“We just grew apart.”

“I don’t know what happened, we just seemed to drift away from one another.”

“After 14 years of marriage, I found that I was living with a stranger.”

Hundreds of times, we’ve all heard these reasons why people have divorced from one another. We simply give a sympathetic nod of understanding and move on to the next topic. We buy these shallow and lame excuses because we don’t want to pry or to open-up old wounds.

“We just grew apart”....................is a crock of shit.

This excuse goes against all logic and understanding of human nature. When two young people fall in love and decide to make a life together, most always, they have all the right and good intentions. With few and rare exceptions, people enter into matrimony because they want to stay together until they die.

The fact is...........when two people are together, they will bond. The longer that they live together, the closer that they will bond to one another. Haven’t you ever noticed that people who have been married for more then 30 or 40 years seem to look and act exactly alike? This is nature’s design. Anything other then this is unnatural.

Let’s explore.

Let’s put the jew brainwash aside and speak the truth about people and relationships. Human beings are designed to be a monogamous biological life form. There are many other examples in nature. Yes, we have the capacity to have sex outside the marital bond. But this is because nature always imbeds a “safety-net” into all specie’s behavior to guarantee survival in those times of environmental stress on that species. Bio 101

There is obvious weakness in any family that is divided. There is no argument here.

Nature does not want any weakness in a structure that is principally designed to nurture the next generation. Universal axiom.

But the facts are that 75-80% of America marriages are being divided by divorce.

What is causing the division?.................You guessed it.............the evil jew.

People, who are in love and growing together in a marriage, are not only lovers and life partners, are also many other things. And one of the major things that all people are.....they are all “consumers.”

We are not only consumers of food and material things, we are also consumers of “information.”

And friends.............where do we get our information from?

We, as White Nationals, know who gives 90% of most Americas their daily intake of information. We know that there is a TV inside of almost every home in America.......and it’s on all the time. And it is putting jew ideas into peoples heads. For example, ideas like, “women need to be independent instead of loyal to their husbands.”

And we know that this information that is consumed is poisonous to relationships.

We, again as White Nationals, realize that the zog media does nothing to promote healthy White relationships, quite the contrary........they push homosexuality and multiculturalism and White male bashing.

What does this do?

Unbeknownst to them, we have millions of White people whose relationships are being slowly poisoned and insidiously destroyed, unbeknownst to them.

Therefore, what do we hear people say, when it’s over?

“We just grew apart.”

I don’t have anything to add except to encourage to share more thoughts like this.

Been there, done it, got the damned teeshirt.

There are no winners in divorces.

[QUOTE=brutus]“We just grew apart.”

“I don’t know what happened, we just seemed to drift away from one another.”

“After 14 years of marriage, I found that I was living with a stranger.”

Hundreds of times, we’ve all heard these reasons why people have divorced from one another. We simply give a sympathetic nod of understanding and move on to the next topic. We buy these shallow and lame excuses because we don’t want to pry or to open-up old wounds.

“We just grew apart”....................is a crock of shit.

This excuse goes against all logic and understanding of human nature. When two young people fall in love and decide to make a life together, most always, they have all the right and good intentions. With few and rare exceptions, people enter into matrimony because they want to stay together until they die.

The fact is...........when two people are together, they will bond. The longer that they live together, the closer that they will bond to one another. Haven’t you ever noticed that people who have been married for more then 30 or 40 years seem to look and act exactly alike? This is nature’s design. Anything other then this is unnatural.

Let’s explore.

Let’s put the jew brainwash aside and speak the truth about people and relationships. Human beings are designed to be a monogamous biological life form. There are many other examples in nature. Yes, we have the capacity to have sex outside the marital bond. But this is because nature always imbeds a “safety-net” into all specie’s behavior to guarantee survival in those times of environmental stress on that species. Bio 101

There is obvious weakness in any family that is divided. There is no argument here.

Nature does not want any weakness in a structure that is principally designed to nurture the next generation. Universal axiom.

But the facts are that 75-80% of America marriages are being divided by divorce.

What is causing the division?.................You guessed it.............the evil jew.

People, who are in love and growing together in a marriage, are not only lovers and life partners, are also many other things. And one of the major things that all people are.....they are all “consumers.”

We are not only consumers of food and material things, we are also consumers of “information.”

And friends.............where do we get our information from?

We, as White Nationals, know who gives 90% of most Americas their daily intake of information. We know that there is a TV inside of almost every home in America.......and it’s on all the time. And it is putting jew ideas into peoples heads. For example, ideas like, “women need to be independent instead of loyal to their husbands.”

And we know that this information that is consumed is poisonous to relationships.

We, again as White Nationals, realize that the zog media does nothing to promote healthy White relationships, quite the contrary........they push homosexuality and multiculturalism and White male bashing.

What does this do?

Unbeknownst to them, we have millions of White people whose relationships are being slowly poisoned and insidiously destroyed, unbeknownst to them.

Therefore, what do we hear people say, when it’s over?

“We just grew apart.”[/QUOTE]

Absolutely, also contrary to what Diablo and his dyke friends would tell you, women are NOT naturally designed to be these sexual freaks jumping from bed to bed. Promiscuity in women is a JEWISH media imposed virus like most of the other things including the "Black men are more virile and have huge penises."

Psychologically healthy, normal White women don't care about huge penises, this is the JEW degradation of White culture into things being about body parts instead of emotions and strong pair bonds. White women are not naturally the grotesque creations of Jew written shows like "Sex and The City" which lowers male/female relationships to dual users.

Check out this headline I found just a few seconds ago on the newsgroup alt.showbiz.gossip "Actress Jennifer Garner will have lesbian kiss in upcoming flick"

See? Bisexuality in women is not NORMAL, it's created and endorsed by Jewish media. In a recent British poll 40% of young British women said that they had experienced sex with a female at least once. Did this exist in 1950? HELL NO! What changed? The JEWS got more bold, they threw down the gauntlet and no longer know one shred of restraint. Why should they? Where are the Whites standing up and saying WE WON'T TAKE ANYMORE OF THIS?

Even the men on this board are not safe. I'm sure many of your wives secretly watch "Oprah" or other such mainstream JEW media material. The JEW controlled TV is the intruder, it tears White men and White women apart.

[QUOTE=OttoRemer]

Even the men on this board are not safe. I'm sure many of your wives secretly watch "Oprah" or other such mainstream JEW media material. The JEW controlled TV is the intruder, it tears White men and White women apart.[/QUOTE]
Well apparently there is only one solution. Forget about catching that yearly Discovery channel show about the “History of the American Nazis”, and simply throw the Televitz out the door making sure to destroy it so no one else picks it up and uses it for evil.

Actually I think that would be the best thing for all Aryans and they could just get their news from VNNF or Nationalvanguard.com.

Every TV program that deserved to be watched you can download for free.

The jews are afraid of us not watching the kiketube anymore, that's why they try to make filesharing illegal.

They want us to watch jewish TV to put their jewish ideas into our heads.

Anyone who supports that crap is guilty. I don't think Oprah is the biggest marriage wrecker because Oprah is not a kike, it's the kike produced stuff like MTV and Playboy that is supported by both Demonrats and Republicunts.

[QUOTE=brutus]“We just grew apart.”[/QUOTE]

Easy divorce marches under the banner of greater happiness yet ironically generates greater misery in its wake, usually. For starters, children are more scarred by the typical divorce than they usually let on. The death of a parent does not outrage a child in the same way as a divorce, because whereas death is normally unchosen and thus forgivable, divorce is deliberately chosen. Children do not enjoy, or profit from, having their homes torn apart, regardless of what kike psychologists might be paid to say. Both adults (or one of them at least) have selfishly deluded themselves into believing they have married the "wrong person", instead of taking stock of their own faults and striving to correct them. If two people can't stay commited during a marriage, what makes them think they will be able to do so afterwards? Happiness, as they would have it, eludes and will continue to elude.

It's been some decades since U.S. "conservatives" have taken a principled stance against easy divorce, so long in fact that many people have forgotten what an evil it is. Perhaps some WNs will take up this forgotten banner and incorporate it into their vision of a noble White future.

I was married for 8 years....we grew apart. Its the truth. I got married when i was 21 he was 28. He was ok for a while and then turned mean and obssesive, I grew up and apart. Yes we had kids and we split and tried to get back together.....but sometimes shit just doesnt work. We are ok friends now and he has a psycho girlfriend and I feel for both of them...but i am ok and so are the kids


uh yeah,,,,

75 to 80% of divorces end in divorce? Wow, I knew this situation was bad, but I had no idea it was that out of control. I did my internship with an attorney who mainly handled divorces and while there were a few of his clients that actually had ligitimate(sp) reasons for wanting a divorce, the majority of his clients were seeking divorces for the most stupid reasons imaginable. There were some that would say, exactly, that they felt like they had just grown apart, or that they just lost interest in the marriage and their spouse. How do people grow apart, or lose interest espcially after like 5-10 or more years of marriage. And why are there so many problems today with extra-maritial affairs? It just seems like everything that held us together and once made us strong is falling apart. Any hint of morality that exists is just further being destroyed and it seems like no one cares. People today just seem to live their life solely to have a "good time" and to live for the moment.

A lot of these problems, in American society, at least, seem to arise from all the commie liberals, and the destruction of society that emerged in the psychotic generation of the 1960s. When we were brainwashed to believe that "anything goes" and "there is no right and wrong", that morality is subjective. "And that all cultures are beliefs are equal". When they redefined everything for us and turned everything upside down. And the vast majority of people just ate it right up. I find myself wondering a lot lately, why are people just so damn stupid?

[QUOTE=hitler goddess]75 to 80% of divorces end in divorce? Wow, I knew this situation was bad, but I had no idea it was that out of control. I did my internship with an attorney who mainly handled divorces and while there were a few of his clients that actually had ligitate(sp) reasons for wanting a divorce, the majority of his clients were seeking divorces for the most stupid reasons imaginable. There were some that would say, exactly, that they felt like they had just grown apart, or that they just lost interest in the marriage and their spouse. How do people grow apart, or lose interest espcially after like 5-10 or more years of marriage. And why are there so many problems today with extra-maritial affairs? It just seems like everything that held us together and once made us strong is falling apart. Any hint of morality that exists is just further being destroyed and it seems like no one cares. People today just seem to live their life solely to have a "good time" and to live for the moment.

A lot of these problems, in American society, at least, seem to arise from all the commie liberals, and the destruction of society that emerged in the psychotic generation of the 1960s. When we were brainwashed to believe that "anything goes" and "there is no right and wrong", that morality is subjective. "And that all cultures are beliefs are equal". When they redefined everything for us and turned everything upside down. And the vast majority of people just ate it right up. I find myself wondering a lot lately, why are people just so damn stupid?[/QUOTE]

Just curious...and if so ...for how long?

[QUOTE=lorrie1488]Just curious...and if so ...for how long?[/QUOTE]


No, I am not married, and I am not a divorcee. When I do get married, though it is going to be for the right reasons and since I see marriage as a lifelong commitment between two people who are in love, if any problems arise, I, for one, will not be running, to the nearest jew divorce attorney I can find.

I hope you don't think that in saying this, I am saying anything negative about you because you are divorced. That was not my intent. I am just stating what I feel. :)

[QUOTE=hitler goddess]No, I am not married, and I am not a divorcee. When I do get married, though it is going to be for the right reasons and since I see marriage as a lifelong commitment between two people who are in love, if any problems arise, I, for one, will not be running, to the nearest jew divorce attorney I can find.

I hope you don't think that in saying this, I am saying anything negative about you because you are divorced. That was not my intent. I am just stating what I feel. :)[/QUOTE]

I understand....BUT...I felt the same way you did... BEFORE i ever got married.
Life isnt always what you think it will be.... good luck. The hand you get delt isnt always what you think it will be. Life is a game of roullette...you want it to be something...but it might not end up that way. I hope you take that into your marriage....it will only benefit you in the future. :D

[QUOTE=lorrie1488]I understand....BUT...I felt the same way you did... BEFORE i ever got married.
Life isnt always what you think it will be.... good luck. The hand you get delt isnt always what you think it will be. Life is a game of roullette...you want it to be something...but it might not end up that way. I hope you take that into your marriage....it will only benefit you in the future. :D[/QUOTE]


I can totally see what you are saying, and I know that things do happen beyond our control. Like, I said, there are some real problems that exist between people that may lead to divorce, but I also think that people get divorced for very stupid and selfish reasons. It also arises from the fact that it is so easy to get a divorce these days, with all these no-fault divorce states and laws that exist. So many people, are looking for a quick easy solution when they run into problems (which are naturally going to occur) with their marriage, instead of staying together and trying to work things out.

[QUOTE=hitler goddess]I can totally see what you are saying, and I know that things do happen beyond our control. Like, I said, there are some real problems that exist between people that may lead to divorce, but I also think that people get divorced for very stupid and selfish reasons. It also arises from the fact that it is so easy to get a divorce these days, with all these no-fault divorce states and laws that exist. So many people, are looking for a quick easy solution when they run into problems (which are naturally going to occur) with their marriage, instead of staying together and trying to work things out.[/QUOTE]

I wish only the best for people who are going into a a relationship. I have the opportunity for a couple serious relationships right now and I just get scared away because I dont want a nasty outcome....AGAIN.
But I do believe in the idea of sticking it out....it just doesnt always work that way...and to those who look down and frown upon people who are divorced...i wish them the best in the future,,you never know what will happen.

[QUOTE=brutus]The fact is...........when two people are together, they will bond. The longer that they live together, the closer that they will bond to one another. Haven’t you ever noticed that people who have been married for more then 30 or 40 years seem to look and act exactly alike? This is nature’s design...[/QUOTE]

Umm, that's close.

What actually happens is that after this first decade or so you become like siblings. It's really strange but it's true. Ancient languages, notably Egyptian, often made no distinction between "wife" and "sister," or "husband" and "brother." At first archaeologists thought they were all a bunch of incest freaks. Not so. They had a line on human behavior that's much more realistic than ours. Sis and I get along just fine because we were surprised when it happened. Everybody is. Roll with it. Nature is fun that way.

To me one of the coolest married couple I know is an old white couple both in their 80’s been married over 60 years and still hold hands. They are happy and have 4 children who each have more than two children.

I don’t envy money, or prestige but when I see those two folks and know what a happy life they live together, they are two people I truly envy.

[QUOTE=hitler goddess]I can totally see what you are saying, and I know that things do happen beyond our control. Like, I said, there are some real problems that exist between people that may lead to divorce, but I also think that people get divorced for very stupid and selfish reasons. It also arises from the fact that it is so easy to get a divorce these days, with all these no-fault divorce states and laws that exist. So many people, are looking for a quick easy solution when they run into problems (which are naturally going to occur) with their marriage, instead of staying together and trying to work things out.[/QUOTE]


What about adultery? When one partner cheats, there may be forgiveness. It's harder to forget. And forgetting could be deadly. With all the diseases out there...they obviously weren't thinking about their vows..Can you really trust them to remember a condom?

Growing bored of someone..it happens. When it does, it's time to find something (together) to refresh it. It can work out. And this is coming from me, a daughter of 2 parents who have each been married and divorced more than a handful of times to different people because they grew bored. I grew up seeing my grandparents and their marriage. 2 people who genuinely loved each other and were each others best friends. They would have had their 50th anniversary this year, had my grandfather not passed away. I can see how wonderful marriage can be IF both parties sincerely want it and are willing to work for it.

So now I go back to my original question. What do you guys think are "good" reasons for divorce? Adultery? Abuse? Growing apart? Unfulfilled needs (all around, not sexual)? Or should everyone take the "for better or worse" words at their absolute despite these things going on? Because each person has a breaking point...should they stay together so the kids can grow up in a 2 parent home? Or should they divorce and get away from each other..so that the kids don't grow up in a home of fighting/abuse/etc?

[QUOTE=dianedeutsch]What about adultery? When one partner cheats, there may be forgiveness. It's harder to forget. And forgetting could be deadly. With all the diseases out there...they obviously weren't thinking about their vows..Can you really trust them to remember a condom?

Growing bored of someone..it happens. When it does, it's time to find something (together) to refresh it. It can work out. And this is coming from me, a daughter of 2 parents who have each been married and divorced more than a handful of times to different people because they grew bored. I grew up seeing my grandparents and their marriage. 2 people who genuinely loved each other and were each others best friends. They would have had their 50th anniversary this year, had my grandfather not passed away. I can see how wonderful marriage can be IF both parties sincerely want it and are willing to work for it.

So now I go back to my original question. What do you guys think are "good" reasons for divorce? Adultery? Abuse? Growing apart? Unfulfilled needs (all around, not sexual)? Or should everyone take the "for better or worse" words at their absolute despite these things going on? Because each person has a breaking point...should they stay together so the kids can grow up in a 2 parent home? Or should they divorce and get away from each other..so that the kids don't grow up in a home of fighting/abuse/etc?[/QUOTE]


When I refer to "real problems" in a marriage, I am referring to such things as abuse or severe drug or alcohol addiction. Adultery maybe can be worked out, but it creates a violation of trust, that probably can never be healed. I would choose to draw the line at something like adultery for myself.

I just think with smaller problems(financial issues, arguments) these things can be worked on. People are just to quick these days to give up on something that could be worth preserving. If, the figures of 75-80% of marriages ending in divorce is true, that points to a decaying and very unhealthy society.

[QUOTE=hitler goddess]No, I am not married, and I am not a divorcee. When I do get married, though it is going to be for the right reasons and since I see marriage as a lifelong commitment between two people who are in love, if any problems arise, I, for one, will not be running, to the nearest jew divorce attorney I can find.
[/QUOTE]Good response. Don't let yourself be buffaloed by the "you can't say if you haven't been there" argument. You certainly CAN denounce heroin even if you haven't become a junkie. Your instincts are healthy, so stick to your guns and don't apologize in the slightest for insisting on the White way in your life.


[QUOTE=dianedeutsch]What about adultery? When one partner cheats, there may be forgiveness. It's harder to forget. And forgetting could be deadly. With all the diseases out there...they obviously weren't thinking about their vows..Can you really trust them to remember a condom?[/QUOTE]In healthier times, adultery was considered a mitigating factor in the case that the betrayed party committed murder. Those were pre-kike influence times when the obligations of living White were taken seriously. Adultery is a great evil that should be resisted by every person who would call him or herself "White".


[QUOTE=dianedeutsch]I grew up seeing my grandparents and their marriage. 2 people who genuinely loved each other and were each others best friends. They would have had their 50th anniversary this year, had my grandfather not passed away. I can see how wonderful marriage can be IF both parties sincerely want it and are willing to work for it.[/QUOTE]I have seen this with older relatives in my family, and the idea that we could return to this White way of ordering our lives is just what keeps me wanting to fight, even if I do never manage to find such for myself.

After my divorce and thinking about it when you get right down to it we simply had nothing in common. Since then I see so many couples that are as different as night and day. They really do not have one earthly thing in common with one another. You can bond with someone yet that doesn't mean you have anything in common. You can even do things together and go place's together........that doesn't mean you have anything in common either. You have to be with someone who shares the same goals as you do and has a VISION. When I was growing up my father use to say to me "find a man with a plan". I believe he's right. Sharing the same goals in life and having a plan and a vision together is what's makes for a good relationship in my book.

A lot of discussion from the girls here about symptoms. Symptoms of a pervasive disease. What is the disease? The jew. How is the disease trasmitted? TV and other mass media controlled by the jew.

Fact is, with no jewish presence or influence, America could right herself and heal all her hurts within a decade.

The bandaid fix is to turn off the TV, reduce media consumption to nil, and homeschool the young'uns. The cure is: no jews, just right.

Astronomical divorce rates and sexual degeneracy are symptoms. The jew is the disease and his method of spreading the disease is through the tube. It cannot be stressed enough. Think outside the jew box, white person.

The purpose of this thread was to spark dialogue about why there is so much divorce in today’s world and why is it so.

I enjoy this particular forum, because of the high elevation of it’s participants. Thank you.

We have to remember that there is “really nothing new under the sun”. People are people, and they have always behaved the same way since the dawn of time. Young folk fall in love, they pair-bond, and then procreate and then jointly nurture the offspring as nature’s law demands..........This has been a constant...........for many millenniums.

There is only “one variable” that has changed in White people’s relationships since the beginnings of White cultural existence. And this change is relatively recent...within the past 40-50 years.

Since the advent of this “changed variable“, we see a law of ancient and historic White culture that has been broken. It is the part about nurturing the offspring.

The changed variable is the jew’s influence in White relationships.

Let’s step back a little and image if the jew did not exist in America today.

And let’s imagine that the main stream media, television, radio and print were decidedly all pro-White. And all media programming was aimed at strengthening White marriage.

For example:

No more pro-homosexual material, no more glorification of the negro, no more White male bashing, no more enticing the young girls to behave as sluts....etc.

and conversely............

More human relationship skill teaching that would encourage mutual respect and the importance of honoring commitments, more education and training with regard to conflict resolution skills, more financial education for young married couples, more child-rearing strategies, more attention given to how to be a better spouse.......etc.

I could go on and on...........but you get the picture.

But image this happening for, say, 10.....20......30 years........what do you think would happen to the divorce rate in America after these periods of time?

This is a no brainer....................but isn’t this what we’re really fighting-for anyway?

If we White Nationals, by working toward our goals, could have a positive impact on reversing this dismal plague of White divorce.............that in itself, would be a grand victory and be truly, well worthwhile of our time.

[QUOTE=Bragi]A lot of discussion from the girls here about symptoms. Symptoms of a pervasive disease. What is the disease? The jew. How is the disease trasmitted? TV and other mass media controlled by the jew.

Fact is, with no jewish presence or influence, America could right herself and heal all her hurts within a decade.

The bandaid fix is to turn off the TV, reduce media consumption to nil, and homeschool the young'uns. The cure is: no jews, just right.

Astronomical divorce rates and sexual degeneracy are symptoms. The jew is the disease and his method of spreading the disease is through the tube. It cannot be stressed enough. Think outside the jew box, white person.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, blow up your TV :)

A look at the mind of the independent female and the attitude of today's brides and womenfolk.

http://kvetch.indiebride.com/

Excellent article by Brutus, should be on VNN main page after some polishing. :)

What is a kvetch, a jewess?

[QUOTE=999]Excellent article by Brutus, should be on VNN main page after some polishing. :)

What is a kvetch, a jewess?[/QUOTE]

A kvetch is a complainer or a complaint. The word can also be used as a verb.

It's Yiddish, I believe.

My previous post has been changed. But not by me.

My apostrophes and quotation marks have become question marks.

Can anyone explain to me how this happened?

Brutus makes some very good points. The Jews pound on Whites' psyche like a battering ram. As a result, whites are demoralized, confused, depressed, etc. All of this makes a relationship much more difficult.

The Sumner Redstones, Gerald Levins, Michael Eisners need to stand trial for war crimes, even if an undeclared war.