Here is a bbc article on EU constitution. Links to the actual text on the bbc page.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2950276.stm

Here is a bbc article on EU constitution. Links to the actual text on the bbc page.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2950276.stm

So what do you think of the EU concept of qualified majority voting? - Its not likely to affect the likes of you sitting in the mid-west is it?. :rolleyes:

you go ahead and explain it for our gentle readers and I will weigh in.

you go ahead and explain it for our gentle readers and I will weigh in.

The educated reader already knows about it.

I shouldnt have to do an instant course for the sole benefit of Analfocus Epiphanes . You obviously can't "weigh in" because you are just a feather-assed lightweight and know f.all about the E.U constitution and its decision-making process based on qualified majorityvoting and the resultant Directives(not laws) that are imposed on European governments .

But then again, from the sheltered isolation of your bunker with your pistol ready loaded, why should you be expected to know the EU constitution and what is happening as the Red Beast of Socialism comes ever closer to your door?


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LOL. lightweight. first time I've been called that. you can play gotcha all you want boy, I have forgotten more about constitutional law than you know.

thanks for the compliment anyways, and here I was thinking I was a wee bit overweight.

say do you still think Hitler was a coward? Is that whay makes you and expert on the EU?

LOL. lightweight. first time I've been called that. you can play gotcha all you want boy, I have forgotten more about constitutional law than you know.

thanks for the compliment anyways, and here I was thinking I was a wee bit overweight.

say do you still think Hitler was a coward? Is that whay makes you and expert on the EU?

Your logic is fitting for one who thinks that Hitler's suicide helped the Nazi cause. Perhaps you would care to try the same terminal approach to further the cause?.

It may be agreeable to your Constitution?. :D

keep on hoping for my demise Daisy, keep on hoping. I wont be obliging anybody soon.

So I take it, you felt the need to criticize my link and solicit my comment on qualified majority voting but are unable to explain yourself. Why would you ask about this topic unless you were just pissed off and trying to be a smartass? If you have something to say about it, go ahead and state what it is and why you feel it's relevant to mention here and whatever else you got out of the BBC article.

Otherwise, if you just want to pick fights, skip the granstanding.

If you have something to say about it, go ahead and state what it is and why you feel it's relevant to mention here and whatever else you got out of the BBC article.

Otherwise, if you just want to pick fights, skip the granstanding.

What I have to say about it is that EU system of weighted votes under QMV (qualified majority voting) has devolved the decision making from individual country's parliaments and replaced it by a system where the wishes of one country's people can be vetoed by the other countries representatives .

- Britain's objections to the Schengen Treaty or having the right to have nominal controls over taxation, health policy, immigration and other major issues; is under threat.

- The Defence of Britain is under threat as the country's right to have an independent Army are under pressure. The 'Euro Army' being pushed by France, Germany and Belgium is one example.

For some EU decisions whereby each member state has a fixed number of votes, at present any decision taken using QMV must gain a minimum of about 70% of the total votes in order to be adopted. Currently this is 88 votes (of 124), so it allows a few countries to gang-up and block a decision that is in an individual country's interests - the immigration issue being a major concern for the British people although not for the red socialist labour government.

The ten new member states of the EU make the QMV system even more messy to apply than it currently is. The result is weak decision making and for individual states such as Britain the peoples nominal representation via an elected 'parliamentary democracy' is being reduced.

In short Britain's parlaiment is a becoming an entity that merely 'rubber stamps' EU directives decided by other countries(thanks to the QMV system), rather than having the Houses of parliament representing the wishes of the British people.

The EU is a disaster to Britain - the USA's only firm ally in Europe? - and US / UK political links will become weakened. The Treaty of Nice that comes into effect later this year, exacerbates the reduction in sovereignty of individual member states and reduces subsidiarity.

The unworthy BBC article you referred to is typical rubbishy left wing BBC propaganda that is pro-European integration and firmly in the multiculturalism camp.

As for your smeary comment on 'granstanding' - I wouldnt dream of standing on your poor old gran. So Antiochus 'Miss Constitution' Epiphane what do you think of the BBC world-view ?
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Finally! LOL

Excellent comments regarding the EU "constitution." I knew somebody here would have some pointed remarks to make about it, which is why I linked the article. So far I have only read extensive comments about the EU at this forum by Fredrik Haerne. I am happy to hear that there is somebody else here who can speak on this matter intelligently. I am in complete agreement with your remarks on the topic of the EU constitution.

"The EU constitution will institutionalise privatisation and the neo-liberal economics that have helped wreck industries in Britain and turned the EU into one of the (economically developed world's) low growth regions " - says Bob Crow Trades union leader in the UK.

Blair's pro-EU Constitution policy is threatened by growing antipathy from its its traditional supporters - the UK Trades Unions.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/16/ntuc16.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/09/16/ixhome.html

Although there is great deal of debate on VNN and other sites about who is going to be elected leader of the BNP (and it looks like a one-horse race now that Griffins team has prevented john Tyndall from being in the running):

The BNP, even if elected, would have to reckon with thefact that Britain's Parliament has been rendered into a 'rubber-stamp' parliament only.

The decisions are taken by the EU parliament inline with the EU Constitution's aims - and national sovereignty in Britain no longer effectively exists at the senior political level