Any groups forming? There must be at least a few WN that are not suicidal.

Well, I'm a survival group of one so far.

I have seldom heard the word "survival" in a SHTF context on this forum.

Live! in Seattle.

I'll keep trying. I'm in New Jersey.

4 months now without a reply. Is this the Jews' fault? Your house is surrounded by the Mossad?

4 months now without a reply. Is this the Jews' fault? Your house is surrounded by the Mossad?

I'm beginning to have my doubts about you considering this thread and many of your more recent posts in the other forums. For me anyway, "Forming a survival group" sounds an awful lot like "hey stupid, won't you let us entrap you?"

Here's an idea for you "Mack." Why not just go to work each day, save your money, buy some food, maybe a hunting rifle so you can bag a deer this season, and pretty much mind your own business?

If something happens then deal with it when it happens. You're wasting time NOW worrying about something that may not happen at all.

Of course your presence here may be for other reasons. Not sure yet.

Here's an idea for you "Mack." Why not just go to work each day, save your money, buy some food, maybe a hunting rifle so you can bag a deer this season, and pretty much mind your own business?
Or start a survival group discussion with people you already know - your neighbors and others who will actually be nearby when the SHTF. There are plenty of survivalist forums on the net, but they don't try to set up meetings among anonymous posters. Family, close friends and trusted neighbors...that's your survivalist group, Mack.

I'm beginning to have my doubts about you considering this thread and many of your more recent posts in the other forums. For me anyway, "Forming a survival group" sounds an awful lot like "hey stupid, won't you let us entrap you?"

Here's an idea for you "Mack." Why not just go to work each day, save your money, buy some food, maybe a hunting rifle so you can bag a deer this season, and pretty much mind your own business?

If something happens then deal with it when it happens. You're wasting time NOW worrying about something that may not happen at all.

Of course your presence here may be for other reasons. Not sure yet.

A survivalist group is a "trap". Storing canned tuna is a hate crime? No wonder Whites cannot do anything for themselves.

Or start a survival group discussion with people you already know - your neighbors and others who will actually be nearby when the SHTF. There are plenty of survivalist forums on the net, but they don't try to set up meetings among anonymous posters. Family, close friends and trusted neighbors...that's your survivalist group, Mack.

Fellow Whites are "anonymous strangers"? FYI, every survivalist discussion I've read over the past 8 years on the internet has always ended with the reality that in order to survive one must do so within the context of a community.

That's how civilization works. What happens when one of your friends needs a doctor? Your kid needs medicine? Give them a Kashi Bar stored in your basement?

What happens when an MS-13 gang or 20 Blacks surround your house demaning all your food and your 12 year old daughter?

Who will help you?

Fellow Whites are "anonymous strangers"? FYI, every survivalist discussion I've read over the past 8 years on the internet has always ended with the reality that in order to survive one must do so within the context of a community.

That's how civilization works. What happens when one of your friends needs a doctor? Your kid needs medicine? Give them a Kashi Bar stored in your basement?

What happens when an MS-13 gang or 20 Blacks surround your house demaning all your food and your 12 year old daughter?

Who will help you?Yes, those whom you know only as pseudonyms on an internet forum are "anonymous strangers."

Did you not understand my post? When that MS-13 gang shows up at your house, neither OTPTT nor Bwana nor odin will be able to help you. The community you seek must be found within a few miles of where you live. You need to find them in the real world, not the internet.

Hey! That's a great idea "Mack"!
Let's all get together at your place this weekend so's we can discuss survivalism and mutual assistance.
I, for one, will be quite willing to drop everything and come to your immediate aid as New Jersey is only a scant 9hr drive away for me.
What is your address and phone number?
I'll be right over!:rolleyes:

Yes, those whom you know only as pseudonyms on an internet forum are "anonymous strangers."

Did you not understand my post? When that MS-13 gang shows up at your house, neither OTPTT nor Bwana nor odin will be able to help you. The community you seek must be found within a few miles of where you live. You need to find them in the real world, not the internet.

Well then, I just ask my Jew neighbor next door or the stupid white man across the street who hires illegals or the blacks at the end of the block.
Or perhaps ask the mestizos who have taken over the apts 2 block away for help.

Or maybe just ask any stupid white in town and see the look of perpetual confusion?

If WN cannot and will not help other whites then I wish you would all STFU already about your stupid propaganda.

Hey! That's a great idea "Mack"!
Let's all get together at your place this weekend so's we can discuss survivalism and mutual assistance.
I, for one, will be quite willing to drop everything and come to your immediate aid as New Jersey is only a scant 9hr drive away for me.
What is your address and phone number?
I'll be right over!:rolleyes:

Are you saying Whites supporting each other is stupid and wrong? Then why all the fucking whining on WN forums? Stop whining about Jews, Blacks, illegals, Obama and the rest. There is nothing you can do about it as you're a fucking coward.

Well then, I just ask my Jew neighbor next door or the stupid white man across the street who hires illegals or the blacks at the end of the block.
Or perhaps ask the mestizos who have taken over the apts 2 block away for help.

Or maybe just ask any stupid white in town and see the look of perpetual confusion?

If WN cannot and will not help other whites then I wish you would all STFU already about your stupid propaganda.Maybe you should move.

My primary WN survival group is my family.

The other secondary social associations I have right now are all the same ones we can turn to wtshtf.

The last place I would look for a survival group is on the internet.

You need ties that bind like blood, history, faith, location, work, hobbies, etc. Internet generally puts you in touch with total remote strangers and for all one knows they could be working for the bad guys, anyhow. Everybody in one's SHTF plan must be vetted by years of personal local association.

Every future post-collapse clan or fiefdom is one that has its network already laid right now in organic patterns of social association. You can't make up a club for such things on the internet.

You can't make up a club for such things on the internet.

I'm thinking "Mack" is a fisherman wishing to catch a couple to skin and put in the freezer at a later date. He's using the wrong bait since most of the fish here prefer to brown bag it.

Is "Mack" a fisherman or a "fisher of men"? Lol!

To the 450 lurkers of this thread you will see not only the empirical evidence as to why Whites go nowhere but the real, clear and present danger.

To the 450 lurkers of this thread you will see not only the empirical evidence as to why Whites go nowhere but the real, clear and present danger.

Aww shaddup suzi.

Aww shaddup suzi.

Thanks for bumping the thread. Whites needs to shown over and over where the fundamental problem is.

Bump.

Whites needs to shown over and over where the fundamental problem is.As if you'd have a clue.:rolleyes:

As if you'd have a clue.:rolleyes:

Well, why don't you educate us "clueless" Whites. What's the plan? If it involves "internet" then don't bother.

"Us"...?:confused:
Do you have a mouse in your pocket, "Mack"?

Thanks for bumping the thread again.

I agree that everybody's primary survival group should be their immediate family. The goal should be the highest level of self sufficiency one can comfortably maintain. Livestock and a garden means more family time and less time in front of the jew tube. Can ye handle it?

No wonder Whites cannot do anything for themselves.Yeah, like drive a small distance to make all your wants become a reality. :rolleyes:

Don't have kids. As far as the ms13 or niggers, they will have to eat MANY 7.62x39 roundsFellow Whites are "anonymous strangers"? FYI, every survivalist discussion I've read over the past 8 years on the internet has always ended with the reality that in order to survive one must do so within the context of a community.

That's how civilization works. What happens when one of your friends needs a doctor? Your kid needs medicine? Give them a Kashi Bar stored in your basement?

What happens when an MS-13 gang or 20 Blacks surround your house demaning all your food and your 12 year old daughter?

Who will help you?

Mack,

If you're really in New Jersey and interested, I am attempting to get some folks together this weekend* for a survival group meeting at my home in North Bergen.

If you know of any trustworthy individuals, please gather them up and bring them...the more the merrier!

Also, I'll be holding an informal workshop on how to create silencers from common materials and the proper way to shorten a shotgun down to a 'tactical' length! (lol!)

The fun starts Saturday at 11am EST!

My address is:

1906 PATERSON PLANK ROAD
NORTH BERGEN, NJ 07047-1900






* (If the Mossad doesn't eliminate me first!)

Mack,

If you're really in New Jersey and interested, I am attempting to get some folks together this weekend* for a survival group meeting at my home in North Bergen.

If you know of any trustworthy individuals, please gather them up and bring them...the more the merrier!

Also, I'll be holding an informal workshop on how to create silencers from common materials and the proper way to shorten a shotgun down to a 'tactical' length! (lol!)

The fun starts Saturday at 11am EST!

My address is:

1906 PATERSON PLANK ROAD
NORTH BERGEN, NJ 07047-1900






* (If the Mossad doesn't eliminate me first!)

You find it amusing of Whites trying to save themselves?

Depending on the who/what/when/where/how/why, it can be pretty amusing.

Depending on the who/what/when/where/how/why, it can be pretty amusing.

That's why Whites continue to lose.

I'll keep trying. I'm in New Jersey.
http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=27637&postcount=19 :swastikasmiley:

That's why Whites continue to lose.Ok man, you win. We're going to have a small get together (diner) in NJ on the 24th. You down?

Ok man, you win. We're going to have a small get together (diner) in NJ on the 24th. You down?

Yes. Kindly PM me.

... Internet generally puts you in touch with total remote strangers and for all one knows they could be working for the bad guys, anyhow...Howdy, strangerWell, I'm a survival group of one so far...Lone Wolfism is surely the securest form. Not only for survival. But, also for guerilla activity. The only people I can fully trust are those I met 30 years ago. Well, I wasn't in Europe, back then

Mack,

If you're really in New Jersey and interested, I am attempting to get some folks together this weekend* for a survival group meeting at my home in North Bergen.

If you know of any trustworthy individuals, please gather them up and bring them...the more the merrier!

Also, I'll be holding an informal workshop on how to create silencers from common materials and the proper way to shorten a shotgun down to a 'tactical' length! (lol!)

The fun starts Saturday at 11am EST!

My address is:

1906 PATERSON PLANK ROAD
NORTH BERGEN, NJ 07047-1900

* (If the Mossad doesn't eliminate me first!)

That's too funny. Yes, I'll be there. 11am sharp. I'll bring some venison backstrap steaks and all of my papers and manuals on building nuclear bombs.

[QUOTE=odin;876801]Yes, those whom you know only as pseudonyms on an internet forum are "anonymous strangers."

obvious but worth saying again, YES THAT IS RIGHT.

........ The community you seek must be found within a few miles of where you live. You need to find them in the real world, not the internet


again this should be obvious but its worth stating

One easy way to meet other "survivalist" types in your neck of the woods is to join a gun club. Start shooting IDPA or IPSC. Dont reveal all your ideas until you've reconnoitered and identified like minded folks.

4H is a good way to meet farmers. Again this should be obvious to folks but it isnt. Learn to grow food, that's your most important survival skill. Takes an afternoon to learn to shoot, takes years to learn to garden.

Howdy, strangerLone Wolfism is surely the securest form. Not only for survival. But, also for guerilla activity. The only people I can fully trust are those I met 30 years ago. Well, I wasn't in Europe, back then

Lone anything is the surest way to ensure Whites lose whatever culture they have left.

Whites should not be afraid to associate with each other for any reason. A few people meeting for a Survivalism group is not dangerous by any means. In fact, Survivalist groups are now in vogue around the world. Especially with the economy heading towards a bonafide depression.

It's the Lone Wolfs that won't survive the coming anarchy, riots and destruction. Civilization depends on Humans cooperationg with each other. And no was ever won by Lone Wolfs.

And you can bet all the other 'minorites' will band together like glue when society starts to break down. In fact, they already have their groups in place. Except for the suicidial White man and women.

...One easy way to meet other "survivalist" types in your neck of the woods is to join a gun club...4H is a good way to meet farmers...Joining AA is the best way to meet both groups at 1 time

I think the only folks that are going to survive an all out war are those that are both physically and mentally prepared. You are going to have to be willing to eat whatever plants, berries and game that live where you live. Within weeks all the canned goodies will be gone. Hate to say it but gold and silver won't buy you anything out here. You might be able to barter for some ammo or clothing but that's going to be about the extent of it. Our people will be thrown back into the 1600s without the knowledge that their ancestors had. Get a set of Foxfire (I think that's what they're called) while you can still find them. I'd also get survival training manuals (Special Forces, Pilots, ect) and read them and then put them up for right now. Your survival may damn well depend on what you learn out of those books.

Your survival may damn well depend on what you learn out of those books.
Your prosperity may damn well depend on how many books you sell.

http://www.natvan.com/images/wlp_hadley.jpg

Lone anything is the surest way to ensure Whites lose whatever culture they have left.

I generally agree that human cooperation is the essence of society, and that networking is important.

I disagree that you meet people on the internet to do it.


[quote]Whites should not be afraid to associate with each other for any reason.

Disagree. They should be afraid to associate with people who may be working for the government as informants or provocateurs. This government, or foreign ones, or, private associations which are in the business of inciting and provoking violations of laws which benefit "the usual suspects."

A few people meeting for a Survivalism group is not dangerous by any means.

Sir, we know some people pulling time because they choose to go out shooting targets recreationally with the wrong people.

Not to mention in some states there are socalled "antimilitia laws." I wont bore you with the details, surely you must know about them.

Just as a post-script, you may not also know that most of thoes "anti militia laws" were passed in states where the govt was scared shitless by Frazier Glenn Miller's WPP. That is VNNF user "rounder" in case you didnt know.

Anyhow, I think it should be obvious now why VNNers are loathe to associate with faceless strangers on the internet, especially involving matters concerning potential government collapse and firearms. LOL

Lots of activists at VNN. Activists stay active by staying legal. And staying away from troublesome individuals who mock caution.

Well, why don't you educate us "clueless" Whites. What's the plan? If it involves "internet" then don't bother.You have been prowling the internet too log sooz.

You have been prowling the internet too log sooz.
Let her know where to meet with high quality activists.

www.meetup.com

I generally agree that human cooperation is the essence of society, and that networking is important.

I disagree that you meet people on the internet to do it.


[quote]

Disagree. They should be afraid to associate with people who may be working for the government as informants or provocateurs. This government, or foreign ones, or, private associations which are in the business of inciting and provoking violations of laws which benefit "the usual suspects."



Sir, we know some people pulling time because they choose to go out shooting targets recreationally with the wrong people.

Not to mention in some states there are socalled "antimilitia laws." I wont bore you with the details, surely you must know about them.

Just as a post-script, you may not also know that most of thoes "anti militia laws" were passed in states where the govt was scared shitless by Frazier Glenn Miller's WPP. That is VNNF user "rounder" in case you didnt know.

Anyhow, I think it should be obvious now why VNNers are loathe to associate with faceless strangers on the internet, especially involving matters concerning potential government collapse and firearms. LOL

Lots of activists at VNN. Activists stay active by staying legal. And staying away from troublesome individuals who mock caution.

Who's asking to meet about firearms? The internet is now the public meeting place. How did all the Ron Paul supporters get together? Through meet-ups off the internet or hiding in fear in a forum? Did they round up all the Ron Paul supporters?

Survivalist group is not a "milita" so why do you people keep pushing the paranoia? Survivalism and groups are now mainstream. In fact, the globalists are preparing in a "Survivalist" fashion and are open about it. What do they know that you don't?

That's why WN goes no where because you all remain "faceless strangers". And that's exactly the position your enemies want you in.

on the contrary, we arent all faceless strangers. some of us know each other. our people meet at appropriate times and places for lawful and constructive activities.

but you dont konw me and I dont know you. and without any offense to you my good fellow, lets keep it that way.

but just so we can get to know each other a lil bit better, let me ask you a question. you said:

"wn goes nowhere... because you all."

This presumes that you are not one of us. Not a white nationalist. Let me ask you, are you a white gentile? if not why are you here?

if you are a white gentile, but do not count yourself a white nationalist, what is your opinion about the following three topics of public interest:

1- federal government forced desegregation of public schools

2- fair housing laws that prevent people from associating in neighborhoods on the basis of race religion or national origin

3-- the Supreme Court's action in Loving Vs Virginina in 1791, which struck down state laws against miscegenation? that is, laws banning interracial marriage?

I guess I would need to know what a person thought about these topics before I ever contemplated cutting them into my survival plans. I dont want a bunch of matzoh ball eating, gefilte fish breathed nigger loving chickenshit integrationists supposedly watching my six ya know?

...join a gun club. Start shooting IDPA or IPSC...A possible starting point:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=136408

A possible starting point:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=136408

well here is a list of local shooting ranges. usually there is a club associated with a range

http://www.nrahq.org/shootingrange/findlocal.asp

tip: dont walk in and immediately start talking about "the collapse" or "when the balloon goes up." leave your copy of Turner Tagebuchen at home.

I generally agree that human cooperation is the essence of society, and that networking is important.

I disagree that you meet people on the internet to do it.


[quote]

One way to do things is to join a rock climbing group, or similar club/group that is involved with practical skills. That group most likely will not have niggers in it. You are not there to create a 'militia' but to learn skills and maybe meet a likeminded person. Don't count on the meeting a fellow WN part.

Examples: rock climbing, orienteering (map and compass), primitive skills groups (blacksmithing, etc).


[QUOTE]Sir, we know some people pulling time because they choose to go out shooting targets recreationally with the wrong people.

Not to mention in some states there are socalled "antimilitia laws." I wont bore you with the details, surely you must know about them.

Just as a post-script, you may not also know that most of thoes "anti militia laws" were passed in states where the govt was scared shitless by Frazier Glenn Miller's WPP. That is VNNF user "rounder" in case you didnt know.

Ah, now I know why North Carolina has such laws.

Anyhow, I think it should be obvious now why VNNers are loathe to associate with faceless strangers on the internet, especially involving matters concerning potential government collapse and firearms. LOL

Lots of activists at VNN. Activists stay active by staying legal. And staying away from troublesome individuals who mock caution.

I recommend doing a search on the 'food storage' thread I started. Lots of links there on survival related items.

IF you live in a White neighborhood, start a community watch. Start with flashlights and walkie-talkies. You can expand from there and someone once wrote an article about "neighborhood watch on steroids" which details how such a group can become a defacto militia during crisis times. That keeps you from violating the law and yet allows you to exercise security in your area. The bottom line is know your neighbors. Most people don't do that anymore. Instead of community cohesiveness, everyone remains in their cocoon of a home with plasma tv, internet, etc.

Also, idea place:
SurvivalBlog.com (http://www.survivalblog.com/)

One way to do things is to join a rock climbing group, or similar club/group that is involved with practical skills. That group most likely will not have niggers in it. You are not there to create a 'militia' but to learn skills and maybe meet a likeminded person. Don't count on the meeting a fellow WN part.

Examples: rock climbing, orienteering (map and compass), primitive skills groups (blacksmithing, etc).


............
IF you live in a White neighborhood, start a community watch. Start with flashlights and walkie-talkies. You can expand from there and someone once wrote an article about "neighborhood watch on steroids" which details how such a group can become a defacto militia during crisis times. That keeps you from violating the law and yet allows you to exercise security in your area. The bottom line is know your neighbors. Most people don't do that anymore. Instead of community cohesiveness, everyone remains in their cocoon of a home with plasma tv, internet, etc.

Also, idea place:
SurvivalBlog.com (http://www.survivalblog.com/)

THats kind of what I'm suggesting. If you want to be a survivalist, cultivate the really important survival skills. Take a CPR class for example.

"Militias" are not mainstream. I dont know how this fellow got his version of mainstream but he must be stuck in the old Bo Gritz days before MacVeight and OKC. Crikey. Maybe one of Norm Oleson's boys, running around Michigan in cammies with those tricked out skses? I knew those guys were a bunch of jagoffs the first time I saw them on tv with sks rifles with detatchable box magazines in place of the usual 10 rd box and stripper clip setup. With a piece of shit detachable box magazine on your sks, here's what you've accomplished: 1-- taken a reliable feeding system and turned it into something prone to jamming, 2-- removed your ability to fire from a low profile prone position, and 3- made yourself look like a fucking jackass

THats kind of what I'm suggesting. If you want to be a survivalist, cultivate the really important survival skills. Take a CPR class for example.

I agree though it is nigh impossible for one man, or even two, to carry out security on their property. This is where groups come in. Neighborhood Watch taken up a notch.

Many things one can learn on their own. I bought an Army field manual on map reading and orientation, some topo maps of my area at the local camping store, and a really good compass. I practiced with it. I also practiced direction, which many people don't know though in the day it is easy with sun and still many are morons in figuring it out. Sewing, tanning and hidecraft, trapping, woodworking. In other words, learn to do as much as you can without the system. By doing so, one can not only survive hard times, but pick the pockets of the jew, too, as Paul Drake would say. After all, if you make it, the jew isn't getting a profit on it.

Many survivalists go for the rural retreat. I have read some articles that caution against this and I agree. The reasoning is that one is isolated. I am reminded of the farmers in South Africa. The optimum, conventional wisdom goes, is to be in a small town with people you know and trust for neighbors.


"Militias" are not mainstream. I dont know how this fellow got his version of mainstream but he must be stuck in the old Bo Gritz days before MacVeight and OKC. I remember listening to Bo's show on shortwave. He was really pissed when he was going to run for Pres. and a 'racist' was added to the ticket, or knocked him out of his spot and he was pissed. Maybe it was Duke?

Crikey. Maybe one of Norm Oleson's boys, running around Michigan in cammies with those tricked out skses? I knew those guys were a bunch of jagoffs the first time I saw them on tv with sks rifles with detatchable box magazines in place of the usual 10 rd box and stripper clip setup. With a piece of shit detachable box magazine on your sks, here's what you've accomplished: 1-- taken a reliable feeding system and turned it into something prone to jamming, 2-- removed your ability to fire from a low profile prone position, and 3- made yourself look like a fucking jackassOlson loved the tv jewsmedia and their cameras. Stick a camera in front of him and he wouldn't shut up. He was also allied with the likes of nigger militiaman JJ Johnson, who was in some Congressional hearings on the militias.

One group involved in the militia movement that seems to be real and who NAMES THE FILTHY JEWS but won't name the nigger is Mark Koernke. I really like Mark. He got jailed for a while but has been out and his radio show is now online. He gives penny pinching solutions, tactical and strategic ideas and planning. The guy is like a how-to on guerrilla warfare. They have some youtube vids, as well, and seem to take their training pretty seriously if the vids are any indication. Mark, BTW, got his own page at ADL.
http://www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com/

Anti-Semitic themes also occupied increasing space in Koernke's broadcasts. In 1995, Koernke denied being a "racist, sexist, anti- Semitic or any type of hate monger." Yet in his broadcasts, references to Jews - usually using the phrase "Kosher mafia," less often the "Oy boys" - became common. In July 1999, during a crisis involving a supporter in Michigan about to be arrested by the ATF (Koernke successfully urged the man to become a fugitive rather than turn himself in), Koernke warned that the ATF could not be trusted on the "kosher mafia holiday" that gave Jews a dispensation to lie, presumably a reference to anti-Semitic interpretations of the Kol Nidre prayer. A month later, Koernke claimed that the kosher mafia believed that anyone who was not Jewish was not human. Television news personalities like Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw and Ted Koppel, were all "criminals involved with the kosher mafia." Don Boettcher, one of Koernke's co-hosts, has also expressed anti-Semitic sentiments on the air. Guests on the show like Michigan teacher Jack Otto have introduced anti-Semitic theories.

http://www.adl.org/Learn/Ext_US/koernke.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=2&item=koernke

YouTube - Colonial Marines

YouTube - Mark Koernke : How It Will Start

yep bo didnt like racists because he swore he was part cherokee or some bullshit. I met him once and he looked like purebred anglo-scot to me.

he was buddies with the trochmans, who were jew wise, but always lied about it to the media.

mad mark-- i remember his old radio show. he's on again I guess.

thanks for the memories!

yep bo didnt like racists because he swore he was part cherokee or some bullshit. I met him once and he looked like purebred anglo-scot to me.

he was buddies with the trochmans, who were jew wise, but always lied about it to the media.

mad mark-- i remember his old radio show. he's on again I guess.

thanks for the memories!

Yeah. I still listen to Mark and he is still doing what he does. He has had some guest appearances on Alex Jones that are pretty good. They are on youtube.

As for Gritz, didn't he marry an Asian? I am pretty sure he did. I know for sure that Bill Cooper was. Of course, Cooper died in a shootout some years ago.

The Trochmans, as far as I know, still have the Militia of Montana going. They have a website selling books and videos anyway.

Another leftover is Christian Patriot Bookseller from Oregon. I have bought several books from them. They have an entire section on jews, federal reserve, etc. I think they even carry Tragedy and Hope and Imperium. I recommend them to anyone looking for hard to find books.

[QUOTE=deathtozog;928129]

As for Gritz, didn't he marry an Asian? I am pretty sure he did. I know for sure that Bill Cooper was. Of course, Cooper died in a shootout some years ago.

Cooper used to say he was a Cherokee half caste too if I recall. But he had a fun radio show that banged the shit out of Israel and Zionists and Mossad, "The Hour of the Time." But he was kooky and saw lots of UFOs. He had a shootout with the freakin local sheriff if I recall correctly which is too bad and in the end he achieved nothing by getting his ticket punched.

The Trochmans, as far as I know, still have the Militia of Montana going. They have a website selling books and videos anyway. Must be lonely up there without Pastor Butler stirring the pot. CI was one ideological glue for the patriots and Bircher antiglobalism was another. Both are inferior to frank and genuine WN.

Cooper used to say he was a Cherokee half caste too if I recall. But he had a fun radio show that banged the shit out of Israel and Zionists and Mossad, "The Hour of the Time." But he was kooky and saw lots of UFOs. He had a shootout with the freakin local sheriff if I recall correctly which is too bad and in the end he achieved nothing by getting his ticket punched.

I watched some youtubes of Cooper yesterday with one entitled "It's not the jews" although Cooper did name the jew. In his book, "Behold A Pale Horse", he had a photo of his wife and child. The wife was a zipperhead.

By watching the Cooper vids, the related videos showed some Alex Jones debunking vids, some of which talked about how he will not name the jew under any circumstances.

Must be lonely up there without Pastor Butler stirring the pot. CI was one ideological glue for the patriots and Bircher antiglobalism was another. Both are inferior to frank and genuine WN.

There is still James P. Wickstrom and Pete Peters. Peters is still on shortwave, for those CI folks that may read this. He must be getting some donations because WWCR is expensive airtime. I used to get Wickstrom dvds and he has a really good one on usury and real money, about the Fed Reserve. So, some of those guys are still out there.

There is still James P. Wickstrom and Pete Peters. Peters is still on shortwave, for those CI folks that may read this. He must be getting some donations because WWCR is expensive airtime. I used to get Wickstrom dvds and he has a really good one on usury and real money, about the Fed Reserve. So, some of those guys are still out there.

i remember 5.065 was the frequency for a while they carried "american dissident voices."

pete peters had a great show on MLK.

wickstrom, I never heard his show but he did a lot with the posse comitatus in illinois that predated the militia movement -- back to gordon von kahl days. wickstrom's still out there, somebody bombed his storefront church a few years back as I recall.

i remember 5.065 was the frequency for a while they carried "american dissident voices."

pete peters had a great show on MLK.

wickstrom, I never heard his show but he did a lot with the posse comitatus in illinois that predated the militia movement -- back to gordon von kahl days. wickstrom's still out there, somebody bombed his storefront church a few years back as I recall.

I don't think that I have heard ADV on the air in years. Frequency used now is 5070 (WWCR) in evenings. I used to listen on Saturday nights, IIRC. That was before I had the internet. Also, used to catch Hal Turner on Mon or Tues nights on jewboy Alan Weiner's WBCQ station. Weiner not long ago went on a rant about his support of free speech and the grief he got from his fellow ADL jews over allowing Hal Turner on his station.

Pete Peters, when you add up the hours and frequencies, is probably on more than 24 hours in a day's time.

Wickstrom is a CI preacher, like Pete Peters. Wickstrom is no longer with Posse Comitatus. I remember ZOG was close to shitting its pants over Posse Comitatus years ago. I have quite a few dvds of Wickstrom's Saturday sermons and they are pretty good. He names the jews, stresses cleanliness and hygene to Whites, etc. Good stuff.

Gordon Kahl story is on youtube. I have not had time to watch it and have not ever ordered the original video. Just read bits and pieces.

A real time world disaster map. Very neat.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index.php?lang=eng

Gordon Kahl story is on youtube. I have not had time to watch it and have not ever ordered the original video. Just read bits and pieces.

its a good example of how a farmer with balls got out too far ahead of those encouraging him and in the end the jackboots just stomped his ass and burned him alive and now nobody much wants to remember him now.

Its a lot of badass mofos who want to do this and do that, talk it up and encourage others to boldness. But in real live are they up to it themselves? Well one can't know because the apparent anonymity of this medium both encourages those who mean well to excessive daring; and also conceals those who deliberately intend to send others too far out front where they will meet negative outcomes. What do we have here? We can only speculate about that.

But I favor survivalist skill building. I also favor local networking, and joining appropriate and lawful groups which will provide one good opportuniities to network and build skills. Like local Red Cross disaster relief, or lets say a gun or hunting club. But a freakin militia? Again, I'd point out that in some states the concept is specifically illegal and there are criminal law statues on the books. Want a fucking list? Here it is. Hey Mack, what's forbidden by these laws? Well I guess you dont know. Or: maybe you do.

The guy who encourages you to break the law: who does he usually work for?

As Randy Weaver.

States with Anti-Militia Laws Only (17)
Alabama. ALA. CODE s 31-2-125.
Arizona. ARIZ. REV. STAT. ANN. s 26-123.
Iowa. IOWA CODE s 29A.31.
Kansas. KAN. STAT. ANN. s 48-203.
Kentucky. KY. REV. STAT. ANN. s 38.440.
Maine. ME. REV. STAT. ANN. tit. 37-B, s 342.2.
Maryland. MD. CODE ANN. art. 65, s 35.
Massachusetts. MASS. GEN. L. ch. 33, s 129-132.
Minnesota. MINN. STAT. s 624.61.
Mississippi. MISS. CODE ANN. $ 33-1-31.
Nevada. NEV. REV. STAT. s 203-080.
New Hampshire. N.H. REV. STAT. ANN. s 111:15.
North Dakota. N.D. CENT. CODE s 37-01-21.
Texas. TEX. GOV'T CODE ANN. s 431.010.
Washington. WASH. REV. CODE s 38.40.120.
West Virginia. W. VA. CODE s 15-1F-7.
Wyoming. WYO. STAT. s 19-1-106.
States with Anti-Paramilitary Training Laws Only (17)
Arkansas. ARK. CODE s 5-71-301 to -303.
California. CAL. PENAL CODE s 11460.
Colorado. COLO. REV. STAT. s 18-9-120.
Connecticut. CONN. GEN. STAT. s 53-206b.
Louisiana. LA. REV. STAT. ANN. s 117.1.
Michigan. MICH. COMP. LAWS s 750.528a.
Missouri. MO. REV. STAT. s 574.070.
Montana. MONT. CODE ANN. s 45-8-109.
Nebraska. NEB. REV. STAT. s 28-1480 to -1482.
New Jersey. N.J. REV. STAT. s 2C:39-14.
New Mexico. N.M. STAT. ANN. s 30-20A-1 to -4.
Oklahoma. OKLA. STAT. ANN. tit. 21, s 1321.10.
Oregon. OR. REV. STAT. s 166.660.
Pennsylvania. 18 PA. CONS. STAT. s 5515.
South Carolina. S.C. CODE ANN. s 16-8-10 to -30.
Tennessee. TENN. CODE ANN. s 39-17-314.
Virginia. VA. CODE ANN. s 18.2-433.1 to -433.3.
States with Both Anti-Militia and Anti-Paramilitary Training Laws (7)
Florida. FLA. STAT. ANN. ch. 870.06, 790.29.
Georgia. GA. CODE ANN. ss 38-2-277, 16-11-150 to -152.
Idaho. IDAHO CODE ss 46-802, 18-8101 to -8105.
Illinois. ILL. REV. STAT. ch. 1805, para. 94-95.
New York. N.Y. MIL. LAW s 240.
North Carolina. N.C. GEN. STAT. ss 127A-151, 14-288.20.
Rhode Island. R.I. GEN. LAWS ss 30-12-7, 11-55-1 to -3.

I suspect that Glenn Miller had a lot to do with outlawing of militias here in NC.

At any rate, anyone that approaches you with a plan to engage in illegal behavior is about 99% zog agent. If (and that is only an if) someone wants to strike out at the system, they are well advised to be alone and never to breathe a word of it, not even to their spouse.

Obama's Amerikwa will resemble an African shithole nation more and more and have a very anti-White tone. Being White in the Kwa will just about be a death sentence, or illegal at the least. That's my prediction anyway. At some point, Whites will be forced to strike out.

But I favor survivalist skill building. I also favor local networking, and joining appropriate and lawful groups which will provide one good opportuniities to network and build skills. Like local Red Cross disaster relief, or lets say a gun or hunting club.

Good ideas. I will add yet another. Amateur radio. A lot of emergency related stuff is tied in with amateur radio, such as Red Cross, homeland insecurity, MARS (military affiliated radio service), weather spotters. In many cases, you can get free or inexpensive training in not only radio but other areas, as well. You can also gain skills that will help you with a communications system(s) in your area or within your family. Just keep your racial ideals under your hat and be a flag-waving zoglet in public as most of the amateurs are very pro-government.

[QUOTE=deathtozog;929679]I suspect that Glenn Miller had a lot to do with outlawing of militias here in NC.

You dont need to suspect it, his white patriot group was the very target of that law and Mo Dees sued him over it. There was a contempt decree in 1986 or so which forced Miller to fly. Then he was caught etc. Buy Miller's book, he has a lot about it which you wont find in the media or your local library. At any rate, anyone that approaches you with a plan to engage in illegal behavior is about 99% zog agent. . Either that or a fucking dumbass. A fucking dumbass can get you into trouble just as much.


Good ideas. I will add yet another. Amateur radio. A lot of emergency related stuff is tied in with amateur radio, yes absolutely. learn to use SW radio to listen, learn HAM radio, learn CB radio, all of those things may become the only viable means of communications if the Government ever shuts down the phones and internet.

Which they can do in a fucking second, I promise you.

It doesn't take that much time to determine if one is of the dumb ass - jackass types

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You dont need to suspect it, his white patriot group was the very target of that law and Mo Dees sued him over it. There was a contempt decree in 1986 or so which forced Miller to fly. Then he was caught etc. Buy Miller's book, he has a lot about it which you wont find in the media or your local library. Either that or a fucking dumbass. A fucking dumbass can get you into trouble just as much.


yes absolutely. learn to use SW radio to listen, learn HAM radio, learn CB radio, all of those things may become the only viable means of communications if the Government ever shuts down the phones and internet.

Which they can do in a fucking second, I promise you.

Can they really shut down the internet? Phones, etc. I know are no problem. I just wonder how they can shut down something as global as the internets.

I ditched CB a long time ago. A lot of dumbasses on there, chaos, etc. I still use one on the road for traffic conditions, though. Getting my ham license was one of the best things I have done. It is a hobby of White men and women pretty much. Civilized and orderly.

I ditched CB a long time ago. A lot of dumbasses on there, chaos, etc. i dont mess with em ever, but I got a couple if the SHTF

Can they really shut down the internet? Phones, etc. I know are no problem. I just wonder how they can shut down something as global as the internets.

In the USA, yes. Internet was a DARPA type military industrial project from the beginning. It has a "backbone" that can be monitored and interrupted. The government also has a system to make it so their phone and internet usage can continue in the event of a "civil disaster" etc, but everybody else's goes dark.

I posted the websites for the government-telecom cooperation and disaster preparedness group a long time ago and didnt bother to bookmark it. If I remember, next time I talk to him or her, I will ask my source what the fuckall they call that outfit again, and post it here.

[quote=Antiochus Epiphanes;933841]i dont mess with em ever, but I got a couple if the SHTF

They are okay for road conditions on channel 19 but that is about it. Tune channel 6 and you can hear niggers all day that have 10KW systems in vans, etc. They have up to three alternators to run the amplifiers, etc. Now we know what they do with the welfare money:

http://www.davemade.com/heavywei.htm
http://www.cbretards.com/pictures/bowtiekilla.htm
http://www.cbretards.com/pictures/pictures.htm


In the USA, yes. Internet was a DARPA type military industrial project from the beginning. It has a "backbone" that can be monitored and interrupted. The government also has a system to make it so their phone and internet usage can continue in the event of a "civil disaster" etc, but everybody else's goes dark.

I posted the websites for the government-telecom cooperation and disaster preparedness group a long time ago and didnt bother to bookmark it. If I remember, next time I talk to him or her, I will ask my source what the fuckall they call that outfit again, and post it here.


I believe that the government telco system you refer to is AUTODIN that started out as AUTOVON.

Sites:
More stuff here (http://coldwar-c4i.net/) than you can shake a stick at and very well done, too.

The buildings supporting the towers were hardened against a nuclear blast, and some of them in high-danger areas were underground. The towers themselves were engineered to withstand all but a close (within 5 miles) blast. The microwave horns were covered with a protective shield to keep out not only the elements, but also radioactive fallout. The buildings were shielded with copper to protect the equipment against the Electromagnetic Pulse associated with a nuclear explosion. Foot-thick concrete walls protected the vital electronics and people inside the base installations of these towers. Thick copper grounds went deep into the bedrock beneath each tower. Fallout showers, backup generators, sleeping facilities all existed to keep the network up in times of war.
http://www.drgibson.com/towers/
Note that the microwave towers were sold off by the phone companies in the early 2000s, IIRC. American Tower bought most of them to rent to cellular companies.
What is Finland 2? Finland 2 is a former main station on the nuclear-hardened AT&T Long Lines transcontinental L4 coaxial cable. This was part of the network that provided the nation's long distance telephone service in the era before fiber optic cable. This network also provided the bulk of the military's communications in the US, including providing connectivity between the President and National Command Authority and the nation's strategic nuclear forces. As a result, AT&T built their network to survive anything but a direct hit from a nuclear weapon. The aboveground microwave radio network was built to survive nominal blast winds and was protected from fallout radiation in thick concrete reinforced buildings. The underground cable was served by underground reinforced concrete terminal stations equipped with thick concrete walls and steel blast doors, with air filtration to keep out fallout particles, and food and water for operation for 2 weeks in a protected mode.


http://www.coldwarcomms.org/l5/finland2/finland2.htm
Virtual tour that is pretty neat.

http://www.coldwarcomms.org/

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