As comrades in the UK already know, I'm taking time out to take an IT course. I'm in my 40's and so I guess that makes me a mature student, and geek in training.

Last year I bought a PC with Vista installed, single core Athlon 64 CPU clocked at 2.2Ghz, and 1Gb of ecc ram. I thought it would be fast after my old P4 32 bit with 512mb sdram, was I wrong or what?

Anyways, I did a bit of research while studying for my A+, and although this might not be new to you guys, it was a revelation to me.

I had already partitioned my 180Gb hard drive, and following what I'd learned I simply installed Black XP to my spare partition, and made the partition active. Of course this will not work because the machine simply continues to boot up Vista. The answer is to boot from vista recovery, go into repair, and run a repair on the master boot record. Then you boot up Vista as normal, and download Easy BCD - Vista Boot Configuration. Start the program, its free, go to Add / Remove Entries, choose the drive (partition letter) you have installed XP on, pick XP/2000 etc on the drop down menu of Type, then click Save. Exit the program, reboot, and you should get the option of booting up Vista or Xp just after the splash or bios screen. Apparently you can use this method to switch between three different OS including Linux and PC Mac OSX.

Now vista is here for basic shit, but if I want speed and less hassle with bigger progs I'm using XP. It is worth knowing what make and model your mobo is though, just in case you need to add drivers, I am using an HP machine and so had to do just that, now XP works great on my machine.

I hope this was useful to someone here, all positive rep appreciated! :)

The bad thing about Vista is it is a resource hog, so if your PC is a bit old best to stick with XP.

Vista was bit buggy at first but with the updates and some tweaks for me it runs pretty stable, and I got my computer packed to the gills. I particularly like the S-3 standby in Vista.

The bad thing about Vista is it is a resource hog, so if your PC is a bit old best to stick with XP.

Vista was bit buggy at first but with the updates and some tweaks for me it runs pretty stable, and I got my computer packed to the gills. I particularly like the S-3 standby in Vista.

Agreed Vista has some great points, I love the simplicity of plugging in a new device and leaving Vista to get me the drivers and install them for me. But XP on a newer machine is also worth having, and I love having the choice on my main PC.

The bad thing about Vista is it is a resource hog, so if your PC is a bit old best to stick with XP.

Vista was bit buggy at first but with the updates and some tweaks for me it runs pretty stable, and I got my computer packed to the gills. I particularly like the S-3 standby in Vista.

I Haven't used Windows for years...just out of curiosity, when your computer is idle - no programs running etc, how much cpu is Vista
using? % = cpu to run idle..

As comrades in the UK already know, I'm taking time out to take an IT course. I'm in my 40's and so I guess that makes me a mature student, and geek in training.

Last year I bought a PC with Vista installed, single core Athlon 64 CPU clocked at 2.2Ghz, and 1Gb of ecc ram. I thought it would be fast after my old P4 32 bit with 512mb sdram, was I wrong or what?

Anyways, I did a bit of research while studying for my A+, and although this might not be new to you guys, it was a revelation to me.

I had already partitioned my 180Gb hard drive, and following what I'd learned I simply installed Black XP to my spare partition, and made the partition active. Of course this will not work because the machine simply continues to boot up Vista. The answer is to boot from vista recovery, go into repair, and run a repair on the master boot record. Then you boot up Vista as normal, and download Easy BCD - Vista Boot Configuration. Start the program, its free, go to Add / Remove Entries, choose the drive (partition letter) you have installed XP on, pick XP/2000 etc on the drop down menu of Type, then click Save. Exit the program, reboot, and you should get the option of booting up Vista or Xp just after the splash or bios screen. Apparently you can use this method to switch between three different OS including Linux and PC Mac OSX.

Now vista is here for basic shit, but if I want speed and less hassle with bigger progs I'm using XP. It is worth knowing what make and model your mobo is though, just in case you need to add drivers, I am using an HP machine and so had to do just that, now XP works great on my machine.

I hope this was useful to someone here, all positive rep appreciated! :)

When it comes to buying computers I would suggest buying a decent
system, something with amd64x2 or x4 cpu's and a mobo that's upgradable
to 8/16-gigs of ram.

What you want to do is take those old computers that you and your
family may have sitting in the corner or closet and build a general
use high availability clusters and start stacking.

If you aren't familiar computer clusters. Basically you take computers
and combine the cpu's to run in parallel. So you have 1.ghz now, drop
another 1ghz computer and you know have 2ghz ad infinitum.

I just picked up two 800-mhz computers at a rummage sale for $75
brought them home loaded the software and plugged them in, that added
1.6mhz to my cluster for $75. Take those old computers that you, family
& friends may have laying around and before you you know it...you will
have 10.ghz of computing power.

All you need is a 10/100-switch that can be picked up for next to
nothing, install OpenBSD/FreeBSD and use clusterit free software that's
in the ports tree and you're good to go.

Other than taking more memory, I don't see Vista as that much of a hog. My biggest complaint is the excessive default restriction, where you have to confirm just about anything you want to do.

Vista can run decently on as little as 512 megs of RAM, but I suggest at least 1 gig, and recommend 2 gigs. Memory is not that expensive now.

The biggest hogs of CPU are buggy programs and websites.

Microsoft is rubbish. We need a White distro of Linux.
Anyone wanna help me make one?

If you already have XP and you have the license number, and your PC starts to wear out, with sectors going bad, you can go to Uptech and buy a very basic tower and they will reinstall your XP on it. They won't reinstall all your other programs. Neither will they look in your machine for the XP license number, which I think is in the registry somewhere. But if you have an XP sticker on the old tower, they will use that. Ask them about "saving an old PC".

Microsoft is rubbish. We need a White distro of Linux.
Anyone wanna help me make one?

I've recently built a working computer out of bits I had lying around. It has a v small CPU and v little RAM, so I decided to install linux. I wiped the HDD and tried to clean install what ended up being ten different linux progs, they all crashed during install almost always with some IO device error, WTF? Since then I've had Win 98se and XP home installed without any problems.

I understand what you are saying, paying for Bill Gates' next new toupee is not my idea of money well spent. I like the idea of using free distro open source operating systems, a white proud linux system would be fantastic!

A relative of mine bought the Vista home basic upgrade and regrets it. It will not play store-bought DVDs and all the claimed codecs aren't working to fix it. I'm glad I'm avoiding Vista like the plague. I'm sticking with XP.

I Haven't used Windows for years...just out of curiosity, when your computer is idle - no programs running etc, how much cpu is Vista
using? % = cpu to run idle..

Usually about 1 percent. Although with Vista sometimes the harddrives seem to be running all the time.

Now vista is here for basic shit, but if I want speed and less hassle with bigger progs I'm using XP. It is worth knowing what make and model your mobo is though, just in case you need to add drivers, I am using an HP machine and so had to do just that, now XP works great on my machine.
Vi$ta is for shit, yes indeed it is. Or rather, it is shit.


I hope this was useful to someone here, all positive rep appreciated! :)
You expect positive rep. points for endorsing the ‘as much Israeli as it is American’ virus posing as OS, a.k.a. M$ Windoze?

You, as an English nationalist (right?), should rather consider something like an Iyonix PC (http://www.iyonix.com) or some other ARM-powered machine. The ARM processor is an incredible thing, the most used embedded processor architecture (among licenees... Intel), a pleasure to code with (it being RISC), a real beauty, extremely efficient and 100% White designed, even ARM Co., Ltd. (http://www.arm.com) is still in practically all-White hands. If RISC OS is not your thing, you can run ARM Linux (http://www.arm.linux.org.uk), NetBSD or OpenBSD. A computer powered by a Germanic British CPU, running on an ethnic Swedish Finnish UNIX-style operating system! A great statement against the Asiatic AMD and downright ‘Israeli’ Intel and let alone M$ kike shit!



I Haven't used Windows for years...just out of curiosity, when your computer is idle - no programs running etc, how much cpu is Vista
using? % = cpu to run idle..
On YouTube I saw a video by a Swedish guy, running Vi$ta idle, with something like 4GB... and something like 2GB (!!) was being used. For what, running nothing? No, except for the clunk of shit, that ‘Israeli-American’ malware group, M$', latest incarnation of its Windoze virus...



When it comes to buying computers I would suggest buying a decent
system, something with amd64x2 or x4 cpu's and a mobo that's upgradable
to 8/16-gigs of ram.
You might then as well get a server or rackmount system, with proper and a high-end BUS and system infrastructure, accepting premium (server/datacenter) quality RAM and such, for maximum throughput and bandwidth. You'll be relatively cheaper off like that, and get more...


What you want to do is take those old computers that you and your
family may have sitting in the corner or closet and build a general
use high availability clusters and start stacking.

If you aren't familiar computer clusters. Basically you take computers
and combine the cpu's to run in parallel. So you have 1.ghz now, drop
another 1ghz computer and you know have 2ghz ad infinitum.

I just picked up two 800-mhz computers at a rummage sale for $75
brought them home loaded the software and plugged them in, that added
1.6mhz to my cluster for $75. Take those old computers that you, family
& friends may have laying around and before you you know it...you will
have 10.ghz of computing power.
Measurements in hertzes constitute no valuable benchmark...


Either way, as for your proposals: If it's for (SMP) compiling jobs, or to serve for a low-grade visualization/rendering farm, it could work... if you don't have any deadlines whatsoever. And, if you have tons of $hekels to spend on electricity bills! :D


All you need is a 10/100-switch that can be picked up for next to
nothing, install OpenBSD/FreeBSD and use clusterit free software that's
in the ports tree and you're good to go.
The throughput will be horrible, certainly if you don't at least also use fibreoptical or gigabit networking (tons of bandwidth lost). The choice of operating system is great though, OpenBSD in particular!


Microsoft is rubbish. We need a White distro of Linux.
Anyone wanna help me make one?
Linux is White. It was created by an ethnic Swede from Finland. Even that niggerish ‘Ubuntu’ is of Whites, albeit nigger-loving scumbags. But hey, forget about ‘Ubuntu,’ it's barely Linux anyway... It's getting closer to M$, in the way it's becoming so incredibly bloated and sluggish.

True, GNU has some kike'ish founders, and what-not. But don't forget, UNIX was practically 100% White also. So Stallman et al, suck my goy dick!



As for my own advice, as I said before: If you can afford it, get one of these babies!


http://science.up.ac.za/assets/images/octane2.jpg

SGI Octane2
(Remarketed, but very affordable via second-hand channels; still used in the film industry for HD film editing!)


I've recently acquired a very high end SGI machine for almost nothing (in comparison), which is still in use in medical research, the defense industry, broadcasting, film and post-production studios, selling for prices between $75K and $110K (!!) on average. Everything about those machines is just so great, from a stability point-of-view to how the chassis and exterior is finished. And, it's not made in China (or Israel for that matter) either! Just perfect.

On YouTube I saw a video by a Swedish guy, running Vi idle, with something like 4GB... and something like 2GB (!!) was being used. For what, running nothing?

yeah, all these programs used to run on 1/100th the ram, 1/10 the processor speed, and did the same things. I remember the old 3.1 windows media player could play 6 or 7 video windows at once, on 8 megabyte of ram, and a 60 hz processor before it crashed. Now the damn thing crashes tryin to play one video file.


they are definitely conspiring with the software companies to make you think the software needs all that ram, to sell you more computers, more software. Well, you're software DOES need the ram because they made it need more ram.

Vista is outstanding. Those that disagree are simply wrong. (and are using shit hardware.)

If you want both XP and Vista, then run Vista as your primary OS and use Microsoft Virtual PC to run a VM session of XP.

I use a VM of XP to do all of my web browsing in. If the VM ever gets corrupted by a virus or malware, I can just refresh the VM in a matter of seconds and it's completely fresh. My host OS (Vista) is completely isolated.

Vista is outstanding. Those that disagree are simply wrong. (and are using shit hardware.)

If you want both XP and Vista, then run Vista as your primary OS and use Microsoft Virtual PC to run a VM session of XP.

I use a VM of XP to do all of my web browsing in. If the VM ever gets corrupted by a virus or malware, I can just refresh the VM in a matter of seconds and it's completely fresh. My host OS (Vista) is completely isolated.

Does that block the NSAs backdoor in MS OSs?

Every OS that you're going to load on your PC, once you connect it to ANY network, is inherently insecure. I don't care if you're a kool-aid drinking Linux worshipper, an Apple hippie, or an IBM blue suit.

The only question you need to answer is: How vulnerable am I willing to be to do what I need to do?

In terms of fit, finish, functionality, security, and ease of use, the Windows platform is the best of all current worlds, period...with Apple trailing a medium distance behind in second.

Vista is outstanding. Those that disagree are simply wrong. (and are using shit hardware.)
Oh lord... Am I reading this correctly?! Hey, buddy, are you sure you aren't receiving a paycheck of this mamzer? :)


http://absolutelyalex.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/steve-ballmer-ap.jpg

http://www.se51.net/devnull/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/steve_ballmer2.jpg



If you want both XP and Vista, then run Vista as your primary OS and use Microsoft Virtual PC to run a VM session of XP.
You once had to become Jew-wise, now you need to become Kikero$oft-wise. And it appears you still have a long road ahead of you! :D



I use a VM of XP to do all of my web browsing in. If the VM ever gets corrupted by a virus or malware, I can just refresh the VM in a matter of seconds and it's completely fresh. My host OS (Vista) is completely isolated.
Oh, wow! Wow! Just... oh my god, wowie wow! Isn't that great? It take only a ‘matter of seconds’ (yeah right, ROFL) to ‘completely fresh.’

Or, how about... an operating system that actually works?! :rofl


Does that block the NSAs backdoor in MS OSs?
Would it surprise you when the CEO of the mentioned company says that the company is ‘as American as it is Israeli (http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3546824,00.html)’?


Every OS that you're going to load on your PC, once you connect it to ANY network, is inherently insecure. I don't care if you're a kool-aid drinking Linux worshipper, an Apple hippie, or an IBM blue suit.
No it isn't. The ‘virus’ is mostly a Kikero$oft phenomenon, as if their latest ‘operating system’ (a.k.a. ‘Vi$ta’) isn't virus enough for you.

Really though, name me the last common Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, IRIX, AIX, HP-UX, Solaris/SunOS, OpenVMS, FreeVMS, BeOS, ZetaOS, Haiku, etc. ‘virus’? I dare you! :)



The only question you need to answer is: How vulnerable am I willing to be to do what I need to do?
Well, you tell me!


In terms of fit, finish, functionality, security, and ease of use, the Windows platform is the best of all current worlds, period...with Apple trailing a medium distance behind in second.
Err.... Fuck no! :lulz:


yeah, all these programs used to run on 1/100th the ram, 1/10 the processor speed, and did the same things. I remember the old 3.1 windows media player could play 6 or 7 video windows at once, on 8 megabyte of ram, and a 60 hz processor before it crashed. Now the damn thing crashes tryin to play one video file.

they are definitely conspiring with the software companies to make you think the software needs all that ram, to sell you more computers, more software. Well, you're software DOES need the ram because they made it need more ram.
Thankfully, at least one person that gets it!

Vista is outstanding. Those that disagree are simply wrong. (and are using shit hardware.)



Haha yeah right, Vista drowns performance on any computer, even the best.

Ok, kids.

Keep thinking the moon landing was faked, and keep thinking that your tinfoil helmets will keep the evil 4chan haxors out of your heads...

I've been in IT for my entire career and have had REAL WORLD hands-on experience with more hardware, software, and other equipment that many of you will ever see in your lives. I can remember when the blinking DOS prompt of DOS 3.3 was all we had and how stupidly cumbersome SCO Xenix used to be.

The Internet is an awesome thing....it provides a great soap box for everyone to communicate, but it allows self-professed 'experts' on every subject to dilute the facts down to the point where the person searching for information can't seem to find anything that makes any sense.

The only reason why I even bother with discussions such as this (with as many 'experts' involved) is to try to make sure folks aren't steered into an uneducated dead end.

All of this being said:

You're all pretty much wrong and/or don't understand what you're talking about.

If there were a better alternative that provided the same functionality and compatibility (and available software library), then I'd certainly be using it and singing its praises. I am no fan of Microsoft as a company, and their business practices and licensing sucks ass. (The same can be said of IBM). Sure, they are infested with kikes....but so is your TV programming...and I don't really give a damn what you say, most of you do watch the jewtube with regularity.

You need to just suck it up, get over it, and move on. Maybe one day a viable alternative will appear...but until that day, I'll still keep using what works the best for me....in the real world.

Hail Satan, White Power, Praise Jesus, Heil Hitler, Fourteen, Eighty-Eight, Ooga Booga, Oy Vey!

Keep thinking the moon landing was faked, and keep thinking that your tinfoil helmets will keep the evil 4chan haxors out of your heads...
Wow, and all this time I was under the false impression you loathed kikes! You must really love Steve Ballmer.


I've been in IT for my entire career and have had REAL WORLD hands-on experience with more hardware, software, and other equipment that many of you will ever see in your lives. I can remember when the blinking DOS prompt of DOS 3.3 was all we had and how stupidly cumbersome SCO Xenix used to be.
You must've had a pretty shitty job, dealing with Windoze. You're a real big sot, in the ‘real world’ (read: loser world... or simply the municipality center/town hall of your mestizo infested shithole of a hometown) where you were involved with some truly ‘high-end’ ... err... Windoze compyooduhs.

:lulz:


The Internet is an awesome thing....it provides a great soap box for everyone to communicate, but it allows self-professed 'experts' on every subject to dilute the facts down to the point where the person searching for information can't seem to find anything that makes any sense.
Yeah, and imagine if the Internet was hosted by Windoze. There would be no Internet, or only running 30 minutes per day... ISPs would have to reset the machines every 20 minutes, and wait 10 minutes for it to boot up (if they're lucky).


You're all pretty much wrong and/or don't understand what you're talking about.
You sound like Steve Ballmer's boyfriend.


If there were a better alternative that provided the same functionality and compatibility (and available software library), then I'd certainly be using it and singing its praises. I am no fan of Microsoft as a company, and their business practices and licensing sucks ass. (The same can be said of IBM). Sure, they are infested with kikes....but so is your TV programming...and I don't really give a damn what you say, most of you do watch the jewtube with regularity.
Nothing of Kikero$oft doesn't suck ass. Get that through your thick skull. The only reason they're still around because they're greedy, thieving, sub-human fucks and that the world is infested with two-digit IQ beasts that couldn't use anything else than Windoze.

If it wasn't for Kikero$oft dragging the whole goddamn (consumer) market to itself, there would be proper driver support for Linux, *BSD and other such *N*X-derived/similar operating systems (true operating systems, you know, where you can actually rely on and which work and don't hide fucking configuration files behind loads of slow-ass ‘configuration panels’).


You need to just suck it up, get over it, and move on. Maybe one day a viable alternative will appear...but until that day, I'll still keep using what works the best for me....in the real world.
There are, and were, tons of alternatives... many of which Kikero$oft (and Apple too, occasionally) personally destroyed. Just think of BeOS, it would've had the potential to destroy Kikero$oft (and Apple) on the consumer market. And it made a good chance.

By the way, you sound 100% like an anti-... but then in the realm of computers. I mean, this is what I often read of them in regard to us ‘hating the Jeeeewish peeople.’ ‘Get over it man,‘ ‘you can't go back to how it was,’ ‘you'll never get a White country again.’


Hail Satan, White Power, Praise Jesus, Heil Hitler, Fourteen, Eighty-Eight, Ooga Booga, Oy Vey!
Yes, oy vey indeed, Kikero$oft stooge!

I prefer the Apple OS. It was very hard to use at first, but now it is quite easy to handle.

I understand what you are saying, but it still depends on what you want to do. For example, if you are running a small server or running an office, then why bother upgrading any further than Windows 98SE? I've seen (repaired) old iMacs with very little CPU or memory, and installed linux on old Tiny's running 500mb cpu with 192mb ram and watched it go pdq.

Ok, kids.

Keep thinking the moon landing was faked, and keep thinking that your tinfoil helmets will keep the evil 4chan haxors out of your heads...

I've been in IT for my entire career and have had REAL WORLD hands-on experience with more hardware, software, and other equipment that many of you will ever see in your lives. I can remember when the blinking DOS prompt of DOS 3.3 was all we had and how stupidly cumbersome SCO Xenix used to be.

The Internet is an awesome thing....it provides a great soap box for everyone to communicate, but it allows self-professed 'experts' on every subject to dilute the facts down to the point where the person searching for information can't seem to find anything that makes any sense.

The only reason why I even bother with discussions such as this (with as many 'experts' involved) is to try to make sure folks aren't steered into an uneducated dead end.

All of this being said:

You're all pretty much wrong and/or don't understand what you're talking about.

If there were a better alternative that provided the same functionality and compatibility (and available software library), then I'd certainly be using it and singing its praises. I am no fan of Microsoft as a company, and their business practices and licensing sucks ass. (The same can be said of IBM). Sure, they are infested with kikes....but so is your TV programming...and I don't really give a damn what you say, most of you do watch the jewtube with regularity.

You need to just suck it up, get over it, and move on. Maybe one day a viable alternative will appear...but until that day, I'll still keep using what works the best for me....in the real world.

Hail Satan, White Power, Praise Jesus, Heil Hitler, Fourteen, Eighty-Eight, Ooga Booga, Oy Vey!

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I prefer the Apple OS. It was very hard to use at first, but now it is quite easy to handle.Samesies, but I thought it was really simple to learn. I can't go back to using Windows. The Jews created it to spy on us.

My biggest complaint is the excessive default restriction, where you have to confirm just about anything you want to do.

Yeah, it is completely friggin idiotic that that is the default setting, I just turned that shit off, someone logged on as the admin should not have to deal with that. To turn it off you go into settings and then windows security center, there you choose other security settings and turn off user account control.