Here is a reference to Jung's ideas about various archetypes:

http://www.acs.appstate.edu/~davisct/nt/jung.html

The Nature of the Archetypes
Dreams and myths are constellations of archetypal images. They are not free compositions by an artist who plans them for artistic or informational effects. Dreams and myths happen to human beings. The archetype speaks through us. It is a presence and a possibility of "significance." The ancients called them "gods" and "godddesses."

What then is an archetype? Jung discovered that humans have a "preconscious psychic disposition that enables a (man) to react in a human manner." These potentials for creation are actualized when they enter consciousness as images. There is a very important distinction between the "unconscious, pre- existent disposition" and the "archetypal image." The archetype may emerge into consciousness in myrids of variations. To put it another way, there are a very few basic archetypes or patterns which exist at the unconscious level, but there are an infinite variety of specific images which point back to these few patterns. Since these potentials for significance are not under conscious control, we may tend to fear them and deny their existence through repression. This has been a marked tendency in Modern Man, the man created by the French Revolution, the man who seeks to lead a life that is totally rational and under conscious control.

Where do the archetypes come from? In his earlier work, Jung tried to link the archetypes to heredity and regarded them as instinctual. We are born with these patterns which structure our imagination and make it distinctly human. Archetypes are thus very closely linked to our bodies. In his later work, Jung was convinced that the archetypes are psychoid, that is, "they shape matter (nature) as well as mind (psyche)" (Houston Smith, Forgotten Truth, 40). In other words, archetypes are elemental forces which play a vital role in the creation of the world and of the human mind itself. The ancients called them elemental spirits How do archetypes operate? Jung found the archetypal patterns and images in every culture and in every time period of human history. They behaved according to the same laws in all cases. He postulated the Universal Unconscious to account for this fact. We humans do not have separate, personal unconscious minds. We share a single Universal Unconscious. Mind is rooted in the Unconscious just as a tree is rooted in the ground. Imagine the Universal Unconscious as a cosmic computer. Our minds are subdirectories of the root directory. If we look in our personal "work areas," we find much material that is unique to our historical experience--could only have happened to us--but it is shaped according to universal patterns. If we humans have the courage to seek the source to which our "account" belongs, we begin to discover ever more impersonal and universal patterns. The directories of the cosmic computer to which we can gain access are filled with the myths of the human species.

Modern man fancies that he has escaped the myths through his conscious repudiation of revealed religion in favor of a purely rational natural religion (read: Natural Science). But consider his theories of human origin. In the beginning, there was a Big Bang, a cosmic explosion. This is an image from which reason may begin to work, but it is not itself a rational statement. It is a mythical construct. Consider the theory of biological evolution. Man's ancestors emerge from the seas, and they in turn emerged from a cosmic soup of DNA. The majority of creation myths also begin with the same image of man emerging from primordial oceans. See Genesis 1 or the Babylonian creation epic. Consider the Modern tendency to call ourselves persons from the Latin persona. The term derives from the "mask" of Dionysus. Moderns are the wearers of masks! The reality is concealed in the darkness of mystery. This too is a mythical construct.



The Archetypes
The Shadow
The most basic potential for patterning is the Shadow Archetype. This is the potential of experiencing the unconscious side of our unique personalities. As we move deeper into the dark side of our personality personal, identity begins to dissolve into "latent dispositions" common to all men. We experience the chaos which indicates that we are drawing close to the material structure of psychic life. This "Other Side" may be manifested in a wealth of images. The image of "wilderness" is fundamental. Remember that Hanzel and Gretel were led "into the woods" and were trapped. Knights discover dragons, ogres, and thieves in the woods. Robin Hood is at home in the wild. The image may be that of the mob and its underworld, an urban equivalent in which "Pretty Boy" Floyd is a hero. There is always "the concrete jungle." Dragons sail the sea, "the watery wilderness." Jesus and John the Baptist met God "in the wilderness," as did Israel at Sinai.

The Shadow is the easiest of the archetypes for most persons to experience. We tend to see it in "others." That is to say, we project our dark side onto others and thus interpret them as "enemies" or as "exotic" presences that facinate. We see the Shadow everywhere in popular culture. He is Batman. She is Spider Woman. It is the Ninga Turtles. We see it in popular prejudice as well. We "imagine" that the Black Man is our enemy; that Communists are devils. We incline towards Hawaii as the "land of paradise." We accept people uncritically if we perceive them as "Fair Haired." Of course, Satan is the great Shadow image of popular religion (Consider: the word only occurs 54 times in the entire Bible.)

The Shadow is the personification of that part of human, psychic possiblity that we deny in ourselves and project onto others. The goal of personality integration is to integrate the rejected, inferior side of our life into our total experience and to take responsibility for it.

The Anima Or Animus
The second most prevalent potential patterning is that of the Soul. Here we meet our inner opposite. Males meet their Anima (feminine soul); females their Animus (masculine soul). The Anima may appear as an exotic dancing girl or a weathered old hag--the form generally reflects either the condition or the needs of our soul presently. Remember the wicked witch encountered by Hanzel and Gretel. The Animus may appear as an exotic, senual, young man or as an old grouch. Remember the Great Oz who ran the Emerald City? There is always Simon Legree who took in Little Eva. Consider Super Man and Lois Lane. Clark Kent is the inferior, shadow side of Super Man, but he is also closer to ordinary people. Lois Lane has no interest in Clark. She is infatuated with Super Man, her Animus; the masculine completion of her personality. Wonder Woman offers us an example of the Anima in action.

The Syzygy (Divine Couple)
If one comes to terms with the Shadow and the Soul, one will encounter the enchanted castle with its King and Queen. This is a pattern of wholeness and integration. The opposites of the outer and the inner life are now joined in marriage. Great power arises from this integration. Christ and the Church, God and Israel are syzygy images. The believer who aspires to be the "bride of Christ" is modeling his or her experience in response to the syzygy archetype.

The Child
The Child Archetype is a pattern related to the hope and promise for new beginnings. It promises that Paradise can be regained. Child images like the New Year's Babe obviously derive from this archetype. So do the golden ring and the golden ball and most flower and circle related images. The birth of the Christ Child who unites Heaven and Earth, Man and God, is a powerful archetypal event. Were the life of Jesus not interpreted by this archetype, it would lose most of its meaning. Jesus would just be one more teacher from the Hellenistic world.

The Self
The ultimate pattern is the Self. For Jung this is the God image. Human self and divine self are incapable of distinction. All is Spirit. Images of Spirit abound. Wind and breath being two very common ones. The Spirit descends as a Dove upon Jesus in the wilderness. The voice declares to him his true nature: "Your are my Son, my Beloved." This is an archetypal drama of the Self. Galahad achieving the Grail and ascending with it to Heaven is likewise an archetypal drama of Self. Lancelot's failure to achieve the Grail speaks of his failure to achieve the final discovery of Self. Chariots and cars point in this direction. Remember the death car which comes in Darby O'Gill and the Little People? Ezekiel is taken up in a chariot of fire. Ezekiel Chapter One describes the chariot conveying God into the world.

Further Reading
Jung, Aion
Jung, Man and His Symbols
Jung, Psyche and Symbol.

yes woden hung himself at mimir's well for the runelore. isnt that how he also lost his eye? the motif of self sacrifice for deeper wisdom is compelling.

in the movie Passion, this came out, ironically enough, when Christ was standing there talking to Pilate in Latin. He said, you couldnt do this if I did not permit it; but my kingdom is not of this world.. [I'm paraphrasing] and ironically-- He had one eye beaten shut. One Eyed Odin, One Eyed Jesus.

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]
in the movie Passion, this came out, ironically enough, when Christ was standing there talking to Pilate in Latin. He said, you couldnt do this if I did not permit it; but my kingdom is not of this world.. [I'm paraphrasing] and ironically-- He had one eye beaten shut. One Eyed Odin, One Eyed Jesus.[/QUOTE]

I thought this bit about the shut eye in the Passion represented the sun (Jesus, the light of the world) being eclipsed by the moon.

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]Here is a reference to Jung's ideas about various archetypes:

http://www.acs.appstate.edu/~davisct/nt/jung.html

The Self
The ultimate pattern is the Self. For Jung this is the God image. Human self and divine self are incapable of distinction. All is Spirit. Images of Spirit abound. Wind and breath being two very common ones. The Spirit descends as a Dove upon Jesus in the wilderness. The voice declares to him his true nature: "Your are my Son, my Beloved." This is an archetypal drama of the Self. Galahad achieving the Grail and ascending with it to Heaven is likewise an archetypal drama of Self. Lancelot's failure to achieve the Grail speaks of his failure to achieve the final discovery of Self. Chariots and cars point in this direction. Remember the death car which comes in Darby O'Gill and the Little People? Ezekiel is taken up in a chariot of fire. Ezekiel Chapter One describes the chariot conveying God into the world.

Further Reading
Jung, Aion
Jung, Man and His Symbols
Jung, Psyche and Symbol.[/QUOTE]

Almost every Hollywood movie, esp. kids' movies, uses this formula (Christian).

This aura of darkness clings to the tarot cards, even now. Some religions shun the cards, and the scientific establishment condemns them as symbols of unreason, a holdover from an unenlightened past. Let us set aside these shadowy images for now and consider the tarot simply for what it is - a deck of picture cards. The question becomes - what can we do with them?

The answer lies with the unconscious - that deep level of memory and awareness that resides within each of us, but outside our everyday experience. Even though we ignore the action of the unconscious most of the time, it profoundly affects everything we do. In his writings, Sigmund Freud stressed the irrational, primitive aspect of the unconscious. He thought that it was the home of our most unacceptable desires and urges. His contemporary Carl Jung emphasized the positive, creative aspect of the unconscious. He tried to show that it has a collective component that touches universal qualities.

We may never know the full range and power of the unconscious, but there are ways to explore its landscape. Many techniques have been developed for this purpose - psychotherapy, dream interpretation, visualization and meditation. The tarot is another such tool.
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[QUOTE=Abzug Hoffman]I thought this bit about the shut eye in the Passion represented the sun (Jesus, the light of the world) being eclipsed by the moon.[/QUOTE]

interesting. there certainly was much light and darkness symbology in the film.

or it may have just been some makeup artists instinctual rendition of beaten Christ-

mandala, that is a word I had forgotten. (it got mixed up in my memory with Chandala, which I think is another word for sudra or the untouchables. Liek the Eta or h'ka'bushka in old Japan.) Mandala. an iconic symbol. here is commentary I found on the net attached to a graphic:

"This cloth appears to be a Mandala defined in Father Mitch Pacwa's book Catholics and the New Age as "Sanskrit term for 'magic circle.' Usually it is a circle or square divided symmetrically into four (or its multiples) sections. Some forms of yoga meditate on it to focus the attention on a single point and empty the mind. Jung considered it an archetype that was very important in therapy as a symbol of wholeness."
Other resources:

Mandala is Sanskrit for circle, polygon, community, connection.
The Mandala is a symbol of man or woman in the world, a support for the meditating person.
The mandala is often illustrated as a palace with four gates, facing the four corners of the Earth."

Is the swastika not a mandala?

The swastika (Sanskrit "good luck" or "well-being", literally "it is good"). The name and first use of the swastika was first mentioned in the Vedas, the holy texts of Hinduism. However, while its name is Vedic, it appears in art and design throughout human history, symbolising many different things; such as luck, Brahma, the Hindu concept of samsara, or Surya (the sun).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

The Nazi swastika is usually depicted at 45° to the horizontal. Two versions of the Nazi swastika commonly occur, one with outer bars pointed counter-clockwise, and the mirror image with outer bars pointed clockwise. Although the Nazis do not appear to have made a symbological distinction between the two, the latter is more common in their usage.

The use of the swastika was associated by Nazi theorists with their theories of Aryan cultural descent of the German people.
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A clockwise Nazi swastika

http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr5d_files/hitswas.jpeg

The Swastika can be used in many ways to heal.

It is a most excellent MANDALA.

Our Great Leader knew its power to HEAL so it was chosen to be the
symbol of the NS that brought about the healing
of a Germany laid out by jew perfidy.

It is rising again as does our Phoenix.
As does the German SPIRIT.

We will never be defeated.
We are eternal as is the Swastika and Hitler.
_________________
"Wir sind ein Volk des Geistes -
aber mit einer eisernen Faust!"

[QUOTE=Athena]The Swastika moving sunwise or Deosil is pulling in , bringing together.

The Swastika moving counterclockwise or Widdershins, is splaying out
or dispersing.

We use these motions in psychic healing.

When these motions are used with a power symbol such as the Swastika,
an ICON of the SunWheel or edelweiss,
we are making the healing more powerful.

We are bringing healing energy to the client
or dispersing fever or pain, swelling, discomfort.

Generally we will use the dispersal initially,
and succedently the gathering in.

The dispersal removes the energy we need to dispel and the
the Deosil brings fresh energy to the region of the healing.

[/QUOTE]

Bibbity babbity boo!

[QUOTE=Abzug Hoffman]Bibbity babbity boo![/QUOTE]

LOL.

My lower chakra needs some "healing" to "open the floodgates."

So has anybody read the book about Jung, "Aryan Christ?"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0679449450/102-3314821-8164920

Aryan Christ (revisionist biography of Jung) by Richard Noll
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0679449450/104-0025991-8281538

All of the reviews at Amazon.com are negative as this writer
tries to discredit Jung with twisting his words and calling his
students "followers" and claiming his work was a cult.

The jews HATE Jung as he showed them for what they are.
Here is an excerpt from an excellent review at Amazon.com:
Anyone familiar with this Jungian concept or similar concepts based upon Gnosticism is probably aware that the terms "inner-god" or "Self" do not literally indicate a person's Godhood or the transformation into a God in the Classical sense, yet indicate a change in awareness that elevates the person's consciousness to a primal state that is in harmony with the universe. Although I can't remember the page this is on, Noll gives a quote by Jung that specifically states his view that psychoanalysis is but one way in which to achieve greater self-awareness...

This explains what pre Gardenerian and Crowleyian Paganism are about.
(before the Wicca and other jew disguises of Paganism took hold)

One looks within ones soul as the Tetonic Knights were taught to do.

When seeking WITHIN one will discover ones strengths
and confront ones weaknesses.

One is not allowed to go thru life believing one has the RIGHT view
and can set up nations that force all inhabitants to conform
to that view especially when that view is deterimental
to the ones who do not hold that view
ie; male supremacy.

The personal journey is to learn to use the personal strengths
to transform the personal weaknesses.

Jung was excellent at this.
He had the essence of the PAGAN dynamic down so well.

I have read of him speaking with a new client
on the phone and seeing the horns of the delimma immediately
and with a few suggestions causing the recipient to
have a breakthru and go on to elminate the blocks and
rise to a more productive level with alacrity.

He was a truly amazing human being.
I use much of his works in my own counselling.

His writings have been tremendously helpful to me over
the years as I also came from a dysfnctional family
and had to find my own way out of the maze due to the dearth
of truly helpful therapy.

As Jung taught and many others who have been effective,
the horrors of childhood CAN be overcome if not forgotten
and they need not rule the life forever.

The path to overcoming is the path of a therapy based on
inner seeking, and guidnce by books or people who
HAVE RIDDEN THE WAVES THEMSELVES
so the practitioner becomes whole again thru hir own efforts.

The ancient metaphors of the "horns of a delimma"
and rewinding out of a spiral
or finding the path out of a maze are all in reference
to this work of the seeker in taking charge
of hir own healing by reworking the original betrayals
and healing them each along the way.

Peeling the layers to rediscover hir CORE BEING.
Walking the UNIVERSAL Labyrinth.

It is the practice of WITCHCRAFT.
What all PAGANS of the Old Ways were skilled at
and why xianity does not want us to know anything about it .


If we become SANE again they cannot control us .

With this in mind you can readily grasp that
judaeo/xian/muslim religions that HATE WOMEN
and keep people in the thrall of HATE are dying
and will be gone in another generation.

The world is moving to a better place
where women are honored again.

Those who cannot move on are doomed to
remain in this dimension and live with their hate and stagnation.

The New Age is here. We are each and everyone free
to make of it what we CHOOSE.

Heil Hitler!