View Full Version : Should non-Whites be confined to Opp. section?
Intrepid
08-08-2004, 07:36 PM
I'm just curious as to the general sentiment of forum members on this topic. Personally, I feel the insult of having to merely look at 3rd world infestation of our homelands is about all the diversity I can stomach. Again, is it also necessary to have to be deluged with their semi-literate blather on a White forum, as well?
I realize there is a school of thought present here that feels that anyone who is in accord with the WN view on the Jews is to be welcomed with open arms. I'd agree with that to a certain degree; however, I'd counter that opinion with this: Could that same objective not be met with their banishment to the Opposition section, or quite possibly a new section devoted to non-European stock, who are in concord with the basic tenents of WN? So, in reality, their - non-Whites - voices wouldn't be silenced, but merely better placed to meet their unique viewpoints.
It really comes down to this: Would you wish for Nation of Islam members to placing their commentary throughout the forum, simply because their views match ours on certain positions? Would the creators of Voz of Azatlan (sp?) be welcomed, too? Well, hopefully, you get my gist. How far down this road do we wish to travel before enough is enough? I know this poll has no bearing on the ultimate decision on these allies, yet perhaps it might serve as a general barometer of forum members views on the subject matter.
EDIT: As was brought to my attention, my wording on the second option was improper. The proper verbiage should, obviously, be prefaced by the word Yes. In other words, if voting for the second option, your intention is they be placed in the Opp. section.Also, the initial wording of the first option should be no. In essence, you have no issue with them posting at will. Sorry for the confusion. Hopefully, the poll will not replicate a bunch of Floridian Jews voting for Mr. Buchanan in 2000, because of my clumsy phaseology. :)
Jim Crowe
08-08-2004, 08:16 PM
It doesn't really bother me much depending on the individual. Kamangir42 is Iranian or part Iranian but doesn't claim to be white. She (he) posts some pretty intelligent stuff. Same goes for Anima.
In reality I doubt a neighborhood of whites would particularly care much if an Anima were to move into their neighborhood.
Intrepid
08-08-2004, 08:34 PM
Originally Posted by Jim Crowe
It doesn't really bother me much depending on the individual. Kamangir42 is Iranian or part Iranian but doesn't claim to be white. She (he) posts some pretty intelligent stuff. Same goes for Anima.
So, Jim, how would you define a possible line-in-the-sand that should be adhered to? Should it be if their posts aren't interesting nor intelligent? Should it be strictly based on their political perspective? I take it your setiments, as evidenced by your reply, lie with the last option; so, with that in mind, where would you make a distinction in allowing their posts throughout all of the sections on the forum?
In reality I doubt a neighborhood of whites would particularly care much if an Anima were to move into their neighborhood.
Call me crazy, but methinks some members here might beg to differ with your view.
Jim Crowe
08-08-2004, 09:01 PM
I think it should probably pertain more whether those individuals had an anti stance, which I don't see any evidence of, but you can make the argument that they are anti by just being non-white. This doesn't mean I'd like to see the forum flooded with non-whites.
As far as the neighborhood of whites I was talking about your average whites and not WN's, per se. Whites don't like the obvious foreign elements in the midst, like blacks and hispanics. A Eurasian tend to looks mostly white and Asian admixture is probably the least offensive admixture, if one must have an admixture.
Intrepid
08-08-2004, 09:15 PM
Originally Posted by Jim Crowe
I think it should probably pertain more whether those individuals had an anti stance, which I don't see any evidence of, but you can make the argument that they are anti by just being non-white. This doesn't mean I'd like to see the forum flooded with non-whites.
Well, Jim, you didn't answer my questions:
So, Jim, how would you define a possible line-in-the-sand that should be adhered to? Should it be if their posts aren't interesting nor intelligent? Should it be strictly based on their political perspective? ...so, with that in mind, where would you make a distinction in allowing their posts throughout all of the sections on the forum?
I made no reference to them being "anti" strictly because of the pigmentation of their skin. Theoretically, if the board were to be deluged with non-European stock, how would propose to stop it?
As far as the neighborhood of whites I was talking about your average whites and not WN's, per se. Whites don't like the obvious foreign elements in the midst, like blacks and hispanics. A Eurasian tend to looks mostly white and Asian admixture is probably the least offensive admixture, if one must have an admixture.
Yes, I would tend to agree with you here. That is, if we make a distinction between WNs and your average occupants of White suburban America.
Jim Crowe
08-08-2004, 09:45 PM
I guess the mods will have to deal with it if gets to be a problem at that point. I just don't see it as a problem at THIS point.
If it does I'm sure Franco will post Rule #4.
sean(doc)martin
08-08-2004, 09:52 PM
Yes non-whites should be confined to the opposition section and religious threads should be confined to the religious section. :D
Restore order and keep threads/posts in their properly designated places.
Anima Eternae
08-08-2004, 10:11 PM
religious threads should be confined to the religious section
Dude if that happened every thread you post in would be confined to the religion section. :D
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Intrepid
08-08-2004, 10:12 PM
Geez, Jim, throw me a bone here. My train-of-thought is fairly innocuous, no? Surely, you can create some hypothesis to combat this pontential calamady. What, pray tell, is to stop us from being outnumbered without Franco's 4th decree? In your opinion, what would constitute a problem. 5%? 10%? 25%? In reality, my query is but a microcosm of our larger real world issues at hand. I'm certain you have solutions to that problem, so why not this particular one?
I guess the mods will have to deal with it if gets to be a problem at that point. I just don't see it as a problem at THIS point.
If it does I'm sure Franco will post Rule #4.
sean(doc)martin
08-08-2004, 10:31 PM
[QUOTE=Anima Eternae]Dude if that happened every thread you post in would be confined to the religion section. :D
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Here is a list of my last 15 threads
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All in their proper forums. Also note that the 2 (out of 15) religious threads were in the religious forum, in their proper place. :D
Out of 60 threads here I have only done about 6 religious threads. 10% is not that bad.
Jim Crowe
08-08-2004, 10:42 PM
[QUOTE=Intrepid]In your opinion, what would constitute a problem. 5%? 10%? 25%? In reality, my query is but a microcosm of our larger real world issues at hand. I'm certain you have solutions to that problem, so why not this particular one?[/QUOTE]
I think a fair compromise would be for all non-whites to post in opposition folder, but with Anima and Kaminga42 grandfathered into other other forums, too. Of course this is something that Linder and/or the mods to decide.
I just think personally that those two posters don't detract from the theme of this forum, I don't have a problem with them posting anywhere on the forum.
Anima Eternae
08-08-2004, 10:44 PM
Out of 60 threads here I have only done about 6 religious threads. 10% is not that bad.
No, I wasn't referring to threads you created. I was referring to threads you post in. You and Jarl and Aryanlord and Yahweh just keep going on. If one of you posts in a thread, the other 3 are sure to come along with a huge religious clusterfuck. ;)
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sean(doc)martin
08-08-2004, 10:51 PM
[QUOTE=Anima Eternae]No, I wasn't referring to threads you created. I was referring to threads you post in. You and Jarl and Aryanlord and Yahweh just keep going on. If one of you posts in a thread, the other 3 are sure to come along with a huge religious cluster. ;)
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Can’t argue that. I am not alone in it though. You left out Dr A though.
Intrepid
08-08-2004, 11:05 PM
Originally Posted by Jim Crowe
I think a fair compromise would be for all non-whites to post in opposition folder, but with Anima and Kaminga42 grandfathered into other other forums, too. Of course this is something that Linder and/or the mods to decide.
Okay, while I don't share your opinion regarding the value of one of the aforementioned posters, that's at least a reasonable compromise. Meaning, the concept of grandfathering could be a viable alternative, imo, as well.
Perhaps others might have imput on this issue, too. In fact, I'm quite startled that nary a member has any problem with non-European stock presenting their opinions throughout the forum.
Also, might I please ask Anima and the preacher to keep the subject somewhat on topic.
sean(doc)martin
08-08-2004, 11:28 PM
Ok fair enough.
Perhaps it is the way you worded your poll
Should non-Whites be confined to Opp. section?
Yes, all non-european stock who are crititical of the Jews should be able to post anywhere on the forum
No, non-European stock should be confined to the Opposition section
I scanned it briefly and made the wrong vote. I think all non-whites should be confined to the opp section.
I think your yes/no seemed to contradict the following statement or perhaps I was in error the way I read it.
For the record I think ALL THREADS should go in their proper forum.
I am making an effort to do that as of late since I am still fairly new here.
I now put religious in its forum, news in it’s forum, entertainment, body building ect.
This keeps the sincere people seeking valuable information from having to wade through the sludge to find what they are looking for. Also it keeps good thread from getting bumped 3 pages back before anyone has a chance to view them. Most are not daily visitors and come once a week, and by that time a good thread is bumped 4 pages back with junk.
Anima Eternae
08-08-2004, 11:30 PM
I scanned it briefly and made the wrong vote. I think all non-whites should be confined to the opp section.
So if you chose the second option (which you did), you made the right vote. He messed up the wording of the poll.
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Intrepid
08-08-2004, 11:44 PM
Originally Posted by sean(doc)martin
Ok fair enough.
Perhaps it is the way you worded your poll
Should non-Whites be confined to Opp. section?
Yes, all non-european stock who are crititical of the Jews should be able to post anywhere on the forum
No, non-European stock should be confined to the Opposition section
I scanned it briefly and made the wrong vote. I think all non-whites should be confined to the opp section.
Your correction is duly noted. I've placed a disclaimer as to my folly in the initial post of the thread.
For the record I think ALL THREADS should go in their proper forum.
I am making an effort to do that as of late since I am still fairly new here.
I now put religious in its forum, news in it’s forum, entertainment, body building ect.
This keeps the sincere people seeking valuable information from having to wade through the sludge to find what they are looking for. Also it keeps good thread from getting bumped 3 pages back before anyone has a chance to view them. Most are not daily visitors and come once a week, and by that time a good thread is bumped 4 pages back with junk.
Yes, I share your convictions on the subject, too. However, your editorial might be more appropriate as a individual thread in its own rite.
Anima Eternae
08-08-2004, 11:46 PM
Your first option should also read "no"....as well as the second one reading "yes".
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sean(doc)martin
08-09-2004, 12:13 AM
[QUOTE=Intrepid]
Yes, I share your convictions on the subject, too. However, your editorial might be more appropriate as a individual thread in its own rite.[/QUOTE]
I did and you was the only one that gave an actual comment in that thread about that thread.
Anima Eternae
08-09-2004, 02:33 AM
liberals, jews, conservatives, coloreds, feminists
So by your logic, conservatives must also be moved to opposition, correct? What about pro-environment people? Sounds pretty left to me.
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My choice
Yes, all non-european stock who are pro-Aryan should be able to post anywhere on the forum
wasn't there unfortunately.
Anima Eternae
08-09-2004, 05:00 AM
If conservatives (especially of the neo-/ Free Republic variety) were to be moved there I would have zero qualms with that.
Now the notion that enviromentalism is only for liberals/leftists is just plain stupid when one looks at how alot of the roots of modern enviromentalism are from the National Socialist Volkish movement (and the Green Nazis that are itz descendents)
Aye, my point was a semantic one in reponse to yours, not an analytical one.
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Antiochus Epiphanes
08-09-2004, 10:54 AM
we have no way of knowing whether a vnnf member is one race or another, so trying to "confine" them runs the risk of merely making us look stupid and impotent.
better to get used to dealing with them and not afford ourselves a fantasyland where everybody's nicey nicey when life aint.
Solution to 14 words doesnt involve excluding people from cyberspace chat rooms, it involves excluding people from real space geography and polity.
Until then non-White contributors serve much good stimulating debate and so forth. This forum is not just about fun it's about practice. I am beginning to see our host's wisdom in his open orientation.
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