We must NEVER FORGET!

How Christians Brought Brotherly Love To The Pagans


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Above: The sword and the cross: Charlemagne, a bloodthirsty Christian evangelist. The Frankish king was directly responsible for the forced and violent introduction of Christianity to much of Western Europe. This he achieved by killing all the pagans who did not want to convert to Christianity.

"To seek to subjugate the will of others and take the soul captive,
because it is the exercise of the highest power, seems to be the
highest object of human ambition. It is at the bottom of all
proselyting and propagandism, from that of Mesmer to that of
the Church of Rome and the French Republic.
That was the apostolate alike of Joshua and of Mahomet."

Albert Pike - Morals and Dogma, III .: The Master

Karl the Saxon Butcher - CHARLEMAGNE

"After having all 4,500 Saxons beheaded "the king went into winter camp, and there celebrated mass as usual."

To destroy German paganism, Charlemagne proclaimed harsh laws applicable to those Germans under his control who refused to be baptized into Christianity. Eating meat during Lent, cremating the dead and pretending to be baptized were all made punishable by death.

In 768, Charlemagne started a 32 year long campaign of what can only be described as genocidal evangelism against the Saxons under his control in western Germany. The campaign started with the cutting down of the Saxon's most sacred tree, their version of the World Tree or Yggdrasil, (the symbol of the start of the earth and the source of all life in the ancient Indo-European religions) located in a sacred Saxon forest near present day Marburg.

Charlemagne quickly turned to violence as a means of spreading the Christian word. In 772, at Quierzy, he issued a proclamation that he would kill every Saxon who refused to accept Jesus Christ, and from that time on he kept a special detachment of Christian priests who doubled as executioners, and in every Saxon village in which they stopped, these priests would execute anybody who refused to be baptized.

Then in 782, at Verden, Charlemagne carried out the act for which he is most notoriously associated - he ordered the beheading of 4,500 Saxons in one day who had made the error of being caught practicing paganism after they had agreed to be Christians.

Charlemagne's constant companion and biographer, the monk Einhard, vividly captured the event in his biography of the Frankish king. In it is written that the King rounded up 4,500 Saxons who "like dogs that return to their vomit" had returned to the pagan religions they had been forced to give up upon pain of death.After having all 4,500 Saxons beheaded "the king went into winter camp, and there celebrated mass as usual.

"Twelve years later, in 794, Charlemagne introduced a law under which every third Saxon living in any pagan area was kidnapped and forced to resettle and be raised amongst Christian Franks.
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He was six feet four inches tall, and built to scale.
He had blond hair, animated eyes, a powerful nose ... a
presence "always stately and dignified." He was temperate
in eating and drinking, abominated drunkenness, and kept
in good health despite every exposure and hardship.
—Eginhard (the King's secretary) describing Charlemagne

Charlemagne
(French for Carolus Magnus, or Carlus Magnus ("Charles the Great"); German Karl der Grosse).

The name given by later generations to Charles, King of the Franks, first sovereign of the Christian Empire of the West; born 2 April, 742;

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Here is a map of Charlemagne's kingdom. The light-green shows his kingdom holdings after his brother's death in 771. The dark-green shows his kingdom holdings in 800. His advances (as described above) can be seen here.

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Chapter 17. Christianity - By Stealth and Steel
- The Jewish origins of Christianity; Spread of
Christianity into Roman Empire and Europe
http://www.white-history.com/

Many other links here:
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I hope so. Only Hitler managed to dilute Christianity enough to make it less insane.

I hope so. Only Hitler managed to dilute Christianity enough to make it less insane.

It was already diluted and adulterated beyond recognition. Maybe what Herr Hitler did was re-refine it.

I don't agree. Its basic thesis remained intact but Hitler, taking a cue from Schopenhauer, corrected certain beliefs through deeds in practice.

Maybe what Herr Hitler did was re-refine it.


Adolf Hitler always declared of National Socialism that "it is even more than a religion; it is the will to make mankind anew.

National Socialism is essentially a religious movement and faith. The Germanic or Aryan world of ideas, both political and religious, will go out as a sacred Gospel to heal mankind.

National Socialism's... one ambition must be scientifically to construct a doctrine that is nothing more than a homage to reason.

Our duty is to teach men to see whatever is lovely and truly wonderful in life, and not to become prematurely ill tempered and spiteful. We wish fully to enjoy what is beautiful, to cling to it — and to avoid, as far as possible, anything that might do harm to people like ourselves."

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(German Faith Movement)

Three years after Adolf Hitler assumed the
seat of power in Germany:

In 1936 the National Reich Church was
established, and in it only national orators
of the Reich were allowed to speak:

Reich Church Bishop Ludwig Müller:

· The National Reich Church demands an
immediate stop to the printing and sale
of the Bible in Germany.

· The National Reich Church will remove
from the altars of all churches the Bible,
the cross, and religious objects.

· Mercy is an un German conception. The
word mercy is one of the numerous terms of
the bible with which we can have nothing to do.

· On the altars there must be nothing but
My Struggle (Mein Kampf), and to the left
of this a sword.
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The German Religion
Deutsche Glaubensbewegung
(German Faith Movement)

Above: The sword and the cross: Charlemagne, a bloodthirsty Christian evangelist. The Frankish king was directly responsible for the forced and violent introduction of Christianity to much of Western Europe. This he achieved by killing all the pagans who did not want to convert to Christianity.

This is, of course, a lie. Charlemagne did not slaughter the Saxons because they were pagans, heathens is actually the appropriate word. Charlemagne slaughtered the Saxon rebels in frustration because they rebelled OVER and OVER and OVER again against the Carolingian Empire. Charlemagne's first campaign against the Saxons began because the Saxons attacked the Carolingian Empire and sacked several cities and churches along its frontier. After putting them down the first time, destroying their shrine Irminsul in revenge, the Saxons ravaged numermous churches in Hesse while Charlemagne was away in Italy campaigning against the Lombards. After Charlemagne crossed the Wesser in 775 and defeated them a second time they gave hostages and swore oaths of loyalty to the Frankish Empire. When Charlemagne was campaigning yet again against the Lombards in 776, the Saxons rebelled in southern Saxony and violated their oath of fealty. Charlemagne once again left Italy and crossed the Alps to defeat them in Saxony for the third time. On this occassion, as a result of their defeat, they swore they would become Christians are recognize the authority of Charlemagne and the Franks. As a promise of their subjugation they pledged their fatherland to Charlemagne.

This formulation was used in the royal annals composed at Charlemagne's court and discloses the following intent: if the Saxons kept their oaths of loyalty, they would remain subordinate to the Franks. If they did not keep their oaths, then the Franks would have the right to enter the Saxon lands and treat them as traitors.

Matthias Becher, Karl der Grosse (Munich, 1999), p.63

The Franks then established a stronghold in Saxony known as Karlsburg. Believing that the Saxons were finally subjegated, Charlemagne left yet again to campaign against the Moors in Spain. The Saxons took advantage of Charlemagne's absence yet again to rebel and destroy Karlsburg, sacking several churches, plundering the entire right bank of the Rhine up to Koblenz this time. It was this rebellion which infuriated Charlemagne and prompted his next campaign against the Saxons. After being defeated at Bocholt, the Eastphalians swore loyalty to Charlemagne and surrendered unconditionally. Finally believing the Saxons were subordinated for good, Charlemagne even appointed several Saxon nobles as counts in 782. Not long after this the Slavs began attacking the Saxons and Thuringians in the East. Charlemagne next sent a mixed Frankish-Saxon force to deal with the Slavs. At this point, the Saxons rebelled yet again and with the Slavs slaughtered the Frankish army sent to defend the Saxons. Charlemagne's own marshal and chamberlain were killed this time by the Saxons. When Charlemagne himself marched East with his own army to deal with the situation the Saxons surrendered yet again and handed over the rebels. These were the individuals that were slaughtered, not because they were pagans, but because they were traitors. The number "4,500" also comes from the Carolingian royal annals which were grossly exaggerated. In the aftermath of this, Charlemagne issued the Capitulatio de partibus Saxonie which prescribed the death penalty for refusing baptism, destroying churches, violating the loyalty oath, and plotting against Christians. The death penalty also applied to cannibalism and human sacrifice which was being practiced by the Saxons. The Saxons rebelled several mores over the next decade and were punished as traitors for it.

Charlemagne issued the Capitulatio

de partibus Saxonie which prescribed

the death penalty for refusing baptism...

...............Really ?..... Damn !!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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. . .which was a punishment for TREASON.

Treason! OH! To YHVH no doubt!

Makes for a good Horror Flick!

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The Dark Age: Christianity Rules
Faith Secured: The Inquisition
Faith Enforced: The Era of Reformation
Faith in Action: The Conversion of Native Americans
The Messianic Faith: Christians in the Nazi Era (very questionable chapter - exhibits definite 'fear of the jews')

The inquisitor (left) interrogates a suspect under torture. One favorite method was binding the victim's hands on the back and then hanging him on a rope tied to his hands. This process pulled the arms out of the shoulder joints, which caused terrible pain (and often disabled the suspect for life, even when he was acquitted later).
Nineteenth century drawing [RI]

The Inquisition was first founded in 1232, a tribunal dealing with thought crimes and equipped with its own "police," to search and destroy the last surviving heretics after about a million Albigensians in Southern France had been butchered in the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians. In the Bull "Ad extirpanda" (i.e. "To be exterminated") Pope Innocent IV had decreed 1252 that secular rulers must arrest and execute all non-Catholic Christians. The Inquisition tribunals were to dominate the history of Europe and its colonies until the early modern period, after the extermination of heresy concentrating mainly on witches; and the Spanish Inquisition raged until the middle of the nineteenth century, only to be revived under the fanatical Christian dictator Franco in the 20th century.

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I don't give a damn about the Indians that died in the New World or the Moors and Jews who were slaughtered by the Inquisition. Do you?

I don't give a damn about the Indians that died in the New World or the Moors and Jews who were slaughtered by the Inquisition. Do you?
Damn, getting down to having to set up "strawmen" now are you? HaHa!


Charlemagne issued the Capitulatio

de partibus Saxonie which prescribed

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Damn, getting down to having to set up "strawmen" now are you? HaHa!

A straw man cannot be a question. You knew that right?

A straw man cannot be a question.
You knew that right?
Oh My, your Pilpulism is showing.

I don't give a damn about the Indians that died in the New World
or the Moors and Jews who were slaughtered by the Inquisition.

Do you?
First you set up the "strawman" with your statment.
Then you invite me to dance with your question.

Sorry but my dance card is full.

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Oh My, your Pilpulism is showing. First you set up the "strawman" with your statment. Then you invite me to dance with your question. Sorry but my dance card is full.

My statement, of MY OWN POSITION (emphasis added), is not a strawman, nor is my question, for a question CANNOT (emphasis added) be a strawman. Know a thing or two about logic before you have the audacity to lecture others on the subject.

My statement, of MY OWN POSITION (emphasis
added), is not a strawman, nor is my question, for a question CANNOT
(emphasis added) be a strawman. Know a thing or two about logic before
you have the audacity to lecture others on the subject.
Thanks for the invitation but I think I'll not to get off topic here:


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I don't see your point. The vast majority of the Wicca idiots and atheists I have come across are just as much, if not even more anti-racist than most white Christians. You never answered my question either. Do you give a damn about the Indians who were killed during the conquest of the New World?

Any white nationalist who follows a Jewish God... is confused. That's the essence of "Nietzsche Contra Wagner," an interesting debate on this topic.

these jesus freaks killed so many Aryans and got away with it.

Any white nationalist who follows a Jewish God... is confused. That's the essence of "Nietzsche Contra Wagner," an interesting debate on this topic.

Any White Nationalist that can READ engages in literacy, which arose amongst Semites. Nice logic, Craig Smith.

these jesus freaks killed so many Aryans and got away with it.

Adolf Hitler killed more Europeans in a decade than Christians ever did in the entire history of Christianity in Europe.

I'm certain there were plenty of Christians in Dresden. Not to mention the possible 10 million starved after the war.

Criticizing Charlemagne for vanquishing his tribal enemies is very Christian and tolerant of you fellows. Excuse me if I find these sentiments ironic. I say Karolus Magnus and his daddy Charles the Hammer and Constantine before them were Great White Warlords like Napoleon and Hitler. Mind you I very much dislike Napoleon but we have a type here. A type that we should hope-- and pray-- will Come Back like the Madhi, and be the Lightening and the Sun all at once, the Man above time and in Time, and sweep aside the present evils with fire and sword and re-establish a new Golden age on Earth.

As for Wagner being confused in his Christianity, far from it. You go see Parsifal Craig and then come back and tell me Wagner was wrong. Ever seen Parsifal? Ever seen any Wagner Mr Nazi.org?

No. Our Christianity is a synthesis of universal spiritual ideas and our own particular racial spirit.

FadeTheButcher is your pic of Noah Wylie who plays 'Dr. Carter' on ER? It looks like him to me.

It is so typically hollywood that they use a jewish actor to play a WASP doctor! (Don't let his sister's conversion fool you. It is in one of his quotes that he considers himself jewish. Read it there:)

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killed more Aryans then any other concept.

This argument is mute. The same Saxons; after Charlemagne smashed their idol irminsul; converted and became the Christian defenders of England against the antiChrist, heathen Danes. Are the Saxons only defended as victims of Christians and not as Christian aggresors against wotanism? The majority of Germanics willingly converted and I make no apologies for our Christian kindred who spread the Gospel through Europe with the Sword of Truth. Heathenism has traditionally made resurgences when the amount and influence of jews has increased in their infestation of Christian lands as is evident in the occidental world today rule by Zionism and its progeny; the bastardized occultic, heathen ideologies that corrupt our folk. As Christians we hail Hakon, Harald Bluetooth, Alstem. Rollo, Olaf Tryggvesson, Æthelberht, Cnut , Alfred, Redwald, Offa, Charlemagne, Egbert, Ethelwulf. Ethelbald, Ethelbert,Ethelred,Ethelred(the Unready),Edward(the Elder) Edward(the Martyr), Edward(the Confessor),Athelstan,Edmund,Edmund(Ironside), Edred, Edwny,Edgar,etc etc etc ... among others and all Germanic aristocrats since; that have rejected judaism in the form of wotanism and all those great backsliding Adamites, who joined into the Body of their Redeemer the Master Anointed hearing the call of their DNA to submit to the will of the Creator of our folk.

Sacrifices to Woden are mentioned by Tacitus (Germ. 9) who states that "they consider it right to sacrifice even human victims to Mercurious on certain fixed days." According to Jonas of Bobbio (Mabillon, Acta sanctorum ord. Bened. II. p. 26) Columbanus (about A.D. 620) found a party of Sueui engaged in "sacrifice" to Wodan. They were sitting round a large vessel full of beer; but the nature of the ceremony is not described. According to Ethelwerd sacrifices were offered by the English to Woden (see above).
The custom of devoting a hostile army to Woden (cf. p. 7) was also known to the continental Germans. The clearest case occurs in Tacitus' description of the war between the Chatti and the Hermunduri (Ann. XIII. 57):--"The war turned out successfully for the Hermunduri, while for the Chatti it was all the more disastrous, because in the event of victory they (i.e. bot sides) had dedicated their opponents' army to Mars and Mercurius. By this vow both horses and men, in short everything on the side of the conquered is given up to destruction. And so the threats of our enemies recoiled upon themselves." Another example of the total destruction of an army, which may very well have been due to a vow of this kind, is supplied by Tacitus' account of the scene of Varus' disaster (Ann. I. 61). It seems likely also that the English invaders of Britain practiced a similar rite, if one may judge from certain entries in the Saxon Chronicle, especially the entry under the 491:--"Ælle and Cissa besieged Anderida and slaughtered all who dwelt therein; there was not a single Briton left there." It has been mentioned above (p. 7) that amongst the Scandinavians this dedication was symbolized by the casting of a javelin over the enemy's army. Some such idea may have been in the mind of Coifi, the chief priest of the Northumbrians, who according to Bede (H. E. II. 13), as soon as he had given his vote for the change of faith, hurled a spear into the heathen temple. A very early example of the total destruction of a vanquished army in obedience to a vow of this kind is given by Orosius v. 16. After narrating the defeat of Caepio and Mallius by the Cimbri (B.C. 105) he proceeds:--"The enemy captured both camps and acquired an immense quantity of booty. They proceeded to destroy everything which they had captured in accordance with a novel and unusual vow. The clothing was torn to shreds and cast away; the gold and silver was thrown into the river; the corslets of the men were cut to pieces; the trappings of the horses were broken up; the horses themselves were drowned in the waters; the men were hanged on trees, with nooses round their necks. No booty was allowed to the conqueror and no pity to the conquered." It is true that the nationality of the Cimbri and Teutons has not yet been satisfactorily ascertained. On the whole the evidence is perhaps somewhat against the supposition that these tribes were Germanic. Yet there is no doubt that they had lived in the closest proximity to Germanic tribes, and consequently they may have shared their religious beliefs and usages. The practice of destroying even the inanimate property of a vanquished enemy was known among the Germans of the North at a much later time, probably as late as the fourth century. This is shown by the immense quantities of weapons and other articles, which have been found deposited in the bogs of Thorsbjærg and Nydam (in Slesvig and South Jutlan).
A most singular custom is attributed by Procopius (Gothis War II. 14) to the Eruli, a tribe which it has hitherto proved impossible to identify with certainty with any of the Germanic nations known in later times. Procopius states simply that they lived formerly beyond the Danube, but his acquaintance with the geography of northern Europe was apparently not extensive. The Eruli are first mentioned in the third century, at which time they appear almost simultaneously on the Black Sea and on the frontier of Gaul. On the whole it seems most probable that their original home was on the southern shores of the Baltic. However this may be, it is quite clear that they were a Germanic tribe and still heathen when part of them were admitted into the Roman empire by Anastasius (A.D. 512). They seem to have been the only important Germanic tribe known to Procopius which had preserved their heathendom till within living memory; for the Goths, Vandals, Gepedes, and Langobardi had long been Christian, and even the Franks were nominally converted before the end of the fifth century, though according to Procopius (G. W. II. 25) they still continued to practice human sacrifices. There seems to be no adequate reason for doubting that the cult of Woden was known to the Eruli. It was certainly practiced by all the tribes whose territories lay along the Elbe, the Saxons, Langobardi and Hermunduri; probably also by the Goths whose original home lay far to the East. Procopius simply states that the Eruli worshiped a great number of gods, whom they deemed it right to appease with human sacrifices. There is however some evidence of a different kind (cf. p. 39 f.), which would seem to show that the Eruli had preserved one feature of the cult in a singularly pure form. Procopius' statement about the customs of the Eruli is as follow:--"They had many laws which differed from those of the rest of mankind; for when they became aged or sick they were not allowed to live. As soon as one of them was overtaken by old age or disease it became incumbent on him to request his relatives to put him out of the way as quickly as possible. The relatives made a great pile of logs, reaching to a considerable height, and setting the man on the top they sent up one of the Eruli against him with a dagger. This man had to be chosen from another family, for it was not lawful that the executioner should be related to the victim. And when the man who had been chosen to slay their kinsman had returned, they proceeded forthwith to set all the logs on fire, beginning at the extremities of the pile. When the fire had died out they collected the bones and buried them without delay in the ground."

The more I learn about the Christian conversion of Northern Europe the more I am sickened.

Allow me to interject long enough to say this is one of the most outstanding threads in the history of VNNF. And before I give you a pat on the back for your research Jarl could you provide a proof link where Karl the butcher slaughtered all those pagans? Do you have a verifiable one? This is great stuff. All those cowardly pagans running from the sword of the noble Christians. I just want to say this is a great thread and thank you to all those that did the research.

Do you have more research? I have some on Christians slaughtering Jews but this is great also. I hope this thread goes on and on, like the catholic crimes against the white race thread.

Keep up the good work.


Here is a big VNNF pat on the back for all of your efforts.
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BTW you all don’t mind if I use some of this information in my next Sunday’s lesson do you? I am sure my congregation will love it. That is why I need some more proof links.

This is great stuff. All those cowardly pagans running from the sword of the noble Christians.

Expert propagandists made those stories up just for you.

Remember, It Started In Babylon. That's when the Tribe made up stories about "Pharoahs" and "Plagues" and "Miracles" that were so shamelessly idiotic people believe them today. Amazing.

Unfortunately the sleeper called Western Man is waking again. So laugh now before he's fully roused -- the slumber of centuries will have wetted his appetite for the blood of traitors and scoundrels.

Present company excluded, of course. :)

Adolf Hitler killed more Europeans in a decade than Christians ever did in the entire history of Christianity in Europe.

Wrong!
First, Hitler was trying to save Europe from the clutches of international Jewry.
Second, according to Seventh Day Adventist scholars (who have put a lot of effort into the project) the Catholic Church is directly responsible for the deaths of about 100 million people, most of whom were Europeans.
Christinsanity is an alien evil Jewish creed that was intended to enslave the gentiles.
It worked!
I am a proud pagan who will resist unto death any attempt to force the worship of a Jewish god on to me.
Hail Wodan!

It seems the whites in Europe were slaughtering the hell out of each other long before the Christians or the Jews got there.

The Romans demanded tribute from most Tribes in germany and france before and during the Great Migrations. The franks probably were tolled and tithed to death during their long trek across southern europe, germany and finally into france by roman protectorates and land owners. They hated all after that. probably why the fraench are collectivly the way they are. At any rate I believe these tithes cintinued accross europe to be collected roman style (oxen, cattle, women, children) by the morovingian bros.& Christ LLC
some written pagan documentation on the attemp to convert a northern germanic tribe survived;
The Frisii, (curly) hair, a large tribe (staemme) in northern germany were paying roman tribute before this, and now to pay up and accept a new god..one god from who? the powerful romanized vagabond FRANKS who with their sparkely byzyntine schmuck and money from rome that built a replacement army...they shipped two missionarys to Frisia to cut down their local ancient oak, which they did while the folks expected them to get struck by lightning. they did not. so when, the whole town, men women and kids, all lined up in front of a large mud puddle to trapse through to be baptised, the first to be baptised was Rotbart, the chieftan or king of his Staemme...the king about to lay his foot into the dirty water looked up at the priests and asked " if I am to be in your heaven with you and your god, where with be my father, fallen brothers in battle, and my kin who have gone before me? The Priests told him directly that they most suredly were suffering the torments of hell. Rotbart thought for a moment then the king withdrew his foot...turned to them and said -that if my father and my ancestors are not in your heaven I will rather spend an eternity with them in your hell than alone with your god in heaven" The missionary's heads were lopped off and purportedly bowled down the street. this story I paraphrased from the Frisii Lexicum translated from a history book and I did this from memory...point is christianity was forced upon northern europe and accepted at swordpoint. A terrible part of history for us.
next I'll draw up sources and paste them. gotta learn that.

Wrong!
First, Hitler was trying to save Europe from the clutches of international Jewry.
Second, according to Seventh Day Adventist scholars (who have put a lot of effort into the project) the Catholic Church is directly responsible for the deaths of about 100 million people, most of whom were Europeans.
Christinsanity is an alien evil Jewish creed that was intended to enslave the gentiles.
It worked!
I am a proud pagan who will resist unto death any attempt to force the worship of a Jewish god on to me.
Hail Wodan!

You worship a transsexual cyclops! I can't wait until we establish His Kingdom and give you Baal cultists a taste of the holy sword!

It seems the whites in Europe were slaughtering the hell out of each other long before the Christians or the Jews got there.

Don't some of these cannibal pagans sound like kikes whining about the holocaust? Get over it! We Christians kicked your butts! Hail Aryan Charlemagne!!!

http://www.american-pictures.com/genealogy/descent/photos/Charlemagne.jpg

You worship a transsexual cyclops! I can't wait until we establish His Kingdom and give you Baal cultists a taste of the holy sword!Martin Lindstedt can be Fuhrer!

for a 1000 years they beat christianity into Europeans. No one accepted the evil religion it was forced on our people to enslave us all.

Don't some of these cannibal pagans sound like kikes whining about the holocaust? Get over it! We Christians kicked your butts! Hail Aryan Charlemagne!!!

http://www.american-pictures.com/genealogy/descent/photos/Charlemagne.jpg


Charlemagne would probably have you slaughtered as well because your near-Tourette's style rants would convince contemporary priests of that era that you were demon possessed. Charlemagne also didn't practice the same wacky religion as you.

It was already diluted and adulterated beyond recognition. Maybe what Herr Hitler did was re-refine it.

Hitler did absolutely nothing to "refine" German xtianity.In fact he hated xtianity above all else and recognised it to be a tool of Der Ewige Jude for the enslavement of Aryan man.
"Let xtianity die a natural death"[Table Talk]

This is, of course, a lie. Charlemagne did not slaughter the Saxons because they were pagans, heathens is actually the appropriate word. Charlemagne slaughtered the Saxon rebels in frustration because they rebelled OVER and OVER and OVER again against the Carolingian Empire. Charlemagne's first campaign against the Saxons began because the Saxons attacked the Carolingian Empire and sacked several cities and churches along its frontier. After putting them down the first time, destroying their shrine Irminsul in revenge, the Saxons ravaged numermous churches in Hesse while Charlemagne was away in Italy campaigning against the Lombards. After Charlemagne crossed the Wesser in 775 and defeated them a second time they gave hostages and swore oaths of loyalty to the Frankish Empire. When Charlemagne was campaigning yet again against the Lombards in 776, the Saxons rebelled in southern Saxony and violated their oath of fealty. Charlemagne once again left Italy and crossed the Alps to defeat them in Saxony for the third time. On this occassion, as a result of their defeat, they swore they would become Christians are recognize the authority of Charlemagne and the Franks. As a promise of their subjugation they pledged their fatherland to Charlemagne.



Matthias Becher, Karl der Grosse (Munich, 1999), p.63

The Franks then established a stronghold in Saxony known as Karlsburg. Believing that the Saxons were finally subjegated, Charlemagne left yet again to campaign against the Moors in Spain. The Saxons took advantage of Charlemagne's absence yet again to rebel and destroy Karlsburg, sacking several churches, plundering the entire right bank of the Rhine up to Koblenz this time. It was this rebellion which infuriated Charlemagne and prompted his next campaign against the Saxons. After being defeated at Bocholt, the Eastphalians swore loyalty to Charlemagne and surrendered unconditionally. Finally believing the Saxons were subordinated for good, Charlemagne even appointed several Saxon nobles as counts in 782. Not long after this the Slavs began attacking the Saxons and Thuringians in the East. Charlemagne next sent a mixed Frankish-Saxon force to deal with the Slavs. At this point, the Saxons rebelled yet again and with the Slavs slaughtered the Frankish army sent to defend the Saxons. Charlemagne's own marshal and chamberlain were killed this time by the Saxons. When Charlemagne himself marched East with his own army to deal with the situation the Saxons surrendered yet again and handed over the rebels. These were the individuals that were slaughtered, not because they were pagans, but because they were traitors. The number "4,500" also comes from the Carolingian royal annals which were grossly exaggerated. In the aftermath of this, Charlemagne issued the Capitulatio de partibus Saxonie which prescribed the death penalty for refusing baptism, destroying churches, violating the loyalty oath, and plotting against Christians. The death penalty also applied to cannibalism and human sacrifice which was being practiced by the Saxons. The Saxons rebelled several mores over the next decade and were punished as traitors for it.

Fuck Charlemagne.He was a bloodthirsty despot who used xtianity as a means of holding his empire together.He used every cunning device and every act of shame imagineable to enslave my ancestors and deprive them of their indigenous gods.
So I say again fuck Charlemagne the Jewish despot.

As for Wagner being confused in his Christianity, far from it. You go see Parsifal Craig and then come back and tell me Wagner was wrong. Ever seen Parsifal? Ever seen any Wagner Mr Nazi.org?

No. Our Christianity is a synthesis of universal spiritual ideas and our own particular racial spirit.

But AE you know as well as I do that Parsifal is a pagan music drama with the thinnest of xtian overlayers.Parsifal is the religion of the Aryan blood and he is a type of the coming final Avatar.[The one that Hitler referred to when he said that he was merely his forerunner-as in John the Baptist to xrist]

for a 1000 years they beat christianity into Europeans. No one accepted the evil religion it was forced on our people to enslave us all.

Indeed and Heil Wotan we are casting off our shackles and reclaiming our Aryan heritage.

You worship a transsexual cyclops! I can't wait until we establish His Kingdom and give you Baal cultists a taste of the holy sword!

Threatening us with your "sword" again Yahjew? You just cant stop the latent[and in your case not so latent] homosexual inferences can you? Well keep your "sword" to yourself-we are not GAY!

Don't some of these cannibal pagans sound like kikes whining about the holocaust? Get over it! We Christians kicked your butts! Hail Aryan Charlemagne!!!

http://www.american-pictures.com/genealogy/descent/photos/Charlemagne.jpg

Yeah? Well now we are kicking your butts. Hail Wotan and death to the Nazarene!

I'm certain there were plenty of Christians in Dresden. Not to mention the possible 10 million starved after the war.

So you know that the 10,000 000 were xtians do you?

Cripes, A.L., I had to go back a couple pages to find the context in which I made that comment. I was replying to fade's assertion that Hitler killed more christians than charlemagne. Trying to make the point that America has probably killed more christians than Hitler. I would expect the population of Dresden to be 50%+ christian at the time.
As far as dead christians go, how else they gonna get into heaven? This is the source of their prohibition on suicide. Without it, these simple folks would immediately off themselves to enter heaven.

Cripes, A.L., I had to go back a couple pages to find the context in which I made that comment. I was replying to fade's assertion that Hitler killed more christians than charlemagne. Trying to make the point that America has probably killed more christians than Hitler. I would expect the population of Dresden to be 50%+ christian at the time.
As far as dead christians go, how else they gonna get into heaven? This is the source of their prohibition on suicide. Without it, these simple folks would immediately off themselves to enter heaven.

Whirlwind I just want to make the simple obsevation that church attendance,especially within the Third Reich should not be equated with genuine xtian conviction.
There are after all nutcases such as Yahjew666,Marinowitz and Hoffburg who claim to be xtian but their words and actions deny the essence of xtianity which lets face it is a multiracial Jewish inspired religion unfit for the Aryan race soul.

Agreed. I do think most citizens of the Reich would have checked the box next to christian. Two or three generations would have made a huge difference. But those folks had been born into a christian environment.