I suggest that there are two types of WN activists: nowers and thenners.

Nowers focus almost solely on, say, what Israel did 3 days ago.

Thenners -- such as me -- focus much of their activism on, say, the fact that Jews got America into both world wars [WWI and WWII].

I suggest that this is a good teaching topic. I was going to post it in Civil Forum but more people will see it here.

I also suggest that while now-type activism is important, then-type activism is largely ignored, and, that then-type activism is VITAL to WN activism [e.g. the outcome of WWII severely altered the future of the White race, while 'what Israel did yesterday' may not be of significant importance, historically speaking].

Is then-type activism 1) important; 2) largely ignored?




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People are more receptive to something timely and newsworthy. They have preconceived notions about "history" as it is taught in the usa.


Sandy Berger stealing documents out of the National Archives is VERY newsworthy. The jew media is acting like it is nothing but it is very real cuz it turned the 911 report into total bs. If what he took pointed a finger at the jew then that is important. What he did is treason. Same with George Tenant. Both are jews and go free... go figure.

Newsworthy.

The info in the book None dare call it Treason is not newsworthy although it is relevant, people don't see it as such and they percieve you as a conspiracy nut if you refer to those kind of topics.

The info in the book None dare call it Treason is not newsworthy although it is relevant, people don't see it as such and they percieve you as a conspiracy nut if you refer to those kind of topics.




Years ago, I had a sports coach who said, "if you do not know the fundamentals of the game," you will not be nearly as good of a player as someone who does know the fundamentals. I agree completely.

He who does not understand the history of the Jews over the past 100 years cannot grasp the whole Jewish picture, only parts of the picture. He may not become "sold" on WN thinking because he fails to grasp that whole Jewish picture.

And, if someone wants to call me a "conspiracy nut" for saying what I say, then that is the risk that I must take, I think.



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There is good and bad in both but there must be a balance. If you focus solely on current events you cannot adequately access the problem from its roots. However if you if you stay in the past this to can cause you trouble.

For instance the majority of the Lemmings care nothing about the past, mentions of Hitler attempting to save Germany will be brought with swift rebukes. The way is to begin with the current problem and work your way back. Establish a common ground, and remember that not all are knowledgeable as we are in racial matters.

The best way to establish a common ground is to talk about crime, rising gas prices ect. This will get people interested in what you have to say and then go back to history to the root. One or two details will be enough unless they hunger for more. Give them to much and they will forget quickly. No matter how tempted or what kind of a roll you get on don’t give them to much at once or more than they can handle. Give them just enough to think about because if you become a “Race thumper” then they will resent you. Give them some good information plant the seed and move on to something else, one doesn’t have to go around quoting Hitler 24 hours a day 7 days a week to be effective.

But those of us that are hardcore racists do need to know history and it’s mistakes and successes while remembering we are living in the present and looking to a whiter future.

I myself love history and realize the importance of knowing how we got where we are at but to the average lemming or would be racist history is to complicated to grasp quickly. It takes a while to become a good racist and build the proper foundation, if someone becomes a racist overnight and doesn’t fully understand why then they will crumble under the first sign of strain.

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Did the Marines in WW2 have all their privates spend years studying the last 100 years of Japanese history? Cranks study and read about the Jews mostly as a substitute for doing anything about them.
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It's just as easy to bayonnet a Jew as a Jap.
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I've met cranks who have spent 50 years reading about the Jews. They remind me of baseball fans who know the name of the left-hand pitcher who had the lowest era in 1938, but they won't go outside and play catch with their grandson.
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You bring up a good point. I think I tend to look at the jewish question both in the now and the then. One difficulty I see with revisionist activism is that Americans are largely set in their minds about the events of WWII and most other 20th Century historical things.

The propaganda employed by the Feds in that time is such that the average American has been deluded into believing that good ol' American boys went over there and whipped the Nazi menace which was bent on world domination and brutal dictatorship. After they beat the Huns, there was spawned the baby boom (or the "greatest generation" as America's sixty-somethings considers themselves :rolleyes: ), the true rise of American might, the cold war to defeat communism, and numerous other supposedly patriotic movements.

I always find it odd that people don't question why we allied with the Red Commies to beat Hitler and then immediately after doing so, Communism became the bitter enemy of Western Capitalism. What an unholy alliance the Allies were that the Allies of Britain would join the Reds. And it was the Russians that took the brunt in numbers lost and resources spent.

National Socialism was working well for Germany and they had thrown off the yoke of jewish banking and media control. International Jewry couldn't have that, and all their forces became aimed at the total destruction of their rebellious colony Germany.

Though most revisionists have learned better and realize that the good guys lost WWII, it would be a mighty task to convince the man on the street that this was the case. History, for most people, and especially concerning the jewish question, is an open and shut case. The jews have brainwashed their slaves all too well.

Look at Ernst Zundel, banging on the dead horse of the Holohoax. Now he's rotting in a cell somewhere for trying to question the jewish version of events. An activist could point this out, that freedom of speech ends with the jew, and the freedom loving lemming thinks "well we can't have another 6 million chosenites killed by mindless hate".

I believe it is in the now where our case must be made. If Christianity continues in it's death throes among intelligent white people, then maybe just maybe White nationalism can get off the ground and made into something our enemies must reckon with. As it stands these insufferable philo-semitic Judeo Christians are nothing more than walking ATM machines for the mostrosity that Christianity has become. There is a reason the Church is so eagerly recruting non-whites. This is because young whites are leaving en masse or not joining in the first place, and the church is forced to look to the brown tide for it's ever present financial assistance efforts. Who discriminates when it comes to sources of cash? The church is a precursor of what America is rapidly becoming-a deracinated, multicultural polyglot of mental midgets on a jewish plantation.

There is so much evidence of the jewish hand in the downfall of the American Empire-the war in Iraq, the crap on TV, the mindless garbage flowing out of Hymiewood, Israel's crimes against the Pals, illegal Immigration and enormous Legal Immigration from the third world, incredible government inefficiency and waster, etc. We just have uncover the lies and find the hooknosed sheenies behind the scenes spewing their filth and sewage in every direction. History is far more abundant with all the arguments we could dream of, but we have to keep it in the here and now, as our audience is asleep in the first place, and none too bright in the second.

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Did the Marines in WW2 have all their privates spend years studying the last 100 years of Japanese history? Cranks study and read about the Jews mostly as a substitute for doing anything about them.
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It's just as easy to bayonnet a Jew as a Jap.
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I've met cranks who have spent 50 years reading about the Jews. They remind me of baseball fans who know the name of the left-hand pitcher who had the lowest era in 1938, but they won't go outside and play catch with their grandson.***[/QUOTE]

Very true.

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I always find it odd that people don't question why we allied with the Red Commies to beat Hitler and then immediately after doing so, Communism became the bitter enemy of Western Capitalism.

I believe it is in the now where our case must be made. If Christianity continues in it's death throes among intelligent white people, then maybe just maybe White nationalism can get off the ground and made into something our enemies must reckon with.[/QUOTE]


Actually at the point we are right now the cause isn't as imporntant as the cure.

No one can come up with any sort of plan or answer other than expel the Jews and or Christians.

By expeling the Jews and anyone that follows them we would have a white nation, but then comes ot the point of how to do so.

The irrefutable fact remains when America was dominantly Christian America was dominantly racist.

Now our young are leaving the religious circles to go to the MTV culture of race mixing and African and Jew worship.

It isn’t Christians that produce MTV and it isn’t Christians that make Adam Sandler films it is the Jews.

To point the finger at the Christians is to take the heat away from the real culprit and go after a tangent without recognizing the target.

If you do actually believe Christians are part of the problem and destroy all Christians (which is not possible) then you will have never gotten near the root of the problem.

It seems to me like there are more people on VNNF that are anti-Christian than they are Anti-Jew.

Example Dr Antichrist doesn’t use the name Dr Anti-Semite. Jews are Anti-Christ’s as even the Bible so plainly teaches.

So therefore a Jew educated in the medical field could be a Dr Antichrist.

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Did the Marines in WW2 have all their privates spend years studying the last 100 years of Japanese history? Cranks study and read about the Jews mostly as a substitute for doing anything about them.
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It's just as easy to bayonnet a Jew as a Jap.
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I've met cranks who have spent 50 years reading about the Jews. They remind me of baseball fans who know the name of the left-hand pitcher who had the lowest era in 1938, but they won't go outside and play catch with their grandson.
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Why the fuck would the Marines in WWII teach Japanese history to their troops? They would not need to know about Japanese history to shoot at them, now would they? Would they?

I think that you completely missed the point of my post.

And I also wonder -- as a poster and not a mod -- why you would suggest that people who simply study Jewish history are cranks. If those people are warning others about Jews, then they are not cranks.

Do you suggest that people not study their enemies? Does one build a house first and then study carpentry? Would you suggest such a method?





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And I also wonder -- as a poster and not a mod -- why you would suggest that people who simply study Jewish history are cranks. If those people are warning others about Jews, then they are not cranks.

Do you suggest that people not study their enemies? Does one build a house first and then study carpentry? Would you suggest such a method?

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I don’t think he was aiming that at you but rather the hordes of Net Nazis that hid behind a computer screen, work for the Jew and never dare tell anyone they are racist. In that case I agree with him totally.

However I spend a lot of time studying Jewish History from the standpoint of thousands of years ago. There has always been a pattern to the Jews dominance and they ALWAYS self-destruct, that is why I am not the least bit concerned. They have had stronger holds on past civilizations (Daniel and Jacob was second in charge in their individual times). Their ego ALWAYS causes their downfall. Right now the majority of WN’s are playing into their hands white their “ZOG is all powerful speeches”. The very fact is the more powerful the Jews are the weaker they become.

They held complete power in Germany and a nobody that was nothing more than a street agitator rose to greatness and conquered them in a matter of a couple years. They become arrogant and flaunt their wealth and power and the population eventually gets sick of their persecuted speeches and turns on them.

Studying history gives you hope and knowledge.

Hatred for no reason just makes you paranoid and leaves you in despair searching for the cause of your failures.

Every failure I have made has been my own doing.

What others have done to me is my duty to resolve the situation.

In the end we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

Every white that didn’t protest when Africans moved in their neighborhood is to blame, every white that didn’t rise up when their job was sent to India is to blame, and every white that does not put a stop to their daughter’s interracial boyfriend is to blame.

And every white that does not act white and teach his/her children white values is to blame.

The Jew is just doing what they are programmed to do and the African doesn’t know any better.

Whites have the intelligence and the power to stop both and when they don’t then they cannot blame anyone else.

I agree with Doc Martin about Okie's comment; crank, cook, conspiracy theorist, antisemite, that is what we few are considered. We study the Jewish problem and discuss it.
GIs don't. They don't have the time or the inclination or access to information. They don't know what we handful of "cranks" do. Else they would, to a (White) man, refuse to be in Israel's slave army. The men of WWII would have resisted fighting Germany if they had known what Lindbergh did.
I suppose it's a Kike shrink term, but gestalt is what we "cranks" should strive for in ourselves; an awareness of the Jewish agenda and modus through time to the present.
We can't impart that to the masses, though. It's too much. They are too brainwashed and immersed in the proposphere. GIs do what they are told to do. Soccer-moms, etc. believe what FOXNews and their pastor tell them to believe.
They must be made to connect the dots on this latest naked World-crime the International Syndicate of Jewry has committed against the US. I think that is possible and should get the ball rolling toward their downfall.
Someday "Then" will be taught in school again like it should be and once was. "Now" will no longer exist as an issue.

[QUOTE=Franco]Why the fuck would the Marines in WWII teach Japanese history to their troops? They would not need to know about Japanese history to shoot at them, now would they? Would they?

I think that you completely missed the point of my post.

And I also wonder -- as a poster and not a mod -- why you would suggest that people who simply study Jewish history are cranks. If those people are warning others about Jews, then they are not cranks.

Do you suggest that people not study their enemies? Does one build a house first and then study carpentry? Would you suggest such a method?





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[QUOTE=MOMUS]We study the Jewish problem and discuss it.
GIs don't. They don't have the time or the inclination or access to information. They don't know what we handful of "cranks" do.
Soccer-moms, etc. believe what FOXNews and their pastor tell them to believe.
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That is why we have a 60-year-old General that has spent his life studying the enemy and mapping out a solution. ;)

Give us a leader that has shown he has a solution and it is working and it doesn’t matter what everyone knows they will follow when they see the results.

People by nature follow prosperity that is why people blindly follow Celebes and millionaires no matter how wacky they may seem.