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Nick
09-04-2004, 09:39 PM
North Korea 'bred spies using former US soldiers'

By Damien McElroy

(Filed: 05/09/2004)

An American army sergeant who spent 40 years in North Korea has revealed that the Stalinist state operated a programme to breed spies who could pass themselves off as Westerners.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1035504884784_2002/10/25/26jenkins.jpg

As a part of a plea-bargain with the American military, who want him court-martialled on desertion charges, Charles Jenkins has made the extraordinary claim that other former American soldiers living in North Korea were used to father children who are now operating as spies abroad.

Mr Jenkins disappeared from a guardbox on the Demilitarised Zone dividing Korea in 1965. He is now receiving medical treatment in a Tokyo hospital after being allowed to leave North Korea with his Japanese wife, but faces attempts to extradite him to the United States for trial.

According to testimony which Mr Jenkins will pass to the US, to whom he says he is ready to surrender, North Korean agents abducted women from eastern Europe and the Middle East, to be married to American soldiers in Pyongyang.

In a statement prepared by his American military lawyer, Mr Jenkins said: "In two of the cases, the Americans had multiple children who are now young adults who appear to be American or European."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/05/wnkor05.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/09/05/ixworld.html

Bragi
09-05-2004, 02:02 AM
I was staring at the picture you posted Nick. Trippy. I love those old grainy black and white photos of the white men from yesterdecade, 'suppose.

Someone started a thread about what it means to be tough. Old school white man before the advent of the television defines tough for me. Now the white man is a chariot driving town mouse who learns about reality from the television. The tough guy is a dying breed.

Who needs toughness in this world when every material thing you need to survive is within 500 feet? Sure, there are loads of tough white men in the world, but they're likely in Eastern Europe and other exotic locales.

Sorry, wrong subject.

MOMUS
09-05-2004, 02:48 AM
This may help explain Anima Eternae' presence on this forum.

Nick
09-05-2004, 03:23 AM
[QUOTE=MOMUS]
This may help explain Anima Eternae' presence on this forum.[/QUOTE]
Heh heh


[QUOTE=Bragi]
I was staring at the picture you posted Nick....[/QUOTE]
Yeah, there's tough with your fists tough, which is desirable, but the even more important compliment to that is to be mentally tough. That sounds trite as hell and it is, but there was a time in this country when you were on your own. And I mean on your own. Everybody understood that and conducted themselves accordingly. People had to make their own way and make it without a handout or a program or therapy or counseling. Things were freer then but at the same time the seriousness of keeping a roof over your head and your family fed never left your subconscious. Most everybody had a good time but they knew when it was play time and when it was time to work. You could stay out all Wednesday night knocking back beers if you liked but you had better be goddamn there and ready to work at 06 or 07:00 Thursday morning or you were most likely gonna be out on your ass.

Due to the nigrification of merka though many people don't have to be as responsible anymore. Well, White people do, but there are even social programs that'll keep most White people from starving. The only option they had years ago to keep from starving or freezing to death if they got in a jam were friends, family and church. People cultivated closer relationships then because of that. You don't have to be real tough anymore if all you want to do is get by.

You've probably read Sinclair's The Jungle but if you can manage the time go back and read it again. It's intentionally hyper-dramatic because the author was a fanatic socialist but his sketches of life and what it took to survive in those days are pretty accurate according to some of the old-old timers I've been acquainted with over the years.

MOMUS posted a bio of Stanley Ketchel a while back, 'Kikels in the Woodpile'

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=4573&page=1&highlight=kikels (post #1)

that you'll probably find interesting if you haven't seen it. People really were generally tougher then, and freer, because they were willing to accept more responsibility for their own support and their own destiny. That lack of insurance bred an independent, self-reliant White man because he knew then there was no safety net. People were brought up from an early age to understand they were on their own. If something bad happened to them that's tough luck. They could crawl into a bottle or crawl into a gutter or they could get on with life. It was their choice. But nobody was gonna particularly give a damn whatever they decided to do.