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FranzJoseph
09-01-2004, 12:24 AM
Below was snagged from a link a friend passed to me. No, witches don't seem to like them either.
http://www.philhine.org.uk/writings/flsh_phobia.html
Occult Homophobia - Some Choice Quotes
by Compiled by Phil Hine & Paul McAndrew
"What people have to remember is that Wicca; man and woman, God and Goddess is a fertility cult - a heterosexual fertility cult."
--Wiccan author Keith Morgan, interviewed at Autumn Link-Up '89
"The Wiccan cult stands for fertility and re-creation and not the sexual union between two 'spiritual' members of the same sex as some groups like to believe."
--Kevin Carlyon, Hastings & St. Leonards Observer, 1985.
"Thus the blasphemy of the homosexual formula, for it denies Babalon and breeds devils in chaos."
--Kenneth Grant, Nightside of Eden.
"The (Hornsea) Group ... considers that any genuinely contacted fraternity could not countenance working with sexual deviants of any sort. The reasons for this should be obvious to any trained occultist."
"...you can't work magic with a homosexual. Homosexuals just can't create a current."[/B]
--Quotes from Tanya Luhrmann's 'Persuasions of the Witches' Craft'
"Homosexuals are not human"
--Nicholas Tereshencko, in a letter to the Lamp of Thoth
"Blockages in the mulahadra chakra can lead to child abuse, sodomy and rape."
--remark by a teacher of a 'Gnostic Study Group' in Leeds, 1991.
"Anyone who is bisexual or homosexual cannot advance spiritually."
--remark by Wiccan High Priestess, 1985.
"Homosexuals cannot be true witches...we want no kinks in our circle."
--quoted from a wiccan magazine, exact source unknown.
"...when homosexuality is not 'natural' or else cannot be explained in terms of incomplete, inborn forms of sexual development, it must have the character of a deviation, vice or a perversion."
--Julius Evola "The Metaphysics of Sex."
"Homosexuals are simply fighting against their Karma - the homosexual man simply has more 'feminine' energy in his 'lower self'. The Lesbian simply has more 'masculinity' in her lower self."
--The Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness.
"The homosexual male does not imitate the female adult when he 'camps' but the female child his mother played to him. Maturer aspects of adult love are often missing, and the homosexual couple finds difficulty in making an alliance of the sort that deepens with time."
--Jean Wedloff, The Continuum Concept
"Women are by nature Yin (passive, soft, centrifugal). When they become too Yang by taking too much Yang food - the become miserable...they devote themselves to animal pets, or they turn homosexual. Their life is miserable because it violates all natural laws.
...the homosexual and the asexual person are the most pitiful of all - and the literature of the West is littered with their monstrosities ... sexual abnormality can be cured in time by strict adherence to the macrobiotic regime."
--Sakurazawa Ngoiti, Macrobiotics.
"Homosexual freedom can be associated with the decline of Greece. from the first Century onward, homosexuality flourished in Rome; male prostitution developed to an extraordinary extent and another great empire fell."
"An active, aggressive male homosexual is in a great position of responsibility. By practising oral or anal sex with his male lover, he transmits his karma as well as his hormones & vitality. The links in a chain of destiny are established and invariably passed on to others ... Homosexual men transform one another psychically but pay the price of complex metaphysical entanglements."
"Surely it is time for homosexuals themselves to wake up to the reality of their situation and seek solutions to their problems, rather than campaigning for more acceptance of homosexuality. Eastern techniques offer practical techniques for overcoming the wiles of destiny."
--Nik Douglas & Penny Slinger, Sexual Sec
Whirlwind
09-01-2004, 07:14 AM
So christians welcome fags, but pagans don't. Simple enough. AND COMPLETELY OPPOSITE THE WAY I WAS TAUGHT AS A CHILD. That LaVey guy, for all his other weirdness, is not queer. Unlike the elected head of one major christian sect.
albion
09-01-2004, 09:45 AM
- Radical Faeries
Who are the faeries? http://www.radfae.org/ (http://www.radfae.org/)
We're decentralized, and nobody's in charge -- so every faerie who you ask will give a slightly different definition of "Radical Faerie." Generally, we tend to be Gay men who look for a spiritual dimension to our sexuality; many of us are healers of one kind or another. Our shared values include feminism, respect for the Earth, and individual responsiblity rather than hierarchy. Many of us are Pagan (nature-based religion).
Our defining events are Faerie Gatherings, where we'll get together for an extended retreat, usually in the woods, separated from the outside world. A lot of that time is spent in "heart circles," where we open up emotionally.
What/Who/When are the Radical Faeries?!?
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Heights/5347/radfae.html
One of the most apt descriptions I've heard is that the Radical Faeries are a "flamboyant anti-assimilationist fringe of gay liberation."
The modern Faerie movement ... started in the late 1970s. Harry "Duchess" Hay, the father of the modern gay movement (The Mattachine Society in the 1940s) was instrumental in the formation of the Faeries.
Abzug Hoffman
09-01-2004, 10:37 AM
Aleister Crowley, media darling, with his fag sex 9th degree ceremony to become a true adept is the great grandaddy of all the neo pagans and wiccans. Notice how many of those pagans and witches quoted above are unnamed or unknown. Neo -Paganism is a jew production and it is faggot loving as all jewed productions are, including Judeo-Christianity of the late 20th Century and on.
In fact, a common teaching is that homos are the true priestly caste - shamans were often homo, etc. You could do a whole list of quotes of this sort from the well known pagans and witches, who are jews and sex perverts themselves.
Yahweh's_Warrior777
09-01-2004, 03:44 PM
[QUOTE=Vlad]Christians Prefer a Faggot Christ
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=8297
Presbyterian Church Approves Faggots
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=7717
Queers For God, God For Queers
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=7813
Evangelical Lutherans Embrace Faggots With A Lusty Passion
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=5186
Ordained Fags In Black, Forgiven and Forgotten
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=7051
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I read a few pages from a book of witchcraft. One of the chapters described sexual incourse techniques. The instruction explicitly stated Man and Woman. It was clean sex techniques - the kind that would spawn a baby, no excrement porn filth in the content at all.[/QUOTE]
Actually you mongol, the penalty in the bible for homosexuality is DEATH.
These churches have been taken over by judaizers and antiChrists.
Antiochus Epiphanes
09-01-2004, 06:02 PM
[QUOTE=Abzug Hoffman]Aleister Crowley, media darling, with his fag sex 9th degree ceremony to become a true adept is the great grandaddy of all the neo pagans and wiccans. Notice how many of those pagans and witches quoted above are unnamed or unknown. Neo -Paganism is a jew production and it is faggot loving as all jewed productions are, including Judeo-Christianity of the late 20th Century and on.
In fact, a common teaching is that homos are the true priestly caste - shamans were often homo, etc. You could do a whole list of quotes of this sort from the well known pagans and witches, who are jews and sex perverts themselves.[/QUOTE]
well Evola is well known, but Evola specifically condemned Newager type hocus pocus as ersatz initiatory organizations. It seems he considered the western intiatic organizations completely vanished. His contemporary Rene Guenon argued with him about this in oblique references I cant decipher but Guenon did become a Sufist.
Still there are many paths to the same ultimate reality and if the pagans have happened upon the truth about homosex, good for them.
sean(doc)martin
09-02-2004, 02:15 AM
[QUOTE=Whirlwind]So christians welcome fags, but pagans don't. Simple enough. AND COMPLETELY OPPOSITE THE WAY I WAS TAUGHT AS A CHILD. That LaVey guy, for all his other weirdness, is not queer. Unlike the elected head of one major christian sect.[/QUOTE]
How about telling the truth about what Christians think of homosexuality?
· SODOMY IS AN ABOMINABLE SIN, WORTHY OF DEATH.
o "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus 20:13. "Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." Romans 1:32.
o See also Leviticus 18:22, Genesis 19, Romans 1:18-32, I Corinthians 6:9-11, I Timothy 1:10, and Jude 7.
· GOD HATES ALL WORKERS OF INIQUITY.
o "The foolish shall not stand in thy sight, thou hatest all workers of iniquity." Psalm 5:5.
o See also Leviticus 20:23, Leviticus 26:30, Deuteronomy 32:19, Psalm 5:6, Psalm 11:5, Malachi 1:3, Matthew 7:23, and Romans 9:13.
· SODOMITES ARE PROUD OF THEIR SIN ("GAY PRIDE"), AND IN THAT PRIDEFUL STATE THEY CANNOT REPENT - YOU CANNOT REPENT OF SOMETHING YOU'RE PROUD OF.
o "Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD." Jeremiah 6:15.
o See also Jeremiah 13:23, Romans 1:24-32, Ezekiel 16:49-50, etc.
· THE SODOMITES' ONLY HOPE IS TO HAVE THE UNAMBIGUOUS TRUTH PREACHED TO THEM, AND PERHAPS GOD WILL SOFTEN THEIR HEARTS AND GRANT THEM REPENTANCE TO DEPART FROM THEIR SIN AND NAME THE NAME OF CHRIST. NOT VERY LIKELY, THOUGH, SINCE GOD HAS GIVEN THEM UP.
o "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity." II Timothy 2:19. "Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness...unto vile affections...to a reprobate mind." Romans 1:24-28.
o See also II Timothy 2:24-26, Psalm 5:5, I Corinthians 6:9-11, Acts 17:30, Jude 22,23, etc.
· THERE IS A HELL WHERE ALL IMPENITENT SINNERS WILL RESIDE FOR ALL ETERNITY. THAT INCLUDES SODOMITES (CALLED "DOGS").
o "And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh." Isaiah 66:24. "For without are dogs..." Revelation 22:15.
o See also Mark 9:44, Luke 16:23, Revelation 20:15.
In summary, sodomites are wicked and sinners before the Lord exceedingly (Gen. 13:13), are violent and doom nations (Gen. 19:1-25; Jgs. 19), are abominable to God (Lev. 18:22), are worthy of death for their vile, depraved, unnatural sex practices (Lev. 20:13; Rom. 1:32), are called dogs because they are filthy, impudent and libidinous (Deut. 23:17,18; Mat. 7:6; Phil. 3:2), produce by their very presence in society a kind of mass intoxication from their wine made from grapes of gall from the vine of Sodom and the fields of Gomorrah which poisons society's mores with the poison of dragons and the cruel venom of asps (Deut. 32:32,33), declare their sin and shame on their countenance (Isa. 3:9), are shameless and unable to blush (Jer. 6:15), are workers of iniquity and hated by God (Psa. 5:5), are liars and murderers (Jn. 8:44), are filthy and lawless (2 Pet. 2:7,8), are natural brute beasts (2 Pet. 2:12), are dogs eating their own vomit and sows wallowing in their own feces (2 Pet. 2:22), will proliferate at the end of the world bringing final judgment on mankind (Lk. 17:28-30), have been finally given up by God to uncleanness dishonoring their own bodies among themselves, to vile affections, and to a reprobate mind such that they cannot think straight about anything (Rom. 1:23-28), have wholly given themselves over to fornication and gone after strange flesh (Jude 7), must be pulled as faggots from the fire (Jude 23), and have no hope of Heaven unless they repent (Rev. 22:15), which they can't do in their prideful state (Jer. 6:15). They need to hear this truth if they are to have any hope of penitence, faith in Jesus Christ and salvation (I Timothy 4:2-4).
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sean(doc)martin
09-02-2004, 03:31 AM
[QUOTE=J.P. Slovjanski]That's all great that it says that in the Bible and all, but it is a known fact that Jews were known to practice all manner of sexual perversion, [/QUOTE]
Yes and the bible condemned them for it.
When the Talmud came along, many of those practices were permitted in writing.
That has nothing to do with Christianity, as we don't follow the Talmud.
sean(doc)martin
09-02-2004, 03:47 AM
[QUOTE=J.P. Slovjanski]You shouldn't follow the Bible either. There are tons of sick things in it.[/QUOTE]
Oh well with you telling me I shouldn't follow it, I think I will just stop being a Christian right now. No one has ever been able to make it clear that I shouldn't follow the bible in the articulate and well thought out way that you have just done.
sean(doc)martin
09-02-2004, 04:44 AM
[QUOTE=J.P. Slovjanski]Do you ever take the time to READ that thing?
Click on the link in this thread.
http://third-reich.net/viewtopic.php?t=826[/QUOTE]
Now really, what do you think? I am a minister and theology was my major in college. The bible was required reading. DUH :p
STORMSOLDAAT
09-02-2004, 10:49 AM
[QUOTE=J.P. Slovjanski]
The Jews of the Bible practiced homosexuality frequently, despite what it says in the Bible. This is no surprise considering their advocacy of anything even remotely perverted.[/QUOTE]
The jews are are sick race and taint everything they touch, look at Hollywood and the rest of the sick world media, pushing Nigger values. As we all know the Nigger and the Jew have no morals they are sick and degenerate!
Now I don't want to hear from any wet fag I LOVE ALL RACES sudo nationalists as you are part of the liberal white vermine that fucks up our racial struggle.
The liberal nationalists are worse than the jews or the Niggers as they know we are fighting for our servival and still want to bend over and be fucked in the ass!
Whirlwind
09-02-2004, 09:26 PM
As far as not following the talmud...The talmud is the written version of oral traditions of jewish sects predating christianity. The old testament is also considered a holy text by the jews. Along comes the new testament and christianity. So, yes, you are following the talmud. Tell me why the jews think the year is 5764, bible scholar!
sean(doc)martin
09-03-2004, 12:54 AM
[QUOTE=Whirlwind]As far as not following the talmud...The talmud is the written version of oral traditions of jewish sects predating christianity. The old testament is also considered a holy text by the jews. Along comes the new testament and christianity. So, yes, you are following the talmud. Tell me why the jews think the year is 5764, bible scholar![/QUOTE]
That has got to be the dumbest logic I have ever heard in my life. Perhaps not the dumbest but close.
Antiochus Epiphanes
09-03-2004, 12:20 PM
[QUOTE=Whirlwind]As far as not following the talmud...The talmud is the written version of oral traditions of jewish sects predating christianity. The old testament is also considered a holy text by the jews. Along comes the new testament and christianity. So, yes, you are following the talmud. Tell me why the jews think the year is 5764, bible scholar![/QUOTE]
Good post, but I would say, close but not quite: the Mishnah is the Jew oral tradition. The Mishnah has sub-parts-- the Torah or Pentateuch, ie the first five books, the rest of the Hebrew Scriptures/ Old Testament, and then the Babylonian Talmud is the commentary of the rabbis on the Hebrew Scriptures starting around the time of the Babylonian Captivity and then going on up to including and after Christ. So the "Judaism" of today, started before Christ, during the first Diaspora, but AFTER the first destruction of the Temple. Christ's criticisms of Pharisees and Scribes to me seems clearly aimed at the Jewish religion developed during the Babylonian captivity. So, while I certainly dont agree with the CI nonsense, there is an ironic truth to the notion that the Babylonian captivity marks a fundamental and historic break in the continuity of "Jewish tradition" where the Jewish cult transformed into a particularly potent and wicked thing.
I think Nietzsche talked about this in "genealogy of morals" also. Except to me, he seemed to admire the Jews for all the bad he said about them, for their exceptional "will to power."
Antiochus Epiphanes
09-03-2004, 12:23 PM
if people are interested in this topic, try the "talmud unmasked" for starters
hoffman has done a reprint that is available off amazon-- also it looks like it's available here:
http://www.neonazi.org/gpage.html
(is this an NA web page or what?)
STORMSOLDAAT
11-03-2004, 05:23 PM
[QUOTE=J.P. Slovjanski]You shouldn't follow the Bible either. There are tons of sick things in it.[/QUOTE]
That's because the bibble is a book written by semites about semites, they are a sick race! Best thing we can do with the semite bibble is shove it back up the semites ass where it came from! :D
Hail Victory, death to the semites!
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