Sometime ago I posted a thread here about an amazing health product I discovered along with a totally free business opportunity that goes along with it. Absolute total outlay per month is about $31, which is for the product itself and includes S&H. There is no start-up costs and nothing else required...you get an immediate, free website which is the same as mine.

Besides from the incredible value of the product itself, you have an opportunity for unlimited monthly income just by sharing this with friends, family and others. If my brother and sister-in-law were alive today, they could testify that I have wasted plenty of money and time trying to find a legitimate way to supplement my income (and one day become wealthy!). I have learned the hard way, from bad experiences, what is real and what is bullshit.

It's 2009: if you're serious about making a difference in your life and those you care about, please just take some time to check out my website (http://www.GBG10vita.com and watch the videos (especially about the compensation plan), and then rewatch the videos about the three ways you get paid. You don't need to leave any personal information. Please just imagine what you could do with this chance, and THINK BIG!

As I said in my original post, I don't care about the nigs, muds and jews that are making money with this. If they are doing it and I don't get my share, shame on me.

Thank you, and Happy New Year to all!

I wish you luck with this.
I tried MLM and worked my arse off for five years to build an Amway business.
Amway is a good company and the business concept is great on paper.
Problem is, you have to go out and find other people who also want more than 45 years of struggling in a job (Just Over Broke) followed by 20 years or so of poverty in retirement. That is the glitch that brings all forms of MLM unstuck.
Most people are financially illiterate and lazy. Their idea of financial advice is talking with their minimum-wage neighbour over the back fence; and their idea of financial planning is their weekly lottery ticket.
At least 95 per cent of people are thumbsucking losers who deserve the misery and poverty in which they find themselves.
That is the fatal flaw in the MLM concept. No matter how much you are motivated, you have to find a big group of people who also have a 'dream' and are prepared to do what is necessary to realise it.
On a positive note, if you analyse statistics on plans shown v numbers sponsored; of whom actually do something; and retention you will discover that Americans are the best networkers in the world.
To achieve a given result in my sorry little part of the world one has to show approximately six times more plans than would be required to get the same result in the USA.
Australians are at least as lazy as Americans, but they are much more cynical and suspicious of everything, especially when someone offers to help them get rich.
These days I invest in residential property that fits a specific formula. It is a 20-year programme, but at least I know it will happen because my success does not depend upon anyone else having a dream and getting of their lazy arse to make it come true.
If I was in the USA at this time, I would be carpet bagging as many residential properties as I could (provided that they fitted the profile), once the prices went down even further (and they will).
After the crash is over, you will be sitting pretty.
Pay $1 million now for a portfolio of self-funding assets that will double in value during the next 10 years. That is what I call achieving financial freedom.

I wish you luck with this.
I tried MLM and worked my arse off for five years to build an Amway business.
Amway is a good company and the business concept is great on paper.
Problem is, you have to go out and find other people who also want more than 45 years of struggling in a job (Just Over Broke) followed by 20 years or so of poverty in retirement.
Most people are financially illiterate and lazy. Their idea of financial advice is talking with their minimum-wage neighbour over the back fence; and their idea of financial planning is their weekly lottery ticket.
At least 95 per cent of people are thumbsucking losers who deserve the misery and poverty in which they find themselves.
That is the fatal flaw in the MLM concept. No matter how much you are motivated, you have to find a big group of people who also have a 'dream' and are prepared to do what is necessary to realise it.
On a positive note, if you analyse statistics on plans shown v numbers sponsored; of whom actually do something; and retention you will discover that Americans are the best networkers in the world.
To achieve a given result in my sorry little part of the world one has to show approximately six times more plans than would be required to get the same result in the USA.
These days I invest in residential property that fits a specific formula. It is a 20-year programme, but at least I know it will happen because my success does not depend upon anyone else having a dream and getting of their lazy arse to make it come true.
If I was in the USA at this time, I would be carpet bagging as many residential properties as I could (provided that they fitted the profile), once the prices go down even further (and they will).
After the crash is over, you will be sitting pretty.
Pay $1 million now for a portfolio of self-funding assets that will double in value during the next 10 years. That is what I call achieving financial freedom.

what's the profile/formula?

I wish you luck with this.
I tried MLM and worked my arse off for five years to build an Amway business.
Amway is a good company and the business concept is great on paper.
Problem is, you have to go out and find other people who also want more than 45 years of struggling in a job (Just Over Broke) followed by 20 years or so of poverty in retirement. That is the glitch that brings all forms of MLM unstuck.
Most people are financially illiterate and lazy. Their idea of financial advice is talking with their minimum-wage neighbour over the back fence; and their idea of financial planning is their weekly lottery ticket.
At least 95 per cent of people are thumbsucking losers who deserve the misery and poverty in which they find themselves.


Thank you for your wishes and observations on thumbsucking losers.

Amway sucks, and so do similar MLM businesses (I tried that Quixtar crap years ago, among many others). I would classify GBG as more of a unilevel marketing business, and there is definitely none of the complexity and bullshit in the pay plan as with Amway and others. It's not just the Amway/MLM-type of home business that I've tried....I've tried practically everything. Let my hard knocks be the voice of experience for you, and take my words as truth. The company founders made this a free business with a product that is useful, affordable and recession-proof so that people will not drop out (there will be dropouts, but those under them are not lost, they "compress up"). Also, the company founders get paid the same way as everyone else...everyone has an equal chance and gets paid the same, no matter when you join or how much you buy. One other thing: when I joined GBG, I Googled "GBG scam" and similar phrases...found none, and I doubt if you will.

As stated in my initial post on this thread, I have wasted lots of time and money in search of the real deal. By that I mean years and years, and lots and lots of money. But I have a drive in me that just will not let me give up on my search for a way to make enough money to live life as fully as I want to and do the things I want to. I believe GBG will give me that opportunity better than anything else out there (that I can afford), and I also feel that even if some that are reading this have no use for it, perhaps someone in your life would truly thank you for this information. I should also add that over the years I have spent THOUSANDS of dollars on vitamins, minerals and supplements, and I have never seen anything that compares to this in value. The company founders did this so that people won't just give up on the receiving the product each month because it is such a remarkable value and so affordable (this helps retention also). I really enjoy having the bottle shipped to me automatically each month (no running out and no running out to stores to give my money to a corporation).

Many in the GBG organization say to give it one or two years and really work hard at it and then take a look at what you have achieved. I intend to do that without quitting. I was just listening to one of the recorded phone calls from last month. One guy got into this in 2006 and he now has 14,800 people on his team/downline alone--through sheer determination and hard work. There is nothing special about him; anyone could do the same.

As I said before: THINK BIG! I don't have my brother here with me anymore, but I would love to someday soon have a lifestyle that affords me more free time to spend with my mother while she's still active and with me. I WANT A HOME RIGHT ON THE WATER (LOL)!!

Best wishes to you all in 2009.

I wish you luck with this.
I tried MLM and worked my arse off for five years to build an Amway business.
Amway is a good company and the business concept is great on paper.
SCAmway no longer exists, at least in the US. They ran out of suckers willing to waste their time and money with them. So the SCAmway owners dissolved it and opened QUIXTAR. Same exact pyramid scheme, but with a different name. All MLM is a scam. Period. No one ever makes money. Period. The testimonials are fraudulent or are given by those at the top who make money by selling the gullibles things like motivational tapes. No one ever makes money with "the Plan."

SCAmway no longer exists, at least in the US. They ran out of suckers willing to waste their time and money with them. So the SCAmway owners dissolved it and opened QUIXTAR. Same exact pyramid scheme, but with a different name. All MLM is a scam. Period. No one ever makes money. Period. The testimonials are fraudulent or are given by those at the top who make money by selling the gullibles things like motivational tapes. No one ever makes money with "the Plan."


I've been seeing a lot of Amway commercials on cable TV these past couple of weeks, so they must still be around in some form.

GBG is not a MLM scam and it was designed so that not only those at the top make money--everyone gets paid the same. No motivational tapes are sold, and the company founders are on the live phone calls (three different ones) each week.

Aside from the opportunity for making money, the product itself can't be beat anywhere, especially at the price.

I've been seeing a lot of Amway commercials on cable TV these past couple of weeks, so they must still be around in some form.

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Aside from the opportunity for making money, the product itself can't be beat anywhere, especially at the price.

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I've been seeing a lot of Amway commercials on cable TV these past couple of weeks, so they must still be around in some form.

GBG is not a MLM scam and it was designed so that not only those at the top make money--everyone gets paid the same. No motivational tapes are sold, and the company founders are on the live phone calls (three different ones) each week.

Aside from the opportunity for making money, the product itself can't be beat anywhere, especially at the price.Yep, you're right. Amway is back again, big time it seems. Adding the old name in with Quixtar.

All MLM operations are pyramid scams. This GLB vitamin juice (and a couple of other MLMs that seem to be selling the same type of product) reminds me of snake oil salesmen peddling their tonic in the old west. But, if I'm wrong - I'm wrong. I hope you make a fortune.

what's the profile/formula?

Doubt that the formula would work for you, because the USA has different tax laws.
I would recommend reading a book called Rich dad, poor dad, which is by a self-made property millionaire who explains how to do it successfully in the USA.
Since you asked, the formula I use (put simply and briefly with a lot of important detail omitted) is this.
1. Buy only new. In Australia new property receives twice the tax benefits as compared with used property.
Buying new also allows you to build in rapid and significant capital growth, if you follow the rules. Buy in the first or second stage of a large master-planned development. For example, if you might buy a vacant block of land in stage one for $200,000 and then build a house on it. Five years later in stage five, a block of land of the same size is selling for $400,000. What is your block of land worth then?
2. Land selection is important. No corner blocks, no blocks that will have a drainage or runoff problem, no blocks on main roads or anything that is likely to become a main road.
3. Build a house that is of a design that has a proven history of appeal to tenants. Pack it full of features, such as remote garage door openers, attractive but low-maintenance landscaping and gardens, central air conditioning (rare here in Australia), a well-insulated ceiling to block out as much heat as possible and make the air conditioning as efficient as possible. Do not under any circumstances put in a swimming pool. They are a nightmare to maintain and tenants will generally not do it. Always be mindful that $100 spent outside the house adds only $10 to the value of the property.
4. Do not furnish the house or put in major appliances such as dishwashers or refrigerators. You want tenants who have their own. They are more stable and less likely to move, if only because moving refrigerators is hard work.:D
5. Choose a colour scheme that is neutral (white walls and ceiling). Tile the floors with light-coloured tiles. If you do use carpet anywhere, restrict it to the bedrooms. Choose a design that has nine-foot ceilings and lots of window space. The light will bounce of the light tiles, go up to the high white ceilings and make the house look enormous in the perception of potential tenants. Nine-foot ceilings can be achieved by another two rows of brick and in most designs adds about $4,000 to the cost of the building. No structural changes are required for this. If you go over nine foot, things such as windows and doors will require major strengthening to cope with the additional weight and that will cost a lot of money.
6. Use the services of a professional property manager. Do not under any circumstances try to manage the property yourself, or have any contact with the tenant. One of the ways to look for a good property manager is find one whose business consists of 100 per cent property management. Do not use a real estate agent who has property management as an add-on to their business. The best managers are generally old dragons whose stare can freeze your heart.
7. As well as general insurance on the property, ensure that you have landlord's insurance to protect you against tenants doing a runner and/or damaging the property.
8. Your ideal tenant is a white family that will sign a two-year lease. No non-whites under any circumstances. Ensure that your property manager understands this.
9. Be fine with pets, provided that there is an understanding that you expect the pet to crap outside.:o Eighty per cent of families have pets and 60 per cent of tenants overall (Australian figures) have pets. Imposing a no-pets condition rules out most potential tenants and most families. Families with children are your best tenants because they do not have wild parties and tend to not move unless they absolutely have to, generally for a work-related reason. Families that have children = pets. Live with it. I have never had a problem with the pets of any of my tenants, ever.
10. Never sell. Ever. Here in Australia property doubles in value roughly every seven years. This means that if you sit on a property for seven years it should, on average, be worth twice what you paid for it. Properties become self funding here about the five-year mark. This means that the rent increases with the CPI to equal or exceed the cost of debt service, rates (I think that you call them land taxes), insurance, maintenance and management. If your tax affairs have been structured correctly, someone here on an income of $60,000 can buy a $400,000 house and land and after rent and a weekly tax deduction/adjustment, it should cost no more than $30 per week for the first five years. After that, it should cost nothing. As the amount of top up you have to make to debt service decreases and the increasing value of the property increases, you use this increased equity and financial capacity to get another property. During a 20-year programme you should be able to do this at least six times.
11. Use only interest-only loans to finance this exercise. You cannot make meaningful principle reduction during the first decade or so of the loan and principle payments will reduce your capacity to get subsequent properties. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise has no idea what they are talking about. This would include most bankers.