First thing.

When WOMEN meet, get males out of the room!

Get 'em off the internet.

Get 'em "working".

Keep 'em at work, off welfare, and supporting their families.

When males feel a need for an opinion on some matter or other outside/beyond the home, THE WOMAN, if she has a good reason and is in the mood at the moment, will give it to 'em.

If not, she'll tell 'em not to worry their ugly fat heads.

And further, she'll point out to 'em how they could better use their "thinking" time in working and going out and fighting for their race in real life.

Working is perfectly fine with me as long as you women start making lots of white babies :)

I strongly object to point 2. When we men feel like we need a woman's opinion, don't worry girls, we'll ask you.

rofl. Asses ... I tell you .. this forum is full of asses. :D

rofl. Asses ... I tell you .. this forum is full of asses. :D

Then leave it. Elemental logic, girlie. Far too complicated for your pretty little head, eh? After all, you got all those pathetic losers over at SF to go home to. They are sure to 'Yes Dear' your every command in the vain hope of getting some, even if it is only cyber.

[QUOTE=Demigorgona]First thing.

>When WOMEN meet, get males out of the room!


80% of race-mixing is done by White women. It seems that you have a lot of explaining to do about your gender. There must be something inherently inferior about the female reasoning ability.

Oy vey Gott, good job yes...

Women should be held in pens where men can impregnate them. Silly little things, oy yes, no thoughts in their brain.

I support you and your oppression of women, after all, us men need to stick together, no? Shalom!


Did it hurt when they chopped your dick off?

[QUOTE=Demigorgona]First thing.

>When WOMEN meet, get males out of the room!


80% of race-mixing is done by White women. It seems that you have a lot of explaining to do about your gender. There must be something inherently inferior about the female reasoning ability.

Actually, it JUST might be the fact that non white males, typically black males, are more masculine then white men these days.

Women like masculine males and unfortunately the so called 'stronger' gender among the white race has decided to be effiminate, but that is due to Jewish propaganda telling the white male they should act so.

Maybe it wouldn't be a problem if white males weren't so shy, and well ... metrosexual like. Just a thought ;)

Oy vey no! There was a feeling of unimaginable bliss. You should get it done silly Goy. Ze women like ze circumsized penis.


Yeah, but did you ever think that maybe some men LIKE IT that ze women don't like it???

black males, are more masculine then white men these days.

And I'm sure you know from personal experience, lots of it.
Who gives a flying fuck about your sordid and boring sexual fantasies girlie? So you like it ruff in bed. Big bad boring fucking deal.

Demigorgona:
"Actually, it JUST might be the fact that non white males, typically black males, are more masculine then white men these days."

Demigorgona:
Isn't that the same as saying you are attracted to black males?
I'm a woman and that would never come out of my mouth let alone my thoughts.... Saying that black males are more masculine than white men these days, is the same in my book as saying that you find the nigger more attractive than our white men!!

Deny it if you must, however it means the same thing in English.

White men are not only superior in looks and brain, but in everything else, too. No other race can compare to the perfect Aryan male.
Black men are not more masculine than white men - black men are beast. There is a big difference between being masculine and being a beast.

Check out www.newnation.com and read about them.

Actually, it JUST might be the fact that non white males, typically black males, are more masculine then white men these days.

Women like masculine males and unfortunately the so called 'stronger' gender among the white race has decided to be effiminate, but that is due to Jewish propaganda telling the white male they should act so.

Maybe it wouldn't be a problem if white males weren't so shy, and well ... metrosexual like. Just a thought ;)
Black men are NOT more masculine, they are fucking savages. If that is masculinity then they can have it.

White men are stronger, more chivalrous, more liable to defend our women and more.

The metrosexual population is only a small percentage of White males, and those White males are too worried about the latest gel product for their hair than saving the race.

And it is not all the jews fault that those men have done this, the jew did not put the phone to his ear to make that manicure appointment. White people are responsible as well.

They love them niggers up there in Canada. They should start advertising to Southern blacks for Canadian vacations.

80% of race-mixing is done by White women. It seems that you have a lot of explaining to do about your gender. There must be something inherently inferior about the female reasoning ability.


Actually, the original post was made by a male creep who hates women. This new thread was created to show you how silly it is that certain men think in such a way.

80% and you have the stats where? Actually, I am repulsed that white males will model themselves after the negroidal species. Wearing baggy jeans that hang lower than the underwear is so wiggerish. How many white women have you seen behave as such? Now, how many white racialist women have you seen sporting negroid counterparts? I can tell you of one so-called white racialist male that loves to hump Jew whores and brags about it here at VNN Forum. I don't see any white women bragging about such here at VNN.

Actually, the original post was made by a male creep who hates women. This new thread was created to show you how silly it is that certain men think in such a way.

80% and you have the stats where? Actually, I am repulsed that white males will model themselves after the negroidal species. Wearing baggy jeans that hang lower than the underwear is so wiggerish. How many white women have you seen behave as such? Now, how many white racialist women have you seen sporting negroid counterparts? I can tell you of one so-called white racialist male that loves to hump Jew whores and brags about it here at VNN Forum. I don't see any white women bragging about such here at VNN.

I'm really not sure whats worse to see, a race-mixer or a wigger. Both seem so utterly repulsive and infuriating..and sad of course.

http://www.wiggaz.com/photo/dance.jpg

Most women, no matter their race, hate themselves.
Females will always be somewhat masochistic. Nature has programed the female to give birth and suckle the newborns, keep an eye on the newborns while the hunter-gatherer male is out of the camp.

The female gender is not designed BY NATURE to do much more than this. Obviously, we no longer live in a natural human DNA friendly environment. Humans have only recently broken from the hunter-gatherer society 5000 years ago or so. We have been on the planet for over 150,000 years. Try to understand our DNA and current environment are in a state of flux. They were not designed for one another.

The female nature is one of self-hating, follower, do not deviate from the norm thinking. The worst thing for a female is to be independent minded - nature gave the males the independent mind, to think, to build, to preserve.

Females like the ones posted above are actually just acting out on nature's program. Unfortunately, the jews who now control most peoples minds and moral value systems want white racial females to worship and crave attention from the nigger race. Hence, you end up with whiggers.
Many young males with little or no self esteem will also follow the trends.

It is all a self esteem issue.
But, males are the penetrators and females are the submissives.

Sounds like demigorgona is somewhat influenced by the psychology of the hollywood and fashionable jews who promote what she stated.
See how strong the female drive to go along with the atus quo thinking is?
Even a White Nationalist female has been influenced by the warped ideals of the white hating jews.

Do not underestimate the power the jews and the multiculti lovers have on the brains of people nowadays.

Derrick Beukeboom:

I'm female and I'm about the least "status quo" kind of person on earth. I never form my opinions on what ANYONE says, I always look at an issue from as many sides as possible, then decide what I think is right.

I'ts easy for you to claim "women are followers, they're programmed" every time you see a woman say something you don't agree with. If a woman protests against some form of sexism, you say "OH, it's the Jews and Hollywood" that made her think that. If a woman would go along with and agree with negative statements made about women as a whole you would say "OH women are all masochists, and hate themselves" so I guess a woman can't win with you, huh? The overgeneralizations you make are quite astounding, can your mind really think that everything is that simplistic?

Did you ever think that women form their opinions based on their EXPERIENCES in the world, and not solely on television, other media, or what someone else tells them?

If you honestly think that women are biologically programmed only to give birth and suckle their young, then you must also think that men are biologically programmed only to fight for territory, and screw. If I believed that (which I don't), I would say that men should only be allowed to breed and join the army. Wow, maybe we need to engineer a third sex to be the world's doctors, lawyers, scholars and scientists since we humans are so one dimensional. Why is it that you apply your simplistic views on biological and genetically programmed abilities and human potentials only to women? Okay, so go ahead with the cop out here and say I'm programmed by the Jews and that's why I'm asking these questions.

Most women, no matter their race, hate themselves.
Females will always be somewhat masochistic. Nature has programed the female to give birth and suckle the newborns, keep an eye on the newborns while the hunter-gatherer male is out of the camp.

The female gender is not designed BY NATURE to do much more than this. Obviously, we no longer live in a natural human DNA friendly environment. Humans have only recently broken from the hunter-gatherer society 5000 years ago or so. We have been on the planet for over 150,000 years. Try to understand our DNA and current environment are in a state of flux. They were not designed for one another.

The female nature is one of self-hating, follower, do not deviate from the norm thinking. The worst thing for a female is to be independent minded - nature gave the males the independent mind, to think, to build, to preserve.

Females like the ones posted above are actually just acting out on nature's program. Unfortunately, the jews who now control most peoples minds and moral value systems want white racial females to worship and crave attention from the nigger race. Hence, you end up with whiggers.
Many young males with little or no self esteem will also follow the trends.

It is all a self esteem issue.
But, males are the penetrators and females are the submissives.

Sounds like demigorgona is somewhat influenced by the psychology of the hollywood and fashionable jews who promote what she stated.
See how strong the female drive to go along with the atus quo thinking is?
Even a White Nationalist female has been influenced by the warped ideals of the white hating jews.

Do not underestimate the power the jews and the multiculti lovers have on the brains of people nowadays.

I agree with you absolutely, brother! Women hate themselves instinctively – their self loathing is a natural feeling, as they recognize the dishonesty and uselessness that makes them what they are, though they deny it adamantly.
Women hate themselves and everyone else as well. This is why so many bitches abort their unborn Aryan children. This is why so many divorces take place. This is why we are slaves, subservient to such feminist laws and regulations. This is why so many men, rather than putting up with the ungrateful, abhorrent bitches, choose to masturbate. It’s a fact of nature that feminism is a destroyer, and Aryan men will someday take what is theirs without putting up with the bullshit regulations society has erected.

The future is ours! Cheers, Derrick Beukeboom! 1488

Legolas88, you seem to have some issues with females. Why is this? Do you hate women? Are you implying that all females are dishonest in nature? I sure hope not. I guess males have nothing to do with our high divorce rates? *rolls eyes* Why do you refer to females as bitches? You seem to have some anger issues you need to deal with. You come off as one angry female hater. Poor guy. Maybe you need to get laid.

White men are not only superior in looks and brain, but in everything else, too. No other race can compare to the perfect Aryan male.
Black men are not more masculine than white men - black men are beast. There is a big difference between being masculine and being a beast.

Check out www.newnation.com and read about them.


I agree, how many times have niggers been defeated in battle by Whites? [*insert large number here*] Why is this? Because the white man uses brains as well as bronze. When the niggers do, get lucky, win it's almost always because they had the numerical advantage or either the commander of the White forces was drunk at the time of battle. In battle generally 1 White man is as good as 3 or 4 niggers. (based on K: D ratios) Ever watched niggers play paintball? Well, lets just say they don't come out looking like niggers, but the White guys tend to come out still looking White.

Why so many White women are easily seduced into defiling their race:

You know how serial killers and mass murderers who are caught get tons of love letters from women? The reason for this is that these women fear evil, and so they want to be on the side of evil. By being close to an evil man they hope they won't be attacked themselves. It is insane thinking, but that's the reason for all those letters.

And it is the reason why so many women defile their race by selling themselves to animals. This, I think, should be fairly obvious even when you haven't heard a psychiatrist explain it.

Fredrik Haerne:

There may be some truth in your statement that SOME women go for blacks out of fear, or wanting to protect themselves by aligning with the ones they are afraid of. But I think there are alot of factors involved not just that one.

When it comes to the serial killer bit, my thoughts about those women is that they may have a saviour complex. They actually think that if the right woman gets involved with these psychos that they can "save" them or make them different. Some women (and men, keep in mind that Susan Atkins, the "serial killer" female in the Charles Manson Family has been married TWICE since she's been in prison for multiple murders) are attracted to damaged goods, and have some twisted need to rescue these people.

Another factor is self image. If you would see the type of women that go for blacks in America you would typically see a white, fat, slovenly woman with bleached blonde hair. This woman can't get much interest from a white man, so she gets what she can, typically a black or Mexican that thinks he has trophy even though she's fat, ugly or otherwise nasty.

I have no idea what's going on with the Swedish and other Nordic women that go for blacks and other dark skinned races. It seems to me that in the European countries, blacks are promoted as being more sexually virile than white men. So these women want to try it and find out, no matter how negative the outcome is.

And since we're on this subject, can you tell me why white men are chasing black women? I know of THREE white men right now that actively pursue black women, I see white males with Mexican and Asian females all the time in my large city. If you look at any of the internet personal dating ads, you will see that almost across the board, the white men are saying that they are interested in white, Asian, or Hispanic females to date. And some white men say "race unimportant" which means they're open to anything, including dating black women.

What's your opinion on that?

Fredrik Haerne:
I have no idea what's going on with the Swedish and other Nordic women that go for blacks and other dark skinned races. It seems to me that in the European countries, blacks are promoted as being more sexually virile than white men. So these women want to try it and find out, no matter how negative the outcome is.

In Europe like elsewhere most Whites date their own kind of course, but as for those who do betray their duty I suppose it's for the same reason as in the U.S. Blacks promoted as more virile I don't know about, I doubt anyone would believe that. As a sidenote, it's not Blacks that make up most of the imports, but Arabs and Balkanese. Slightly less inhuman. (Yeah, I know the Balkanese are White so I am not allowed to criticize them as a group, but fuck that, I see what they are like)

Funny thing: I have heard from several non-White girls that their kind prefers to date Swedish men if they can find them, since they know that their own men are trash.


And since we're on this subject, can you tell me why white men are chasing black women? I know of THREE white men right now that actively pursue black women,

Anecdotal evidence that is misleading you. As statistics show, those Whites who date Blacks are overwhelmingly female. Among White men who date non-Whites, those who go after Blacks are few.

As for why race-betraying White men prefer Asians, and to a lesser extent mestizos, it is because they are less affected by the anti-feminine propaganda of the feminists. I have gotten to know a few girls from East Asia and the Middle East, who actually live there and haven't emigrated to Europe, and it is significant how they have maintained feminine manners in a way that many Western women haven't. (Niggresses have, of course, much less feminine manners than White women, so that's why race-betraying White men don't prefer them)

Simply put, feminist-manipulated White women have a chip on their shoulders, and many White men are goddamned tired of it. If they can't find a conservative White woman, some of them sadly look elsewhere. Just a while ago I went to this student dinner where we sang common student songs, and one girl who sat close to me sang "sisters" every time the text came back to the words "once again, brothers, once again." Makes you just want to castrate her to lessen the damage done to the world. Then a guy held a speech to Woman, and one of his jokes was to promise to "help bring down the patriarchy" in the new year. Ha ha. And then a girl held a speech to Man, where she delivered some of the worst-smelling manure I have heard, against men in general and against a guy at her table in particular. Ha ha. But this is what the propasphere allows and demands. So some men say "screw that" and find themselves an Asian instead.

I mean, the fact that many women will bark "you just want a submissive slave" when you say you are looking for a feminine woman shows what a sorry state their minds are in. Of course, many Asian women who have been brought up in the West without belonging to a large Asian enclave adopt the same chip on their shoulders.

This libertarian or whatever explains it better than I do: Why White Men Prefer Asian Women (http://www.fredoneverything.net/AsianWomen.shtml)
Although of course we don't really prefer Asian women; we prefer ladies, plain and simple.

Oh, and then there is the fact that the Asians are short and slim, and people probably find the slanted eyes exciting. Nothing to do about that except separate the races.

Last sidenote: from my own limited experience it seems the situation regarding White women is worse in the United States than in Sweden, and possibly worse than anywhere else. The only other countries that could compete are the other Germanic ones, but those I am familiar with do not seem to be in a worse state. I used to have an American girlfriend, went with her to her home state a couple of times, and my God, how do you people dress? Sneakers, pants with large pockets on them, overweight and everything. Makes me look like a fashion fanatic, which I sure am not.

Lego"lass"88:

I think all your loathing of females is a mere reflection of your own self loathing. What you feel on the inside is what you put out on the "outside". In your case it's always pure bile. You poor thing. I have this vision of you one day, having some sort of spiritual revelation and becoming a monk to atone for your "sins". Either that, or some well meaning sort will probably do you in. No loss.

Lego"lass"88:

I think all your loathing of females is a mere reflection of your own self loathing. What you feel on the inside is what you put out on the "outside". In your case it's always pure bile. You poor thing. I have this vision of you one day, having some sort of spiritual revelation and becoming a monk to atone for your "sins". Either that, or some well meaning sort will probably do you in. No loss.

I agree. Did you notice he has no comments? I guess he does not respond very well to Truth about Self.

I think the tough female white warrior, europeseesthroughyou (what a dumb fuckin net handle),
seems to be a legend in her own mind. She says that most white women who go after nonwhites are fat and ugly. Hmm, not sure sure what city she lives in, but where I live, I see that MOST of these race traitor women are actually quite good looking physically. Some are darn right gorgeous.
Yes, a shame it is.

Also, you have this bad habit of assuming too much from one's post. Yes, women were designed by nature to deliver and suckle babies.
Yes, men were designed to fight, protect and impregnate women by nature.

You talk of scientists, engineers, poets and artists.....
we never had any of these until we escaped our hunter-gatherer society which our DNA was designed for.
I think you missed the whole point of the post.

Don't take this the wrong way, but....you are a feminist.
Why so many of you choose to adhere to this, Ii really don't know.
It is only causing you all as much pain and problems as it does us men.

There is no double standard here. No one says that if women would cease their feminism and follow the lead of men that we would view them as masochistic or self hating.
It is healthy and natural to let a male lead and protect you and provide for you.
This is most conducive to a healthy society and clearly defined gender roles.

Last sidenote: from my own limited experience it seems the situation regarding White women is worse in the United States than in Sweden, and possibly worse than anywhere else. The only other countries that could compete are the other Germanic ones, but those I am familiar with do not seem to be in a worse state. I used to have an American girlfriend, went with her to her home state a couple of times, and my God, how do you people dress? Sneakers, pants with large pockets on them, overweight and everything. Makes me look like a fashion fanatic, which I sure am not.


Lmfao. Ahahahahaahahaahahahahahahahaha

Last sidenote: from my own limited experience it seems the situation regarding White women is worse in the United States than in Sweden, and possibly worse than anywhere else. The only other countries that could compete are the other Germanic ones, but those I am familiar with do not seem to be in a worse state. I used to have an American girlfriend, went with her to her home state a couple of times, and my God, how do you people dress? Sneakers, pants with large pockets on them, overweight and everything. Makes me look like a fashion fanatic, which I sure am not.

LOL. That was pretty funny Fred.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/fashionno-no3.jpg

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Last sidenote: from my own limited experience it seems the situation regarding White women is worse in the United States than in Sweden, and possibly worse than anywhere else. The only other countries that could compete are the other Germanic ones, but those I am familiar with do not seem to be in a worse state. I used to have an American girlfriend, went with her to her home state a couple of times, and my God, how do you people dress? Sneakers, pants with large pockets on them, overweight and everything. Makes me look like a fashion fanatic, which I sure am not.
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White men are worse in the United States than in Russia and possibly worse than anywhere else. I'll take a fair complected Russian anytime over a multi-culture poisoned USA male anytime. German men are preferred as well. As far as someone pointed out about a lot of males prefer Asian women. Those type of men will hump on anything even on a lamppost. Glesemium 30C will take care of their problem. It works on all males.

I'll take a fair complected Russian anytime over a multi-culture poisoned USA male anytime.

Really? Russian guys treat women like dirt. To each his own, I guess.

As for your comments on men dating Asians, the points made seem to have passed you by. Yet another example of how badly those points need to be made.



Georgie, oh my God, what a frightening picture! There oughtta be a law, one is compelled to think. But yeah, that's the kind of dress code, or lack thereof, I was thinking of. Looks like "Hey, we haven't checked that dumpster for burgers yet!"

We made two comments on the American students when I was in France for a time: first, the clothes, of course. Second, and I mention this so you'll know I'm aware there are things you can pat your backs for, the Americans always seemed to have more fun than others. They were always laughing and smiling more than the other foreign students, or the French. Always made you wonder what they were talking about.

Lego"lass"88:

I think all your loathing of females is a mere reflection of your own self loathing. What you feel on the inside is what you put out on the "outside". In your case it's always pure bile. You poor thing. I have this vision of you one day, having some sort of spiritual revelation and becoming a monk to atone for your "sins". Either that, or some well meaning sort will probably do you in. No loss.

If you weren't leaving already, bitch, I'd respond to this. But no loss as you're going. Bye.

Legolas88, you seem to have some issues with females. Why is this? Do you hate women? Are you implying that all females are dishonest in nature? I sure hope not. I guess males have nothing to do with our high divorce rates? *rolls eyes* Why do you refer to females as bitches? You seem to have some anger issues you need to deal with. You come off as one angry female hater. Poor guy. Maybe you need to get laid.

Why is it that, when I point out the stupidity of one of your gender, all the bitches on this forum flock to her defense? You're like a pack of niggers, all whining discrimination, all yelling racism, all screaming for reperation, all screaming for blood as you pretend to be the peaceful innocent ones.
You make me sick. Fuck you, and any one who looks like you.

Legolas88, why do you assume I am a female? I do not recall defending anyone. I just ask you a few questions and you could not be a big enough boy to respond to them. How old are you? You strike me as some female hating teen that cannot do anything but hurl insults about the female gender. Just because you may have been burned in the past and just because you are not getting any is no excuse to act like some pissed off little kid that gets upset when he does not always get his way. Have you explored your own sexuality? The reason I ask is because you seem to hate females so much that maybe you are in denial over the fact that you are gay. Just a thought.

Astarte, if you're not a bitch, you might as well have been. You've deliberately neutered yourself, sacrificing all manhood in the hopes of being "popular" and getting laid. Are you that fucking ugly?
You really are a sad troll. If life were not too important to waste pitying the losers, you'd be a prime candidate for my pity. Oh well.

Cheers, troll. 1488

Astarte, if you're not a bitch, you might as well have been. You've deliberately neutered yourself, sacrificing all manhood in the hopes of being "popular" and getting laid. Are you that fucking ugly?
You really are a sad troll. If life were not too important to waste pitying the losers, you'd be a prime candidate for my pity. Oh well.

Cheers, troll. 1488


Your post makes No Sense. Do you ever have anything of Value to say? Is this the best you can do? If so? You are unworthy of your race and should be dead.

LOL. That was pretty funny Fred.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/fashionno-no3.jpg


Christ, that picture is puke-worthy. "Let's go to Starbucks! After that we can go home and watch Friends!"

Really? Russian guys treat women like dirt. To each his own, I guess.

As for your comments on men dating Asians, the points made seem to have passed you by. Yet another example of how badly those points need to be made.


No, I do believe my comments flew by your head. You missed my point. So much for the male's superior intelligence.

Furthermore, looks like from all of Gott's posts and his ridiculous essay he is in desperate need of a good supply of Gelsemium 30C. By gawd, he needs help!

No, I do believe my comments flew by your head. You missed my point. So much for the male's superior intelligence.

Furthermore, looks like from all of Gott's posts and his ridiculous essay he is in desperate need of a good supply of Gelsemium 30C. By gawd, he needs help!

*LOL* Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of menopause today! :D

This is funny.


Really? Russian guys treat women like dirt.

You must mean not like VNN Forum. Here women are treated with great affection.

LOL

This is funny.



You must mean not like VNN Forum. Here women are treated with great affection.

LOL

Are you insinuating that the gentlemen :rolleyes: at VNN treat women disrespectfully?

Are you insinuating that the gentlemen :rolleyes: at VNN treat women disrespectfully?

Respect must be earned. It can not be demanded. But that is true for men and women. Many men insult women here but they can not understand why women are not falling all over them. The funny part is they point at Russian men and call THEM boorish.

Respect must be earned. It can not be demanded. But that is true for men and women. Many men insult women here but they can not understand why women are not falling all over them. The funny part is they point at Russian men and call THEM boorish.

Russian men are great soldiers - real stamina. Russia is a great and ancient civilization and Putin is the only 'leader' out there who really is one. I hope he stays in power for the rest of a long, long life. Democracy is total shit and maybe he is the man to demonstrate it in the modern world.

Also, the Kirov ballet is tied with the Royal Danish as the best dance company in the world, though at the Kirov, the women are better than the men, while at the RDB, the men and women are equally good.

Respect must be earned. It can not be demanded. But that is true for men and women. Many men insult women here but they can not understand why women are not falling all over them. The funny part is they point at Russian men and call THEM boorish.

I can understand if men talked disrespectfully to men and women who came here as trolls or morons; however, these "gentlemen" do nothing of the kind. They attack women because they were born female, and men if they "dare" to disagree with them.
They don't make any pretense of being polite white men, and are worthy of no respect at all because of their unwhite actions and behaviors.

People should act respectfully toward one another UNLESS the person is unworthy of respect. This can very rarely be judged in one or two posts that are well written and reasonable, but disagree with your views.
THIS is the reason VNN is doing so bad.