sean(doc)martin
07-31-2004, 01:24 AM
This is a scientific, philosophical and theological discussion or Race.
Statistics to blow apart the fallacy of equality among races
1. From 1983-88 the homicide rate increased 2/3, while the rate for whites barely budged.
2. Black men between ages 15-24 are now nearly 9 times as likely to kill each other as are whites of the same age.
3. Homicide has become the leading cause of death for all black men between ages 15-54.
4. Murder has become so common that it has dragged down the life expectancy for blacks for the 4th straight year, and that of black men for the 5th year in a row.
5. Life expectancy for whites increased or held steady.
6. In Harlem, there are so many killings that a black man living there is less likely to reach 65 than is a man living in Bangledesh.
7. One in four black men is either in jail, on parole, or on probation. This is approximately 10 times the rate for whites of the same age.
8. Though they are only 12% of the population, blacks commit more than 1/2 of all rapes and robberies and 60% of the murders in America.
9. From 1985-90, while syphilis rates for whites continued their long-running decline, they rose 126% for black men, and 231% for black women.
10. Blacks are now nearly 50 times more likely to have syphilis than whites.
11. Blacks have the highest infant mortality rate for any American racial group, and twice as likely as whites to die in their first year.
12. Black children are 4 times as likely as whites to be living in poverty, and less than 1/2 as likely to be living with 2 parents.
13. Illegitimacy rates for blacks have climbed steadily, and now more than 66% of all black children are born out of wedlock. The rates for whites is 19%.
14. Young blacks are 1/2 as likely to be working than whites, and at some urban high schools, nearly 70% fail to graduate.
15. The median set net worth for a black family is only $3,397, less than 1/11th that of a white family.
16. Blacks are over 6 times more likely than whites to be on public assistance, and even after welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and subsidized housing, the median black household income is only 64% of the white median.
Source: Paved with Good Intentions by Jared Taylor).
Quotes from the past
" I will say then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races- that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the black and white races...I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race".
Abraham Lincoln- the Lincoln Douglas debates of 1858
" Such seperation if effected at all, must be effected by colonization:...what colonization most needs is a hearty will... Let us be brought to believe that it is morally right, and at the same time favorable to, or at least not against, our interests to transfer the African to his native clime, and we shall find a way to do it, however great the task might be".
Abraham Lincoln speeches, letters, and state papers vol.1,p.458
" I am strongly of the opinion negroes ought to be in Africa , yellow men in Asia, and white men in Europe and America". He also said that Northerners who went south to help the civil rights movement were "meddlers" and he called M. King a "troublemaker".
Harry Truman, Private letters
After a lifetime of service to the Africans,Dr. Albert Schweitzer said, in 1961, "They [Africans] have neither the intellectual, mental, or emotional abilities to equate or to share qually with white men in any of the functions of our civilization
30 REASONS FOR SEGREGATION OF THE RACES
1. God wills all races to be as He made them. Any violation of God's original purpose manifests insubordination to Him. (Acts 17:26, Rom. 9:19-24)
2. God made everything to reproduce "after his own kind" (Gen 1:11-12, 6:20, 7:14). Kind means type and color. He would have kept them all alike to begin with had he intended equality.
3. God originally determined the bounds of the habitations of nations, so they would be saved. (17:26, Gen.10:5,32, 11:8, Dt. 32:8)
4. Miscongenation means the mixture of the races, especially the black and white races, or those of outstanding type, or color. The Bible even goes farther than this. It is against different branches of the same stock intermarrying such as Jews marrying other descendants of Abraham ( Ezra 9-10, Neh. 9-13, Jer 50:37, Ezek 30:5)
5. Abraham forbade Eliezer to take a wife for Isaac of canaanites ( Gen. 24:1-4). God was so pleased with this that He directed whom to get ( Gen. 24:7, 12-67)
6. Isaac forbade Jacob to take a wife of the canaanites ( Gen. 27:46-28:7)
7. Abraham sent all his sons of the concubines, and even of his second wife, far away from Isaac so their descendants would not mix (Gen. 25:1-6)
8. Esau disobeying this law brought the final break between him and his father after lifelong companionship with him ( Gen 25:28, 26:34-35, 27:46, 28:8-9)
9. The two branches of Isaac remained segregated forever ( Gen 36, 46:8-26)
10. Ishmael and Isaac's descendants remained segregated forever ( Gen 25:12-23, 1 Chr 1:29)
11. Jacobs sons destroyed a whole city to maintain segregation (Gen 34)
12. God forbad intermarraige between Israel and all other nations ( Ex 34:12-16, Dt 7:3-6)
13. Joshua forbad the same thing on sentance of death ( Josh 23:12-13)
14. God cursed angels for leaving their own "first estate" and "their own habitation" to marry the daughters of men (Gen 6:1-4, 2 Pet 2:4, Jude 6,7)
15. Miscogenation caused Israel to be cursed ( Judges 3:6-7, Num 25:1-8). Note that Phinehas' act was righteous ( Ps 106:30)
16. This was solomon's sin ( 1 King 11)
17. This was the sin of Judahites returning from Babylon ( Ezra 9:1-10:2, 10-18, 44, Neh. 13:1-30)
18. God commanded Israel to be segregated ( Lev 20:24, Num 23:9, 1 King 8:53)
19. Israelites recognized as a seperate people in all ages because of God's choice and command ( Matt 10:6, John 1:11). Equal rights in the gospel gives no right to break this eternal law
20. Segregation between Israelites and all other nations to remain in all eternity ( Is 2:2-4,Ezek 37, 47:13-48, Zech 14:16-21, Matt 19:28, Lk 1:32-33, Rev 7:1-8, 14:1-5)
21. All nations will remain segregated from one another in their own parts of the earth forever ( Acts 17:26, Gen 10:5, 32, 11:8-9, Dt 32:8, Dan 7:13-14, Rev 11:15, 21:24)
22. Certain people in Israel were not even to worship with others ( Dt 23:1-3, Ezra 10:8, Neh 9:2, 10:28, 13:3)
23. Even in heaven certain groups will not be allowed to worship together ( Rev 7:7-17, 14:1-5, 15:2-5)
24. Segregaton in the O.T. was so strong that an ox and an ass could not be worked together ( Dt 22:10)
25. Miscogenation caused disunity among God's people ( Num 12)
26. Stock was forbidden to be bred with other kinds ( Lev 19:19)
27. Sowing mixed seed in the same field was unlawful ( Lev 19:19)
28. Different seeds were forbidden to be planted in the same vineyards ( Dt 22:9)
29. Wearing garments of mixed fabrics forbidden ( Dt 22:11, Lev 19:19)
30. Christians and certain other people of a like race are to be segregated based upon behavior ( Mt 18:15-17, 1 Cor 5:9-13, 6:15, 2 Cor 6:14-18, Eph 5:11, 2 Thess 3:6-16, 1 Tim 6:5, 2 Tim 3:5)
[SIZE=4]An honest question:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]IF GOD WANTED EVERYONE THE SAME, WITHOUT DISTINCTION, WHY DID HE SCATTER THEM IN GENESIS 11:1-9????[/SIZE]
Statistics to blow apart the fallacy of equality among races
1. From 1983-88 the homicide rate increased 2/3, while the rate for whites barely budged.
2. Black men between ages 15-24 are now nearly 9 times as likely to kill each other as are whites of the same age.
3. Homicide has become the leading cause of death for all black men between ages 15-54.
4. Murder has become so common that it has dragged down the life expectancy for blacks for the 4th straight year, and that of black men for the 5th year in a row.
5. Life expectancy for whites increased or held steady.
6. In Harlem, there are so many killings that a black man living there is less likely to reach 65 than is a man living in Bangledesh.
7. One in four black men is either in jail, on parole, or on probation. This is approximately 10 times the rate for whites of the same age.
8. Though they are only 12% of the population, blacks commit more than 1/2 of all rapes and robberies and 60% of the murders in America.
9. From 1985-90, while syphilis rates for whites continued their long-running decline, they rose 126% for black men, and 231% for black women.
10. Blacks are now nearly 50 times more likely to have syphilis than whites.
11. Blacks have the highest infant mortality rate for any American racial group, and twice as likely as whites to die in their first year.
12. Black children are 4 times as likely as whites to be living in poverty, and less than 1/2 as likely to be living with 2 parents.
13. Illegitimacy rates for blacks have climbed steadily, and now more than 66% of all black children are born out of wedlock. The rates for whites is 19%.
14. Young blacks are 1/2 as likely to be working than whites, and at some urban high schools, nearly 70% fail to graduate.
15. The median set net worth for a black family is only $3,397, less than 1/11th that of a white family.
16. Blacks are over 6 times more likely than whites to be on public assistance, and even after welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and subsidized housing, the median black household income is only 64% of the white median.
Source: Paved with Good Intentions by Jared Taylor).
Quotes from the past
" I will say then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races- that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the black and white races...I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race".
Abraham Lincoln- the Lincoln Douglas debates of 1858
" Such seperation if effected at all, must be effected by colonization:...what colonization most needs is a hearty will... Let us be brought to believe that it is morally right, and at the same time favorable to, or at least not against, our interests to transfer the African to his native clime, and we shall find a way to do it, however great the task might be".
Abraham Lincoln speeches, letters, and state papers vol.1,p.458
" I am strongly of the opinion negroes ought to be in Africa , yellow men in Asia, and white men in Europe and America". He also said that Northerners who went south to help the civil rights movement were "meddlers" and he called M. King a "troublemaker".
Harry Truman, Private letters
After a lifetime of service to the Africans,Dr. Albert Schweitzer said, in 1961, "They [Africans] have neither the intellectual, mental, or emotional abilities to equate or to share qually with white men in any of the functions of our civilization
30 REASONS FOR SEGREGATION OF THE RACES
1. God wills all races to be as He made them. Any violation of God's original purpose manifests insubordination to Him. (Acts 17:26, Rom. 9:19-24)
2. God made everything to reproduce "after his own kind" (Gen 1:11-12, 6:20, 7:14). Kind means type and color. He would have kept them all alike to begin with had he intended equality.
3. God originally determined the bounds of the habitations of nations, so they would be saved. (17:26, Gen.10:5,32, 11:8, Dt. 32:8)
4. Miscongenation means the mixture of the races, especially the black and white races, or those of outstanding type, or color. The Bible even goes farther than this. It is against different branches of the same stock intermarrying such as Jews marrying other descendants of Abraham ( Ezra 9-10, Neh. 9-13, Jer 50:37, Ezek 30:5)
5. Abraham forbade Eliezer to take a wife for Isaac of canaanites ( Gen. 24:1-4). God was so pleased with this that He directed whom to get ( Gen. 24:7, 12-67)
6. Isaac forbade Jacob to take a wife of the canaanites ( Gen. 27:46-28:7)
7. Abraham sent all his sons of the concubines, and even of his second wife, far away from Isaac so their descendants would not mix (Gen. 25:1-6)
8. Esau disobeying this law brought the final break between him and his father after lifelong companionship with him ( Gen 25:28, 26:34-35, 27:46, 28:8-9)
9. The two branches of Isaac remained segregated forever ( Gen 36, 46:8-26)
10. Ishmael and Isaac's descendants remained segregated forever ( Gen 25:12-23, 1 Chr 1:29)
11. Jacobs sons destroyed a whole city to maintain segregation (Gen 34)
12. God forbad intermarraige between Israel and all other nations ( Ex 34:12-16, Dt 7:3-6)
13. Joshua forbad the same thing on sentance of death ( Josh 23:12-13)
14. God cursed angels for leaving their own "first estate" and "their own habitation" to marry the daughters of men (Gen 6:1-4, 2 Pet 2:4, Jude 6,7)
15. Miscogenation caused Israel to be cursed ( Judges 3:6-7, Num 25:1-8). Note that Phinehas' act was righteous ( Ps 106:30)
16. This was solomon's sin ( 1 King 11)
17. This was the sin of Judahites returning from Babylon ( Ezra 9:1-10:2, 10-18, 44, Neh. 13:1-30)
18. God commanded Israel to be segregated ( Lev 20:24, Num 23:9, 1 King 8:53)
19. Israelites recognized as a seperate people in all ages because of God's choice and command ( Matt 10:6, John 1:11). Equal rights in the gospel gives no right to break this eternal law
20. Segregation between Israelites and all other nations to remain in all eternity ( Is 2:2-4,Ezek 37, 47:13-48, Zech 14:16-21, Matt 19:28, Lk 1:32-33, Rev 7:1-8, 14:1-5)
21. All nations will remain segregated from one another in their own parts of the earth forever ( Acts 17:26, Gen 10:5, 32, 11:8-9, Dt 32:8, Dan 7:13-14, Rev 11:15, 21:24)
22. Certain people in Israel were not even to worship with others ( Dt 23:1-3, Ezra 10:8, Neh 9:2, 10:28, 13:3)
23. Even in heaven certain groups will not be allowed to worship together ( Rev 7:7-17, 14:1-5, 15:2-5)
24. Segregaton in the O.T. was so strong that an ox and an ass could not be worked together ( Dt 22:10)
25. Miscogenation caused disunity among God's people ( Num 12)
26. Stock was forbidden to be bred with other kinds ( Lev 19:19)
27. Sowing mixed seed in the same field was unlawful ( Lev 19:19)
28. Different seeds were forbidden to be planted in the same vineyards ( Dt 22:9)
29. Wearing garments of mixed fabrics forbidden ( Dt 22:11, Lev 19:19)
30. Christians and certain other people of a like race are to be segregated based upon behavior ( Mt 18:15-17, 1 Cor 5:9-13, 6:15, 2 Cor 6:14-18, Eph 5:11, 2 Thess 3:6-16, 1 Tim 6:5, 2 Tim 3:5)
[SIZE=4]An honest question:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]IF GOD WANTED EVERYONE THE SAME, WITHOUT DISTINCTION, WHY DID HE SCATTER THEM IN GENESIS 11:1-9????[/SIZE]