you can go on welfare for a temporary period of time, get barely enough money to live on, report to the system any additional earnings you make and provide evidence of a job search. This is hardly worth it.

However , there is another alternative. If you have a history of either Attention Deficiet Disorder or Bi polar, and have a spotty employment record, you are elligable for a disability pension. You get 775 dollars a mounth as opposed to 500 a month. The real advantages are that you can make extra money on the side working under the table up about 500 dollars a month. You don't have to fill out a monthly card to your local office. You are not required to do any job search. This is the system in British Columbia. Other provinces may be different.

Of coarse this is not for everyone. If your an unskilled worker going from one minimum wage job to another, and barely getting by from month to month, this may be something to consider. Right now, it's better to take away from the system than feed the system. If your busting your ass paying thousands of dollars a year in taxes, that very tax money that you are working so hard to create is being used to destroy your race in every way possible.

While our enemies are in power, any stigma attached to White people and welfare should be removed. At least if your on the dole for the right reasons, like not feeding the sytem that destroying you.

Here in Canada, the welfare system like this. .........However , there is another alternative. If you have a history of either Attention Deficiet Disorder or Bi polar, and have a spotty employment record, you are elligable for a disability pension. You get 775 dollars a mounth as opposed to 500 a month. ------ not feeding the sytem that destroying you.
Gee, I could make a million there. How do I get into Canada?

........While our enemies are in power, any stigma attached to White people and welfare should be removed. At least if your on the dole for the right reasons, like not feeding the sytem that destroying you.
There are a few things we could peacefully do to speed up the downfall of the German regime or any other which uses a similar economic system. This could prove effective if all patriots would do this together:
1- Put off buying anything you don’t absolutely need for everyday survival.
These include automobiles, homes, luxury items all the way down to electric razors and bicycles. When you stop buying, you send a signal to the government that you are not confident with what they are doing. By excercising your purchasing power, you apply immense psychological pressure on those in power. The statistics for economic growth will show a drastic fall and domestic unemployment in the service sector will rise, causing a fall in consumer confidence of even those who refuse to participate in what you are doing. Shareholders will become dissatisfied. This will have a snowball effect on even governmental finances which mean either an increase in taxes to compensate for the loss of revenue which you are causing, or to a reduction of public services which will lead to even more voter inconfidence or both.
2- Learn repairing things yourself or else pool neighbors and friends or members in your clubs together and appoint a member for each type of repair and pay him or her instead of bringing the item into the economy to get repaired. If 1 in your group is good with electronics, bring your Television and radios to him.
The same goes for your auto repairs or sewing needs. Avoid buying a new items at all costs
3- Avoid purchasing globalized products, even if they are less expensive, if the aforementioned items cannot be repaired cheaper than the cost of a new 1. To buy a globalized item would be not only unforgivable, this practise is also unpractical and more expensive in the long run, because these items are not built to last and you will end up buying several of them in your lifetime instead of only 1 good German item
4- Reduce your telephone communication and instead reach people through the internet, writing off-line. These are savings of a few coins, but they add up in the long run
5- Accumulate as many e-mail adresses as possible and start a mass-mailing campaign urging people to protest vote. You could even use this to get English speakers to join the forum. A service which can handle up to 20 adresses at a time: www.spray.no If you have problems with the Norwegian language, I will be more than eager to help you use this account. Does anybody out there know of similar services which accommodate a large number of adresses?

I'm all for survival skills, but man, how come whites NEVER say, "get a medical degree, go to journalism school, get elected to office," etc.? It's always, "learn how to skin a wild animal." Duh. Get on top of this bitch and run it from the top. Don't run away to the mountains.

LOL. This thread could be a new low, even for this wonderful "trash forum." If this appeared on a negro site, their more "responsible" leaders like Cosby and even the extortionist Jesse Jackson would give one of their "empowerment" speeches. And they'd be right. I sure hope there are no impressionable White kids lurking here.

I take all of Kievsky's articles as discussion starters of the first order, and out of the box thinking exercises. I have started a garden, but many of the other ideas I have not. I personally think the most fantastic idea was the WN fat farm idea. Look that up in the archives.

Keep the ideas coming Kievsky! Everybody has ideas and most of them arent worth much. That one idea that is good, is worth a hundred that werent.

Anyhow, Kievsky is well educated and he has suggested people learn foreign languages and how to play instruments and so forth.

You may wish to consider that the idea is that of the revolutionary mindset, which seeks to ruthlessly make use of any opportunities at hand, and like one of Uncle schmuel's misguided children, "improvise adapt and overcome."

Thanks for the support, Mr. Epiphanes!

By the way, I had a modification of the fat farm idea. I think that grossly obese people should be trained to scuba dive and swim with monofins, thereby mimicking marine mammals like whales and manatees. This is a monofin:

http://www.freedive.net/freedive/chapters/monofin.htm

Obese people would find that they can move effortlessly through the water, since they are weightless, once equipped with a scuba tank and a monofin. this will help them get fit enough to do other types of exercise, and also give them some hope and inspiration for the whole concept of exercise.

After the swim, I would have them get out of the water and pedal a recumbent trike around, see:

http://www.lightfootcycles.com/

Such bicycles are very comfortable to ride, like pedaling around an easy chair.

As to the negative comments from Mr. Final Solution, I think he didn't read my article. He just looked at the title and judged it from there. Steve B. did the same thing.

I think using the forum for entertainment and a replacement for a e-socializing is unhealthy. The best use of an internet forum is the exchange of ideas and perhaps making social connections for working together face to face. But some folks need the forum for entertainment and e-socializing. So be it.

Rob

I'm all for survival skills, but man, how come whites NEVER say, "get a medical degree, go to journalism school, get elected to office," etc.? It's always, "learn how to skin a wild animal." Duh. Get on top of this bitch and run it from the top. Don't run away to the mountains.

I encourage those with that inclination to do so. Our struggle would have more hope if we turned out entrepreneurs instead of the current crop of disaffected, beer bellied reactionaries we have now. And hell, that is just the women.

But for the average working class white, making less and getting in on the handouts is a viable option. I know many families that would have foodstamps and free medical if they made a few hundred dollars less a month. Instead, they struggle to get by because they are too proud to take a handout. That's bullshit. Think of it this way. The money for these social programs comes from our tax money. Taking that into account, it's not a handout from the government but a way to get back the money that was taken from us to finance the programs in the first place. It doesn't make sense to fund Medicaid and then turn around and say that it is for everyone but me.

In summary, it seems that it makes the most sense to either be rich or have nothing and get everything for free.

As to the negative comments from Mr. Final Solution, I think he didn't read my article.

Not true. I especially enjoyed the parts about compost toilets, butchering moose and the incipient return to feudalism. You are a very talented, witty, writer, Kievsky, and I hope one day you can (if you wish) put up an essay about how young Whites with half your skill can commercialize it in a more lucrative manner than filling out welfare applications. Just to present a variety of options.

As to the negative comments from Mr. Final Solution, I think he didn't read my article. He just looked at the title and judged it from there. Steve B. did the same thing.


Rob

I did read the entire article you wrote, Rob. In it you're basically saying some Whites should go on welfare to help further the collapse of "the system" and also so welfare Whites will "have the free time to do things like work the land and brew beer and take care of the chickens and sell products off the land". And of course the "if you want to live like a Mexican, the world is your oyster".

Maybe it's just me Rob, but I don't want to live like a Mexican! I want to live like a White man and I resent people, whether they be White, black or brown, who suck my tax money down a never ending glory hole of get over welfare bums!

That being said, I agree with FS in that you are a hell of a good writer, Rob. I just wish you would use that big brain of yours to come up with something for White males to do other than divorcing his wife and then urging her to be "pushy and demanding" in the hopes she will have a better chance at section 8 housing!

the best suggestion would be to just get out there and DO IT!

I did read the entire article you wrote, Rob. In it you're basically saying some Whites should go on welfare to help further the collapse of "the system" and also so welfare Whites will "have the free time to do things like work the land and brew beer and take care of the chickens and sell products off the land". And of course the "if you want to live like a Mexican, the world is your oyster".

If I may disagree on that exact point, I’ll do so with the following argument:
1-Mexicans don’t undermine an economy with premeditated motives as such that we are debating, for it is over Mexican heads.
2-I think Rob want’s to undermine the present system, in its entirety, by competing with the Mexicans’ way of doing business. What’s the point of going to work only to experience that non-Europeans end up reaping the fruits of thine labor? Wouldn’t it be less foolish to devide thine fruits among thine own people? What’s wrong with Rob’s intentions to set up an “under-the-table” White ecoonomy? If you’re so worried about your tax dollars, it must be that you are yourself an elitest.


Maybe it's just me Rob, but I don't want to live like a Mexican! I want to live like a White man and I resent people, whether they be White, black or brown, who suck my tax money down a never ending glory hole of get over welfare bums!

Isn’t that the whole point of our movement? That we want to live like Whites. But, to do so, we must undermine the present system through any means possible. We have to be valiant, because there’s no way out except from hardship. Why let only Niggers, Beaners and Whateverelse exclusively rape the fruits of thine labor? I see nothing wrong with Whites sticking together to reach an objective. If you resist thine brethren, thou willst verily exist in a Mexican-N****r way of life


That being said, I agree with FS in that you are a hell of a good writer, Rob. I just wish you would use that big brain of yours to come up with something for White males to do other than divorcing his wife and then urging her to be "pushy and demanding" in the hopes she will have a better chance at section 8 housing!

Marriage and Divorce are man-made judicial entities.These institutions are legal stipulations for the Status Quack and nothing more
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If I may disagree on that exact point, I’ll do so with the following argument:
1-Mexicans don’t undermine an economy with premeditated motives as such that we are debating, for it is over Mexican heads.
2-I think Rob want’s to undermine the present system, in its entirety, by competing with the Mexicans’ way of doing business. What’s the point of going to work only to experience that non-Europeans end up reaping the fruits of thine labor? Wouldn’t it be less foolish to devide thine fruits among thine own people? What’s wrong with Rob’s intentions to set up an “under-the-table” White ecoonomy? If you’re so worried about your tax dollars, it must be that you are yourself an elitest.



Isn’t that the whole point of our movement? That we want to live like Whites. But, to do so, we must undermine the present system through any means possible. We have to be valiant, because there’s no way out except from hardship. Why let only Niggers, Beaners and Whateverelse exclusively rape the fruits of thine labor? I see nothing wrong with Whites sticking together to reach an objective. If you resist thine brethren, thou willst verily exist in a Mexican-N****r way of life



Marriage and Divorce are man-made judicial entities.These institutions are legal stipulations for the Status Quack and nothing more

You make some good points, Lamp. And I understand where you and Kievsky are coming from. But growing up my family instilled in me a strong work ethic and IMO any able bodied White man who goes on welfare simply to milk the system, even if it is corrupt, is a fu**in bum...no better than a Mexican or a ni**er.

You make some good points, Lamp. And I understand where you and Kievsky are coming from. But growing up my family instilled in me a strong work ethic and IMO any able bodied White man who goes on welfare simply to milk the system, even if it is corrupt, is a fu**in bum...no better than a Mexican or a ni**er.

On the other side of the coin, it could be easily argued that a hard working productive white man paying his taxes to the jews is just carrying his own coffin on his back, to his own funeral.

I say there are two choices to f**k with anti-white society/government.

1) Go on Welfare for 5 years.

2) Save up 5 years worth of money for a bare minimum of food, clothing, shelter. And simpley stop working, which absolves you of paying all but the minimum of minimums to taxes for the ZOG governments anti-white programs.


If millions of white men chose #2, we would see white revolution in less than 5 years time, for certain.

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17 hours and no thoughts on the above? Im suprised.

I have a thought. Please don't use the "F" word in Civil Forum.

In summary, it seems that it makes the most sense to either be rich or have nothing and get everything for free.

This is spot on.

The concept of White's going on Welfare and milking the system has some merit for those without the skills to earn at least a six-figure income.

Keeping wealth is equal in difficultly as is earning it...........as the jew is ever finding ways to skin White people.

Repositioning assets between family members is one way to shield them from exposure..........the koreans and hindis are well schooled in this strategy and they are profiting like bandits.......but it takes supreme trust and confidence in your family, and sadly, these traits are lacking in most White families today, thanks to the jew.

Those of you who are seriously thinking about "dropping-out" of the system should be aware of a potential bonanza at the start of the game.

For the past 5 years all of the major banks have been flooding our mail boxes with offers for unsecured credit cards........many with very attractive introductory rates. Most of us realize the scam with these cards and chuck the offers in the garbage.

But...........

The average Joe with an income of 25 to 40 thousand dollar income and a decent beacon score will qualify for up to 30 to 40 thousand dollars worth of unsecured credit..........this can also include department stores like Sears and JC Penny's.

For a person who is considering dropping out of the system, they could do very well shopping on the bank's dime and never have to pay them back.

A person could really stock-up with survival gear and supplies with $35,000 worth of buying-power, couldn't they?

The interesting thing about unsecured debt is that "If you have no assets, and no income........you never have to pay them back........and no one goes to jail for not paying. Of course your future credit options are gone and you will not be able to own anything...........but your wife.......I mean ex-wife could do all of "the owning"..........while you occasionally visit her 365 days a year.

I have a thought. Please don't use the "F" word in Civil Forum.

You see, I get to this thread by hitting the "new posts" link, so I dont even relize that this is the Civil Forum.

This is spot on.

The concept of White's going on Welfare and milking the system has some merit for those without the skills to earn at least a six-figure income.

Keeping wealth is equal in difficultly as is earning it...........as the jew is ever finding ways to skin White people.

Repositioning assets between family members is one way to shield them from exposure..........the koreans and hindis are well schooled in this strategy and they are profiting like bandits.......but it takes supreme trust and confidence in your family, and sadly, these traits are lacking in most White families today, thanks to the jew.

Those of you who are seriously thinking about "dropping-out" of the system should be aware of a potential bonanza at the start of the game.

For the past 5 years all of the major banks have been flooding our mail boxes with offers for unsecured credit cards........many with very attractive introductory rates. Most of us realize the scam with these cards and chuck the offers in the garbage.

But...........

The average Joe with an income of 25 to 40 thousand dollar income and a decent beacon score will qualify for up to 30 to 40 thousand dollars worth of unsecured credit..........this can also include department stores like Sears and JC Penny's.

For a person who is considering dropping out of the system, they could do very well shopping on the bank's dime and never have to pay them back.

A person could really stock-up with survival gear and supplies with $35,000 worth of buying-power, couldn't they?

The interesting thing about unsecured debt is that "If you have no assets, and no income........you never have to pay them back........and no one goes to jail for not paying. Of course your future credit options are gone and you will not be able to own anything...........but your wife.......I mean ex-wife could do all of "the owning"..........while you occasionally visit her 365 days a year.

Credit. I like that. 7 years and your credit is renewed. 7 years of no work or taxes from the white man to the jew.

If that wouldnt bring down the system, I dont know what would. Good idea.

You make some good points, Lamp. And I understand where you and Kievsky are coming from. But growing up my family instilled in me a strong work ethic and IMO ...

In good times, I would back you up all the way. But, we are presently at war, thus must use any means necessary to reach our objective, even those which make us feel uncomfortable


...any able bodied White man who goes on welfare simply to milk the system, even if it is corrupt, is a fu**in bum...no better than a Mexican or a ni**er.

I consider a bum to be one who doesn’t do anything at all for his race