A favorite tactic of the free-rangers is to shift blame and attention away from the jews by blaming the victim. Yes Crowe, Keystone and company are always quick to point out the problem is really ours. We let the jews do this to us therefore stop blaming them for eveything is their mantra. We (the non-antis) all acknowledge we let the jews get away with their duplicity, but this does not absolve the of the crimes they have committed. It does not mean that they are not the cause of the destruction of our nation and society. Every insane, destructive and perverse social and governmental trend is the result of jewish efforts. This has been documented time after time and we are not going to let the free-rangers reframe the debate like this anymore. Remember the Central Park jogger? A young intelligent white woman was gang-raped and beaten within an inch of her life by a gang of teenage nigger and spic monkeys out for a night of "wilding". The response of the monkey parents and the nigger civil rights leaders was to say she was a whore and that she was asking for it therefore our little niglets are innocent. It's amazing how dumb the arguments of niggers can become when they are faced with their own savage Olduvai Gorge like nature. It's amazing how dumb and fallacious the arguments of jews and their little toadies become when their nose is held to the carpet.

The antis are the same people who continously bloat that "it's not time yet to act... it's too soon." ad infinitum. They are too scared to act so they put the blame on whites and make it look like it is a mess they should clean up... which in the first place is true but in doing so they are actually placing the blame on OTHER whites instead of themselves to shirk responsibility... very cleaver.

Fact is, the actions needed to clean up the mess are going to be dirty, unpopular and probably illegal under the present govt. The antis will find a million excuses for it not to work therefore insuring their non involvement in such matters... and after the revolution when things are bad and everyone has to work they will bitch and moan about how better it was under the jews.

A body w/ cancer cannot escape a violent, bloody surgery but afterwards will heal, albeit w/ scars.

There is the truth. And there are lies. We have the truth. They have the lies.

The jew is born a liar. His entire existence can be summed up in four words: "lie, deny, lie again". There is no truth in the jew or in those who defend him. To the truth they are lost forever.

We sully ourselves when we attempt to bring the truth to the liar the jew or the liars around here or the liars on the street. They cannot debate or be reasoned with. They cannot be made to understand that they are lying or that they are simply wrong.

They may know they are lying and simply will not give up their position because they have too much of their self invested in their lies. Or they may not know they are lying and are just plain wrong, then they are to be pitied for their stupidity.

The only cure for it is ignore them. Preach to the choir if you must. Like children who are only seeking attention, if you ignore them they will either go away and leave us in peace, or they will simply become quiet and observant, muttering lies amongst themselves occasionally about things irrelevant to WN and things insipid otherwise.

Luckily this forum has an ignore feature built in. Put all the antis on ignore and do not be tempted to take it off to see what nonsense they are posting. It is the only way to remove their inane scribblings from the debate.

For the sake of improving and enhancing VNNF, please utilize the ignore feature for all free range antis. To dignify their bleatings with a truthful response is an utter and complete waste of effort. Their blinders and brainwashings are firmly in place and nothing we say or do will change them one jot.

Bragi,

That's all well and good but the guest see what they say to our replies and if we ignore them the guest assume that we can't answer their questions/ramblings so we look weak. People join groups that are strong and parrot opinions of strong people. We CAN overcome the objections of antis if we do it intelligently and we look good and impressive in the process.

[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter]A favorite tactic of the free-rangers is to shift blame and attention away from the jews by blaming the victim. Yes Crowe, Keystone and company are always quick to point out the problem is really ours. We let the jews do this to us therefore stop blaming them for eveything is their mantra. We (the non-antis) all acknowledge we let the jews get away with their duplicity, but this does not absolve the of the crimes they have committed. It does not mean that they are not the cause of the destruction of our nation and society. Every insane, destructive and perverse social and governmental trend is the result of jewish efforts. This has been documented time after time and we are not going to let the free-rangers reframe the debate like this anymore. Remember the Central Park jogger? A young intelligent white woman was gang-raped and beaten within an inch of her life by a gang of teenage nigger and spic monkeys out for a night of "wilding". The response of the monkey parents and the nigger civil rights leaders was to say she was a whore and that she was asking for it therefore our little niglets are innocent. It's amazing how dumb the arguments of niggers can become when they are faced with their own savage Olduvai Gorge like nature. It's amazing how dumb and fallacious the arguments of jews and their little toadies become when their nose is held to the carpet.[/QUOTE]

I don't think it's a good analogy to compare blaming an innocent white girl jogging thru a park for her rape to perhaps suggesting that whites are at least partly to blame for their own plight. Having the belief that the problems the white race face is a multi-faceted one and not solely because of the Jews is not absolving Jews of anything. It is simply an opinion that differs from yours.

A while back you mentioned that if the Jews were removed that whites can easily be reprogrammed. Assuming that's true just how do you plan to reprogram the blacks, hispanics, arabs, and every other adverse group now deeply entrenched in the United States and in Europe? Do you believe that they will simply go away?

Jim is having a tough time these days. His posts are becoming more and more inarticulate.
He visited my poll asking whether jew-criticism should be allowed here and he posted but didn't vote. Now go figure. This was his quaint comment:

Momus, for the last time.

NO ONE IS PREVENTING ANYONE FROM BEING CRITICAL OF JEWS! EVERY SINGLE POST ON THIS FORUM IS ABOUT BARBECUEING, FILETING, AND SKULL-F*CKING JEWS!

Does anyone think it will really be the last time, as he says?
If so, can I sell you a bridge, do you need a jewish lawyer?

By the way, the phrase, skull-f*cking jews was used in the same way by Anima the other day. They seem to have a phobia about it.

Thank you Dr antichrist, I'm sure someone found that enlightening.
How is your support of Israel going? Stronger than ever? They are quite the rogue nation, in my opinion. But then, I also question if Pol Pot really has the masterplan as you also aver.

[QUOTE=DR ANTICHRIST]I agree with alot of what Crowe has to say. And it seems he has got slapped with anti label because he does not preach the offical dogma of WN. If the jews all dropped dead right now, we would still have alot of problems left on our hands, but I do not agree with it is too early to act, it is never too late or early to do something. Even with the jews gone the white coperats/plutocrats would keep on the same road there on right now. Not to mention the jewsus freaks and other anti whites, whites. The state power would also still be intact. It is not all jews.[/QUOTE]

Jim Crowe now hates the policy of free-range antis and spurns them.
He votes yes in the poll. He comes out for those who favorunrestricted criticism of jews and their useful goy.

Hooray for Jim Crowe! Hooray! He just went yes after I reminded him to vote. He has spurned the policy and the company of those who would interfere with jew criticism here. Never again will he even seem to try to interfere with harsh criticism of jews and their agenda on this forum. As the honest White man that he now claims to be I'm sure he will be glad of reminder should he stray. He might welcome his own confinement or banishment if he should ever try to divert conversation from open or harsh talk of jews and their useful goy on this forum. He is that kind of a stand-up White man.

Jim Crowe will never again call MOMUS a lunatic for criticizing jews.

(Jim, you can still call me a jewish lawyer if you like.)

[QUOTE=MOMUS]Jim Crowe now hates the policy of free-range antis and spurns them.
He votes yes in the poll. He comes out for those who favorunrestricted criticism of jews and their useful goy.

Hooray for Jim Crowe! Hooray! He just went yes after I reminded him to vote. He has spurned the policy and the company of those who would interfere with jew criticism here. Never again will he even seem to try to interfere with harsh criticism of jews and their agenda on this forum. As the honest White man that he now claims to be I'm sure he will be glad of reminder should he stray. He might welcome his own confinement or banishment if he should ever try to divert conversation from open or harsh talk of jews and their useful goy on this forum. He is that kind of a stand-up White man.

Jim Crowe will never again call MOMUS a lunatic for criticizing jews.

(Jim, you can still call me a jewish lawyer if you like.)[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=5]you and crow want gassing yoiu retards homo's[/SIZE]

Ugh, there was a nasty british kike troll lying on the thread back there babbling like a drunken faggot.
EEESH, I had to step over it. to bring this good news back.
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Jim now hates the policy of free-range antisand spurns them.
Hooray for Jim! Hooray! He just went yes after I reminded him to vote. He has spurned the policy and the company of those who would interfere with jew criticism here. Never again will he even seem to try to interfere with harsh criticism of jews and their agenda on this forum. As the honest White man that he now claims to be I'm sure he will be glad of reminder should he stray, and will welcome confinement or banishment if he should ever try to divert conversation from open or harsh talk of jews and their forum friends. He is that kind of a stand-up White man.

Jim will never call MOMUS a lunatic again.

Jim, you can still call me a jewish lawyer if you like.

[size=3]No, the jews are not solely to blame, for you antis who think that WN's like to make believe that the white race is without flaws or weaknesses or indeed, blame. Our inherent faults and weak spots have been our undoing because they have been well known and ruthlessly exploited by our sworn enemies the jews. Throw in those many whites who have collaborated and worked with the jew and you had/have a recipe for disaster.

But I must stress that our collective blame only goes so far; as far as you might blame the female victim in a heinous rape/murder.

The late great Revilo P. Oliver wrote an excellent essay called What We Owe Our Parasites. You can find that essay here (http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/wwoop.htm). It's a long one but well worth reading. The entire website for this highly respected white racialist American is here (http://www.revilo-oliver.com/). If you have not read some of his stuff, it is highly recommended for any and all.

Here is an excerpt from the above mentioned essay where Prof. Oliver explains the major character flaws of whites which our racial enemies have used to bring us where we are today. It is meant to show you antis and others what exactly it is about the white race that has lead to our current demise.[/size]

...of taking thought for ourselves. There is in us a weakness, perhaps a fatal weakness, that makes us not only listen to the babble of self-professed do-gooders, but to do whatever they tell us to do, and to do it as mindlessly as though we were in a hypnotic trance and had surrendered our will to that of the hypnotist.

Now I believe that this strange weakness, unlike so many of our peculiarities, is not a single congenital and hereditary idiocy. If that were true, we would not be here: our remote ancestors would have been eaten long before the dawn of history. It is compounded, it seems to me, of a perversion of seven different qualities; a perversion effected and fostered by certain misunderstandings in the peculiar circumstances that resulted from the prosperity, power, and world dominion we of the West achieved for ourselves and enjoyed in recent centuries. All of the seven elements of our mentality that I shall enumerate are good qualities, at least in the sense that they are born in us, that we could not eliminate them from our genetic heritage if we wanted to, and that we have perforce to accept them. We could comment at length on each of them, and it would be particularly interesting to contrast ourselves with other races at each point. But I must list them as briefly as possible, with only a word or two of explanation to make my meaning clear.

The first is imagination, which is highly developed in us, and vivid; an imagination which means, among other things, that we have a spiritual need of a great literature: both a literature of vicarious experience and a literature of the fantastic and marvellous that transcends the world of reality. But this gift bears with it, of course, the danger that we may not distinguish clearly between a vivid imagination and something that we can actually see in the world.

Second, the sense of personal honor which is so strong in us, and seems so fatuous and silly to other races. It is this, among other things, that gives us the conception of an honorable contest when men of our race meet as opponents in war. It gives us the knightly ethos that you see when Diomedes and Glaucus meet on the plains of Troy and in all subsequent history and story of our race. It also exposes us to the danger of behaving in knightly fashion to those to whom those standards are lunacy.

The third is the capacity for objective and philosophical thought, which is virtually limited to our race, and which enables us to put ourselves mentally in the position of others, but simultaneously exposes us to the risk of fancying that their thoughts and feelings are what ours would be.

The fourth is our capacity for compassion. We have a racial reluctance to inflict unnecessary pain, and we are ourselves distressed by the sight of suffering. That is, of course, a peculiarity that brings upon us the ridicule and contempt of the numerical majority of the world's population, who are beings differently constituted. The savages of Africa, who are now your masters in the sense that you have to work for them every day, find the spectacle of a human being under torture simply hilarious. And when they see a blinded captive with broken limbs squirm as they prod him with red-hot irons, they laugh with glee -- with a merriment, a real merriment, that is greater than the funniest farce on the stage has ever excited in you. You may search the vast and respectable literature of China in vain for any trace of compassion for suffering per se.

Fifth, our generosity, both as individuals and as a nation, which naturally brings on us the contempt of those to whom we give abroad.

The capacity for self-sacrifice is sixth; and that is, of course, highly developed in us, but it is a necessary basis for the existence of any civilized society. No people above the stage of unthinking savagery can survive in this world without some instinct or some belief which makes its young men give their lives for the preservation of the society in which they were born.

And the seventh and last is the sentiment of religion, which of course is common to all mankind, although here again it takes a distinctive form in us. For fifteen centuries the religion of the Western world has been Christianity, Western Christianity, and there is no other religion now known or even imaginable that could take its place. But it is simply an historical fact, which we must deplore but cannot change, that only a small part of our population today, 12 or 15 per cent., really believes that Christ was the son of God, that the soul is immortal, and that our sins will be punished in a future life. That means that the religious instinct, which is a part of our nature, finds in the majority of our people no satisfaction in an unquestioning faith; so that those frustrated instincts are available for exploitation by any halfway clever scoundrel, as the shysters and punks who now occupy the majority of our pulpits well know. When faith is lost, what Pareto calls the religious residue in a people becomes its most vulnerable point, its Achilles heel. It is the unsatisfied need for an unquestioning faith in a superior power.

Now, a perversion of all of these qualities in us operated during the centuries of our dominance to give us an utterly false conception of other peoples. We have imagined that by some magic we could convey to them not only our material possessions, but the qualities of our mind and soul.

And we have always succumbed to the flattery of imitation. The capacity for imitating behavior is common not only to all human beings, but to all anthropoids, as we all know from the proverbial expression, "monkey see, monkey do." An ape's ability to imitate is, of course, limited. But, with the exception of the Australoids, other races have the capacity to imitate us convincingly in externals. If they dress in our clothes, observe our social conventions, and speak our language, using the phrases which as they can learn by observation please us, and using those phrases even if they don't understand them or if they regard them as preposterous drivel and nonsense, the members of other races could imitate us so plausibly that we believe them converted to our mentality and to our conception of life. And any shortcomings that we may notice in the performance of the imitator, we generously overlook or regard as endearing naivete.

This capacity for imitation is possessed by savages, at least by the more intelligent ones, and it has deceived us time after time. The British are as gullible as we are. Hundreds and hundreds of times, at least, they gave scholarships to Blacks from Basutoland or Kenya or Nigeria or one of their other possessions, and the result was almost always the same. With the money given him, the savage bought himself a good wardrobe, attended an English school, learned to play soccer, attended Oxford, wrote a charming essay on Wordsworth or on ancient law, copulated with half-witted English women who thought him "romantic" and themselves "broad-minded," and when he got tired of living on English generosity, went home to his tribe where he had a well-roasted baby served up to him as a delicacy of which he had been long deprived by the stupid prejudices of the stupid British.

With some of the highly intelligent Oriental peoples, the capacity for dissimulation goes much farther than that and approaches genius.

That strange and unique international people, the Jews, who for all the time in which they are known to history have lived and flourished by planting their colonies in other people's countries, have owed much of their success to the chameleon-like ability to take on, when they choose, the manners and attitudes of whatever country they choose to reside in. They are a highly intelligent people, quite possibly much more intelligent than we are. But all observers, notably Douglas Reed and Roderick Stohlheim, have commented on the Jews' amazing ability to seem a German in Berlin, a Czech in Prague, an Italian in Rome, and an Englishman in London, shifting from one role to the other with the ease with which a man might change his suit of clothes. The Jews have, of course, the great advantage that their skins are white, and that many of them resemble, in features, members of our race, even to the point of being indistinguishable, at least to an untrained eye, and including persons with such non-Oriental characteristics as blond or red hair....

Well this thread wasn't started by me so Anima can't accuse me of vanity when I add add to it's count. I just like to see these freerange expose's.
I was going to start a second one after I bury the one that got the whole treacherous crowd so stirred up in the first place.
I have started a thread congratulating both JC and KST for voting in my poll in favor of the right to "slag" the jew as the jew deserves without hindrance.
I applaud that, but I didn't invite them to the big weekend free-range hunt and round-up that some friends and I are having. I still cannot trust them, the memory of all the names they called me and the subterfuges they used is too fresh. They both could prove themselves loyal to Whites by posting some fresh outrage of Jewry, they are easy to find. they can post it on any of the threads i made for that purpose.

[QUOTE=MOMUS]Ugh, there was a nasty british kike troll lying on the thread back there babbling like a drunken faggot.
EEESH, I had to step over it. to bring this good news back.
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Jim now hates the policy of free-range antisand spurns them.
Hooray for Jim! Hooray! He just went yes after I reminded him to vote. He has spurned the policy and the company of those who would interfere with jew criticism here. Never again will he even seem to try to interfere with harsh criticism of jews and their agenda on this forum. As the honest White man that he now claims to be I'm sure he will be glad of reminder should he stray, and will welcome confinement or banishment if he should ever try to divert conversation from open or harsh talk of jews and their forum friends. He is that kind of a stand-up White man.

Jim will never call MOMUS a lunatic again.

Jim, you can still call me a jewish lawyer if you like.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter]A favorite tactic of the free-rangers is to shift blame and attention away from the jews by blaming the victim. [/QUOTE]
One of the most popular tactics is shifting the blame from the Jews altogether and placing it on Christians. Let’s see who is notorious for that?

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]One of the most popular tactics is shifting the blame from the Jews altogether and placing it on Christians. Let’s see who is notorious for that?[/QUOTE]

Anyone come to mind? Jarl maybe?

[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter]Anyone come to mind? Jarl maybe?[/QUOTE]
I didn't name any names.

I don't think it's a good analogy to compare blaming an innocent white girl jogging thru a park for her rape to perhaps suggesting that whites are at least partly to blame for their own plight.

Poor old dim Jim, that was not the analogy I was making. Go back and re-read my post slower and try not to move your lips.

Assuming that's true just how do you plan to reprogram the blacks, hispanics, arabs, and every other adverse group now deeply entrenched in the United States and in Europe?

Dim Jim dropped on his head at birth. We don't want to reprogram blacks, spics or any other non-aryan you numb-skull. Reprogram them into what? White nationalists? You dullard. We plan to drive them out and kill them off along with the white traitors.

[QUOTE=DR ANTICHRIST]Jarl points out that the jew and the christians are joined at the hip so he kills two birds with one stone.[/QUOTE]

Christians, though generally loathsome, are not doing anything different than the other lemmings.

[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter]Christians, though generally loathsome, are not doing anything different than the other lemmings.[/QUOTE]
Except according to Pagans stomping the dog snot out of Pagans for centuries. And not White Pagans all pagans.

the highest level of loathesomeness goes to the senior curse, the jews that brought christianity into being and still practice their racial hate-cult today as they have since long ago. Long before Paul first thought of taking the Christ scam to the goy on the road to Damascus. Judaism remains hate unadulterated without the palliative effect of christian "love" tenets.
Judaism is evil to Whites; its spin-off, Xianity, is just dumb.

[QUOTE=DR ANTICHRIST]They take it to a whole new level of loathsome. lol[/QUOTE]

I remember Hitler saying somewhere in his Tabletalk that Jesus was a good guy but that jew Saul/Paul fucked up His words.

[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter]Every insane, destructive and perverse social and governmental trend is the result of jewish efforts.[/QUOTE]

Incorrect. Many, perhaps most insane, destructive and perverse social and governmental trend is the result of jewish efforts. There are some adverse groups, blacks and other non-whites, exert their own political clout and have nothing to do with Jews. Elements within the white race, have agendas that are not in line with white racial health.

Just because one does not like Jews does not mean one has to extrapolate into absurdity.

And I'm a dim bulb? At least I am somewhat rooted in reality.

Also your constant ad hominem injections are an indicator that you probably don't even believe your own convictions.

Many, perhaps most insane, destructive and perverse social and governmental trend is the result of jewish efforts.

"Most" is good enough for me considering they are only 2% of the population to lay the blame at their feet collectively. Thanks for your support Dim.


There are some adverse groups, blacks and other non-whites, exert their own political clout and have nothing to do with Jews.

Jews have nothing to do with Black political clout? You mean like the NAACP that was founded and financed by Jews. The NAACP that had Jews as presidents for the first 50 years of its existence. You have to try harder DIM.

Just because one does not like Jews does not mean one has to extrapolate into absurdity.

I'm sorry I'll try and be nicer to jews from now on Dim. I'll try and treat jews more like the way they treat us. Like this jewboy for instance: http://racetraitor.org/

[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter]Jews have nothing to do with Black political clout? You mean like the NAACP that was founded and financed by Jews. The NAACP that had Jews as presidents for the first 50 years of its existence. You have to try harder DIM.[/QUOTE]

The Jews had there most destructive influence in the 60's. This is when whites had their best opportunity to combat the Jews and steer the country back on the correct course. This is where whites failed.

My point is that although the Jews are still up to their bullshit, these other adverse groups are beyond being beholden to the Jew, and are also a threat on there own (granted it was the Jews that shoved them down our throats to begin with).

So even though we get rid of the Jews, we would still be left with a tub of Jew-shit.

But I agree that the Jews the greatest threat so I don't see the point of arguing this anymore, as our views probably don't vary all that much.

No Jim, you are wrong, and you know that you shouldn't talk from that hole. The jews are at their strongest now. They OWN the most powerful country in the world. They USE its army to destroy their enemies.
Jews are DIRECTLY responsible for dragging US into Iraq and you can't deny or evade that . They are respomsible for taking the lives of more than 1000 of our nation's youth.
Why don't you go fishing for a few days Jim? Just until the danger of being mistaken for a supporter of jewish suppression of free speech here is over for you.
You have demonstrated that you truly talk out your butt on the subject of jews. Until you have at least read a summary of Kevin McDonald would you please confine your comments to other subjects?
Did you read the news link I gave you?
[QUOTE=Jim Crowe]The Jews had there most destructive influence in the 60's. This is when whites had their best opportunity to combat the Jews and steer the country back on the correct course. This is where whites failed.

My point is that although the Jews are still up to their bullshit, these other adverse groups are beyond being beholden to the Jew, and are also a threat on there own (granted it was the Jews that shoved them down our throats to begin with).

So even though we get rid of the Jews, we would still be left with a tub of Jew-shit.

But I agree that the Jews the greatest threat so I don't see the point of arguing this anymore, as our views probably don't vary all that much.[/QUOTE]

I've been reading some of the articles on this website and others. On most other WN sites Jews are only peripheral issue. Take newnation.org for example. Perhaps only five percent of info there refers to Jews.

The Jews pushed for war with Iraq. George Bush wanted to avenge his father by killing or capturing Saddam Hussien, and gave the Jews what they wanted.

Jim, you poor old goober, this is VNN FORUM where it is NO JEWS, JUST RIGHT. Why are you maundering about other forums and their practices or issues?
Just because "DOC" has proven to be stupider than you is no reason for you to get cocky. The difference is small , if you keep this spin up you will trip yourself like he did.
Remember your vote? Remember your stated purpose of free speech regarding the Jew? You should not post concerning them until you know much more about them. Unsupported statements like the ones you make seem to the knowlegable like jew lies. Take care of that.
If you come back to this thread with some half-assed goofball response then I and the forum will know your intent.

[QUOTE=Jim Crowe]I've been reading some of the articles on this website and others. On most other WN sites Jews are only peripheral issue. Take newnation.org for example. Perhaps only five percent of info there refers to Jews.

The Jews pushed for war with Iraq. George Bush wanted to avenge his father by killing or capturing Saddam Hussien, and gave the Jews what they wanted.[/QUOTE]

I hate to say it but I actually agree with Jim crowe, Whites obviously are to blame for our own problems. Not the jews , yes the jews distort and retard our culture and expolit our benevolent altruistic weakness however this would not happen we were more racially group conscious and ethnocentric. However I don't blame whites per se or anybody else for own problems whites have gotten complacent, weak, fatuous and medicore. We have given up on all tough masculine ideals and strive to feminine, "kind" and "fair" toward our enemies. Our evolutionary psychology is obviously geared toward being friendly with strangers and outsiders which leads us to forgot who are enemies and who genetically related kin are. However "blame" shouldn't have anything to do with ,their is no one blame this is not a logic class on cause and effect. It doesn't really matter who is to "blame", I don't care what jews did, the only fact is that they are not us. Yes the jews absolutely must be expelled but we will still have problems due to our innately relatively low levels of ethnocentrism, group consciouness and high levels of individualism and altrusim. We cannot change that and the jews and NW's know this and exploit it. The last thing we need to do is "whine" and scream that the jews are "persecuting" us and "holding us down", lets not sound like whiney niggers.

[QUOTE=MOMUS]
Just because "DOC" has proven to be stupider than you is no reason for you to get cocky. The difference is small , if you keep this spin up you will trip yourself like he did.
.[/QUOTE]
Wow you can say DOC is stupid. Not in person though. Funny how the Net cowards love to threat and call names. While I spent my high school days slapping around loud mouths like you, you can be brave here and hurl insults out into cyberspace.

Beg for some attention from your betters Momus, because no doubt you don’t get any attention from anyone else.

Letting a bunch of Africans run you from your house.

When I told you what to do you Cried like a baby, “what about equal housing laws” WWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Go ahead Momus and be a little whining crying baby while I live in my ALL WHITE neighborhood.


WWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
The Doc is doing something trying to keep a white community white. The Doc is trying to keep the family land inhabited by whites, WWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAA.

Yes Momus I am giving you attention you don’t deserve because other than a mild form of late night entertainment you are nothing to me.

You are just a crying voice in cyberspace and there is nothing you can say or do to me, you impotent little nothing.

[QUOTE=western-nationalist] lets not sound like whiney niggers.[/QUOTE]


Yeah listening to most people crying about Christians and Jews and Africans you would think WN stands for Whine Nationalism instead of White Nationalism.

It is time WN's started acting like men and not whiny Jew babies.

You never heard Dr Pierce whining or GLR crying about being in Jail.

Even David Duke didn’t cry about being in a ZOG gulag.

Even though I don’t agree 100% with Lane he doesn’t spend his days crying he is still more active than 99% of those that claim to be WN’s.

When you tell people how to do something all you hear is JEWS WWWWWAAAAAAAAAA CHRISTIANS WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Face it people Jews are to blame and they will never leave until Whites do something about it.

Man all this crying and moaning turns my stomach, I wonder how someone could come here and see this crying and still want to be a WN.

I can understand you gibbering with fury as each thread you visit becomes a "Doc the presidential-class liar" thread.
What the hell, you and I, we're a parade. liar-hunter chasing poor old dumb liar. Perhaps it's not fair.... but it's fun.
I tell you what, though, if you don't shut yer tard pie-hole I will make a flame thread for you that will burn yer britches. Shut up and go to bed or go to hell, lying tard.
Amazing! Stupider than Jim Crowe.
Wow, "Doc", you take the cake.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=7987
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Originally Posted by sean(doc)martin
I never made a flame thread about you. Take your Jew lies and tactics somewhere else.

Nowhere have I made a flame thread about you.

Everything you wanted to know about Momus including pics
Well I am sure as all of you are curious as to who or what a Momus is. Never fear because the relentless efforts of the good Doc has revealed everything you wanted to know about Momus. As usual I have carefully documented all of my research.

The history of Momus
Once upon a time in Folktronia, there was a strange beast, half shaman, half advertising man.

Every day he roamed through his remote mountain republic - exactly the size of an art gallery - making up songs and stories about electronics and folk art, and how they were becoming the same thing. How the electronic age is making its own creation myths. Stuff like that.

Sometimes the beast - his name was Momus - would switch on a video camera, record a story, and sell it to a tourist. Other times he'd mess with a synth, trying to make it sound like bagpipes, or get willing visitors to play Chinese Whispers with a song he'd written, to see if he could get some sort of oral tradition going.

It was strange and quite embarrassing. But later something caught your eye and you thought, hey, Momus would probably make a good story out of that.
http://www.lflgallery.com/momus.html


Momus pics before his amazing transformation
http://www.titan.co.nz/donna/pics/mnl1.jpg
http://www.titan.co.nz/donna/pics/mnl3.jpg
http://www.titan.co.nz/donna/pics/mnl2.jpg

http://www.titan.co.nz/donna/donmomus.htm


The Philosophy Of Momus"
http://www.phespirit.info/momus/images/199501.jpg
http://www.phespirit.info/momus/199501.htm


Momus by Carl Sandberg
(yeah Jews love him)
http://www.americanpoems.com/poets/carlsandburg/12751

The bloodline of Momus
Grey Momus was bred in Yorkshire by the popular Sir Tatton Sykes (1782-1863) of Sledmere, a notable turfite who was reputed to have seen seventy-six runnings of the St. Leger Stakes. He was owned as a two year old by John Bowes (1811-1885) of Streatlam Castle, Durham, breeder of the Derby winners Mundig

Following his turf career Grey Momus was exported to Germany. He was purchased by Count Hahn of Basedow, in northern Germany, the first German to compete successfully on the turf in England. His German-bred Turnus (b.c. 1846 Taurus) would win the Stewards' Cup and the Chesterfield Cup in 1850. In the stud Grey Momus got the Union-Rennen winner Dolores (gr.f. 1843) and the Henckel-Rennen winner Seal (b.c. 1849).
Momus after his final transformation (he is the one in gray)
http://www.bloodlines.net/TB/Portraits/PortraitsG/GreyMomus300.jpg
http://www.bloodlines.net/TB/Bios2/GreyMomus.htm

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]Wow you can say DOC is stupid. Not in person though. Funny how the Net cowards love to threat and call names. While I spent my high school days slapping around loud mouths like you, you can be brave here and hurl insults out into cyberspace.
Oh, I'd just love to say it to your face. That isn't
all that would happen to your face should we meet.
But I blow gas like yours.

[QUOTE=MOMUS]Amazing! Stupider than Jim Crowe.
[/QUOTE]

Stupider? lol

lolol



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damned right, Jim Crowe, but, like I told you, not enough for you to get real cocky. You can't help this uber-goober undo his stupidity or take back that monumental technicolor lie. It's all there, he is dumber than you.
Now BE QUIET, the hunt is still on, White brother. I smell a stinking anti right now. You better be off.
[QUOTE=Jim Crowe]Stupider? lol[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=western-nationalist]I hate to say it but I actually agree with Jim crowe, Whites obviously are to blame for our own problems. Not the jews , yes the jews distort and retard our culture and expolit our benevolent altruistic weakness however this would not happen we were more racially group conscious and ethnocentric. However I don't blame whites per se or anybody else for own problems whites have gotten complacent, weak, fatuous and medicore. We have given up on all tough masculine ideals and strive to feminine, "kind" and "fair" toward our enemies. Our evolutionary psychology is obviously geared toward being friendly with strangers and outsiders which leads us to forgot who are enemies and who genetically related kin are. However "blame" shouldn't have anything to do with ,their is no one blame this is not a logic class on cause and effect. It doesn't really matter who is to "blame", I don't care what jews did, the only fact is that they are not us. Yes the jews absolutely must be expelled but we will still have problems due to our innately relatively low levels of ethnocentrism, group consciouness and high levels of individualism and altrusim. We cannot change that and the jews and NW's know this and exploit it. The last thing we need to do is "whine" and scream that the jews are "persecuting" us and "holding us down", lets not sound like whiney niggers.[/QUOTE]

I am merely trying to point out that the jews are the antecedent of our decline. To focus solely on the fact that white collective character flaws are the problem is misleading. Blame does matter when you are looking for cause. Cause and effect exists in all things. Whites did not decide to let themselves be dispossed of their own country it was forced on them by a government being manipulated by jews. Integration was not something whites collectively chose it was forced on them. Fifty years of jewish media brainwashing has deteriorated the quality of our people and molded them into a bunch of mindless, nihilistic consumers. Focusing on the fact that we have let jews take advantage of us and stab us in the back does not change the fact that they have stabbed us in the back. It does not change the fact that they have control of the media and will continue to do everything they can to destroy us. The fact is Aryans are very obediant to authority. If we remove the jews from the equation the lemmings will change their thinking in short order. If we change the function of the equation from a jewish function to an Aryan one the result will change. Don't you remember basic psychology where the test subjects are told to shock the poor bastard because a very authoritarian Doctor stood over them telling them to do it, and most of them complied. As far as your reference to McDonald and our evolutionary psychology, which is to say our highly developed universal view of right and wrong it can be overcome with education from childhood on. But we won't get anything accomplished without elimination of the jew. Stop trying to reframe the debate by focusing the blame or cause on us because as McDonald says jews were a neccessary condition not the only one.

The collective faults of Aryans put in its simplest terms breaks down like this: Whites are fair minded and too universal in their views. Jews due to their parasitic nature have had to be anything but universal over the centuries to survive as a people. We have offered them a hand in friendship and they have driven a knife in our back. Any act of fairness or kindness is a weakness to a jew that they will immediately exploit. I don't think it is the result of any concious effort on their part they do it instinctively. Now the free-rangers want to tell me we placed the knife in our own back not the jews. Sorry thats a lie. These words have been scripted into jewish DNA: "Never give a sucker an even break". What do you do with a creature like that? You kill it.

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]Wow you can say DOC is stupid. Not in person though. Funny how the Net cowards love to threat and call names. While I spent my high school days slapping around loud mouths like you, you can be brave here and hurl insults out into cyberspace.

Beg for some attention from your betters Momus, because no doubt you don’t get any attention from anyone else.

Letting a bunch of Africans run you from your house.

When I told you what to do you Cried like a baby, “what about equal housing laws” WWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Go ahead Momus and be a little whining crying baby while I live in my ALL WHITE neighborhood.


WWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
The Doc is doing something trying to keep a white community white. The Doc is trying to keep the family land inhabited by whites, WWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAA.

Yes Momus I am giving you attention you don’t deserve because other than a mild form of late night entertainment you are nothing to me.

You are just a crying voice in cyberspace and there is nothing you can say or do to me, you impotent little nothing.




Yeah listening to most people crying about Christians and Jews and Africans you would think WN stands for Whine Nationalism instead of White Nationalism.

It is time WN's started acting like men and not whiny Jew babies.

You never heard Dr Pierce whining or GLR crying about being in Jail.

Even David Duke didn’t cry about being in a ZOG gulag.

Even though I don’t agree 100% with Lane he doesn’t spend his days crying he is still more active than 99% of those that claim to be WN’s.

When you tell people how to do something all you hear is JEWS WWWWWAAAAAAAAAA CHRISTIANS WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Face it people Jews are to blame and they will never leave until Whites do something about it.

Man all this crying and moaning turns my stomach, I wonder how someone could come here and see this crying and still want to be a WN.[/QUOTE]

"Doc" you are really full of shit. You make yourself look really weak with all of your bullshit. Lets see, you are a professional wrestler, a rare genius that does not sleep, a wealthy real estate magnate, a high school bad-ass, an entrepreneurial business owner and last but not least you are a fierce white activist as evidenced by your thread posting on this forum which constitutes activism on your part according to the "Good Ole Doc" celebrates his first month thread. Am I forgetting anything? How can we lose with you on our side? Momus relax, "Old Doc Martin" is here to save the day! Oh just why do you call yourself "Doc"? Do you claim to have a Phd?

[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter] Oh just why do you call yourself "Doc"? Do you claim to have a Phd?[/QUOTE]
Actually I am working on my PHD in theology. As soon as I can afford to go back to college, I hope to get past my masters.

I don’t like to go to college broke so I like to wait until I have saved enough money to pay cash for everything.

[QUOTE=Jim Crowe]There are some adverse groups, blacks and other non-whites, exert their own political clout and have nothing to do with Jews.[/QUOTE]

Disagree. What the kike gives the kike can take away. Look at what happened to Lee Alcorn and Cynthia McKinney.

Elements within the white race, have agendas that are not in line with white racial health.

Agree. The poison of Christianity comes to mind. All should recall that the Perle/Wolfowitz crowd first peddled the Iraq war scam to Clinton, who, despite vile zionist kikes running State, Defense and NSC, refused. It is the born-again Christian George W. Bush who was ordered by Yahweh to fight "militant" Islam by invading the most secular state in the Middle East. Just think how much better off we'd be if Dubya never found Jesus and remained a harmless coke addict. Instead, this is the jewdayo-Christian crowd that is murdering White troops:

To name just a few names: Pentecostal extremist John Ashcroft, who holds regular prayer meetings in the Department of Justice (DOJ) building, boiler room scammer Senator Tom DeLay, the outrageously delusional Sen. James Inhofe (are the folks in Oklahoma really that desperate, to keep electing this guy?), the segregationist Senator Trent Lott, Richard Army, cash-and-carry corporate Christians Pat Robertson, Billy Graham, and Jerry Falwell, Democratic poser (i.e. a right-winger who greased into office posing as a Democrat) Congressman Tom Lantos, Ralph Reed (co-chair of the Armageddon-engineering "Stand Israel"), the vicious Supreme Court Judges Scalia and Thomas, "journalist" William Kristol (a Zionist who uses his forum to promote the agenda of the Christian right), Gary Bauer (Kristol's partner in subversion), and rightwing Christian propaganda master supreme Reverend Sun Myung Moon (owner of the Washington Times and other publications). Another key fundie is Bush's long-time advisor Marvin "Who am I This Year?" Olasky. Olasky, who has been, at various times, a communist, an atheist and a Jew, now is identifying himself as a "born-again Christian." Incredibly enough, Olasky teaches journalism at the University of Texas (is it any wonder the media is screwed up?). Olasky coined the catch phrase "Compassionate Conservative."

http://www.newsinsider.org/seal/unchecked_and_unreported.html