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Augustus Sutter
08-22-2004, 11:10 AM
"5 Remember, O LORD, what has befallen us;
look, and see our disgrace!
2 Our inheritance has been turned over to strangers,
our homes to aliens.
3 We have become orphans, fatherless;
our mothers are like widows.
4 We must pay for the water we drink;
the wood we get must be bought.
5 With a yoke on our necks we are hard driven;
we are weary, we are given no rest."
This is the only thing I have ever read in that destestable old rag called the "Bible" that is at all useful. It is greatly illustrative of our current predicament. Although I have said in the past that Jarl is wrong in focusing soley on Christianity as the root cause of our problem, I am now more willing to acknowledge that hard core Christians are a huge problem in this country. I just returned from a small city out west I am relocating to that is infested with Christians. They build Churches all over the place. They are currently building this huge monumental Christian center on the north end of town. The Rubes must be handing over large chunks of change! The Christian coalition twits all walk around with that pathetic forced smile on their face. They all try and exude this false sense of wholesomeness and rapture. They are the perfect doormats for jews and their army of Orcs to wipe their feet on. They currently have it good there. It is a pretty place with realitively low crime and a solid white majority. There are some good genetics there with many tall beautiful women and sturdy capable men. I am willing to warrant in 15 years they will nearly all be gone. The Mexican Orcs already have a huge beachead there and their continued invasion will go unopposed. Oppostion would be un-Christian of course. I look forward to the day when we hang every Christian preacher and clergyman and burn every church to the ground.
Jim Crowe
08-22-2004, 11:14 AM
Christianity (and religion in general) is egalitarian and multi-cultural in nature (love you brother, even if they aren't your brother). Religion is a business like anything else and at a minimum should be taxed as one.
Augustus Sutter
08-22-2004, 11:59 AM
[QUOTE=Jim Crowe]Christianity (and religion in general) is egalitarian and multi-cultural in nature (love you brother, even if they aren't your brother). Religion is a business like anything else and at a minimum should be taxed as one.[/QUOTE]
Once again you show your penchant for pointing out the obvious but I was trying to emphasize the anesthetizing and destructive effect of Christianity as a Jewish tool.
bluedog39
08-22-2004, 12:34 PM
What is particularly horrifying is that the Christain Right is the at the far edge of the contemporary political spectrum because of its "intolerance" toward homosexuality, abortion, pornography. etc. Because nature abhors a vacuum, I think if the CR were to magically disappear its place would be taken by a nationalist movement like what exists in almost every country in Europe. That being the case the xtains deserve to be to be discredited and undermined at every opportunity.
Aryan88
08-22-2004, 05:27 PM
The Problem with christians, is that they never question anything about the Bible. They accept everything in it and everything about it.
When the Christians realize once and for all that they have been HAD by the jews...then we can all say: "There'll Be A Hot Time In The Old Town Tonight".
:D
Todd in FL
08-22-2004, 05:52 PM
[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter] I look forward to the day when we hang every Christian preacher and clergyman and burn every church to the ground.[/QUOTE]
I think most people on this board feel this way. I know I do. I give the xtians dirty looks wherever I see them... niggers, jews and mexicans too.
I want to save the churches and turn them into death metal concert venues. Wouldn't that be awesome to see Deicide at one of those big auditoriums? Rip out the pughes and pulpit. Hang the pic of christ upside down. AAAhhhahahahaha!!!!
brutus
08-22-2004, 07:35 PM
The Christian lemming will be the most difficult challenge, next to the jewish problem, for the WNs to overcome.
Quite a few of these misguided souls will burn at the stake to maintain their right to impose multiculturalism upon you.
hitler goddess
08-22-2004, 08:18 PM
[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter]",
They are currently building this huge monument I look forward to the day when we hang every Christian preacher and clergyman and burn every church to the ground.[/QUOTE]
Wow, you must really make the jews quite happy with statements such as these. You must be either completely psychotic or evil.
brutus
08-22-2004, 09:10 PM
RE: hitler goddess
Many White Nationalists feel that Christians are unwittingly working for the jews. And to a large extent this is truth.
The jew’s agenda includes forcing multiculturalism upon White people. And this is where the Christian Church comes into partnership with the evil jew. The Christian Church has been co-opted or taken-over by the jew to force Whites to integrate with niggers and muds.
For the many years the jew has been working his way to undermine all White cultural institutions.......including the Christian Churches.
The jew has twisted the following Christian messages “Do unto others, as you would have done unto you“ and “Love one another, like you would love your own brother“.........to mean.........love someone else’s brother instead of your own.
What Whites are being asked to do is utterly unnatural. They are being asked to devote themselves to the interests of other races and to ignore the interests of their own. This is like asking a man to forsake his own children and love the children of his neighbors.
This is the new religion of diversity.
In today’s churches, the priests and pastors dare not tell the White people the old sermon of “Charity begins at home”, because this doesn’t fit with the jew’s agenda.
The clergy must speak only the jew’s message..........or be crucified in the press and called pedophiles, like the Catholic priests have been.
The White Nationals here on VNN, who talk-down the Christian Church, have a legitimate gripe.
When, the great war comes............and the jew’s influence will be cast out of the church, just like when Jesus cast-out the money grubbing jews out of the temple. And White people will regain, their real heritage and cultural right to worship as they choose and not be forced to obey the jew and his evil and warped messages.
FranzJoseph
08-22-2004, 09:53 PM
[QUOTE=Keystone]How old are you? Where do you get your info about everyday white Christians?
Keystone[/QUOTE]
Go to the nearest Catholic parish, Key. Such as the one the wife and I walked out on about 15 years ago without looking back.
They really do raise money to bring Mexicans up to this country, they really do provide legal support for aliens to come here and get on Social Security (which will probably -- no will -- destroy the system for the rest of us) and they really do think they are superior for doing so. Best of all, when their own poorer or more concerned parishioners complain, brace yourself to be called a racist.
It's really worse now than when we took the walk, Keystone. And anyone who does not see these things is not looking. What the Catholics won't do the Baptists will (in fact, the Baptists were more forthcoming to aid and resettle the Bantus in America -- most of whom are on the public dole during a jobless recovery.)
The more you see what they actually do, as opposed to what the faith might profess, the more radical you get about it. And I agree ahead of time with any honorable Christian on this board who thinks it's sad that an old institution with lots of Euro history has gotten so rotten. But it's time to admit the rot is there, because it's too big to ignore.
hitler goddess
08-22-2004, 09:59 PM
[QUOTE=brutus]RE: hitler goddess
Many White Nationalists feel that Christians are unwittingly working for the jews. And to a large extent this is truth.
The jew’s agenda includes forcing multiculturalism upon White people. And this is where the Christian Church comes into partnership with the evil jew. The Christian Church has been co-opted or taken-over by the jew to force Whites to integrate with niggers and muds.
For the many years the jew has been working his way to undermine all White cultural institutions.......including the Christian Churches.
The jew has twisted the following Christian messages “Do unto others, as you would have done unto you“ and “Love one another, like you would love your own brother“.........to mean.........love someone else’s brother instead of your own.
What Whites are being asked to do is utterly unnatural. They are being asked to devote themselves to the interests of other races and to ignore the interests of their own. This is like asking a man to forsake his own children and love the children of his neighbors.
This is the new religion of diversity.
In today’s churches, the priests and pastors dare not tell the White people the old sermon of “Charity begins at home”, because this doesn’t fit with the jew’s agenda.
The clergy must speak only the jew’s message..........or be crucified in the press and called pedophiles, like the Catholic priests have been.
The White Nationals here on VNN, who talk-down the Christian Church, have a legitimate gripe.
When, the great war comes............and the jew’s influence will be cast out of the church, just like when Jesus cast-out the money grubbing jews out of the temple. And White people will regain, their real heritage and cultural right to worship as they choose and not be forced to obey the jew and his evil and warped messages.[/QUOTE]
I do not disagree with the majority of what you have said. But some of you seem to think that all Christians think exactly in the same manner. This is simply not true. There are many Christians that are not blind to the jewish propaganda, even when it may come at us from the churches we may have attended. Not all Christians favor race-mixing. I certainly do not "devote myself to the intrerests of other races" in any way. I find the type of comments made by people like Augutus Sutter to be very disturbing, when he speaks about such things as burning churches and "hanging priests" is just unacceptable. Since there are many, many white Christians, he seems to be in favor all killing white people. It is also disturbing, at least to me, that some people who post on this board seem to hate Christianity and Christians almost as much as the Jews hate christianity.
Jim Crowe
08-22-2004, 10:21 PM
[QUOTE=brutus]The jew’s agenda includes forcing multiculturalism upon White people. And this is where the Christian Church comes into partnership with the evil jew. The Christian Church has been co-opted or taken-over by the jew to force Whites to integrate with niggers and muds.
[/QUOTE]
I don't think the jews have any direct influence on Christian churches, especially the Catholic church.
Just because the Jews and Christians might goals the coincide (albeit for different reasons) doesn't mean the Jews are pulling the strings at these churches.
True that the Christian churches embrace multiculturalism for some pie-in-the-sky egalitarian world where every tribe will love every other tribe, if only they adopt the faith.
Jews aren't this stupid. Their reasons for multiculturalism tend to result in what they plan for.
Todd in FL
08-22-2004, 10:54 PM
[QUOTE=hitler goddess] I find the type of comments made by people like Augutus Sutter to be very disturbing, when he speaks about such things as burning churches and "hanging priests" is just unacceptable. Since there are many, many white Christians, he seems to be in favor all killing white people. It is also disturbing, at least to me, that some people who post on this board seem to hate Christianity and Christians almost as much as the Jews hate christianity.[/QUOTE]
I am in favor of leaving xtianity alone but there needs to be a FRANK discussing on the Bible and the real history of the jews. There are xtian preachers who openly advocate race mixing... those are the enemies and they will be judged someday for their works... and possibly hanged. There is nothing wrong with the new govt hanging race traitors and commies. The rest are just well meaning dupes who would change to our way of thinking if they were shown the truth... some wouldn't of course but that's why we need mass media.
Sutter is right and HG is somewhat wrong... again. Train's a coming around the corner. :D
hitler goddess
08-22-2004, 11:04 PM
[QUOTE=Todd in FL]
Sutter is right and HG is somewhat wrong... again. Train's a coming around the corner. :D[/QUOTE]
You are just so incredibly disgusting. I wish you would just not even respond to anything I say.
Franco
08-22-2004, 11:09 PM
[QUOTE=Jim Crowe]I don't think the jews have any direct influence on Christian churches, especially the Catholic church.
Just because the Jews and Christians might goals the coincide (albeit for different reasons) doesn't mean the Jews are pulling the strings at these churches.
True that the Christian churches embrace multiculturalism for some pie-in-the-sky egalitarian world where every tribe will love every other tribe, if only they adopt the faith.
Jews aren't this stupid. Their reasons for multiculturalism tend to result in what they plan for.[/QUOTE]
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/praeternatural/how%20the%20jews%20changed%20catholic%20thinking.htm
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Todd in FL
08-23-2004, 12:04 AM
[QUOTE=hitler goddess]You are just so incredibly disgusting. I wish you would just not even respond to anything I say.[/QUOTE]
The body of what I said was a well written reply to your silly post. It refutes what you said. Why don't respond to that?
hitler goddess
08-23-2004, 12:10 AM
[QUOTE=Todd in FL]The body of what I said was a well written reply to your silly post. It refutes what you said. Why don't respond to that?[/QUOTE]
I do not wish to give someone like you any of my time or attention.
sean(doc)martin
08-23-2004, 12:31 AM
[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter] I look forward to the day when we hang every Christian preacher and clergyman and burn every church to the ground.[/QUOTE]
Why how very Jewish of you to say that you dirty Kike.
The Christians are always singing about the blood. Let us give them enough of it! Let us cut their throats and drag them over the altar! And let them drown in their own blood! I dream of the day when the last priest is strangled on the guts of the last preacher.
—Gus Hall (Jewish Chairman, Communist Party U.S.A.)
I guess stealing the greasy Jews tag lines and dreams is your way but I go for the more Aryan approach.
Colonel-Voltz
08-23-2004, 12:47 AM
[QUOTE=Augustus Sutter]"5 Remember, O LORD, what has befallen us;
look, and see our disgrace!
2 Our inheritance has been turned over to strangers,
our homes to aliens.
3 We have become orphans, fatherless;
our mothers are like widows.
4 We must pay for the water we drink;
the wood we get must be bought.
5 With a yoke on our necks we are hard driven;
we are weary, we are given no rest."
This is the only thing I have ever read in that destestable old rag called the "Bible" that is at all useful. It is greatly illustrative of our current predicament. Although I have said in the past that Jarl is wrong in focusing soley on Christianity as the root cause of our problem, I am now more willing to acknowledge that hard core Christians are a huge problem in this country. I just returned from a small city out west I am relocating to that is infested with Christians. They build Churches all over the place. They are currently building this huge monumental Christian center on the north end of town. The Rubes must be handing over large chunks of change! The Christian coalition twits all walk around with that pathetic forced smile on their face. They all try and exude this false sense of wholesomeness and rapture. They are the perfect doormats for jews and their army of Orcs to wipe their feet on. They currently have it good there. It is a pretty place with realitively low crime and a solid white majority. There are some good genetics there with many tall beautiful women and sturdy capable men. I am willing to warrant in 15 years they will nearly all be gone. The Mexican Orcs already have a huge beachead there and their continued invasion will go unopposed. Oppostion would be un-Christian of course. I look forward to the day when we hang every Christian preacher and clergyman and burn every church to the ground.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, so in other words most of our ancestors(no doubt some of your ancestors would be included in this group) were sympathetic to a hostile force(the kikes)? I should remind you that this hostile force was practically non-existent in the United States prior to the 1900s though, the majority of Americans at that time were Christians. Many of these Christians despised niggers and muds, and during the civil war shot those niggers who took up arms against them after they surrendered.
brutus
08-23-2004, 02:41 AM
RE: hitler goddess
But some of you seem to think that all Christians think exactly in the same manner. This is simply not true. There are many Christians that are not blind to the jewish propaganda, even when it may come at us from the churches we may have attended. Not all Christians favor race-mixing.
What you say is true. You are a Christian and a White National, as are many other good Christians, also good White Nationals.
Many strong WN groups interweave Christian faith with their own tenets, and this is fine.
I do disagree that the two are incompatible. It is possible to promote Christian values without compromising our White culture. Take the jew out of Christianity, and you have a great religion. Having said this, there is also room to fully accept those WN Brothers and WN Sisters who choose other paths to explore their own beliefs.
My previous post was directed at most of the main-stream Christian churches of today.
It's not that so many Christians have left the church...........it's that many churches have left their flock to follow a false creed. The creed of the evil jew.
For example; a creed that celebrates homosexually instead of recognizing, forthright, the nature of that sinful perversion. The church elders must realize that homosexuality is the result of a home that is burdened with sin, (secularists call it a dysfunctional family) but they chose to follow the jewish lie that the homosexual is caused by nature (or God if you like). When this is in complete contradiction of Biblical teaching that homosexuality is “an abomination unto the Lord.” And yet, homosexual churches are springing-up all over.
Today’s corrupt preachers choose to teach, “do not judge the homosexual’s sin”, and then completely eliminate discussion of the nature of the homosexual perversion. By not permitting an honest spiritual dialogue, the church ignores it’s sacred responsibility to educate it’s flock to the difference between right and wrong. If a church refuses to tell it’s adherents the difference between right and wrong...........it is no longer a church, but an instrument of evil.
There are other social issues that many of the modern Christian churches have come down on the wrong side.........abortion, diversity, chastity, the male role in the family, etc. They are obviously doing a bad job teaching the correct values, because all evidence on all levels tells us, that White Western society is going downhill fast.
The blazing hypocrisy, injected into fundamental Christianity creed by the jew has chased away countless millions of it’s adherents from the church.......and yours truly, also.
Augustus Sutter
08-23-2004, 06:53 AM
[QUOTE=Keystone]Most anti-christian posters here would make excellent Jewish Defense League members.
Would they happily burn down churches with their parents or grandparents inside? Surely they have been defiled, too. Why keep them alive---they are jew-tools, right?
Most Internet WN's are neurotic wimps that need to lash out at someone, even other caucasians. Pay no mind, HG.
Keystone[/QUOTE]
I never said I wanted to kill all Christians, just the con-man preachers who suck the blood out of their parisheners. Christians, being animals with a particularly strong herd mentality could be turned to something useful if given something to replace their obsession with. As for me being a whimp I don't live that far from PA. As a matter of fact I drive to work there everyday. Just PM me and we will arrange for you to call me a whimp to my face. How about it Kikestone?
Augustus Sutter
08-23-2004, 07:05 AM
[QUOTE=Colonel-Voltz]Hmm, so in other words most of our ancestors(no doubt some of your ancestors would be included in this group) were sympathetic to a hostile force(the kikes)? I should remind you that this hostile force was practically non-existent in the United States prior to the 1900s though, the majority of Americans at that time were Christians. Many of these Christians despised niggers and muds, and during the civil war shot those niggers who took up arms against them after they surrendered.[/QUOTE]
I've said before I don't think Christians are doing anything different than other lemmings. One hundred years ago a Christian preacher would never marry a black to your daughter, today he encourages your daughter to wed a baboon. That being said, today, they are the worst of the lemmings in that they carry on organized anti-white activities. I did not advocate killing Christians like the cunty little Free-Rangers have said I did. I do advocate when the time comes doing away with the clergy and the institution of Christianity. The Christian clergy, and all holy-men in general are the laziest bunch of parasites on earth.
Augustus Sutter
08-23-2004, 07:16 AM
[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]Why how very Jewish of you to say that you dirty Kike.
I guess stealing the greasy Jews tag lines and dreams is your way but I go for the more Aryan approach.[/QUOTE]
You know Martin you have proven yourself to be such weak-minded dim-wit so many times on this board it's really sad. You keep telling us that you are great, but the problem is no one is buying it. You keep trying to get positive recognition but all you ever do is make a horse's-ass out of yourself. Retard-boy Sean Martin called me a jew. How can I ever go on?
Draco
08-23-2004, 11:56 AM
Kikestians do have one cool thing about them.
You can heap every demeaning abuse imaginable upon them, and they not only take it, they ask for more. Beat them, rape them, kill their kids, theyll just forgive you. One must only pick up a jewspaper to see I am right.
I think the White race is better off without such defects.
Although I wouldnt hesitate to toast a marshmallow on a burning pedophile/importer of muds/priest, I don't see the need to slaughter them en masse, as they are hands down the worst miscegnators, perhaps even rivalling the JewSA military.
The Kikestian continually pushes their children into the arms of muds, as we are all Jewhovahs children anyway or whatever.
Like the jews from which they spawned, the White kikestian is going to breed itself out of existence.
Yet more proof the shekel doesnt fall far from the Star of David.
sean(doc)martin
08-23-2004, 05:10 PM
All of you people talk about Christians like you are some kind of Religious authority, and probably cannot quote one verse in it's entirety.
Turn on the Jew vision and see what the Jews tell you to believe about Christians.
Fight the Christians never mind the Jews, that is your view.
Check your records people Atheists/Pagans have NEVER defeated Christians and they never will.
It is a fact get over it you cannot touch me and I am a Christian. The least of my worries is that someday some VNNF'er will come to my house to fight me because I am a Christian.
You pagans/atheists can cry foul all day long but the fact remains Christians Lemmings or racist Christians are still stronger than you are and all the ranting you do about it does nothing.
You cannot even eject a Christian from an atheist board what makes you think you will somehow win some kind of holy war against Christians.
I am still here and cry foul all you want to there is even some Atheists on this board that have respect for what I do.
Your plea for mercy is just that a plea for mercy from Christians.
Antiochus Epiphanes
08-23-2004, 05:27 PM
[QUOTE=Franco]http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/praeternatural/how%20the%20jews%20changed%20catholic%20thinking.htm
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thanks franco I will look that over
sean(doc)martin
08-23-2004, 05:51 PM
[QUOTE=Franco]http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/praeternatural/how%20the%20jews%20changed%20catholic%20thinking.htm
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14 pages is quite a read but it looks good thanks Franco.
This shows that the Church has been infiltrated just like the white race by the Jews.
People use the logic that some in Christian Churches are race mixers therefore all should be destroyed.
But this same logic would dictate that since Many Whites are race mixers and promote it then all whites should be destroyed.
In the end it is a war Whites against everyone else. Not whites against whites as some would dream.
Atheism (Jews college professors) Paganism (Marilyn Manson and Anton Levay) has been invaded by the Jews just like the white race has and a lot of Christian Churches have.
Just because some are corrupt doesn’t mean all should be destroyed.
Just so you know all the Jews are corrupt, they are taught to be from birth and it is their nature.
sean(doc)martin
08-23-2004, 07:06 PM
[QUOTE=Jarl].
Here you can read from a Christian website[size=3] how[/size] (allmost all) the Churches have beeen changed into a destructive tool against the White Race.
[color=#0000ff]HOW Religion Was USED as a Subversive Tool Against the White Race[/color] (http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=7408)
[color=royalblue]This (book) was written from a Christian viewpoint and only deals with recent times... the research is [size=3]100 % correct[/size] (and very illuminating).[/color]
[font=Book Antiqua][color=#003366]Excerpts from[/color][/font]
[font=Monotype Corsiva][size=4][color=#990000]Unholy Alliances[/color][/size][/font]
[font=Georgia][size=3][color=#990000]The Secret Plan and the Secret People[/color][/size][/font]
[font=Georgia][size=3][color=#990000]Who are Working to Destroy America[/color][/size][/font]
[font=Book Antiqua][color=#003366]by Dr. James W. Wardner, D.M.D., 1996[/color][/font]
[font=Book Antiqua][size=2][color=#003366]This book is available through [color=#0000ff]radioliberty.com[/color] (http://www.radioliberty.com/newbkvd.htm)[/color][/size][/font]
[size=2][font=Arial]"Once the home of the free and the brave, we are now a country of decadence, occultism and arrogant politicians. We are a people on the edge of collapse -- financial, political and moral!" [/font][/size][font=Verdana][size=1]James W. Wardner, backcover, [color=#0000ff]Unholy Alliances[/color] (file:///C:/WINDOWS/Desktop/New%20Folder/church%20molding%20the%20thought/council-of-churches.htm)[/size][/font]
[font=Georgia][size=2][color=#990000]From Chapter 7:[/color][/size][/font]
[font=Georgia][size=2][color=#990000] The National and World Council of Churches[/color][/size][/font]
[size=2][font=arial, helvetica, sans serif][size=2][color=#000000]Dr. Harry Ward, a long recognized leader of the National Council of Churches was identified as a Communist by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.... He perverted several generations of American ministry with his pro-Red teachings in his position as Professor of Christian Ethics at Union Theological Seminary in New York city, a subsidiary of the Rockefeller Octopus.[/color][/size][/font][/size][font=Verdana][color=#990000][size=1] [page 152][/size][/color][/font]
[size=2][font=arial, helvetica, sans serif]Why would Communists who are known as atheistic materialists be interested in religion? The answer is simple. Socialist "theologian" and associates of the British Fabian Society, Dr. Walther Rauschenbusch, wrote in 1893: "The only power that can make socialism succeed, if it is established, is religion. It cannot work in an irreligious country." [/font][font=Verdana][size=1][color=#990000][Page 153][/color][/size][/font][/size]
[size=2][font=arial, helvetica, sans serif]Major Edgar Bundy, in his book, Collectivism in the Churches, said, "Socialism, thus, was his first concern. Religion was only a means toward achieving socialism."[/font][/size][font=Verdana][color=#990000][size=1] [Page 153-Bundy 125] [/size][/color][/font]
[size=2][font=arial, helvetica, sans serif]Thus, a great World Parliament of Religions was called in 1893 in Chicago "to explore and strengthen the common grounds of brotherhood which bind all men and which make the truly one in mind and heart." [/font][/size][font=Verdana][color=#990000][size=1][pages 153-6][/size][/color][/font][font=arial, helvetica, sans serif][size=2] The Archbishop of Canterbury was indignant, given "that the Christian religion is the one religion... I do not understand how that religion can be regarded as a member of a Parliament of Religions, without assuming the equality of other intended members and the parity of their position and claim." [/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=1][color=#990000][Page 153-7][/color][/size][/font][font=arial, helvetica, sans serif][size=2] ...[/size][/font]
[size=2][font=arial, helvetica, sans serif]The promotion of "unity-in-diversity" through religion continued and in 1901, an international Congress on the history of religions opened in Paris. ... [/font][font=Verdana][size=1][color=#990000][Page 154][/color][/size][/font][/size]
[size=2][font=arial, helvetica, sans serif]After world War 1, John D. Rockefeller became involved in what was called the Interchurch World Movement. The idea was that "another crusade was needed to bring the warring factions of Christianity together." [154-11] Rockefeller promoted universal ecumenism by stating in December 1917: "Would that I had the power to bring to your minds the vision as it unfolds before me! I see all denominational emphasis set aside... I see the church molding the thought of the world as it has never done before, leading in all great movements as it should. I see it literally establishing the Kingdom of God on earth." [/font][/size][font=Verdana][color=#990000][size=1][154-12][/size][/color][/font]
[size=2][font=arial, helvetica, sans serif]The Federal Council of Churches... was used routinely by the Rockefellers to further their personal interests in church circles. Rockefeller donated to the Federal Council's Department of Church and Economic Life and promoted the concept of an international church. [/font][font=Verdana][size=1][color=#990000][154-13][/color][/size][/font][font=arial, helvetica, sans serif] This is how "ecumenism" got its beginning as Rockefeller became the most important financier of liberal and ecumenical Protestantism.[/font][font=Verdana][size=1][color=#990000][154-14][/color][/size][/font][/size]
[size=2][font=arial, helvetica, sans serif]Whenever Rockefeller influence prevails, there are consistently found interlocking relationships with the Council on Foreign Relations. Three member of the Council on Foreign relations involved with the Federal Council of churches were: [/font][/size]
[font=Arial]cont at: http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=7408&page=1&pp=10[/font]
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And people call me a shameless self promoter.
sean(doc)martin
08-23-2004, 08:19 PM
[QUOTE=Jarl].
[color=blue]I wonder if doc will accuse me of being a Christian because I link to and[color=DarkRed] reccomend[/color] books from Radio Liberty... A very Christian Radio Broadcaster and book seller ?[/color]
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I am not familiar with them but I am kind of suspicious why a Christian hater such as yourself would promote a Christian organization.
What will your sock puppets Draco, Ironworker, Dr A, and Aryan LD say about you promoting a Christian organization is the question you should be worried about.
sean(doc)martin
08-23-2004, 08:51 PM
[QUOTE=Jarl].
doc, you should check out Dr. Stan's Radio Broadcast. He is on very many stations that I bet you could get some of in your area.
See a huge list of stations here: http://www.radioliberty.com/frequency.htm
You can even listen over your computer....LOL
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As a matter of fact it is played on the radio station about a 2 miles from where I used to attend Worship Service.
It is played about an hour after services so I will listen to it next Sunday.
sean(doc)martin
08-23-2004, 09:06 PM
[QUOTE=Jarl]
But then I do not agree with everything you say either...LOL
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What do I say that you do agree with?
sean(doc)martin
08-24-2004, 03:20 AM
[QUOTE=IronWorker]Don't need too. Christianity is a dying faith. Churches in Europe today are essentially museums. [/QUOTE]
Last I head neither you nor I was in Europe.
They are thriving in America. Saddleback community church has nearly 20,000 members and that is in California. There is even one in Kentucky that has over 20,000 members -Southeast Christian Church. Not to forget Chuck Swindoll whose congregation has around 15,000 members.
Where I live over 70% of the people are active church members.
You know this as well as I do.
[size=4]Please name one Atheist on this board that has respect for what you do.[/SIZE]
Sure his name is Ironworker. You won’t admit it but deep down inside you have respect for the ol Doc. Tell the truth. If you could snap your fingers and make the Doc disappear would you?
I was gone for 3 days and when I came back you were about to leave. Tell the truth you saw I was back and knew you couldn’t leave.
sean(doc)martin
08-24-2004, 03:39 AM
[QUOTE=IronWorker]
Yes.[/QUOTE]
That is to bad.
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