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sean(doc)martin
08-17-2004, 04:27 PM
I was at a used bookstore and found this book written 1961 by H Grady Davis titled why we worship.

It contained the symbol for the NA, the symbol Dr Pierce chose to represent his organization.

I opened the cover and discovered that Davis was a Lutheran preacher and a Lutheran professor. Dr Pierce’s middle name was Luther.

Perhaps Dr Pierce was a closet Christian.

Cracker oftheWhip
08-17-2004, 05:46 PM
[color=black][font=Verdana]Man, you were Johnny on the spot with that answer DR ANTICHRIST. [/font][/color]

[color=black][font=Verdana]So why would a Lutheran preacher/professor use pagan symbolism as the cover for his book?[/font][/color]

Antiochus Epiphanes
08-17-2004, 05:54 PM
WLP was raised Presbyterian like many good biological racists. LOL But there is no chance he was a "closet Christian." Sean you should buy Dr Robert Griffin's book "Fame of Dead man's Deeds" off amazon or firstbooks.com.

I think the cross and life rune are related symbols. Both show a man with his arms spread in an attitude of worship and reverence of the sun. The sun that rises again day after day and is the source of all life.

sean(doc)martin
08-17-2004, 06:09 PM
[QUOTE=Cracker oftheWhip]
[color=black][font=Verdana]So why would a Lutheran preacher/professor use pagan symbolism as the cover for his book?[/font][/color][/QUOTE]

So why would a Lutheran and Dr Pierce use the same symbol, or why would Dr Pierce use a symbol on a well-known Christian book?

Also of note that book was published by Fortress Press, isn't there a WP record company with that name and a WP publication with that name also?

I know there is a group called fortress.

I don’t believe Pierce was a Christian but I don’t think he was as anti-Christian as everyone made him out to be.

Also didn’t he have some very close Christian friends?


Just a few thoughts.

Antiochus Epiphanes
08-17-2004, 06:17 PM
The symbol is from the futhark alphabet, and its called the life rune and it's an inspiring one. It's more of a surprise the other writer used it than Pierce, considering that it had volkische connotations from German usage.

sean(doc)martin
08-17-2004, 07:45 PM
Here is a bit of info I found on it.
YR
http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/pbrough/stav/images/yr.gif

Meaning: Male energies, A Bow (made of Yew)
Symbolises: Archery, single combat, Skiing, Skating
Mythology: Ull – The God of Winter
Fylgja: Bear, fox
Class: Yarl
Tree: Yew
Old Norwegian Rune Rhyme:
Yew is the greenest wood in the winter;
There is usually, when it burns, singeing.

Yr is associated with Ull, the god of winter. He plays very little part in the stories available to us so that we do not know all that much about him. We do know his hall is Ydalir, which means dales where the yews grow. Yew is the direct meaning of this rune, the tree is a poisonous evergreen which commonly grows in country churchyards. It is a very long lived tree and some specimens predate Christianity in Northern Europe. One interpretation of the shape of the Yr rune is that it represents the three roots of the world tree, Yggdrasil, usually referred to as an Ash, but these things are flexible in mythology. It is thus a doorway to the underworld of the dead where knowledge can be obtained which is only available to the denizens of that region. We learn most about this rune from the characteristics of the Yew tree and the best known product of its timber, the long bow. As the rune rhyme suggest the yew is a very important tree in winter, it remains green throughout and is very securely rooted. This means that it is a great protector against winter storms. Other evergreens such as pine are not strong enough to stand the driving wind and snow. Yr is a rune of paradoxes, combining life and death, with its roots in the graveyard yet living a very long time. Green leaves which survive even the bitterest winter storms. Immense resilience from a combination of outer hardness and inner flexibility. A poisonous tree which provides a most efficient method of hunting fresh food. A timber that burns with an intense heat yet sustains the fire longer that any other. It is a rune that symbolises death, yet it is in facing death with a clam acceptance that gives the best hope of surviving single combat.

Jenab
08-17-2004, 09:38 PM
[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]So why would a Lutheran and Dr Pierce use the same symbol, or why would Dr Pierce use a symbol on a well-known Christian book?
Also of note that book was published by Fortress Press, isn't there a WP record company with that name and a WP publication with that name also? I know there is a group called fortress. I don’t believe Pierce was a Christian but I don’t think he was as anti-Christian as everyone made him out to be. Also didn’t he have some very close Christian friends? Just a few thoughts.[/QUOTE]
And Dr. Pierce kept a Bible in his office on the shelf behind his desk chair. He let me borrow it a couple of times. He wasn't a Christian though. Sometimes even an atheist has a reason to look up verses.

Jerry Abbott

FranzJoseph
08-18-2004, 03:15 PM
AE has it right. Runes are all-purpose symbols now. They're even on the back of ambulances in the US. I doubt seriously that all ambulance drivers are Odinist.

Glyphs and letters form a language of their own. Egyptian ankhs are still in style after 7,000 years, but only as a symbol. In 7,000 years maybe some of our letters and words will still be around in someone else's archaic but useful clipbook.