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McKinley
December 22nd, 2008, 10:36 AM
Shot teen Tyler Cassidy joined 'white pride' racist group



Mark Dunn

December 13, 2008 12:00am

TYLER Ian Cassidy joined the "white pride" racist group Southern Cross Soldiers as his life spiralled into alcohol abuse and prejudice.

A former friend who knew Cassidy well spoke of his violent temper and told the Herald Sun that had the police not shot Tyler he would have made good on his threat to kill one of the officers.

According to some close to the 15-year-old, Cassidy regularly taunted police as "pigs" and - although far from looking the part - embraced a skinhead ethos.

He was earning his keep washing dishes at Collingwood's colourful Leinster Arms Hotel, a haunt for the likes of Mark "Chopper" Reid.

It has also been a favoured drinking spot for several high-profile white supremacists.

But it is unknown whether exposure to some of those patrons introduced him to extremist race views.

Having lost his father, Ian, about six years ago, reportedly to cancer, Tyler had in more recent times shown signs of his inner turmoil.

The troubled youth was expelled six months ago from Templestowe College for throwing a chair, threatening a teacher, fighting and truancy.

His former friend said he had fallen in with the wrong crowd and begun hanging around a group of self-styled skinheads, often at Eltham train station.

He said Tyler was known for his sporadic violence, but other than an assault matter, he had no criminal history.

He did "minor things, such as randomly attacking people he did not like the look of or acting tough and starting fights with anyone he could", the former associate said.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24792293-2862,00.html

http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/?p=1547

McKinley
December 22nd, 2008, 10:37 AM
More press on Tyler Cassidy shooting
Published by @ndy December 13th, 2008 in Media

December 13

‘Neo- Nazi’ boy, 15, is shot dead by Australian police in skate park, The Daily Mail
Police pursue ’suicide by cop’ angle in teen shooting death, Geesche Jacobsen, SMH
Tyler Cassidy’s final night of fury, Roger Franklin, Herald Sun
Kill me. I’m going to kill you’, Tyler Cassidy told police, Herald Sun
Shot teen Tyler Cassidy joined ‘white pride’ racist group, Mark Dunn, Herald Sun
Call for answers after cops kill 15-year-old Tyler Cassidy, Julie-Anne Davies and Milanda Rout, The Australian:

According to Cam Smith, the organiser of FightdemBack, a group which fights race-hate groups in Australia, the Southern Cross Soldiers is mainly organised through MySpace and there are at least 1000 members in nine chapters across the country.

The gang is made up of mainly teenagers, but the leaders were aged in their mid-twenties and the group was set up through the internet after the Cronulla riots. “They are mainly young people and are organised extensively through MySpace,” Mr Smith said. “It is a post-Cronulla thing. A lot of people who had been inspired by Cronulla have connected through the internet.”

Mr Smith said the Southern Cross Soldiers first came across the radar in January. “They are a gang whose activities are mainly limited to fights with other groups and occasionally picking on the random minority in the street,” Mr Smith said.

“A number of them are fairly hard-core neo-Nazis. The rest of them are fairly hard-core racists. They are interested in racial purity in Australia.”

Death calls for an answer, Herald Sun (Editorial)
Two knives, three alarmed police officers and a ’scared little boy’ lies dead in seconds, John Silvester, Farah Farouque and Lucy Battersby

A spokesman for anti-racist monitoring group Fight Dem Back, Cam Smith, said the group, made up of under-age teenagers, had a propensity to get into fights with other gangs.

Shooting reignites debate on police tactics and use of Taser stun guns, John Silvester
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1. 1 Lev Davidovich Bronstein Dec 13th, 2008 at 1:48 am

Congrats for getting some mention in the MSM.

But what is your take on a nazi getting wasted by the pigs?

Given that he was just a kid and so I guess you could say his death was the result of the poison of racist ideology…

Anyway, interested in [y]our comment…
2. 2 @ndy Dec 13th, 2008 at 2:09 am

I don’t believe Tyler was a ‘nazi’ — a kid with racist and xenophobic tendencies, yes, but how deeply-rooted, I dunno: he was only 15, after all. I also don’t believe that his ‘ideology’ — such as it was — necessarily had any direct bearing on his death. Leaving aside a recent altercation in which he apparently came off second-best, from the partial accounts that are available (such as those contained in the above articles), Tyler had some ‘issues’; relating, probably, to the death of his father from cancer several years ago. In this context, I think that SCS provides a model of Australian masculinity that is attractive to some — especially teenage boys, of largely Anglo- descent — on the grounds that it projects an image of masterful competence, one which helps to fill a particular void.

In summary, there’s nothing to celebrate in Tyler’s death, and his family will obviously be in tremendous mourning over his loss.

(By the way Lev, it’s .net, not .com.)
3. 3 SKOT Dec 13th, 2008 at 10:25 am

The key issue though, as always, is cunningly sidestepped.

With all these emotive terms such as ‘neo-nazi’ and ‘race hate’ thrown around.

What do [we?] imagine is wrong with people of a country, loving and fighting to protect their own country?

I can sense that people, groups, and situations like this will keep rising as people get fed up of swallowing their dignity, and actually being forced to mutely stand by, as the country that their forefathers actually had to strive and build, throughout trouble times, is swamped by masses of migrants and refugees, who all actually are unbridled in their hatred of each other, yet who are keen to take from, and make what they can out of, Australia…with scant regard, smug dismissal, and often downright contempt, for actual Australians.

Oh, and who “organises” this rubbish called “FightdemBack”?…who are they?…and who are the “dem” that they presume to have the authority to be “fighting back”?

And, ‘@ndy”, the VAST majority of the people who started and built Australia are Celts…Irish, Scottish, Cornish and Welsh…under the aegis/domination of the ruling English elite.

SKOT
4. 4 broken left leg Dec 13th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

I’ve got a post on the recruitment of radical gang members that may be of interest.
I’m tipping Tyler would have been one of the younger and newer members of SCS.
5. 5 Kadet Dec 13th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

It’s horrible a 15 year old was killed by police, an institution these “patriots” should realistically should support as they’re an institution that functions as apart of the nation state. Ironic in a way, but seeing as the kid had fascist tendencies in the first place, I have little sympathy for him. More so for his family who had to deal with the brat both in life and in death.

Proof nationalism isn’t good for you.

PS. Death to SCS.
6. 6 SKOT Dec 13th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

Does your notion of “not good” nationalism encompass all those ethnically/nationality based/biased “community groups” now undermining Australia?

Does that, and the notion of “radical gangs”, extend to all those vicious ethnic gangs plaguing Melbourne…or are they just “victims”…merely “misunderstood”?

Fascism…fascio…”a bundle”…a bundle of people…good Fascism, real Fascism, could be beautiful!

SKOT
7. 7 Ruba Dec 14th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

SKOT you twit there have been (for example) Chinese people here since the late 1800s. Their contribution to this country was limited only by the racist sentiments and laws of the Celtic majority. The Italians may have arrived later but they comprise something like 40% of Melbourne now. Why should the descendants of these people be seen as an enemy? Why is their presence undermining Australia?

As most rational people know, it’s no accident that only mediocre misfits that gravitate towards groups like the SCS. It’s precisely those who lack the ability to compete with migrants (and other Australians) on an even playing field that have to bury their insecurities and puff up their own sagging egos by spewing vitriol against innocent people. Most of you fools are on welfare and do nothing all day but masturbate and preach hate, while the immigrants you so despise are decent folks who actually contribute towards society.

Ironically, you fail to realise that if all the ‘muds’ were deported tomorrow, the likes of you would be the new ‘blacks’ … and far more deserving of the shitty treatment you would receive than they, I might add.
8. 8 Brennan Conaghan Dec 15th, 2008 at 6:17 am

Police involved: three imbeciles
Other – hope they don’t silence the witness

I LEFT this ON Victorian Police Website and to Rob Hudson Vic politician in charge of these hillbilly Victorian Police

Comments:

The three (since read four) police officers who shot that 15 year old boy Tyler Cassidy should be prosecuted for their gross stupidity.

Family is angry I am enraged.

This incident is TOTAL BULLS?IT.

I’m an Australian in the USA and all the police here have tasers. Call the state and federal govt and get them you incompetent fools.

Just as well it was not my son or those police could jump into their coffins now.

I hope these BUTTHEADS are dealt with severely.

P.S DID THE POLICE GO AND HIDE BEHIND TH[EI]R MOTHERS. PATHETIC EXCUSES FOR HUMAN BEINGS.

Don’t forget to ask the officers WHY they all 3 three had to shoot at short range?
Also what stopped them from shooting the boy in the legs?
Answer DUMB Australian moron uneducated wack jobs excuse for police officers.
DUH we can’t shoot straight.

Any football types would have handled it properly and tried reasoning. Would you like 3 pigs pointing their guns at you? Jesus help us now I read 2 of the police were women.

Too much Rambo crap for me. These police mongrels will always try to SMEAR and cover their asses by making out he’s a radical. I don’t buy that hogwash and don’t care if he was in the Taliban. The police must use good judgment in situations or be sued like in the USA re the Rodney King beating.

A vigilante group needs to exact revenge on these sort of despicable police types who actually get away with murder. One person could have shot him in the legs. How useless are you police shit hea?s.

P.P.S Citizens have to start demanding that this type of crap stop once and for all.

Brennan Conaghan B Bus., M App Fin., M Tax Laws. So folks professional people get just as peeved as anyone else about these outrages.
9. 9 CaptainReality Dec 16th, 2008 at 11:09 am

“Any football types would have handled it properly and tried reasoning. Would you like 3 pigs pointing their guns at you? Jesus help us now I read 2 of the police were women.”

Football types? Good God, man! Are you drunk. How would I like 3 pigs pointing their guns at me? I wouldn’t like it. I’d dislike it so much that I’d drop the 2 knives I was holding and put my hands up, at which point they’d tackle me, arrest me, and off in the divvy van I’d go.

“Jesus help us now I read 2 of the police were women.” So what? Perhaps if they were all men, then he wouldn’t have been shot so much. Truly bizarre.

“Too much Rambo crap for me.” Au contraire, it seems that you live in a fantasy land akin to a Rambo movie. In your world, police can pull trick shots like shooting a running assailant in the legs. Here’s a clue… every police force IN THE WORLD aims for the centre of mass (i.e. the chest) when shooting at an assailant. There are a number of reasons for this, which I won’t explain now, as they can be easily looked up, and you most likely wouldn’t understand them.

“Just as well it was not my son or those police could jump into their coffins now.” What are you, some kind of retard? Perhaps you’re just a ‘bit thick’.

“Brennan Conaghan B Bus., M App Fin., M Tax Laws.” Oooooooh! Colour me impressed. An accountant! Here’s a question: you’re obviously educated; have you had recent head-trauma? I ask because your poor spelling, random capitalisation, incoherent prose, and poor logic indicate otherwise.
10. 10 Christine Dec 16th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

Victoria Police … should only be armed with tazers. Leave it to the professionals in the armed response/tactical unit to handle firearms. Police have only year 11 or 12 qualifications, they do a tafe course, go to the police academy for a few months, and they get to carry pistols! In some countries it takes years of training to get to carry a firearm, here it is a different story. You would want your doctor to have years of training before treating you, should demand the same of those carrying firearms. Uniformed police are not worthy of carrying a firearm, properly trained tactical response members are, it’s what they do every day. I urge everyone to write to their local mp regarding this. Someone should start a lobby group for this cause. I do not know why police carry guns at all, everything is circumstantial to them.
11. 11 Ronin Dec 17th, 2008 at 12:52 am

So what if he was 15, so what if he was a ‘good boy’, mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters die every day. but do their mourners run around with knives and threaten to kill innocent people? i’m not saying he deserved to die, but if you threaten to kill people with knives then you deserve what you get. i’m guessing the boy’s upbringing, lifestyle, chosen friends and lack of education are to blame here. NOT THE POLICE.
12. 12 Minder Dec 17th, 2008 at 11:22 am

What a great society it is where the State Government regards such outcomes as “cost effective” compared to the training and hardware dollars associated with issuing tasers to all their police who might actually need them. Don’t kid yourself, don’t let the crocodile tears and sham sympathy blind you, this is all about money. Can anyone name another profession or trade that still has to work with the same tools their grandfathers used? Give the Police a gun and a stick as their only tools and what other possible outcome can there be in these situations? The sad part is that this kid clearly planned his “suicide by cop” knowing that his Ned Kelly era equipped local police would be left with no alternative. Hate the game, people, not the players.
13. 13 SKOT Dec 17th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

Ruba, I am not a “twit”.

And there has actually been Chinese here since the mid-1800s.

I have a Chinese uncle, whose great-grandfather came here during the gold rush of the 1850s.
I’ve seen a magnificent picture of him, with silk robe, manchu pigtail, the whole bit.

He married a Welsh woman, and integrated very quickly.
My uncle used to participate in carrying the dragon during Chinese New Year celebrations in Bendigo.

Only recently, I visited the See Yap society in Melbourne, the first Chinese society in Australia, founded in 1854.

However!

Those early Chinese, and their descendents, only ever constituted a tiny minority in Australia, and they always played a part within Australian society.
Essentially though, the ultra small Chinese minority in Australia could have NOT been here and it would make not one iota of difference.
To say that the limited Chinese presence in Australia equates to being on the same level of the British majority who built Australia, is ludicrous, and you were calling me a “twit”?

The Chinese often went forth into British colonies, notably Malaya and Singapore, to make the most of the trade opportunities afforded by the British Empire.

Many older Chinese actually dislike the influx of new Chinese, and other foreigners, now flooding this country, and who don’t care one jot for it!
Only recently, I was speaking with an elderly Chinese man who really hates all the new Chinese here, who just want to make money, and don’t care about this country.

I have an Italian uncle as well!
He is very candid though, he always says he is Italian, even though he has been here near to fifty years, and has worked, very, hard.
And, let me tell you though, he is not backwards in coming forwards about hating the loads of people teeming into Australia now!
We speak with a lot of admiration for the policies of the Northern League in Italy.

By the way though, the Italians do not, repeat…do NOT, constitute “something like” 40% of the population of Melbourne.

The point being, above all else, is that the crucial building time of Australia was pre-World War II.
The house was built, any migrants only come in and move the furniture around.

Neither the Chinese or the Italians founded, or built, Australia.
And none would make claim to!
This all should be obvious!
Does it really need to be explained?

Furthermore, why should any Australians be forced to compete with migrants?
Really, why?
This new situation is always stated, as though it’s written in the stones, and must be “dealt with”, as is…yet it is NEVER explained, why?
One might ask, if those people couldn’t “compete” in their own country, then why should they come and make it even tougher here?

Yes, working people have often been seen as being “shit” here in Australia, so lovely “Ruba”, of you to point that out.
How does making things worse seem to you to be making things better?

And, do you really want to go there Ruba?
Yes, I masturbate a lot…I’m passionate, I’ve got a strong sex drive, I’m emotional…yet in this ghastly “new” “society” I, like all too many men, get continually rejected by females…and, well, there’s a whole lot worse things going on, that’s for sure!

And I don’t “preach hate”.

I hate what is hateable.

How come all those “liberals” who swear, profane, insult, mock, attack and ridicule, don’t get painted as “preaching hate”.

I love, and I hate, that is human.

I hate when bad things happen, if you imagine that there is something wrong with that, then, again, you’d better reconsider who you’re calling a “twit”.

SKOT
14. 14 Dr. Cam Dec 17th, 2008 at 6:12 pm

“Yes, I masturbate a lot…I’m passionate, I’ve got a strong sex drive, I’m emotional…yet in this ghastly “new” “society” I, like all too many men, get continually rejected by females…and, well, there’s a whole lot worse things going on, that’s for sure!”

Do you really think you’d be copping more booty if the British Empire hadn’t fallen?
15. 15 Jeff Simmons Dec 18th, 2008 at 9:33 am

Some of the people on this site are as pathetic as the Victoria Police. This is a 15-year old kid for fuck’s sake! A confused 15-year old kid gunned down by trigger happy “law enforcement” officers. Who cares if he had connections to some far right movement — it’s a distraction doubtless intended to switch the focus away from the fact that the BOY was gunned down by police.
I grew up in East London amid a thriving 1970s racist culture. At 15 I was as racist as all my white neighbours and relatives; yet today I am married to a half Indian/half Tibetan lady and have a beautiful multiracial daughter. You don’t shoot young racists — you educate them. Anyone who thinks that this BOY had it coming because he was racist is worse than pathetic.
16. 16 Manman Dec 18th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

I don’t care what anyone say there surely would have been a better way to handle this situation,He was only a 15 year old kid -confused at that,my deepest sympathy to his parents and family,police need to be educated better on how to handle these things instead of just firing a gun.
17. 17 Bodie Dec 18th, 2008 at 8:42 pm

I have read some poor comments towards the police in regards to this incident …
Let me take you to the situation as all of you against the police live in a MOVIE world … where the good guy fights the bad guy off with a knife and all is well ..

1. these police are “working” earning a living … and have the right like all of us to “Go home” at the end of the shift … if you have your life put on the line, you should be able to use force !!!

2. imagine you go to work packing in a warehouse or whatever … and you have some one shove a knife in your face and wants to kill you … you defend yourself and kill the guy … you would think you are a hero ??? right

so back off the Police … they need the Govt to give them better tools, but what they have they used …
18. 18 Chenzo Dec 18th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

The little wanker deserved what he got,,if you had a cop pointin a gun at you telling you to drop it,,and you didnt,,he just acted like a dick and tried to be a f’wit tellin them to shoot him,,if you fuck around with the law you deserve what he got,,tuff shit,,get over it,,
19. 19 Lumpen Dec 18th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

Neither the Chinese or the Italians founded, or built, Australia.

There’s a whole bunch of houses in my suburb covered in pebblecrete that would beg to differ.

Yes, I masturbate a lot…I’m passionate, I’ve got a strong sex drive, I’m emotional…yet in this ghastly “new” “society” I, like all too many men, get continually rejected by females…and, well, there’s a whole lot worse things going on, that’s for sure!

This is a thread about a 15 y.o. getting killed by cops. Try and have a little bit of decorum, “even” “if” “you” “are” “obviously” “a” “bit” “cranky”.
20. 20 frederick heine Dec 19th, 2008 at 1:32 am

Jeff Simmons, you put a sparkle of hope for the human race into my heart. Not like some in this forum which do not even meet the standards of some mindless
psychopath.There are not even animals of any kind that have less emotions for each other or less brain.

Regarding more weapons to defend their miserable cowardly selves against a child… a pack of dogs attacking a little boy.

I’ve seen him, puny, lying in his coffin, and I wish it on those creeps that they will never have a peaceful sleep as long as they live, never forgetting that helpless little boy’s face, lying dead.

I suggest 25 years jail term for each of them and no more macho guns (fire-arms) hanging from their hips, back to the old stick the English cops get by with. Tasers up their ass every so often to put some sense into what barely can be called brains.
21. 21 SKOT Dec 19th, 2008 at 7:10 am

Here we go again, and I must say that I almost expected it…

A snide liberal says something, I respond, and then I’M taken to task for it!

It was Ruba who made a bizarre comment about anyone who is not completely down with handing over their country lock, stock and barrel as “masturbating all day” and “preaching hate”.

It’s up there, a few comments back, did you miss that “Dr” Cam and Lumpen?

So, yes, I respond.
What, did she expect an embarrassed, shaking 13 year old guy…”no, I don’t masturbate”?
Yes, I do, a lot.
I’m not going to deny it, in a society which pushes sex and sexiness at every turn, yet in which girls and women feel no qualms in spurning guys any chance they get…yet men are expected to “control themselves”.
Yes, I masturbate, and I bet you do to “Dr” Cam.

Now, I’ve put that in it’s place, and yes, Lumpen, this is about a 15 year old shot dead by the Police…if you want to take up the point about how masturbation might apply to all this, then please convey your enquires to Ruba.

Lumpen, the Chinese and Italians came to Australia, they didn’t build the country.
And that stuff about the pebblecrete?
So what?
It’s also amazing, how Italians in Italy have so much taste and style in regards their housing (and so much more), yet so many out here do it so…woggy.
Not all though, my uncle’s home is a model of sublime, rustic, natural style.

And good for you Jeff Simmons.
However, Australia can only take on a certain level of migration and multiracialism…we only have a small population to begin with.

Australia has little in common with the situation in Britain during the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s and 80’s…and very near to absolutely, 100%, nothing at all with America, ever.

Minorities, and some mixed marriages in Australia? …very good.

Minorities, and new arrivals, becoming the majority? …no good, at all…totally unacceptable.

This whole discussion came about because Tyler Cassidy was a “member” of the ‘Soldiers of the Southern Cross’, who I’m not sure I’m completely fond of either…if not, it would still be a question of why a young dude, who was undoubt[ed]ly causing trouble, was shot by 3 or 4 Police officers.
That shouldn’t happen, Police standards need to get back to what they once were.
The Police have a hard, demanding, job to do.
This has though, opened up a wider issue, of a grievance that is often silently held by many Australians.
As long as this is muted by the blind rhetoric of self appointed “politically correct” “authorities” then the pot will keep on boiling.

This all must be discussed properly.

SKOT
22. 22 ......... Dec 20th, 2008 at 9:17 am

Nothing good has come of this.
A mother has lost her son, his brother has lost his little brother and the police have gotten rid of someone they thought to be a threat.
Tyler was hurting and didn’t know how to cope, some understand that and some don’t.
As a kid losing a father, if you know what it’s like then you may understand, personally I do. Yes he did the wrong thing, but he’s a 15 year old boy who was broken.
Yes the police could have done it differently but they didn’t, they need to change the way the system works, give them more training.

The truth will come out, if this doesn’t open the police’s eyes to what’s going on, then what will?
23. 23 SKOT Dec 20th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

Hear hear…

There was so many ways that those Police officers could have diffused and ended this particular situation.

Many better methods are possible to disarm a person, particularly a 15 year old.
24. 24 Lumpen Dec 21st, 2008 at 8:20 pm

I’m not going to deny it, in a society which pushes sex and sexiness at every turn, yet in which girls and women feel no qualms in spurning guys any chance they get… yet men are expected to “control themselves”.

…aaand the creepiness continues and expands. Honestly SKOT, if that is how see your dilemma of not getting laid, your problems are deeper than attempting to pour bleach on the history of Australia.

PROTIP: Most people don’t discuss their masturbation habits at all, let alone in the context of a thread on the shooting of an obviously fucked-up kid and the tragedy that emanates from that. It’s obscene. Your inability to read Ruba’s comments as they were intended (it’s obvious to everyone else) are your own fault and your ongoing cretinous comments add nothing to the understanding of what happened. The only reason I’ve bothered to try and engage so far is because it seems obvious that you’ve never had anyone take you seriously enough to argue against you. Well, not anymore from me, you fucking cretin.
25. 25 SKOT Dec 22nd, 2008 at 9:28 am

No , “Lumpen”, not “creepiness”.

A sad, and completely unnecessary, ‘reality’ for all too many men today.

And, I can’t state it strongly enough…I am SO sick of hearing phrases like “creep”, “creepy”, “creepiness”, or the plethora of other insults dished out about men, and any expression of healthy male sexuality.
Of course, it’s all bend over backwards, shut up, kowtow, and be all “supportive” about someone choosing “homosexuality”, or if any girls get into being “lesbian”…that’s all “okay”.

A man ventures forth with discussion of real male sensuality and desire, shows real need, and expresses some real frustration…you know, takes a step out of being seen as merely a functional, utilitarian, almost robotic, pack animal…fit only for menial labour…and then all of a sudden he’s “creepy”.

Honestly, “Lumpen”…how does describing me, or any other man, as being “creepy” help…anything???

Now, I described EXACTLY why I wrote what I did, in response to the insensitive clap-trap that Ruba spat out…have you ignored that, again?

I want, and need, so much more than just “getting laid” ‘Lumpen’…much more.
And my problems with getting all that are exactly those I described…you’re actually ignorant/arrogant/stupid enough to try and deny that…to bleach that?

And, what the heck?
…”pour bleach on the history of Australia”?

I am bleaching nothing!

I am the ONLY one on here who has written truly, and comprehensively, about the history of Australia!

What are you trying to do…muddy it? …stain it red? …blacken it? …taint it?

Once again…I don’t shy away from an insult…it was Ruba who made her remarks.
And, no, I most definitely do not propose that people talk about masturbation habits so openly all the time, and particularly not in a thread such as this.
Again, take that up with Ruba.
And then, ask yourself why on one hand you’d probably be protesting in the streets to push something immoral, unnatural and sinful….but then you describe anything natural, and a real emotional concern…as “creepiness”.

Tyler Cassidy was “f**ked up”…and he was “f**ked up” by circumstances and situations…don’t blame the victim…don’t blame the symptom for the cause.

And nothing I’ve written about is my fault…and nothing I’ve written is “cretinous”, at all.
Regardless of what you “all” “obviously” think that Ruba’s comments were meant to mean…they were STILL an offhand, ill mannered, glib insult.
People think they can hand out those kind of barbs, and not get anything in return…well, not this time.
I’m not the cretin, you are…and there’s no need to start swearing either.

I’m not arguing anything…none of you have a viable “argument” to put forward in “defence” of your cretinous, continually anti, ‘liberal’, troublemaking stance.
This is not an “argument”…this is right against wrong.
And that’s always serious.
26. 26 @ndy Dec 22nd, 2008 at 2:00 pm

I may be wrong, but I think Ruba touched on a sore point.
27. 27 SKOT Dec 22nd, 2008 at 5:44 pm

A…very…’sore point’.

And, I’m always staggered how people think they can say one thing, and think it will go unnoticed…make a brash statement, and expect it to go without retort.

I’m sure you’re all familiar with the theory of the ‘domino effect’…well, here it is in process.
Everything that gets said, is part of what gets said.
And one thing always relates to another.

I know that all of you, fresh out of a sociology class, and bursting with some contrite insults on the side…can’t wait to set up your ‘card table’, and start handing out ball park level socio-political slogans, laced with some profanity/insults, in order to mimic your firebrand idols.
Ruba imagines that being female, and having an ‘exotic’ Creole sounding name will get her out of everything?

And, so you’ve got to expect an answer from someone who shows up to your metaphorical sidewalk card-table/soap-box.

And sometimes that someone has the faculties with which to link this all together.

There are MANY social, human, issues today…and they all link.
The collapse of this society is being signposted on many levels.

There are a lot of sore points…and they all add up to big wounds…to one sorely injured, and sickly patient.
28. 28 @ndy Dec 22nd, 2008 at 5:50 pm

Perhaps you should see a doctor?
29. 29 Dr. Cam Dec 22nd, 2008 at 6:47 pm

I prescribe one (1) Cornetto, followed by some serious hardening the fuck up. You creepy, creepy creep.
30. 30 @ndy Dec 22nd, 2008 at 6:51 pm

31. 31 Lumpen Dec 22nd, 2008 at 10:59 pm

I’m not the cretin, you are…and there’s no need to start swearing either.

Oh fine. In the spirit of hilarity and hypocrisy, I see @ndy’s Ronnie Johns sketch and raise him this:

Dedicated to all the creepy permavirgins out there who can’t understand why women don’t exist to serve their needs, and are bewildered as to why their predicament doesn’t rate on the same level as the death of a 15 year old.

To steer things back on topic, there were still letters to the editor regarding Tyler in today’s MX (supporting the police in response to a letter advocating shoot-to-wound strategies). Other than that, it looks like the death is out of the news cycle.
32. 32 @ndy Dec 22nd, 2008 at 11:03 pm

http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/?p=1547