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FranzJoseph
July 15th, 2004, 02:10 AM
Whether you find this fall-on-your-face funny or not, the checklist is real. It's used by the disciples of the late Wilhelm Reich to jump on people they dislike. I should also point out that Reichians are also hugely anti-Arab, so they also defend Bush (and presumably his Fascist Regime) when it suits them.
This is the article that makes the point:
http://www.orgone.org/articles/ax2000wwheel02.htm
This is the excerpt from it that had two of my discussion groups in stitches. Keep in mind: These people seriously believe the "Masculine" principle dominates America today!
...Here is my check list for fascism: Simply ask these questions and if your society (in any place or time) answers 7 or more "yes", then your society has a critical mass of individual fascists to have become a fascist society.
1) Does the "Masculine" principle dominate?
2) Is the Feminine principle only sentimentally revered without true equality?
3) Are "Family values" used as a propaganda tool to reinforce absolute hierarchy within the society?
4) Is there a class structure that dehumanizes the servant and subservient classes or deifies the ruling class?
5) Is a military or a warrior class in top control in society with militarism used as a paradigm for problem-solving?
6) Is nature viewed as an enemy or commodity with natural sexuality viewed as sinful?
7) Does "salvation" (the answers to ultimate questions) come from outside rather than from within, from the group rather than the individual?
8) Is form preferred over substance, slogan over content, symbol or sign over acts expressing the values the symbol represents?
9) Is "patriotism" to one's race or nation used to cement class structure and power within the lower classes subjected to that power?
10) Is religion used as a tool of the State to homogenize and control opposition?
I submit that the answers are "yes" to all 10 questions when looking at the United States of America. What is confusing is that the USA is apparently a pluralist society, which doesn't have the expected uniformity of fascism. In fact the pluralism of the USA is tolerated in the lower (both middle and poverty) classes only so long as they do not challenge the overall class in control of the political-economic power system. One needs only to look at the make up of the Congress of the USA to see the expected uniformity
of the ruling class....
Franco
July 15th, 2004, 02:51 AM
I [personally] think this is a somewhat dangerous thread. It suggests that 1) the current U.S. regime is Fascist [hah, hah, hah!] and 2) that Fascism is a bad thing.
Fascism is not a bad thing if it is done correctly. Under Fascism, Jews cannot control newspapers that push racial eeeekwality, feminism and other s-s-scary things.
Hitler's government was basically fascist, as was Mussolini's and some South American regimes in the 1970s.
Note that Fascism and Communism are TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS.
Communism, on the other hand, is an evil, Jewish invention that has murdered and enslaved nearly 100 million people so far.
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Anima Eternae
July 15th, 2004, 03:23 AM
Fascism is also incorrectly equated with Nazism. I read that South Korea was fascist for a while...
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Whirlwind
July 15th, 2004, 07:55 AM
From what I see, IronWorker has the correct analysis. Fed controls mass transit, banking, medical access, property rights etc. Looks like bolshevism.
The Final Solution
July 15th, 2004, 08:57 AM
Here's what I find interesting:
8) Is form preferred over substance, slogan over content, symbol or sign over acts expressing the values the symbol represents?
This is of course true, but just a rehash of Orwell, who was a socialist anti-communist.
9) Is "patriotism" to one's race or nation used to cement class structure and power within the lower classes subjected to that power?
Quite the opposite. Patriotism in 'Kwa is to a vaguely ideologically-constructed state that has little to do with nation and is virulently opposed to ordinary members of the majority Race.
10) Is religion used as a tool of the State to homogenize and control opposition?
Always has been, though these days you could make an equally plausible argument that the state is a tool of a particularly vile anti-Racial religion:
HOW THE BUSH EVANGELICAL WAR PARTY CONTROLS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
http://bushwatch.org/bushisgod3.jpg
http://bushwatch.org/evangelist.htm
Angle
July 15th, 2004, 11:56 AM
In fact the pluralism of the USA is tolerated in the lower (both middle and poverty) classes only so long as they do not challenge the overall class in control of the political-economic power system. One needs only to look at the make up of the Congress of the USA to see the expected uniformity
of the ruling class....
This, at least, is correct. For if Hymie shall profit, Hymie will supply.
Antiochus Epiphanes
July 15th, 2004, 02:50 PM
fascism, meaningless term as racist or nazi
FranzJoseph
July 15th, 2004, 03:50 PM
I [personally] think this is a somewhat dangerous thread. It suggests that 1) the current U.S. regime is Fascist [hah, hah, hah!] and 2) that Fascism is a bad thing.
That's why I thought it was funny. Reich's followers considered any appeal to discipline or law to be fascism. They use the word to cover anything and their list shows it. It's not even consistent with it's own agenda.
Note that Fascism and Communism are TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS.
Then imagine living in a country where people are too dumb to know the difference.
Took me years to find out that the "Cold War" was really Wilhelm Reich versus the Food & Drug Administration. Nothing else!
Antiochus Epiphanes
July 15th, 2004, 05:07 PM
"Jewocracy" is our form of government.
Bragi
July 15th, 2004, 08:50 PM
The US is a plutocracy through and through. It's ruled of by and for the wealthy. In the US, money is everything. It is God, nature, and the purpose of life all rolled into one. That's all there is to it. Whatever you want to call it, it's simply the rich getting richer and running the show for their own benefit.
In God We Trust is printed on the dollar bill. That isn't mere coincidence. America is the lust for money and the good life it brings. Stockholder culture, corporate worship, 3rd world enslavement and exploitation. That's the America we know and hate.
Do I sound like a liberal green environmentalist hippie enough yet? You can ask an American a lot of things, but never ask them for money.
Bragi
July 15th, 2004, 09:07 PM
fas·cism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fshzm)
n.
1. often Fascism
1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.
[Italian fascismo, from fascio, group, from Late Latin fascium, from Latin fascis, bundle.]fas·cistic (f-shstk) adj.
Word History: It is fitting that the name of an authoritarian political movement like Fascism, founded in 1919 by Benito Mussolini, should come from the name of a symbol of authority. The Italian name of the movement, fascismo, is derived from fascio, “bundle, (political) group,” but also refers to the movement's emblem, the fasces, a bundle of rods bound around a projecting axe-head that was carried before an ancient Roman magistrate by an attendant as a symbol of authority and power. The name of Mussolini's group of revolutionaries was soon used for similar nationalistic movements in other countries that sought to gain power through violence and ruthlessness, such as National Socialism.
America racist? Yes. Out government is vehemently anti-white. Use of terrorism? Yes, all dissention to the Bush regime's policy is rebuked by claims that the dissenter is "for the terrorists". Terrorism is applied in the sense that it is used as a way to keep the people in fear and thrall. Turn on the news any time of day. Within 5 minutes, I guarantee that jewsmedia will be talking about the threat of terrorism. This ties in with the use of propaganda-it helps to keep the people believing that they are in constant danger and need to be protected by government activity. Centralization of authority? Jewsmedia and the government have definitely centralized all authority in the land of the free. Charismatic authority figure? Some call Dubya charismatic I suppose. I call him a stooge, a puppet, and an idiot.
So I guess you could call the Kwa a fascist plutocratic state.
Franco
July 15th, 2004, 09:08 PM
In the US, money is everything. It is God, nature, and the purpose of life all rolled into one. That's all there is to it. Whatever you want to call it, it's simply the rich getting richer and running the show for their own benefit.
In God We Trust is printed on the dollar bill. That isn't mere coincidence. America is the lust for money and the good life it brings. Stockholder culture, corporate worship, 3rd world enslavement and exploitation. That's the America we know and hate.
And.......[drumroll]......who created the Federal Reserve system? Which person played the key/main role?
Give up?
Was it.....a Catholic? Was it......an Asian? Was it......a negro? Was it.....a blonde woman?
America: Jewed.
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Bragi
July 15th, 2004, 09:14 PM
And.......[drumroll]......who created the Federal Reserve system? Which person played the key/main role?
Give up?
Was it.....a Catholic? Was it......an Asian? Was it......a negro? Was it.....a blonde woman?
America: Jewed.
[edited]
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And guess who also runs it today?
A jew. America is the big Israel across the pond.
Look at this pathetic kike fuck. What a champion of men he is.
http://www.silverscreentest.com/koala/eucalyptus/evian.jpg
So Alan, what's on the agenda for today? You gonna raise or lower the interest rate? Hmm? What a tough job you have running the Federal Reserve System.
http://www.onlineathens.com/images/042303/greenspan.jpg
FranzJoseph
July 16th, 2004, 12:49 AM
Chairman Alan is worshipped as a god-man in... China. This may mean something. Then again, the Chinese think regular Americans are wealthy and also believe Alan got them that way.
When I read about the Chinese hero-worship of this total geek nullity it really ruined my day. I never thought the chinks were geniuses but I thought they were brighter than that.
Bragi
July 22nd, 2004, 09:11 PM
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t304/T304390A.jpg
Word History: It is fitting that the name of an authoritarian political movement like Fascism, founded in 1919 by Benito Mussolini, should come from the name of a symbol of authority. The Italian name of the movement, fascismo, is derived from fascio, “bundle, (political) group,” but also refers to the movement's emblem, the fasces, a bundle of rods bound around a projecting axe-head that was carried before an ancient Roman magistrate by an attendant as a symbol of authority and power. The name of Mussolini's group of revolutionaries was soon used for similar nationalistic movements in other countries that sought to gain power through violence and ruthlessness, such as National Socialism.
Now see what the eagle has in it's left talon? A bundle of rods. The Latin source for the word fascism.
All in favor of renaming the place to Amerisrael, say aye.
Fredrik Haerne
July 24th, 2004, 08:52 AM
Fascism is simply a one-party state. One that doesn't monopolize production, like in a commie state. The parliament is advisory only, forming committees to do research on various issues and following up on old decisions. In Italy the parliament consisted of representatives from different professions. (Gorbachev would try this same kind of parliament in the 80s, when he was also softening up commie economic structures. But they didn't call it fascism then, for some reason.)
Iraq was a fascist state before it was bombed to bits. Taiwan was a fascist state for decades under the Kuomintang, but then they allowed other parties and became only a de facto fascist state, and then one of the other parties won an election and it came to an end.
Doesn't seem like the bird is holding a fasces, they look more like lightning rods to me, a different thing.
The fasces were carried by soldiers on parade in Rome, soldiers that had done exceptionally well, and it was also a sign of a judge. The bundle around an axe means, of course, two ways of punishing a criminal: whipping him or cutting off his head.
Interestingly, the fasces appears on the shield of the Swedish police:
http://www.polisen.se/static/inter/polisen.jpg
A small picture, but look closely and you can see the head of an axe protruding low and to the left of the blue field, and another to the right. A bigger picture would reveal that the shaft of the axe is wrapped in a bundle of rods. Good ol' fascism.
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