Since that gutless Stalinist Robertson deleted the SF Britain poll on the current leadership challange by John Tyndall. I thought we should post one so as we can all vote on this vital issue - without the Stalinist actions of Jew Tree/Robertson. Please post your reason why YOUR candidate would be the best Leader of the BNP.

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"I believe I can lead the BNP towards that great future, but I cannot do it alone. I need the help of all of those who share my faith in what can and should be done. And I need it now! This means that those who support me should not just wait and quietly place a cross against my name in a coming leadership ballot; they should stand up and be counted without delay . Already I have a fine team of colleagues, ready and able to take things over when the moment comes. But we need more of you." John Tyndall - September 2004 Spearhead

I believe John Tyndall as the founder and first Chairman of the BNP would bring back to the position, honesty, integrity, and true leadership.

I see one 'Griffinite' didn't have the balls to post reasons why he / she voted for the "one eyed wonder". But its typical of the Griffin camp - gutless individuals.

" At the same time, I am opposed to the numerous gimmicks that have been employed by the Griffin leadership to convey an image of 'liberalisation' in the party. I include here; the selection of Jewish candidates (who would not be permitted membership anyway); the featuring of ethnic minority representatives on TV broadcasts made on behalf of the party and as writers of regular columns in party publications; and news items in these publications which might be taken to glorify racial intermarriage and crossbreeding. I oppose these things because they are utterly contrary to our principles as a party of racial nationalism". John Tyndall

Some idiot even used his experience of the RWB as "proof" that everyone supports old one eye. The RWB is a Nick Griffin apreciation society pissup, disguised as a WN do to prop up the attendence.

Very constructive BrightonWNP. Are you saying then that if JT was BNP leader that you'd be pushing for the RWB to be scrapped all together, because in your eyes you see it as an appreciation society pissup?

Because I can tell you that if you go back 5 or 6 years there's at least one person who you regularly talk to who between me and him led the way in encouraging 'Socials' for Nationalist gatherings. Bringing in the families etc. I know some other people in the North that based there BNP group on good old-fashioned local issues, hard work and 'socials' to build one of the most dynamic BNP branches ever seen in Nationalism.

But is all this talk of 'socials' seen as weak and a distraction by you?

On the other hand, a small meeting of real WN's who got together at 5 minutes notice in Leeds, got an entirely different impression. Speekers Pete Rushton, Eddie Morrison and John Tyndall had us mesmorised. I was one of about a hundred people from all over, who will always remember that I was there.

Yes, I was there too. I did what was asked. I did it for the BNP, for Nationalism. Apart from a few others who have been playing good roles in the Spearhead group etc, a lot of people could be doing more, but aren't.

That's all its going to come down to at the end of the day. Who want's the leadership more, and who's team can perform the best. Nothing more and nothing less.

If your concerned about the BNP, how many leaflets have you put out, or will be putting out in the coming year for the BNP? I am not aware of any rule which says you have to be a BNP member to promote the party via leaflet's etc. Before you say it, no, your not doing Griffin's work etc etc, your spreading the word of Nationalism to the public.

I didn't want to have to reply to this but seen as you've called me a wanker in one thread and an idiot in this one I felt I had to respond. I have a truce with other people on public forums. There are reasons for that, the main one is that it doesn't matter who's side your on, we're all Nationalists. If you fail to see that then don't be surprised if all of a sudden other 'comrades' jump ship and your not able to because you've said too much.

No most of what you post is posturing. We in the Tyndall camp as stated quite plainly in my post above do not want ethnics in or around our racial nationalist party. The RWB is a good idea, a family and nationalist get together, we support it. But it seems it is slowly sinking into a Griffin appreciation society piss-up.

This amounst many other things in the party need changing, only through the election of John Tyndall will this happen.

" A particular case in point here has been the treatment of the North West region of the party, in electoral and growth terms its most successful. A very able and well-respected organiser, Chris Jackson, suffered intolerable interference from people at party Headquarters and was driven to resign. His place was taken by a person clearly not up to the job, lacking the confidence and respect of large numbers, and prone to make decisions seemingly calculated to please the Griffin-Lacomber axis rather than to advance the party in the region. The consequence of this is that the level of morale and the rate of activity in the North West of England, which not long ago were very high, have declined depressingly over the part year." John Tyndall

Burnley has also seen Griffin's "intolerable interference"....more of that can be read in Steve Smith's excellent booklet "How it was done".

" Yet at this moment of supreme opportunity our own party is fragmented, beset by bitter internal quarrels and with morale low when it should be sky high. We have a leader who has been calling into question whether the BNP can go on existing as a political party! This need not be." John Tyndall

Our party the British National Party has a great future, even our enemies say so. The tide is turning in favour of racial nationalism......its our future, lets fight for it!

Support John Tyndall for the next Chairman of the British National Party

Vote Tyndall X

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The clock is ticking.....Griffin's days are numbered.

Lets make the British National Party - A white people's party once again!

No most of what you post is posturing. We in the Tyndall camp as stated quite plainly in my post above do not want ethnics in or around our racial nationalist party. The RWB is a good idea, a family and nationalist get together, we support it. But it seems it is slowly sinking into a Griffin appreciation society piss-up.

This amounst many other things in the party need changing, only through the election of John Tyndall will this happen.
As it stands now, that is exactly what the RWB is. But what do you expect when it's run by Griffin's wife and Bev Jones? Anyone with any talent is seen as a threat to Griffin and his toadies and pushed out.

But it seems it is slowly sinking into a Griffin appreciation society piss-up.


Well it was the 2nd year me and many good old comrades travelled up to this event in the North of England, to be charged rippoff prices for tatt!

I can honestlysay hand on heart say after having attended many socials in Flanders, the NL (mainly Voorpost connected) and VJ/WJ Socials in Germany and Flanders, the RWB is nothing in comparisonit is soulless and without real direction of Anglo/Saxon-Celtic heritage and culture. Now many friends just thought it was boring and like some torry wannabe get together.

As for people getting drunk, I can understand why looking at the RWB...

I was working it one yesterday I know 18 comrades some who took their kids who said they will not be travelling up again to the RWB. I know 5 who said they would probably returning but were not impressed again(most had travelled up from the S.E to attend, none of them are BNP memebers some had been to meetings to get tickets for the others or knew a BNP organizer).

I have a friend who goes to BNP meetings and picked 9 tickets no problem (nice bit of money for Griffen) which he will not be getting again. I only know 2 comrades who paid the full £20.

No most of what you post is posturing. We in the Tyndall camp as stated quite plainly in my post above do not want ethnics in or around our racial nationalist party. The RWB is a good idea, a family and nationalist get together, we support it. But it seems it is slowly sinking into a Griffin appreciation society piss-up.

This amounst many other things in the party need changing, only through the election of John Tyndall will this happen.

I wasn't talking to you.

I have no desire to "jump ship". I Have neither joined or promoted the BNP since 2002. On principle I cannot join a fake nationalist party, and that is what they are today. I have not singled you out for any personal critisism in any thread I can think of, unless you post as window cleaner. But if you want to take my remarks about Griffinites as being aimed at you, then there is nothing to say.

Now if you are trying to draw me into some kind of personal argument, then you are wasting your time. As for my saying too much? I always do, and I stand on what I say.

It's not a matter of "jumping ship". I thought we were all Nationalists? Also the BNP is a lot more than just its leader. Its about the rank and file members. You don't want to help them promote Nationalism? Why should the rank and file BNP'ers all of a sudden be thankful to you and others if all they see you doing is ripping in to the BNP all the time?

Trying to draw you in to some kind of personal argument? Eh? Get over yourself m8. I was keeping to the issues, so how is that being personal? It's you who as tried to make things personal by highlighting my name in that poll and calling me a wanker. Then you talk about an idiot at the RWB, very tactful. But I have no desire to make things personal with you or anybody else on this board. Lets keep to the actual issues shall we instead of drifting off in to endless personal attacks against people. VNN as gone down a lot in quality over the past few months. The quality is being lost because of the low debating standard and the high personal school yard verbal fights. If you do support JT then why not try to keep his standards and not get drawn in to petty arguments and keep to the issues?

Just to sort out another myth. Steve Smith's book was sold at a recent BNP meeting in the North despite someone spreading rumours that the book wasn't sold and the sales had been stopped by the organiser. I'll give the person spreading the rumours the benefit of the doubt because I think he just got mixed up. But none the less this rumour needed to be corrected.

Also at the same meeting another good speaker Mr Wentworth made a brilliant speech about the 14 Words.

That's all its going to come down to at the end of the day. Who want's the leadership more, and who's team can perform the best. Nothing more and nothing less.

Actually there are other factors, but does it matter? In terms of who can perform the best I think we will see the outcome of this election decided by that. I may be wrong but I believe that JT is not a foolish man and has called this election knowing that it is likely to come shortly after a GE and that the result of that GE is likely to be the real determining factor in who wins the leadership race, as opossed to what people think at this moment in time. If NG does not perform in the GE then his position as the darling of the party will quickly dissapear and it will come down to issues and the majority of the people, which ever side they appear to be on now, are not in favour of the watered down bullshit that has been served up in recent times, many have suffered it because they think it might bring results, but if it doesn't then it will be the downfall of NG. As for the result at the next GE it should be clear to most that we are not riding as high as many people would have us believe, although 800,000 was polled at the recent elections a lot of those were protest votes against the policies of the major parties over europe, these will not be issues at a GE, so although the majority of this nation is riding high on a growing tide of nationalism we will probably see a piss poor vote at the election. What is going to be acceptable? 700,000? I doubt we will see that. 600,000? I don't even think we will see that. 500,000? No, I don't think it will be as high as that, I think we are going to see over 50% of the gains in recent elections wiped out before our very eyes, even though right now we are faced with a public who are more nationalistic than at any other time in history, realistically, if we were to stand in every seat, anything less than 900,000 should be classed as failure right now, however I predict we will be closer to 90,000 than 900,000. yep, I think we will be that bad, and we will be that bad because, just as in 1979, we will be swamped by the shadow of a resurgent and more right wing conservative party that will talk tough on crime, immigration and political corectness at a time when we are talking bollocks through fear of sounding like a nazi party. We are going to crash and burn as NG uses the same populist bullshit that has been tried and has failed in the past and then what do you think the outcome will be of any leadership challange? JT is no mug, he knows all this, that is why the chances of him winning grow day by day. Right now, if a vote were held today, he would probably lose about 65% to 35%, but there is no election today, and by the time disgruntled members have quit the party over griffins election fiasco and older members have seen the light and want to move back to proper policies I think you will find that the pendulum will have swung back in favour of JT.

Actually there are other factors, but does it matter? In terms of who can perform the best I think we will see the outcome of this election decided by that. I may be wrong but I believe that JT is not a foolish man and has called this election knowing that it is likely to come shortly after a GE and that the result of that GE is likely to be the real determining factor in who wins the leadership race, as opossed to what people think at this moment in time. If NG does not perform in the GE then his position as the darling of the party will quickly dissapear and it will come down to issues and the majority of the people, which ever side they appear to be on now, are not in favour of the watered down bullshit that has been served up in recent times, many have suffered it because they think it might bring results, but if it doesn't then it will be the downfall of NG. As for the result at the next GE it should be clear to most that we are not riding as high as many people would have us believe, although 800,000 was polled at the recent elections a lot of those were protest votes against the policies of the major parties over europe, these will not be issues at a GE, so although the majority of this nation is riding high on a growing tide of nationalism we will probably see a piss poor vote at the election. What is going to be acceptable? 700,000? I doubt we will see that. 600,000? I don't even think we will see that. 500,000? No, I don't think it will be as high as that, I think we are going to see over 50% of the gains in recent elections wiped out before our very eyes, even though right now we are faced with a public who are more nationalistic than at any other time in history, realistically, if we were to stand in every seat, anything less than 900,000 should be classed as failure right now, however I predict we will be closer to 90,000 than 900,000. yep, I think we will be that bad, and we will be that bad because, just as in 1979, we will be swamped by the shadow of a resurgent and more right wing conservative party that will talk tough on crime, immigration and political corectness at a time when we are talking bollocks through fear of sounding like a nazi party. We are going to crash and burn as NG uses the same populist bullshit that has been tried and has failed in the past and then what do you think the outcome will be of any leadership challange? JT is no mug, he knows all this, that is why the chances of him winning grow day by day. Right now, if a vote were held today, he would probably lose about 65% to 35%, but there is no election today, and by the time disgruntled members have quit the party over griffins election fiasco and older members have seen the light and want to move back to proper policies I think you will find that the pendulum will have swung back in favour of JT.

I don't care who wins as long as the Jew lovin Griffenite sellout liberals loose their positions in the BNP and we can start to see the BNP move back to being a real WN Party.

"Britain stands at the threshold of tremendous poltical events. The long-awaited popular backlash against immigration, the EU, political correctness and other evils is getting stronger every day. The mainstream parties are utterly discredited. In elections nowadays even minor nationalist parties, with a fraction of the resources of the BNP, are winning votes that would have been beyond their wildest dreams of just a few years ago. The future for nationalism is greater than ever". John Tyndall

The British people now need leadership, they now truly need a racial nationalist party to join and fight with. Not a party which is full of muddle, which changes policy at the drop of the hat. The British people need a party that stands for something, is dedicated, and will lead them to eventual racial salvation.

Why should the rank and file BNP'ers all of a sudden be thankful to you and others if all they see you doing is ripping in to the BNP all the time?

Appears that some don't like attacks on Griffins balls -ups.

Just to sort out another myth. Steve Smith's book was sold at a recent BNP meeting in the North despite someone spreading rumours that the book wasn't sold and the sales had been stopped by the organiser. I'll give the person spreading the rumours the benefit of the doubt because I think he just got mixed up. But none the less this rumour needed to be corrected.


Seems like the 'Organiser' has got in first here. 'Sweetie' selling books ? Do us a favour, that guy is never going to spend money full stop. So to buy 5 copies in the hope he could sell them ? They were not on 'open sale' until the Organiser had read a free copy. In case he got into 'hot water' again.

Also, this issue was only mentioned in a 'private' members only group.


Also at the same meeting another good speaker Mr Wentworth made a brilliant speech about the 14 Words.[/QUOTE]


Mr.Griffin banned extremist statements such as 14 words !

Mr.Griffin banned extremist statements such as 14 words !

That sort of sums up the new Griffen direction for the BNP! :mad:

" The decision to make a major commitment of party resources to the contesting of the Euro Elections proved a disaster. I do not believe that the BNP should involve itself anymore in elections of this type for the foreseeable future." John Tyndall

it is vital we use ALL the resources of the party to contest as many winnable seats at local council elections as possible. The impact of racial nationalists being elected to local councils up and down the country would have a dramatic effect on the British people. The more elected local councillors we get the faster we get into Parliament.

Also at the same meeting another good speaker Mr Wentworth made a brilliant speech about the 14 Words.
He's marked for expulsion then.

Also at the same meeting another good speaker Mr Wentworth made a brilliant speech about the 14 Words.

A whole speech about 'The 14 words'?.
Dont the '14 words' standby themselves and who needs them to be explained by a whole speech?.

Seems like a bad sign that the political bureaucracy is creeping in ?:

eg:
Trad. version of 'The Lords Prayer" = 'only 100+ words'.

European Union Directive on packing Hens Eggs = 'only 24,000+ words'.

The 14 words = 'A whole speech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'

'The 14 Words' do not need a speech. They only need fourteen words.
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Seems like the 'Organiser' has got in first here. 'Sweetie' selling books ? Do us a favour, that guy is never going to spend money full stop. So to buy 5 copies in the hope he could sell them ? They were not on 'open sale' until the Organiser had read a free copy. In case he got into 'hot water' again.

Also, this issue was only mentioned in a 'private' members only group.

Mr.Griffin banned extremist statements such as 14 words !


The Organiser did NOT stop the sale of Steve Smith's book. He didn't refuse to sell it at ANYTIME. This is another lie / rumour sent out by the enemies of the BNP (note I say the BNP and not Griffin himself).

We also have this silly position where a BNP member (the rank and file) makes an excellent speech about the 14 Words, a speech which should have been welcomed by this forum, is condemned. It seems even the rank and file can't do anything to please you guys. If that's the case then you'll ALL against the BNP no matter who the leader is, because you've taken that next step of slamming a sucker punch in the BNP's guts which will only damage your 'Outsider' relationship with BNP Members.

What a constructive way to help JT get elected! You guys are doing more damage than good! You've split the JT camp and are now happy to attack BNP members no matter what they do!

I don't really know what to say to you anymore EW, that is why I left the groups. It saddens me to read your Griffinesque messages, it really does. But you made your choice, and don't tell me you chose in favour of nationalism. YOU chose in favour of Nick Griffin.

There is nothing I can do about Griffin from within the WNP, except to keep this board as actively against him and his clones the best I can, and hit back as hard as possible against the WANKERS at Stormfront.

You don't like that? Eh? You get over yourself, m8.

Well apparently you have enough to say to call me a wanker and an idiot.

What does Griffinesque mean by the way? That's a new one.

I don't have any problem with the WNP or you as a Nationalist. I thought the WNP would be disolving if JT got re-elected as BNP leader and most WNP'ers would be joining the BNP ranks? This isn't the case now?

If the WNP are to be their own seperate movement in Nationalism then get on with it and stop attacking the BNP. Nationalism is big enough to have many brands and styles.

80% of the posts from WNP'ers or other anti-Griffin people on here are always attacking the BNP. Take a look out of your window on the world and see we have a bigger problem than 'Griffin' , 'Selling out' (or any other term you use)... its called Islam.

If we are on the back foot against Islam they aren't going to say to one another "Oh he's a sell-out and he's an hard-liner". They'll cut both of our heads off! We're the same to them. You disagree with the BNP direction, fair enough, but look at the ratio of posts you make attacking the BNP compared to posts about the dire situation in the country.

I never thought I would find myself saying this to you. But you are full of shit. the country is in a mess, this is true. There is a tremendous problem with mudslims, not that they can be seen out of my window. Different parts of the country have different problems. South London is full of niggers, North London is full of Jews, Brighton is full of faggots. So why don't we all get up on our hind fuckin legs, and support a nationalist party, who have a bisexual chairman, who already have Jew members at least one of whom is an elected councilor, and have been trying to force the exceptence of non white members upon its rank and file.

I'll give you a clue what you can do with Nick Griffin's BNP, no I'll tell you straight. Stick it up your arse.

I agree with you, I like ALL of my comrades will not support (let alone join a party like the new sellout BNP). We would not be welcome anyway!

Many of you "I want the man in the street to love us nationalists" say fuck the B&H(other name I will not post) hardliners and it's neo-nazi extremists we don't need "nazi thugs" like them. Wait till the chips are down and try turning to you fags, jew and torry wanabees (please don't hit me I have money, here's my wallet) in a fight... :D

If the coons and Mudslims deside to attack your boys they will be shitting thier frilly Knickers with no one to run to for help....

When the chips where down in Bradford who sent reenforments? Not Griffens BNP!

None of us will raise a finger to help Griffen or his sellouts why should we? It was made clear at the liberal RWB we were not welcome... So hey, fight your own battles, we will just watch and listen and take note of who the sellouts are who are betraying the WN movement as a whole.

The big joke to us is that Griffenite tosser who thinks he's the link between B&H and the BNP, don't make me laugh the guys call him a wimp and clown. It's funny to hear what my comrades say about him!!! Who say nationalism isn't fun with clowns like him around.....

So I'm going to let you lads slog this one out between yourselves. :(
This evening I just got 2500 more leaflets delivered to me from my Swiss party.

The only slogging I'll be doing is the streets where I live. ;)

So I'm going to let you lads slog this one out between yourselves. :(
This evening I just got 2500 more leaflets delivered to me from my Swiss party.

The only slogging I'll be doing is the streets where I live.

Good luck comrade,

It's a hard situation with this UK nationalist crap at the moment, as you know there is a sellout faction in control of the BNP run by a man of little principle other than the gaining of money.

This situation is not good for WN in the UK, as Griffen spends much of his time slagging other WN off and calling us extremists and or thugs (so he can look like the good guy)!

We used to always try to put our differneces aside for the good of WN as a whole, but with Griffen we can not stand by as he destroys everything for an easy ride and a fast buck (sheckle)!

This situation stinks... :mad:

80% of the posts from WNP'ers or other anti-Griffin people on here are always attacking the BNP. Take a look out of your window on the world and see we have a bigger problem than 'Griffin' , 'Selling out' (or any other term you use)... its called Islam.

If we are on the back foot against Islam they aren't going to say to one another "Oh he's a sell-out and he's an hard-liner". They'll cut both of our heads off! We're the same to them. You disagree with the BNP direction, fair enough, but look at the ratio of posts you make attacking the BNP compared to posts about the dire situation in the country.

All non-whites ARE the problem. To target just Islam is silly and will come back and bite the party in the arse eventually.

" I have always been opposed to the current policy of Mr. Griffin of singling out Islam as a special enemy of Britain and concentraing most of the party's fire on that religious creed, rather than dealing with the overall threat of multi-racialism to our country, of which immigrant groups happening to adhere to the Islamic faith are only a part"............

Mr Griffin claims that we are menaced by militant Islamic imperialism. I contend that by far the greatest menace is the imperialism of Zionism. " John Tyndall

All non-whites ARE the problem. To target just Islam is silly and will come back and bite the party in the arse eventually.

It isn't us who have targetted Islam, its Islam who as targetted us.

Griffen

Is there a reason you keep spelling Griffin's name with an 'e'?

It isn't us who have targetted Islam, its Islam who as targetted us.


And why exactly has islam targetted us, could it be because we support the jew who is trying to wipe them off the face of the planet, so what do we do to solve this problem, we invite jews into our midst and tell the world the jew is ok. now is that really the solution? yes islam is a problem, but it's only one of a number of problems we are facing and to be honest with the policy we are following we are only making the situation worse. how is supporting the jew going to end the threat of islam, or is it, in reality, just going to get us even more bombed?

So why don't we all get up on our hind fuckin legs, and support a nationalist party, who have a bisexual chairman, who already have Jew members at least one of whom is an elected councilor, and have been trying to force the exceptence of non white members upon its rank and file.

I'll give you a clue what you can do with Nick Griffin's BNP, no I'll tell you straight. Stick it up your arse.

But this is what JT wants people to do through-out all this. Support the BNP. The easy option for everyone (in the short-term) is to destroy the current BNP and create another one in its place, or maybe the WNP could be the replacement. But that's not what JT wants, nor any true Nationalist.

I'm trying to have a proper debate here (its a forum!) but you just don't seem interested. Part of a debate is that we actually discuss things. Not start calling each other names!

What a constructive way to help JT get elected! You guys are doing more damage than good! You've split the JT camp and are now happy to attack BNP members no matter what they do!

the party was split by letting jews and niggers and turks in, not by anyone here, the party was split by turning its back on the basic policies of nationalism, not by anyone here, the party was split by calls to open the membership to everyone, not by anyone here, the party was split by softening policies to please one or two people with chequebooks, not by anyone here, the party was split by ditching it's policy on repatriation, not by anyone here. You keep saying that the people here are attacking the party, they are not, the people who are splitting the party are the ones doing the damage, everyone else is trying to save the party. Which side are you on?

And why exactly has islam targetted us, could it be because we support the jew who is trying to wipe them off the face of the planet, so what do we do to solve this problem, we invite jews into our midst and tell the world the jew is ok. now is that really the solution?

Well said! I could not have said it better myself. :D

And why exactly has islam targetted us, could it be because we support the jew who is trying to wipe them off the face of the planet, so what do we do to solve this problem, we invite jews into our midst and tell the world the jew is ok. now is that really the solution? yes islam is a problem, but it's only one of a number of problems we are facing and to be honest with the policy we are following we are only making the situation worse. how is supporting the jew going to end the threat of islam, or is it, in reality, just going to get us even more bombed?

Its not a time to pick sides (i.e. the Jewish or Islamic sides). We are OUR OWN PEOPLE and have to make choices which will benefit us most. Yes there are a number of problems. But we have to deal with the one which is directly attacking us first. The Blacks and Asians raping our young kids etc. I'm not dismissing the 'Jewish Issue', but that's an issue for tomorrow. In an area with a high Muslim population (like Oldham, Burnley, Birmingham etc), if you was to produce a leaflet what ethnic group would it be targeting?? Would it be targetted at Jews?? Do you think you'd get a lot of support against Jews whilst Asian gangs are roaming around attacking white kids?

Its not a time to pick sides (i.e. the Jewish or Islamic sides). We are OUR OWN PEOPLE and have to make choices which will benefit us most. Yes there are a number of problems. But we have to deal with the one which is directly attacking us first. The Blacks and Asians raping our young kids etc. I'm not dismissing the 'Jewish Issue', but that's an issue for tomorrow. In an area with a high Muslim population (like Oldham, Burnley, Birmingham etc), if you was to produce a leaflet what ethnic group would it be targeting?? Would it be targetted at Jews?? Do you think you'd get a lot of support against Jews whilst Asian gangs are roaming around attacking white kids?

first you ignore the fact that we are inviting the muslim to attack us by siding with the jew, our first mistake, secondly how much of the population lives in birmingham, burnley and oldham? 2%? so that won't get us power, now try handing out your anti-islam flyer in north london, or west london, or parts of bristol, or parts of cardiff, or parts of nottingham, or parts of glasgow, or parts of manchester and see how you get laughed out of town. you can't run your whole campaign on the same note because it works in a tiny proportion of the country, that's common sense. it's a stupid policy and everyone can see that, we are inviting terrorist attacks on this country and trying to stop it by targettig the votes in 2% of the country, wow, that's really going to win us power isn't it?

The Organiser did NOT stop the sale of Steve Smith's book. He didn't refuse to sell it at ANYTIME. This is another lie / rumour sent out by the enemies of the BNP (note I say the BNP and not Griffin himself).

I have a further update on this situation. A posting from a person close to Burnley BNP and Steve Smith as confirmed that a misunderstanding took place and that SS and the Burnley lot thought that the organiser had refused to sell SS's book at the Rochdale BNP meeting. They now realise that that was not the case and thus are going to kick the 'arse' of persons causing the misunderstanding :p

I hope the person who brought that 'rumour' to the forum will now double check his sources before he uses 'tidbits' of information to smear a BNP organiser, especially one who is as hard working at the Rochdale BNP one is.

I hope the person who brought that 'rumour' to the forum will now double check his sources before he uses 'tidbits' of information to smear a BNP organiser, especially one who is as hard working at the Rochdale BNP one is.[/QUOTE]


Some of us also might want to check some of the nonsense and made up stuff they send to this person via pvt e-mail too !

Its not a time to pick sides (i.e. the Jewish or Islamic sides). We are OUR OWN PEOPLE and have to make choices which will benefit us most. Yes there are a number of problems. But we have to deal with the one which is directly attacking us first. The Blacks and Asians raping our young kids etc. I'm not dismissing the 'Jewish Issue', but that's an issue for tomorrow. In an area with a high Muslim population (like Oldham, Burnley, Birmingham etc), if you was to produce a leaflet what ethnic group would it be targeting?? Would it be targetted at Jews?? Do you think you'd get a lot of support against Jews whilst Asian gangs are roaming around attacking white kids?


i'll give you a further point about your whole warped muslim policy, in the june elections we picked up 6% of the vote and we now have 1% of the seats, how come 6% of the vote only gets us 1% of the seats, I'll tell you why, because the spread of votes was disproportional, in the areas where the muslim policy is relevent we get very high votes, in the rest of the country we get fucking laughed at. in the last 5 years there has been race related rioting in oxfordshire, how many votes has the bnp got there? there has been race related rioting in parts of bristol, how many votes has the bnp got there? there has been race related rioting in peterborough, how many votes has the bnp got there? we shouldn't have 22 councillors, we should have 88, everyone of those trouble spots should have been a new burnley for us, but the leadership fucked it up, not the post service, not ukip, not JTs supporters or old mother hubbard but the bnp, that's who fucked it up, they tried to push a totaly irrelevant policy on the area and people, who were screaming for nationalist representation because they had genuine race issues in there area, issues that had spilled into violence, turned their back on the bnp because the leadership of the party had failed them. can't you see it? do you think the whole of this country is identical to burnley or birmingham? we can't concentrate on one limited problem at the detriment of the bigger picture, especially when we are stirring the shit on that problem by allowing the enemy of the muslim into our party.

It isn't us who have targetted Islam, its Islam who as targetted us.

And why pray tell has Islam 'tragetted' us ? Its not because we are on his land in the middle east? That we have become stooges for the Zionist state of Israel ? That we send our soldiers to fight for Jewish interests in that part of the globe? To defend Israel's eastern border? Thats why we have become tragets. The presence of 'Islamists' in our country is of secondary nature, all non-white immigrants need to be repatriated forthwith. To single our Islam, is Griffin's clever way of keeping just a little bit of 'salt in the soup'.

I hate to remind you that we were bombed by the IRA for 30 years, nothing these Islamic terrorists do that even come close to matching that record. To state that we must combat Islam because they want to 'take-over' Britain and the west and turn it into an Islamic conclave, is overstatement to the extreme. The White people of Britain would never let that happen, they would of awoke long before the Mullah's enters 10 Downing Street.

i'll give you a further point about your whole warped muslim policy, in the june elections we picked up 6% of the vote and we now have 1% of the seats, how come 6% of the vote only gets us 1% of the seats, I'll tell you why, because the spread of votes was disproportional, in the areas where the muslim policy is relevent we get very high votes, in the rest of the country we get fucking laughed at. in the last 5 years there has been race related rioting in oxfordshire, how many votes has the bnp got there? there has been race related rioting in parts of bristol, how many votes has the bnp got there? there has been race related rioting in peterborough, how many votes has the bnp got there? we shouldn't have 22 councillors, we should have 88, everyone of those trouble spots should have been a new burnley for us, but the leadership fucked it up, not the post service, not ukip, not JTs supporters or old mother hubbard but the bnp, that's who fucked it up, they tried to push a totaly irrelevant policy on the area and people, who were screaming for nationalist representation because they had genuine race issues in there area, issues that had spilled into violence, turned their back on the bnp because the leadership of the party had failed them. can't you see it? do you think the whole of this country is identical to burnley or birmingham? we can't concentrate on one limited problem at the detriment of the bigger picture, especially when we are stirring the shit on that problem by allowing the enemy of the muslim into our party.

Where I live, I can often go days without seeing a full coon. More often I see some slag who has produced a half breed nigger. Don't often see the nigger that created the thing.

Where i live most of the people have some money others are rich by most peoples standards, Asians what asians? Oh yes, in a restraunt you'll find some Indians, in a late night pizza place like in Stowmarket. Taxi drivers, no 99% are white.

Bradford looks and feels like a world away, I have been to Bradford, Rochdale & even Burnley so I have an idea of what the situation is in those areas, an idea!

I live in a quite white middle class area, so does my brother and my parents, infact all my family. We see as I say some coons IF we go into Ipswich (which we don't visit as it's a shithole). And yes if we go up to Peterborough we'd see loads of coons, but who travels up there?

Look in much of the South things are different (at this moment in time) no point going on to much about the Pakis rioting somewhere in the North of the country that most people down here will not even have heard of. It just is not an issue here yet (we the WN know it should be but...)

Asilum seekers are the big issue here mostly from South East Europe, people here say those DARK SKINNED BUGGERS and cheap labours from Spain and portugual MORE DARK SKINNED BUGGERS taking our jobs (they work on farms cheaper than locals do).



You can not have a one size fits all solution and the minute you let Jews and other none whites into the BNP, the BNP fails to be anything to do with real WN!

What does Griffinesque mean by the way?
Dishonesty, doubledealing, and doublethink.

Where I live, I can often go days without seeing a full coon. More often I see some slag who has produced a half breed nigger. Don't often see the nigger that created the thing.

Where i live most of the people have some money others are rich by most peoples standards, Asians what asians? Oh yes, in a restraunt you'll find some Indians, in a late night pizza place like in Stowmarket. Taxi drivers, no 99% are white.

Bradford looks and feels like a world away, I have been to Bradford, Rochdale & even Burnley so I have an idea of what the situation is in those areas, an idea!

I live in a quite white middle class area, so does my brother and my parents, infact all my family. We see as I say some coons IF we go into Ipswich (which we don't visit as it's a shithole). And yes if we go up to Peterborough we'd see loads of coons, but who travels up there?

Look in much of the South things are different (at this moment in time) no point going on to much about the Pakis rioting somewhere in the North of the country that most people down here will not even have heard of. It just is not an issue here yet (we the WN know it should be but...)

Asilum seekers are the big issue here mostly from South East Europe, people here say those DARK SKINNED BUGGERS and cheap labours from Spain and portugual MORE DARK SKINNED BUGGERS taking our jobs (they work on farms cheaper than locals do).



You can not have a one size fits all solution and the minute you let Jews and other none whites into the BNP, the BNP fails to be anything to do with real WN!


exactly, each area has it's own problems and they are all different, the people of most places in this country are not going to vote for the bnp because of something happening in burnley that they don't even know about. by the way is stowmarket near bury st edmonds? if it is I've been there before because I used to go out with a skinhead from bury and he had friends in a place near by called stowmarket, there used to be quite a tough NF following around those parts, there's some real hard cases around there.

exactly, each area has it's own problems and they are all different, the people of most places in this country are not going to vote for the bnp because of something happening in burnley that they don't even know about. by the way is stowmarket near bury st edmonds? if it is I've been there before because I used to go out with a skinhead from bury and he had friends in a place near by called stowmarket, there used to be quite a tough NF following around those parts, there's some real hard cases around there.

There still are. :) There are a fair few of us (many ex NF), most now tied in with B&H. We are still pretty much all in regular contact in one way or another, its nice to see the guys have'nt given up. They will say the same about me I hope. Stowmarket is not far from Ipswich so people there are a little more aware of the immergrant problem, the NEW & OLD DARK SKINNED BUGGERS than say in Bury. I know some good guys in Peterborough and Nottingham (ex NF and BM tied in with B&H also).

The old boys will tell you they grow em big and tough round here... I still think that most of the weakling are thrown in the compost heap to rot round here!

Life is pretty slow and the villages are nice, loads of nice English Market towns around here. Houses with thatched rooves (that are not going to much use when the subhumans start rioting here, the houses will just burn to the ground). They never built the houses here with the niggers in mind...

And the price of thatch and it's all imported these days.....

I recommed a trip to Newmarket races a great day out!

i'll give you a further point about your whole warped muslim policy, in the june elections we picked up 6% of the vote and we now have 1% of the seats, how come 6% of the vote only gets us 1% of the seats, I'll tell you why, because the spread of votes was disproportional, in the areas where the muslim policy is relevent we get very high votes, in the rest of the country we get fucking laughed at. in the last 5 years there has been race related rioting in oxfordshire, how many votes has the bnp got there? there has been race related rioting in parts of bristol, how many votes has the bnp got there? there has been race related rioting in peterborough, how many votes has the bnp got there? we shouldn't have 22 councillors, we should have 88, everyone of those trouble spots should have been a new burnley for us, but the leadership fucked it up, not the post service, not ukip, not JTs supporters or old mother hubbard but the bnp, that's who fucked it up, they tried to push a totaly irrelevant policy on the area and people, who were screaming for nationalist representation because they had genuine race issues in there area, issues that had spilled into violence, turned their back on the bnp because the leadership of the party had failed them. can't you see it? do you think the whole of this country is identical to burnley or birmingham? we can't concentrate on one limited problem at the detriment of the bigger picture, especially when we are stirring the shit on that problem by allowing the enemy of the muslim into our party.

So, your response is to produce leaflets about the 'Jewish Threat' as well?? How's that going to be helpful? That was the question we was talking about. I was saying we should lean to the Muslim problem because it directly effects us, whilst you said that was wrong and we should concentrated on the Jewish problem more.

So, your response is to produce leaflets about the 'Jewish Threat' as well?? How's that going to be helpful? That was the question we was talking about. I was saying we should lean to the Muslim problem because it directly effects us, whilst you said that was wrong and we should concentrated on the Jewish problem more.


Who have you been talking to? I've noticed this new trend to say that everyone who oposses the one policy islam thing is jew obsessed, but I didn't say we should concentrate only on the jew. Whoever is telling you that is leading you, and the others who think everyone who isn't short sighted is jew obsessed, down the garden path. I'm saying we shouldn't be over reliant on the muslim problem, it's not working in most of the country, I've laid the facts out for you above, it's a proven state of affiars, of course if we relied solely on the jewish question then people would find similar results, what people are saying is that the jew is the root of all our problems, which is true, so we shouldn't pretend differently, but that doesn't mean we lead with the jew issue everywhere, what we do is we lead with the relevent issues of each and every area, and then when we bring people into the party we slowly start to educate them on the real causes of the problem, we can't do that if we are being myopic and only seeing islam as the problem, even when it isn't relevent to the area we are in, and when we allow jews into the party and arn't allowed to mention the j word through fear of offending members. It is all so obvious that I'm amazed you're not grasping it. I'm not trying to fight you here, I don't even know you, I'm just trying to explain, with facts, that we have a screwed up policy that isn't working, it's costing us thousands of votes in bristol, peterborough, london, oxford and other places and we can't even educate those that join the movement as we are selling out on the key issues, now that's a long way from this vision of the jew obsessed isn't it? Start thinking about it, what works best for us, to run a nationwide campaign centred on the issues of a small area that most people don't know about and don't care about or ditch this bullshit and run a campaign that deals with all the issues faced and all the issues relevent to the voters in each and every area and then when we have people join the party, to take the opportunity to educate them about the real causes of our problems? Which way do you think is really best? What you've been told or what the facts say? which way do you think is really best, the blindingly obvious truth, that people will thank you for, or the bullshit and spin that has been tried by the nationalist movement in the past at great cost?

So, your response is to produce leaflets about the 'Jewish Threat' as well?? How's that going to be helpful? That was the question we was talking about. I was saying we should lean to the Muslim problem because it directly effects us, whilst you said that was wrong and we should concentrated on the Jewish problem more.

What Muslim problems in East Anglia or the South West first I have heard of it! When was the last Muslim riot in Bath or Yoevil, not herd of one in Norfolk, Suffolk, Northhamptonshire or EVEN Essex???

Have these cunning Asians been rioting at night! I did see a broken bus shelter the other day! Was that the result of those bloody Asians rioting through our sleepy village?

Damm those Asians, Wait till I tell everyone whats been happening under our very noses!!! :p

Stories about the Asians scum in the North are not going to scare people here (they should, but...)

I told you what local people here care about already and once and for all its not Asians in Bradford or Burnly! Just wanting them to care will not make them care, it does not directly effect their lives (YET)!

Just concentrating on the Mudslum problem is what Nick Boy wants....its an immigration problem DUH !! BUt thats what Nicky wants, a little 'salt in his soup'.

" Two features have characterised the BNP under Nick Griffin's leadership which are interrelated. There have been many signs that appointments to positions of responsibility in the party have been decided not on merit but on subervience. I have seen people promoted to senior posts who bring with them very inadequate qualifications while others, more qualified, have been passed over or, as in some cases driven out. It seems Mr. Griffin wants to be surrounded by people who share his desire for an ideologically neutered BNP and who will seldom, if ever, argue with him, rather than by those of strong convictions and independent minds." John Tyndall

For too long 'toadyism' has took control of the BNP, it has got to change.

" The accounting system as it has been defended, against much criticism within the party, as being neccessary to comply with the Electoral Commission's rulings. And yet despite all this that has not been achieved.! Another area in which Iam determind to see change is the presently grossly inflated payroll whereby some thirty-plus people in the party are currently receiving some kind of financial emoluments for their services." John Tyndall

Its time to stop the moochers and smoochers inside the party, downsize the over inflated higher level. Those at the top who the rank and file membership pay by means of a salary, need now to be accountable to that same membership.

Its time to stop the moochers and smoochers inside the party, downsize the over inflated higher level. Those at the top who the rank and file membership pay by means of a salary, need now to be accountable to that same membership.

It seems the words commitment & principles have been replaced by the words A GOOD LITTLE EARNER! This is not the lib/lab/Con party we in the WN movement are supposed to be better (more commited) than them. The new BNP is a place where many expect to make a few quid and steal as much as they can as an extra.

It used to be about doing what is right and costing money (sacrifices, time, money and more) the membership/Activists still pay their money and slog it out door to door etc. BUT now there are those at the top who just reap the benifit and spend their time trying to sellout more WN principles (How can we sell this shit to the membership?) so that they can reap yet more benifits and acceptance in the dirty world of mainstream politics(many seem just to want a well paid easy life and to hell with true WN). :mad:

Who have you been talking to? I've noticed this new trend to say that everyone who oposses the one policy islam thing is jew obsessed, but I didn't say we should concentrate only on the jew. Whoever is telling you that is leading you, and the others who think everyone who isn't short sighted is jew obsessed, down the garden path. I'm saying we shouldn't be over reliant on the muslim problem, it's not working in most of the country, I've laid the facts out for you above, it's a proven state of affiars, of course if we relied solely on the jewish question then people would find similar results, what people are saying is that the jew is the root of all our problems, which is true, so we shouldn't pretend differently, but that doesn't mean we lead with the jew issue everywhere, what we do is we lead with the relevent issues of each and every area, and then when we bring people into the party we slowly start to educate them on the real causes of the problem, we can't do that if we are being myopic and only seeing islam as the problem, even when it isn't relevent to the area we are in, and when we allow jews into the party and arn't allowed to mention the j word through fear of offending members. It is all so obvious that I'm amazed you're not grasping it. I'm not trying to fight you here, I don't even know you, I'm just trying to explain, with facts, that we have a screwed up policy that isn't working, it's costing us thousands of votes in bristol, peterborough, london, oxford and other places and we can't even educate those that join the movement as we are selling out on the key issues, now that's a long way from this vision of the jew obsessed isn't it? Start thinking about it, what works best for us, to run a nationwide campaign centred on the issues of a small area that most people don't know about and don't care about or ditch this bullshit and run a campaign that deals with all the issues faced and all the issues relevent to the voters in each and every area and then when we have people join the party, to take the opportunity to educate them about the real causes of our problems? Which way do you think is really best? What you've been told or what the facts say? which way do you think is really best, the blindingly obvious truth, that people will thank you for, or the bullshit and spin that has been tried by the nationalist movement in the past at great cost?

Tara, I'm not trying to fight you either. I'm not saying that we should be obsessed by EITHER the Islamic or Jewish issues, but one of these issues will be in the background when campaigning. Of course the policy should be (and still is as far as I know) that of immigration etc. But the trouble is Nationalists aren't anti-Immigrant! That's what the Left try to say, but if you was in charge of Immigration policy would you allow 10,000 South African White's to emigrate here (to Britain)? I am thinking the answer is Yes. At the end of the day being White is just the dressing, its people who are from your background, which whether you are a practicing Christian / Pagan or whatever you live in a Christian (Judeo- ?? :) ) society and people who you feel are like minded will also be living in the same conditions as you. But if 10,000 Arabs wanted to come to Britain, would you stop them?? Because of the colour of their skin?? Nah, because they are Muslim more likely, a different culture.

All I am saying is that BOTH issues are valid. But the first background issues needs to be Islam. The Jewish issue isn't relevent ANYWHERE in Britain.

I also find it odd that people who are saying "we shouldn't attack a religion" are the same people who are using a religion, being Jewish, in branding another people.

Do we have one rule for each people or something? The public won't take any of it in. Unfortunately (and neither of us control this) groups who don't modernise their image and drop foreign symbols will get no where in British Nationalism.

The reason why I like Nationalism as an ideology is because its one of the few which doesn't seek to push an un-natural state on the people. It recognises that WE DON'T CONTROL WHAT THE PEOPLE THINK. That attempting to impose an ideology on a people doesn't work in the long term. When Nationalism eventually comes to power, and it WILL DO, we need 100% of the people behind it whether in thoughts or actions. In order to do this we can't, even though the temptation is there, push our own agenda, pick our own enemy etc. We can only use the issues of the day, at least at first (we can educate them once they join our ranks). The whole process is a steady path. Flashing swastika's around and all sticking our right-arm out isn't going to attract the British people to us when they don't understand much about either the salute nor the symbols. So, if we know that why do some keep doing it? They must know it's going to get us no where, except in to frightening the British people, who don't like accepting change anyway. So, why do it??

These people who have a go at Nationalists in suits. Again WE DON'T CONTROL THE GAME RULES, if it means getting our message heard and listened to by more people then why not do it. Why is wearing the Swaskita more important than actually getting heard by British people??

Before anyone thinks, "oh he's a lefty" or something silly like that then don't. These are proper points and need facing by British persons still right-arming it and wearing foreign insignia.

Tara, I'm not trying to fight you either. I'm not saying that we should be obsessed by EITHER the Islamic or Jewish issues, but one of these issues will be in the background when campaigning. Of course the policy should be (and still is as far as I know) that of immigration etc. But the trouble is Nationalists aren't anti-Immigrant!Time and time and time again we are seeing in our papers and on the news and in opinion polls that the vast majority of the public are anti-immigration and obviously, because of the racial connotations the vast majority of nationalists are, and at present we have just been going through the highest influx of immigration into our country at anytime in its history and the public have been screaming about it, we have met there cries with talk of islam which is not anywhere the same level of importance to them, most of the country percieving the problem of islam to be an overeas problem.
That's what the Left try to say, but if you was in charge of Immigration policy would you allow 10,000 South African White's to emigrate here (to Britain)? I am thinking the answer is Yes. At the end of the day being White is just the dressing, its people who are from your background, which whether you are a practicing Christian / Pagan or whatever you live in a Christian (Judeo- ?? :) ) society and people who you feel are like minded will also be living in the same conditions as you. But if 10,000 Arabs wanted to come to Britain, would you stop them?? Because of the colour of their skin?? Nah, because they are Muslim more likely, a different culture.
No this is all wrong, the majority of people are against immigration, religion is a minor factor in that, the muslim religion is embraced by people of all different races so it isn't seen as the problem, the problem is skin colour. If two new people moved into the average white street in suburbia tomorrow would it be the white muslim or the asian hindu that would be better recieved? The white guy going off to work in his suit and coming home and attending the local barbaque would be happily recieved but the white people of suburbia would reject the paki hindu because of his skin colour. Do you think the vast majority of people in this country even bother to find out what religion the other people are? it's of no importance or significance to them, they don't see a group of muslims, they see a group of pakis or blacks or chinks, they don't go investigating their religion or culture. you should also remember that a great number of people are not practising their religion at all, so the issue of religion becomes irrelevent to them, but not the colour of their skin which they can't shed quite so easily. walk into hounslow or southall or other paki strongholds on a friday night and they are all off down the pub or club, on the piss, or out smoking dope, both of these in contradiction to their religion, are they muslims, do they give a flying fuck about islam? no, so how do you deal with them. this is a race issue, not a religion issue to the watching world.All I am saying is that BOTH issues are valid. But the first background issues needs to be Islam. The Jewish issue isn't relevent ANYWHERE in Britain.The jewish issue is more relevent than the islam issue, yes on the surface the jewish issue is not relevent, but then in the majority of the country neither is islam, as has been shown to you, explained to you and proved to you, but when you dig deeper the jew problem not only covers the islam issue but is relevent in jewish affected areas too, can the same be said about islam? no, the islam issue is far to concentrated and can't be expanded to deal with any other issues, it's short term, it's narrow and has already been shown not to work. 6% of the vote for 1% of the seats? we'd need over 200% of the vote to win an election at that ratio, and that is an impossability, so why persue that course? it hasn't worked and can't work.I also find it odd that people who are saying "we shouldn't attack a religion" are the same people who are using a religion, being Jewish, in branding another people.
There is a misunderstanding there I think you will find, the people who say we can't attack a religion are not saying we can't attack it, but that it is fruitless and it would be better to attack the race issues, rather than a faith that covers a multitude of races and is irrelevant to the majority of people. when we say muslim some people see the paki, some the arab, some the turk and so on, it's a confusing way of talking to many people, you can go to a turk filled area of north london, where they are largely muslim and talk about the muslim issue to people there and they will see it as irrelevant as they will be thinking paki and be seeing no pakis in their nieghbourhood. see how it falls down again? Also when people refer to the jews they are not refering to a religion but to the race of jews, most people don't view them in the religious sense, so you are really comparing oranges and apples.Do we have one rule for each people or something? The public won't take any of it in. Unfortunately (and neither of us control this) groups who don't modernise their image and drop foreign symbols will get no where in British Nationalism.No one is saying that modernisation isn't a good thing, this is another line like the jew obsessed line that is total griffinite spin, of course you have to modernise, everyone and everything always does, but their is a difference between being modern and relevent and being out of touch and selling out on core issues, griffin is following the second course, not the first.The reason why I like Nationalism as an ideology is because its one of the few which doesn't seek to push an un-natural state on the people. It recognises that WE DON'T CONTROL WHAT THE PEOPLE THINK. That attempting to impose an ideology on a people doesn't work in the long term. When Nationalism eventually comes to power, and it WILL DO, we need 100% of the people behind it whether in thoughts or actions. In order to do this we can't, even though the temptation is there, push our own agenda, pick our own enemy etc.Exactly, which is what griffin is attempting to do, he is pushing the issue of islam that most people don't give a fuck about, hye is pushing the issue of allowing race mixing, which most people don't agree with, he wanted more non-whites in the party remember? He is pushing the unnatural instead of listening to the people, this is exactly what I have been banging on about in post after post after post to you. Go ask the people of bristol or peterborough what their concerns are, are they islam? no, so why is the bnp pushing that on them? we mustnt pick our enemy, or push our agenda, we have to listen to the people, meet them on their ground and then educate them, this is exactly what you say above, but exactly the opossite of what griffin is doing.We can only use the issues of the day, at least at first (we can educate them once they join our ranks).But what are the issues of the day? to the majority of this country they are not islam, they immigration, they are race, they are the undemocratic controls over their country from people they can tell are there but whom they know nothing about, the issues of the day are not what happened in burnley, people, the vast majority of people, in this country don't know what has happened in burnley and do give a fuck abut it, it's sad but true. Find it out for yourself, grab your phone, call oxford, call london, call cardiff, call complete strangers all around this country and ask them about burnley and the majority of people not associated with the nationalist movement will meet your calls with silence as they wonder what the fuck you are going on about, then go and call the same places and ask about their issues and see the answers you get. fuck this one policy islam bullshit, it's failing.The whole process is a steady path. Flashing swastika's around and all sticking our right-arm out isn't going to attract the British people to us when they don't understand much about either the salute nor the symbols.No body is saying it will, the majority of the people, ng supporters or JT supporters are not talking about marching through london shouting sieg hiel while doing nazi salutes, do you think they are all stupid? this just isn't going to happen, this is more ng bullshit and spin.So, if we know that why do some keep doing it? They must know it's going to get us no where, except in to frightening the British people, who don't like accepting change anyway. So, why do it??Do you mean the griffinites are the RWB? you'd be better to ask them then the JT supporters, but putting the little dig aside, yes some people do it in private, but so what? in private it's not seen by the public, in private it's seen by only your friends, so where is the problem, are we all subject to some thought police now where we can't have our own views and own ways behind closed doors? Is that the way you really want to go, what happens when you can't say or do or think any nationalist thoughts anymore, will your vote then or will you still have faith in ng?

eople who have a go at Nationalists in suits. Again WE DON'T CONTROL THE GAME RULES, if it means getting our message heard and listened to by more people then why not do it. Why is wearing the Swaskita more important than actually getting heard by British people??I just don't see who you are trying to argue with, this is not a ng versus jt issue, jt has suits, he has friends in suits, ng has friends without suits as well, where is this relevent to anything, this is bullshit and spin, this is not a ng versus JT issue, this is just a smoke screen, what people are talking about is non-whites in the party, concentrating on issues that people don't care about, ditching repatriation, running jews etc, all things that ng is differing from jt about, all things that are dividing the party and all things that are not nationalism and not winning us any votes.anyone thinks, "oh he's a lefty" or something silly like that then don't. These are proper points and need facing by British persons still right-arming it and wearing foreign insignia.But irrelevent to the leadership campaign. fuck me, I said so much that I had to use two posts, it said it was to long for just one post.

No this is all wrong, the majority of people are against immigration, religion is a minor factor in that, the muslim religion is embraced by people of all different races so it isn't seen as the problem, the problem is skin colour. If two new people moved into the average white street in suburbia tomorrow would it be the white muslim or the asian hindu that would be better recieved? The white guy going off to work in his suit and coming home and attending the local barbaque would be happily recieved but the white people of suburbia would reject the paki hindu because of his skin colour. Do you think the vast majority of people in this country even bother to find out what religion the other people are? it's of no importance or significance to them, they don't see a group of muslims

Hmm, what skin colour are these Eastern Europeans who come in on the asylum route? White. I think you, though you are making some good points, don't understand the relation that culture as to religion. Just because someone is White doesn't be there are 'Alright'. The big factor is the culture element and that is made up of colour, religion and other factors. When you see hordes of White Eastern europeans I think we can tell that most seem to be from the Muslim religion. We don't need to ask them they just all seem to be like that. Same with a lot of the 'troublesome' Blacks which come here under asylum. I've heard it said time and time again from non-Nationalists, just ordinary citizens that the bad ones are the Somali's (people are deviding the Black race in to good and bad ones these days) (not sure if I spelt Somali correctly). Aren't Somali's mostly muslim??

Go ask the people of bristol or peterborough what their concerns are, are they islam? no, so why is the bnp pushing that on them? we mustnt pick our enemy

I refer to my above reply about Whiteness and being a Muslim.

Immigration is a very valid issue. But these days so is culture. When I went to America the other year I noticed the Black issue they have there. I've read the NA stuff etc. But I can tell you that the British 'problem' is far greater because it isn't just a battle of race, its a battle of race, religion and culture. Most Blacks and Mexican's in America are Christian. The Mexican's live a very similar way of life to White American's, just further down the ladder. So for America it is a pure racial struggle. In Britain the biggest foreign elements in our midst all belong to an alien culture. A culture who's religion and its religious leaders have pronounced there intention to make Britain Islamic.

I realise that to step in against Islam would be a great task. We have been led against our Islamic brothers many times other history. They know that we have been led by the Zionist lobby, but yet they still choose to attack us, even when they know our 'Masters' don't give a sh*t about us. So, why attack us. Look at the Russian situation. Most of them kidnappers weren't even Chechen, they are from Arab descent, and Muslim.

You and I can see the bigger picture of things. But people just see Muslims striking against the west. It doesn't matter if we, under orders, have provoked it or not. I truly beleive that we're heading for WWIII and there isn't nothing we can do about it.

Yes you are right its nothing to do with the JT v NG debate, but it got brought down to that level when someone decided to ridicule the action the BNP took against Islam.

I acknowledge that there are many ways to deal with the public about the threats which we face, and we face many, but who are you (everyone who's critised the anti-Islamic stance) to say that we are wrong? If you think you can do better, join the WNP and let them get leafleting. There is no reason for us all to be arguing over little points about which is the biggest threat, especially when we have more than one Nationalist party around representing a different way forward.

Tara, I'm not trying to fight you either. I'm not saying that we should be obsessed by EITHER the Islamic or Jewish issues, but one of these issues will be in the background when campaigning. Of course the policy should be (and still is as far as I know) that of immigration etc. But the trouble is Nationalists aren't anti-Immigrant! That's what the Left try to say, but if you was in charge of Immigration policy would you allow 10,000 South African White's to emigrate here (to Britain)? I am thinking the answer is Yes. At the end of the day being White is just the dressing, its people who are from your background, which whether you are a practicing Christian / Pagan or whatever you live in a Christian (Judeo- ?? :) ) society and people who you feel are like minded will also be living in the same conditions as you. But if 10,000 Arabs wanted to come to Britain, would you stop them?? Because of the colour of their skin?? Nah, because they are Muslim more likely, a different culture.

All I am saying is that BOTH issues are valid. But the first background issues needs to be Islam. The Jewish issue isn't relevent ANYWHERE in Britain.

I also find it odd that people who are saying "we shouldn't attack a religion" are the same people who are using a religion, being Jewish, in branding another people.

Do we have one rule for each people or something? The public won't take any of it in. Unfortunately (and neither of us control this) groups who don't modernise their image and drop foreign symbols will get no where in British Nationalism.

The reason why I like Nationalism as an ideology is because its one of the few which doesn't seek to push an un-natural state on the people. It recognises that WE DON'T CONTROL WHAT THE PEOPLE THINK. That attempting to impose an ideology on a people doesn't work in the long term. When Nationalism eventually comes to power, and it WILL DO, we need 100% of the people behind it whether in thoughts or actions. In order to do this we can't, even though the temptation is there, push our own agenda, pick our own enemy etc. We can only use the issues of the day, at least at first (we can educate them once they join our ranks). The whole process is a steady path. Flashing swastika's around and all sticking our right-arm out isn't going to attract the British people to us when they don't understand much about either the salute nor the symbols. So, if we know that why do some keep doing it? They must know it's going to get us no where, except in to frightening the British people, who don't like accepting change anyway. So, why do it??

These people who have a go at Nationalists in suits. Again WE DON'T CONTROL THE GAME RULES, if it means getting our message heard and listened to by more people then why not do it. Why is wearing the Swaskita more important than actually getting heard by British people??

Before anyone thinks, "oh he's a lefty" or something silly like that then don't. These are proper points and need facing by British persons still right-arming it and wearing foreign insignia.

For the first and last time Jews identify themselves racially not religously.

You have been brainwashed my friend, either by the Sun Newspaper, or by certain people on SF.

Islam is not our enemy. And I say this after being totally disgusted by what happened in Russia.

You say 'WE DON'T CONTROL THE GAME RULES' so why are we even trying to play it then????

They will always always always call us Nazi's. It's time we grew up and recognised this.

Your argument is what the BNP seems to be all about these day's.

Your pandering to middle-class nimbyism, who dislike Muslims because they don't fit in and integrate, unlike nice old Sambo who drives the bus.

Are you a WHITE nationalist English Warrior?????

Hmm, what skin colour are these Eastern Europeans who come in on the asylum route? White.Turks and kurds and the others are not white, not to most nationalists, although because of the current confusions in the bnp that might havce to be considered white from the bnps political standpoint, see how it makes things harder and not easeir? I think you, though you are making some good points, don't understand the relation that culture as to religion. Just because someone is White doesn't be there are 'Alright'. The big factor is the culture element and that is made up of colour, religion and other factors. When you see hordes of White Eastern europeans I think we can tell that most seem to be from the Muslim religion.You mean the non-white turks, kurds and so on? of course you can spot them, because they are not white, I'm talking about british born converts, how do you spot a white male british born convert? you can't, so the average person would accept them far more readily than a paki. thats what you are missing.We don't need to ask them they just all seem to be like that. Same with a lot of the 'troublesome' Blacks which come here under asylum. I've heard it said time and time again from non-Nationalists, just ordinary citizens that the bad ones are the Somali's (people are deviding the Black race in to good and bad ones these days) (not sure if I spelt Somali correctly). Aren't Somali's mostly muslim?? some are, many are not, so by lumping the argument muslim you are not targetting the bad non-muslim somali, see how you'bve allowed some through the net by trying to stick an inacurate lable on them? it's the same accross the board, people don't see a black and think, oh he's somali, arn't most somalians muslim, oh lets vote bnp, they think, fuck me, another nigger messing up the area. come on, you know thats the truth. Who is feeding you these lines you are coming here with, this is not natural thought you are coming out with, this is spin, just like the jew obsessed line, just like the nazi salutes, you're feeding us spin, who is feeding it to you? let's cut the bull at this stage, I already know, you've been busted.I refer to my above reply about Whiteness and being a Muslim.and I refer you to my answer, I'm talking real whites, not turks and kurds, big difference.Immigration is a very valid issue. But these days so is culture. When I went to America the other year I noticed the Black issue they have there. I've read the NA stuff etc. But I can tell you that the British 'problem' is far greater because it isn't just a battle of race, its a battle of race, religion and culture. Most Blacks and Mexican's in America are Christian. The Mexican's live a very similar way of life to White American's, just further down the ladder. So for America it is a pure racial struggle. In Britain the biggest foreign elements in our midst all belong to an alien culture. A culture who's religion and its religious leaders have pronounced there intention to make Britain Islamic.bullshit, the majority of non-whites in this country are not muslims, islam is our biggest non-white faith, granted, but the majority of immigrants are not muslims, thats just bullshit and not only is it bullshit, but as I've said time and time again it's irrelevent to most of the country, why don't you address that point? Hasn't Sharon or Andy briefed you on that one yet? Oh by the way, forgot to tell you there is a traitor on your side. I realise that to step in against Islam would be a great task. We have been led against our Islamic brothers many times other history. They know that we have been led by the Zionist lobby, but yet they still choose to attack us, even when they know our 'Masters' don't give a sh*t about us. So, why attack us. Look at the Russian situation. Most of them kidnappers weren't even Chechen, they are from Arab descent, and Muslim.Tell sharon thats a boring answer and irrelevent to the topic being discussed so maybe Andy wants to think up a better one?You and I can see the bigger picture of things. But people just see Muslims striking against the west.we've been through this one, the majority of people don't see muslims as a problem, you are banging on about burnley again, think for yourself, or at least get sharon and Andy to read the posts before you answer for them, peple see the majority of the islam problem as being in iraq and afghanistan, not in oxford or cambridge or cardiff or bristol, quit the spin, it's making you look like a cunt and insulting to everyone here, address the issues or drop out of the discussion It doesn't matter if we, under orders, have provoked it or not. I truly beleive that we're heading for WWIII and there isn't nothing we can do about it. we can, we can stop the jewsYes you are right its nothing to do with the JT v NG debate, but it got brought down to that level when someone decided to ridicule the action the BNP took against Islam.because it's a policy that has failed, read my lips, 6% of the vote got 1% of the seats, can't win with that ratio, got it? now run and send the message to Sharon, so she can consult Andy and give you an answer to that point instead of sending you here with spin. by the way have you read the thread about your ANL friend Andy? you know he writes Sharons scripts right? why are you still working on his side? Do you support the part-black, part-hispanic, judeo-christian, ANL supporter? Answer, yes, or no and then act on that answer, or be dammed by his side.I acknowledge that there are many ways to deal with the public about the threats which we face, and we face many, but who are you (everyone who's critised the anti-Islamic stance) to say that we are wrong?The results say you are wrong, go read this thread, it's proven time and time again that you're wrong, it's proven the policy doesn't work, it's proven that the policy is irrelevent to most people, it's proved it goes against what you preached in your last response, who is to say it is wrong? the public have said it is wrongIf you think you can do better, join the WNP and let them get leafleting. There is no reason for us all to be arguing over little points about which is the biggest threat, especially when we have more than one Nationalist party around representing a different way forward.little points? the party is ripped apart by the lies and spin of one man, he has let in jews, niggers, traitors, he wants to let in more, he's made that clear, he stands jews at elections, he wants to end policies of repatriation, and he wants to run failed policies, you call these small points? Well if you don't want to be in a nationalist party why don't you and nick and sharon and andy go join the tory party? why tell us to leave, why don't you leave? it's make your mind up time, nationalist or traitor? you've crossed the line, you going to cross back to this side or support jews and niggers and the rest? you want to make your mind up now, no more running to ebanks, and then waiting while she phones andy for an update, you have to pick a side and you won't be very welcome in some places if you pick the wrong one. you've been offered up as playing games with fellow nationalists now, that makes a black mark next to your name, are you going to go for further black marks? when andy robertson is splashed across the tabloids at the next election and griffin leads the bnp to glorious failure will you be sitting there thinking it was worth selling your mates out, or will you be over this side and ready to take power?

While you're discussing things with ebanks, englishwarrior, I'll spell it out for you once more, you've been offered up as a traitor, they've turned your name over, you are working for andy robertson, via sharon ebanks, and they've grassed you for it, so it's make your mind up time. You've been busted, now pick your side and stay on it.

Some members of the BNP think Jews are White :rolleyes: Thats why most are ok with Mrs Richardson-Feldman being a member and now an elected councillor. As they say ignorance is bliss.

Sharon Ewwbanks states she will leave the BNP WHEN John Tyndall wins....I say don't let the door hit you on your big fat arse on the way out.

While you're discussing things with ebanks, englishwarrior, I'll spell it out for you once more, you've been offered up as a traitor, they've turned your name over, you are working for andy robertson, via sharon ebanks, and they've grassed you for it, so it's make your mind up time. You've been busted, now pick your side and stay on it.

Busted!? Sorry I thought we was having a real debate here!

Just because I have a different opinion to you I'm classed as a traitor.

I'm not a traitor to the Cause. I am a White Racial Nationalist who is doing his bit for the overall Cause.

What actually are you doing for the Cause? (This is a genuine question btw, I'm not saying sarcastically)

If you don't want to debate with me on here I'll leave.

Busted!? Sorry I thought we was having a real debate here!

Just because I have a different opinion to you I'm classed as a traitor.

I'm not a traitor to the Cause. I am a White Racial Nationalist who is doing his bit for the overall Cause.

What actually are you doing for the Cause? (This is a genuine question btw, I'm not saying sarcastically)

If you don't want to debate with me on here I'll leave.


No, the rest of us were having a debate, you were playing messanger boy for andy robertson, via sharon ebanks, so don't try and play cute. Andy robertson is a traitor, a part jew, part nigger traitor, go read the thread further down the board, now if I was you I'd stop trying to play it cute and start trying to be smart because the question is this, were you just a thick bastard they took advantage of or are you a friend of ANL like andy is? You might want to answer that straight and not go ask a friend, because any attempts to play innocent, or play dumb is going to make it look like you're trying to cover up option two. You're very close to seeing your name handed over to redwatch, so I'd quit the games and start talking. Have you got that? Don't try and play me for a cunt, you've been busted, they've grassed you, now take your side, this side or the side of andy robertson and ANL. Spit it out.

Do yourself a favour here EW, be honest, it's your only way out of this.

Hold on!

EW and I have differences of opinion. Very big differences it would now seem. But I will personaly vouch that he isn't ANL or anything like. I do so on my honour, I have met the man and know some of his friends. And there is no way.

Robertson is the factor here, he is the nigger in the woodpile! lol


Personaly I think you are right, I think EW is a recent convert, a guy being played by a mug, by I want it from his own mouth. He was here, he read your post and mine, if it was you wouldn't you have stayed to fight and clear your name? No way would you have worn what I said, and I can be an evil bitch when I get going. But I want to hear the truth from his mouth, I want him to tell us where he stands, if he wants to play with robertson and ebanks then he can do so, but he shouldn't come here trying to take us for mugs. He's been busted, I want to hear him say he knows he let everyone down here, people who had trusted him and took him in as a fellow nationalist. He shouldn't have done what he did, and he should have the guts to admit to that. but this is just so typical of the new robertson/griffin games, it has to be head fucks all the time, it can't be straight debate, it has to be messanger carrying and spin and trying to trick people and play dirty all the time. What's wrong with honest nationalists having honest debates?

These are indeed serious accusations, and I have to admit I wouldn't like them aimed at me. however I read both your messages, and I don't think she accused you over a difference of opinion. On face value, it looks very much like you are accused of being a mouthpiece for Robertson and Ebanks. I was expecting you to deny this immediately. Come now EW, tell me it isn't so!

I'm not a mouthpiece for anyone. I'm only speaking of how *I* see things.

I'm not a mouthpiece for anyone. I'm only speaking of how *I* see things.


So why are you doing it in consultation with ebanks and why have they offered up your name? Why do you need to talk to ebanks about it if you are speaking only about yourself, and why use griffin spin, as you did several times in the thread.

Lets give you a chance EW, lets take this one step at a time, after posting here earlier today is it not true that between 2:00pm this afternoon and 2:30pm this afternoon that you were in consultation with Sharon Ebanks? Is it not also true that between 2:30pm and 3:00pm that Andy Robertson logged offline to take a phone call with Sharon Ebanks to discuss matters at VNN? Is it not also true that you have, in the course of this thread, repeatedly used Griffin spin, the lines about swastikas, right arm salutes, jew obsessed etc.? Lines that were irrelevent to the conversation, that were not in anyway related to any points being made, but that have been used by Griffinites time and time again to try and bum steer a conversation? Is it not also true that someone, from the Ebanks/Griffin/Robertson axis, knowing they were in a spot of bother, offered up your name as being their mouthpiece on VNN? Is it not also true that the facts above, which can be verified, all appear to support his/her statement? Do you care to go throw each one of those points and explain them? and don't try and play the fool, it's been proven, to me and others that the conversations between you and ebanks and ebanks and robertson took place, and that this isn't the first time, it's also evident to anyone who reads this thread that the griffin spin is in your posts, so why not come clean and tell us the whole story and the real story? You don't owe anyone any loyalties, they offered up your name, they haven't stood by you, they aren't coming here to defend you, they have hung you out to dry and left you here blowing in the wind. So do yourself a favour and tell us all the truth.

Lets give you a chance EW, lets take this one step at a time, after posting here earlier today is it not true that between 2:00pm this afternoon and 2:30pm this afternoon that you were in consultation with Sharon Ebanks? Is it not also true that between 2:30pm and 3:00pm that Andy Robertson logged offline to take a phone call with Sharon Ebanks to discuss matters at VNN? Is it not also true that you have, in the course of this thread, repeatedly used Griffin spin, the lines about swastikas, right arm salutes, jew obsessed etc.? Lines that were irrelevent to the conversation, that were not in anyway related to any points being made, but that have been used by Griffinites time and time again to try and bum steer a conversation? Is it not also true that someone, from the Ebanks/Griffin/Robertson axis, knowing they were in a spot of bother, offered up your name as being their mouthpiece on VNN? Is it not also true that the facts above, which can be verified, all appear to support his/her statement? Do you care to go throw each one of those points and explain them? and don't try and play the fool, it's been proven, to me and others that the conversations between you and ebanks and ebanks and robertson took place, and that this isn't the first time, it's also evident to anyone who reads this thread that the griffin spin is in your posts, so why not come clean and tell us the whole story and the real story? You don't owe anyone any loyalties, they offered up your name, they haven't stood by you, they aren't coming here to defend you, they have hung you out to dry and left you here blowing in the wind. So do yourself a favour and tell us all the truth.

I don't know what the hell you are talking about. I'm trying to have a debate here and your babbling on about something I don't know anything about. How can I defend myself if I haven't done what you say?? I can't prove a negative. I came on VNN purely to have a debate with you guys, and to correct the Steve Smith situation. Now all of a sudden I'm a Griffin supporter and I'm talking to all in sundary. When I said I was leaving you posted that I should come back and explain myself and that I'd left because I couldn't. Well I came back and denied everything. But that doesn't seem to be good enough for you. I thought you was worth debating with. I haven't condemned you in anyway and have accepted that there is more than one brand of Nationalism. How is that attacking you or others?

All this stuff about phone calls between different people. I don't know what your talking about. I've been too busy replying to you to be making any phone calls etc.

Again, why don't we get back to the issues and stop making all this personal.

Sid as seen me in the 'flesh'. He knows I'm not ANL or anyone like that. I am just writing my opinion. If you don't agree with it then fair enough. I'm not forcing my opinion on you and I'm not saying that *I* have all the answers.

I don't know what the hell you are talking about. I'm trying to have a debate here and your babbling on about something I don't know anything about. How can I defend myself if I haven't done what you say?? I can't prove a negative. I came on VNN purely to have a debate with you guys, and to correct the Steve Smith situation. Now all of a sudden I'm a Griffin supporter and I'm talking to all in sundary. When I said I was leaving you posted that I should come back and explain myself and that I'd left because I couldn't. Well I came back and denied everything. But that doesn't seem to be good enough for you. I thought you was worth debating with. I haven't condemned you in anyway and have accepted that there is more than one brand of Nationalism. How is that attacking you or others?

All this stuff about phone calls between different people. I don't know what your talking about. I've been too busy replying to you to be making any phone calls etc.

Again, why don't we get back to the issues and stop making all this personal.

Sid as seen me in the 'flesh'. He knows I'm not ANL or anyone like that. I am just writing my opinion. If you don't agree with it then fair enough. I'm not forcing my opinion on you and I'm not saying that *I* have all the answers.

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... it's also evident to anyone who reads this thread that the griffin spin is in your [EW's] posts, so why not come clean and tell us the whole story and the real story?
No kidding. The spin is so obvious that it's embarrassing.


... they haven't stood by you [EW], they aren't coming here to defend you, they have hung you out to dry and left you here blowing in the wind. So do yourself a favour and tell us all the truth.
Sooner or later, Griffin betrays everyone who has any dealings with him. EW is in for a nasty surprise.

TARA posts some interesting info !

More, more, more, from TARA !

Let's have JohnJoyTreeExposed.com ...

Let's have JohnJoyTreeExposed.com ...


if I knew how to make a website and if it cost me nothing i would do it but I haven't got to grips with websites and all that stuff.

PR WORK FOR THE JEW MUST PAY WELL...

Look at these so called Natinalist trying to blur the fact that most Jews are none Aryan/None White by RACE and the original jews are the same as arabs NONE WHITE Semites!

There are more Jews in East Anglia than Pakis (Essex is full of jews), as I keep saying the Pakis of the North are not a big issue here. We see probably 5 Niggers to one Paki (some are Spanish or S.E Europeans they just look like pakis). We don't see many Niggers other than Ipswich, and a few coons in Kettering (some are coon nurses due to this shitbag government importing them). I have not even seen a mosk here. I never herd of a mosk near here, there would be no point (what islamics?).

We have some big differeces between the North and South in what immergrants we have, so the one size fits all view is not going to be the best way forward. Focusing on local issues by Local groups would be the best idea.

De-Centralization I feel would be the key to greater success.

As long as we don't have to see him naked! :eek: It would be like Mr Blobby in grey!

Please do not put images like that into my head, I will not be able to sleep nights :eek:

Good link to JT's views on Jews in the BNP for those who have not read it.

http://www.spearhead.com/0405-jt4.html

For those wanting to know the difference between the old BNP and the new BNP approach to the jewish question from outside the UK.

JT wants the Jews out & Griffen wants them Jews in !

Good link to JT's views on Jews in the BNP for those who have not read it.

http://www.spearhead.com/0405-jt4.html

For those wanting to know the difference between the old BNP and the new BNP approach to the jewish question from outside the UK.

JT wants the Jews out & Griffen wants them Jews in !


If JT doesn't win then it's over. The BNP will be lost to all nationalists and we will have to build it all up again with one of the other parties. It will be decades of work flushed down the toilet. Does that count as being a race traitor? It feels like it.

I find it interesting that the hippy Jew Tree took down the Leadership Thread over on Stormyweather board. As soon as VNN - British Forum put up our Leadership Thread, it appears :confused: ........Looks like VNN - British Forum leads while others follow.

"But the majority are good patriots who would be assets to the party if they were allowed to join or could be induced to join. By their joining we would have as near to a unification of nationalists in Britain as it is ever realistic to hope for. I believe that I would be able to achieve this unification in a way that Mr. Griffin has not been. Many nationalists now outside the BNP has declared their willingness to join if Mr. Griffin is removed and Iam restored. I am pleadged to work for this with all the means in my power." John Tyndall

Griffin is a spliter, John Tyndall is a uniter - Its as simple as that.

If JT doesn't win then it's over. The BNP will be lost to all nationalists and we will have to build it all up again with one of the other parties. It will be decades of work flushed down the toilet. Does that count as being a race traitor? It feels like it.

It's a very worrying situation we face I agree, more so as I don't believe it has anything to do with tactics anymore, it's about sellingout whole and thus hopping to receive an easier ride, backing the government JEW crusade of destroying the jews main enamy Islam.

The Torry wannabees in the BNP are already moving towards this fight being a war against religious extremism and saying this is not about Race. Asian area's are being condemned for not joining in fully (for not trying to fit in more) into English society. I for one don't want them to blend in, I want them to F Off back to where ever they came from and stay there.

These are sad days for WN in the UK! :(

It's a very worrying situation we face I agree, more so as I don't believe it has anything to do with tactics anymore, it's about sellingout whole and thus hopping to receive an easier ride, backing the government JEW crusade of destroying the jews main enamy Islam.

The Torry wannabees in the BNP are already moving towards this fight being a war against religious extremism and saying this is not about Race. Asian area's are being condemned for not joining in fully (for not trying to fit in more) into English society. I for one don't want them to blend in, I want them to F Off back to where ever they came from and stay there.

These are sad days for WN in the UK! :(

Its not Islam that is the problem - Its IMMIGRATION thats the problem.

Its not Islam that is the problem - Its IMMIGRATION thats the problem.

I agree 100%. The issue is and must be ALL none Aryan immergrants, not what religon they are. We should not want ANY none whites (these spanish, turks, Rumanians types).

This religon debate is not going to help WN and the Griffenites are trying to say Jews are white and being jewish has nothing to do with race. I say have a trip down to the jew areas of London or even Essex (9 times out of 10 you can spot the jew, not by clothing or by mannerisms but because they look like fuckin Arabs!)

It's a very worrying situation we face I agree, more so as I don't believe it has anything to do with tactics anymore, it's about sellingout whole and thus hopping to receive an easier ride, backing the government JEW crusade of destroying the jews main enamy Islam.

The Torry wannabees in the BNP are already moving towards this fight being a war against religious extremism and saying this is not about Race. Asian area's are being condemned for not joining in fully (for not trying to fit in more) into English society. I for one don't want them to blend in, I want them to F Off back to where ever they came from and stay there.

These are sad days for WN in the UK! :(


I agree, but this is England, this land that I was born to die for, this land that is glorious and special, that has the habit of rising from it's slumber in it's hour of need to face any foe, no matter how fierce or how out numbered. This is England, my country and I will not lie down and die, I will stand and fight and I know, come the darkest hour, that everyone of my brothers and sisters will rise up with me, in unison, to slay the demons we face. This is my England and people like Nick Griffin can sell it for a handful of jewish coins, 12 pieces of silver is it Nick? but they can not sell our souls, they can not sell our courage and they can not sell our hearts. There may be dark times ahead, their may be storm clouds over us that threaten our very existance, but do not, for one second underestimate the fight and the resolve of the English, we shall rise from the ashes and some how, one way or another, we shall be victorious and this country will become ours again, and it will become white again!!!

I agree, but this is England, this land that I was born to die for, this land that is glorious and special, that has the habit of rising from it's slumber in it's hour of need to face any foe, no matter how fierce or how out numbered. This is England, my country and I will not lie down and die, I will stand and fight and I know, come the darkest hour, that everyone of my brothers and sisters will rise up with me, in unison, to slay the demons we face. This is my England and people like Nick Griffin can sell it for a handful of jewish coins, 12 pieces of silver is it Nick? but they can not sell our souls, they can not sell our courage and they can not sell our hearts. There may be dark times ahead, their may be storm clouds over us that threaten our very existance, but do not, for one second underestimate the fight and the resolve of the English, we shall rise from the ashes and some how, one way or another, we shall be victorious and this country will become ours again, and it will become white again!!!

Well my Mums side of the family has deep roots in East Anglia, the English side of me fills with pride at your words.

England is a great land (an Anglo-Saxon land) founded in blood and won and kept through strength. We can not now let it fall into the hands of subhuman vermin and sellouts without an all out fight!

BNP's tory slide -

How are they going to combat this ?

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Kilroy Silk sets sights on Commons
9 September 2004 London Evening Standard

UK Independence Party MEP Robert Kilroy Silk has declared he would
contest a Westminster seat at the next general election and said his
party had funding to fight any marginal contest it chose.

The former TV presenter said he had been pledged "as much as I need"
by various sources to fight seats up and down the country on a
platform not just geared to his party's policy of withdrawal from the
EU.


"That money is in place and it's open ended," he declared.

Immigration, asylum, defence, homeland security, health and a host of
other issues would all be campaign areas, said Mr Kilroy Silk.

But speaking at a Westminster lunch he declined to say which seat he
would fight at the next election or how many marginals his party
would contest.

"We are going to change the face of British politics forever, and I
promise you we will not let the British people down," he told
reporters.

Mr Kilroy Silk said he had his eye on a seat in his East Midlands
European constituency, but added it might not be the most winnable
scientifically.

BNP's tory slide -

How are they going to combat this ?

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Kilroy Silk sets sights on Commons
9 September 2004 London Evening Standard

UK Independence Party MEP Robert Kilroy Silk has declared he would
contest a Westminster seat at the next general election and said his
party had funding to fight any marginal contest it chose.

The former TV presenter said he had been pledged "as much as I need"
by various sources to fight seats up and down the country on a
platform not just geared to his party's policy of withdrawal from the
EU.


"That money is in place and it's open ended," he declared.

Immigration, asylum, defence, homeland security, health and a host of
other issues would all be campaign areas, said Mr Kilroy Silk.

But speaking at a Westminster lunch he declined to say which seat he
would fight at the next election or how many marginals his party
would contest.

"We are going to change the face of British politics forever, and I
promise you we will not let the British people down," he told
reporters.

Mr Kilroy Silk said he had his eye on a seat in his East Midlands
European constituency, but added it might not be the most winnable
scientifically.

maybe we can JT back in charge and he will weave a mircle and sort them out no problem like he did before :rolleyes:

you seem pleased about this....

BNP's tory slide -

How are they going to combat this ?

=================================




Kilroy Silk sets sights on Commons
9 September 2004 London Evening Standard

UK Independence Party MEP Robert Kilroy Silk has declared he would
contest a Westminster seat at the next general election and said his
party had funding to fight any marginal contest it chose.

The former TV presenter said he had been pledged "as much as I need"
by various sources to fight seats up and down the country on a
platform not just geared to his party's policy of withdrawal from the
EU.


"That money is in place and it's open ended," he declared.

Immigration, asylum, defence, homeland security, health and a host of
other issues would all be campaign areas, said Mr Kilroy Silk.

But speaking at a Westminster lunch he declined to say which seat he
would fight at the next election or how many marginals his party
would contest.

"We are going to change the face of British politics forever, and I
promise you we will not let the British people down," he told
reporters.

Mr Kilroy Silk said he had his eye on a seat in his East Midlands
European constituency, but added it might not be the most winnable
scientifically.

Well the BNP tory wannabee will have a real fight on their hands, it will be upto the membership wether they stay in a badly funded tory wannabee party (new BNP) or join the much more publicly acceptable face of the UKIP and its friendly household name leader Mr.Silk.

Now UKIP I can understand as it is not a WN party, I know loads of people down here vote for it. The BNP when it starts to try to play the same cards it just sounds wrong. The BNP got a protest vote as I think will become clear in the next elections, when the protest vote move to UKIP.

The BNP may have some gains with their anti-islam reterick but that as I have said many times will not help them win votes in the South of England, where we have different issues.

So will I vote for UKIP or the new sellout BNP (spot the difference)? Hey I may aswell flip a coin and go with that!!! :mad:

BTW. My girlfriend voted UKIP and will be voting that way in the Gen election, she used to vote Tory (She loves England & thinks there are too many asilum seekers but thats about it). I voted BNP last time in the Euro elect and UKIP on the local as we did not have a BNP candidate in my area(Obviously no jews wanted to stand).

"I am pledged to maintain the BNP as a party of 100 per cent racial nationalism. That is to say that our aim must be an all white Britain, with a population of British stock, varied only by the mingling of people of compatible and assimiable European ethnic groups." John Tyndall

No salt in the soup there :D

Salt granules are white, by the way !

" The BNP should be willing to consider schemes of co-operation with non-white ethnic groups towards the achievement of its repatriation programme, but this should not involve granting them any special status in relation to our party, whether as party members or in any kind of formal association. I therefore would immediately dissociate the BNP from any groups that have been formed over the past five years which grant such association. This would include the so-called 'Ethnic Liaison Committee' and any others of its kind. If those comprising such groups wish to maintain them in operation, that is their affair. However, they would no longer be permitted any special relationship to our party." John Tyndall

Soon it will be time for the ethnics to pack their turbans ;)

"Contrary to wisepread belief fostered within the party by Mr. Griffin and his allies and outside it by some sections of the mass media. I am every bit as concerned and committed as he claims to maintain the best possible public image for the BNP, so as to achieve for it the maximum electability." John Tyndall

To move forward, we cannot move back !

Its not Islam that is the problem - Its IMMIGRATION thats the problem.

thats riubbish

islam is far more dangerous than any other religion, do recent events not tell you anything?

and before you mention jews, there is no point mentioning ZOG to the lemmings as they are so thick they will think a zionist is something that you order from a kebab shop :(

at least the lemmings and see islam for themselves in the street etc

You had to bring lamb into it didn't you? As in sheep, aye taff?

Feel free to type your crap, just don't expect anyone to take much notice. The reason the BNP get slagged off in here is because we are all real racial white nationalists. The BNP used to be white nationalist, my favourite description of them now is the NTW = New Tory Wets. And Nick Griffin is a wanker, every White Nationalist knows that.

well JT is an OAP and so can not really lead the party for long

why no comment from you on what JT said about C18? I note that you post on C18 forum, truth hard to handle :D

well JT is an OAP and so can not really lead the party for long

why no comment from you on what JT said about C18? I note that you post on C18 forum, truth hard to handle :D

The C18 forum do you think many of its members post on that forum or on any WN forum? The C18 forum just gives the state something to read.... :D

As for JT yes he is old and it would be good for the BNP to get a young WN leader, but making a sell out wet tory wannabee its leader is not the answer!

This welsh Taff dragon is probably one of Griffens family!

You had to bring lamb into it didn't you? As in sheep, aye taff?

Your making me hungry, all this talk of wales and lambs. Roast lamb & Mint Sauce, yummy! :p

Is Nick the prick a sheep farmer? He must have some use?

I love a bacon buttie me! Or hows about a little port crackling. How the Jews and Paki's get through life without lovely pork I'll never know.

No wonder the Pakis and Jews are always pissed off! :D

The smell of bacon under the grill in a morning (from a local English farm not from the jew owned supermarkets)!!!! A full English breakfast !!! England is a great land indeed!

Well I think that Griffin is the best man to lead the BNP rather than JT, the BNP has made great strides since 1999. What did the BNP achieve between 1982 and 1999? Just one council seat in 17 years! Under JT the BNP was an isolated fringe group which wasn't really going anywhere. Under Nick Griffin the BNP has become the most successful British Nationalist party ever, even bigger than the National Front in its heyday. The BNP now has 23 councillors nationwide and only missed out on a euro seat in the North West by only 30,000 votes.
Everything that comes out of the JT camp is negative, this is the most successful time for British Nationalism ever and all you can do is slag off Nick Griffin. JT seems like a bitter old man who has never gotten over losing the leadership challenge back in 1999 and has been waiting since then for an rematch.

JT at his best.
http://www.bernardomahoney.com/forthcb/ootdie/photos/ph06/images/07.jpg
left Simon Biggs (C18, violence convictions), John Tyndall (BNP Leader), Richard Edmonds (National Organiser) right

NG at his best.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1505000/images/_1506841_nickgriffin150.jpg
Who has the better public image i wonder JT or NG?

Its just a shame the gag didn't suffocate the one eyed bisexual ex public school bag of crap.
That's not a very nice thing to say is it? Nick Griffin is not gay!! Don't believe the lies and smears from Searchlight and Webster.

That's not a very nice thing to say is it? Nick Griffin is not gay!! Don't believe the lies and smears from Searchlight and Webster.

I would not think Griffen is gay or bi but I don't know. I do know that he's a sellout out!

As for this Scotland 88 if he has anything to do with animal porn he is utter scum!

I would not think Griffen is gay or bi but I don't know. I do know that he's a sellout out!

As for this Scotland 88 if he has anything to do with animal porn he is utter scum!
Well I haven't seen any hard evidence to prove that he is gay and as he has four kids it seems very unlikely that he is a queer.

Well I haven't seen any hard evidence to prove that he is gay and as he has four kids it seems very unlikely that he is a queer.

I don't think he is as I have said, but he is selling out White Nationalism for a few extra votes. Do you not think the cost is too high?

scotland88 posted animal porn al over the boards here, even the American posters saw it, he also sent them to everyones PM. He is scum, pure and simple. A sick pervert.

Yes just received some very sick sick shit from the sick scumbag! He is fuckin ILL! Forwarded them on to TOM. Hopefully he will no remove that sick fucker and ALL his posts! THE SICK BASTARD! I feel sick !

I don't think he is as I have said, but he is selling out White Nationalism for a few extra votes. Do you not think the cost is too high?
Well I think that Nick Griffin is still a true WN at heart, the changes he has made has only to make the party more voter friendly, what you have got to remember that the majority of people in this country are thick and ignorant of the real situation this country is in, so are yet unready for a true WN message.

Well I think that Nick Griffin is still a true WN at heart, the changes he has made has only to make the party more voter friendly, what you have got to remember that the majority of people in this country are thick and ignorant of the real situation this country is in, so are yet unready for a true WN message. White Nationalist? Jews in the party? Voluntary repatration? Candidates saying the party is not against race-mixing Griffin saying non-whites are here for good. B & P are you White Nationalist?

He is not only very sick, he is also increadibly stupid. I hope social services find out about his disgusting perversions and take his children away, they would be much better off in care. Also notice how he comes here shouting bullshit about me, trying to get me banned, yet he still posts filth. Not very bright at all. BrightonWNP this sick pervert has a fixation about you and the WNP.This is because you tell it like it really is, unlike his sell-out BNP under Griffin.

BrightonWNP this sick pervert has a fixation about you and the WNP.This is because you tell it like it really is, unlike his sell-out BNP under Griffin.

Griffen has some real sick scum for allies these days! If that is Griffen idea of a supporter then the BNP is really screwed!!! The dirty sick sick fucker! :mad:

White Nationalist? Jews in the party? Voluntary repatration? Candidates saying the party is not against race-mixing Griffin saying non-whites are here for good. B & P are you White Nationalist?
The NF had Jews in it in the 1970s

I think that Voluntary repatration is a better policy and more voter friendly, anyway how many ethincs would want to stay in this country once a BNP government had been elected, think about it.

Alright race mixing is wrong and that is wrong.

I think Griffin didn't really mean it when he said that non-whites are here for good.

Well I think that Nick Griffin is still a true WN at heart, the changes he has made has only to make the party more voter friendly, what you have got to remember that the majority of people in this country are thick and ignorant of the real situation this country is in, so are yet unready for a true WN message.


THE places for electoral success are along the M62 motorway belt. Places like Oldham,Burnley,Halifax and Bradford. These places want even harder nationalist policies than even we can offer.

We are in danger of being 'out of touch' with the electorate here.

THE places for electoral success are along the M62 motorway belt. Places like Oldham,Burnley,Halifax and Bradford. These places want even harder nationalist policies than even we can offer.

We are in danger of being 'out of touch' with the electorate here.
What about places like Luton or Peterborough?

Well I think that Griffin is the best man to lead the BNP rather than JT, the BNP has made great strides since 1999. What did the BNP achieve between 1982 and 1999?

The foundations for everything that has come since, without all the hard work done between 1982 and 1999 there would be no BNP, there would be nothing, everyone, NG supporter or JT supporter should know that and should respect that, just like in the old days of the NF everybody accepted the ground work done by those that had preceeded them, even if they disagreed with their policies. ALL true nationalists, Griffinites, Tyndalites, National Front members, members of the WNP, of N9S of the National Alliance in America and of Nationalists from all over europe recognise that. If you don't recognise that then you have to question if you really are a nationalist.Under Nick Griffin the BNP has become the most successful British Nationalist party ever, even bigger than the National Front in its heyday. The BNP now has 23 councillors nationwide and only missed out on a euro seat in the North West by only 30,000 votes.One protest vote doesn't a party make, we are at a time right now when this country is more primed for a nationalist movement than at any other time in history, if you stood frank bruno on a nationalist ticket right now he'd pick up votes, the tricky bit is what happens when the mood dies? Maybe the ball will keep rolling, maybe it won't, but don't judge the party on one protest voteJT seems like a bitter old man who has never gotten over losing the leadership challenge back in 1999 and has been waiting since then for an rematch.Considering he plans to hand over the leadership almost immediately that doesn't really ring true does it? By the way, it's quite a plan of JTs isn't it? While every one is slagging him off who has even worked out who is chosen one is? The next leader of the BNP is out there somewhere watching all this unfold unscathed, so tell me, after any leadership challange, which of the 3 is going to be left with the best image? Old JT has suckered you and all the rest of the griffinites into attacking the wrong target. Not so old and stupid hey?

Who has the better public image i wonder JT or NG?Do you want the honest answer? Most of the public really doesn't know either of them. If you walked down your high street tomorrow and showed them pictures of JT and NG most non-nationalists would just gawp and stare blankly wondering who they are. "Wut? Is he that bloke of the first seriese of big brother?" Don't kid yourself that image matters for much yet, maybe when we have enough votes to make a difference, but until then we are just the BNP and few people know us beyond the initials and the medias portrayal of us as nazis.

Well I think that Nick Griffin is still a true WN at heart, the changes he has made has only to make the party more voter friendly, what you have got to remember that the majority of people in this country are thick and ignorant of the real situation this country is in, so are yet unready for a true WN message.You know ive heard mr jewtree say that on spermfront, but I'm yet to find anyone else who was stupid enough to believe it until now, have you even thought about it? so we lie to the public ok? we tell them that we don't mind jews and turks and part-niggers like jewtree in the party and we tell them we won't send anyone home and we tell them that we don't mind the non-whites importing family and we tell them all this other bullshit and it wins us a few votes maybe? but then what happens? we have to keep the lie going don't we, we can't just say to everyone haha we were lying, next election you have to vote for us for completely different reasons because we ware a bunch of spin infected bullshitters, so the lie keeps going and the membership goes up, so instead of say 3,000 nationalists we end up with 2750 nationalists (because 250 have fucked off because they got sick with the new policies) and 10,000 non-wns and then what happens when they call a leadership challange? remember that the 10,000 really believe all these policies are for real, so which way are they going to vote? They'll vote for the next kilroy silk who steps up and backs those policies, so then you don't have a lie anymore, and you don't even have a party anymore, you just have a small cheap imitation of the conservatives. Great plan don't you think?

The NF had Jews in it in the 1970s

I think that Voluntary repatration is a better policy and more voter friendly, anyway how many ethincs would want to stay in this country once a BNP government had been elected, think about it.

Alright race mixing is wrong and that is wrong.

I think Griffin didn't really mean it when he said that non-whites are here for good. The NF had jews as members in the 1970s as a publicity stunt.Did not work then,does not work now.Media still calls you as nazis,racists,facists etc. Voter friendly ,you are having a laugh? Whatever you think,Griffin said it.

The NF had Jews in it in the 1970sSo? JT tried like hell to get rid of them and they were never selected as candidates, no one has ever gone that far down the jew-lover road before and besides does it make it right just because the NF made the same mistake once before? Fuck that is a stupid argument, why do all NGs fans use it? If the NF stuck it's head in the oven would you do that too?I think that Voluntary repatration is a better policy and more voter friendly, anyway how many ethincs would want to stay in this country once a BNP government had been elected, think about it.How many would want to move to a shit hole in africa, think about that, none, so they would all stay, so you wouldn't get rid of one, so how is that a better policy?Alright race mixing is wrong and that is wrong.So vote for a candidate that will end that talk in the partyI think Griffin didn't really mean it when he said that non-whites are here for good.yes he did, thats why his policies have changed to make sure of it.

What about places like Luton or Peterborough?
what about them, they reject the current bnp policies, so are we going to change them to win the massive support that is there for nationalist policies or are we going to push race mixing, jews, turks and part niggers on them and tell them it's all the fault of islam? Your point is exactly right, we do need to move into these places, but griffin has made us lepers there, if we had played it right we'd have 88 counciler now, not a measly 23, still think we're doing it right?

I told everyone I was in a pissy mood. haha.

Do you want the honest answer? Most of the public really doesn't know either of them. If you walked down your high street tomorrow and showed them pictures of JT and NG most non-nationalists would just gawp and stare blankly wondering who they are. "Wut? Is he that bloke of the first seriese of big brother?" Don't kid yourself that image matters for much yet, maybe when we have enough votes to make a difference, but until then we are just the BNP and few people know us beyond the initials and the medias portrayal of us as nazis.
I disagree there, since 2001 Nick Griffin has become a household name I have seen him on the news loads of times since then, he has a much higher media profile that Tyndall ever had as BNP leader.
Anyway I think more and more people are starting to see through the media lies when they call us Nazis and know it just a load of rubbish.

I disagree there, since 2001 Nick Griffin has become a household name I have seen him on the news loads of times since then, he has a much higher media profile that Tyndall ever had as BNP leader.
Anyway I think more and more people are starting to see through the media lies when they call us Nazis and know it just a load of rubbish.you don't watch much tv or read many newspapers then do you, all summer they were banging on about the real image on the bnp, the nazis behind the suits and yes you've noticed him because you are a bnp supporter, do you think non-bnp supporters have tuned in specially like you have. go on, do what I said, go take the photos down your high street and try it out for yourself, don't just guess at it, go research it, he's unknown, just as any WN is in this country right now to the vast majority of people.

what about them, they reject the current bnp policies, so are we going to change them to win the massive support that is there for nationalist policies or are we going to push race mixing, jews, turks and part niggers on them and tell them it's all the fault of islam? Your point is exactly right, we do need to move into these places, but griffin has made us lepers there, if we had played it right we'd have 88 counciler now, not a measly 23, still think we're doing it right?
What makes you think that they have rejected current bnp policies? Places like Luton have never had a BNP group, so the place is unknown territory for Nationalists.

What makes you think that they have rejected current bnp policies? Places like Luton have never had a BNP group, so the place is unknown terrority for Nationalists.How do people know? by talking to people from those places, not just by listening to what nick griffin thinks but getting out on the street and talking to people and listening to people, thats what people like you miss, you are to busy listening to one man in an isolated fam house in the middle of wales who gets half his crackpot ideas from a part yid, part hispanic, part nigger lunatic ANL supporter, rather than getting out there and talking to people. Read what the people here have said, read what they do, go talk to them instead of trying to tell them what you've been told, luton and peterborough are in east anglia, there are people here from east anglia, don't you think they have a clue what is going on on their own doorstep? they have a better clue than those that haven't been there. we have talked to the people, we have listened to the people, you've been to rwb and talked to a welsh farmer, so which one do you think knows best about the area?

If they would promise to lock up homosexuals they would get plenty of support here too. I've been up and down the country a fair bit of late, we are all in the shit one way or another. The zionist dream of wiping out the white race is starting to come true. They won't stop until Great Britain turns into a big brown mess in the middle of the North Sea! And the policies of Griffins BNP would do nothing to slow it down let alone stop it. :mad:
exactly, we were talking in another thread just the other day about how your area is now fag city and how I wouldn't go to any clubs around there, but is anyone targetting that? is anyone actually getting their feet dirty trekking along the streets getting opinions or is the bnp just told to play the burnley issues everywhere? when will people start to see all the votes and seats that are being lost?

you don't watch much tv or read many newspapers then do you, all summer they were banging on about the real image on the bnp, the nazis behind the suits and yes you've noticed him because you are a bnp supporter, do you think non-bnp supporters have tuned in specially like you have. go on, do what I said, go take the photos down your high street and try it out for yourself, don't just guess at it, go research it, he's unknown, just as any WN is in this country right now to the vast majority of people.
Yes i do watch the TV and read newspapers and are well aware of the media smears against the BNP. If you remember the news in 2001, Nick Griffin and the BNP were mentioned in nearly all the news story concerning the riots. Since 2001 Nick Griffin has enjoyed a much higher national profile. I know loads of people who aren't nationalist that have heard of Nick Griffin.

Yes i do watch the TV and read newspapers and are well aware of the media smears against the BNP. If you remember the news in 2001, Nick Griffin and the BNP were mentioned in nearly all the news story concerning the riots. Since 2001 Nick Griffin has enjoyed a much higher national profile. I know loads of people who aren't nationalist that have heard of Nick Griffin.so now you suddenly are aware that we are still called nazis, well thats a positive step forward, we can drop that bullshit from this debate, now you say you know lots of people who have heard about ng, well your a nationalist, so these are the sort of people who know nationalists, I'm talking about the people you don't know, the other 60,000,000 now get out into your high street and research them because we will never win an election based around what yer mates know. *sigh* kids these day...

The foundations for everything that has come since, without all the hard work done between 1982 and 1999 there would be no BNP, there would be nothing, everyone, NG supporter or JT supporter should know that and should respect that, just like in the old days of the NF everybody accepted the ground work done by those that had preceeded them, even if they disagreed with their policies. ALL true nationalists, Griffinites, Tyndalites, National Front members, members of the WNP, of N9S of the National Alliance in America and of Nationalists from all over europe recognise that. If you don't recognise that then you have to question if you really are a nationalist.One protest vote doesn't a party make, we are at a time right now when this country is more primed for a nationalist movement than at any other time in history, if you stood frank bruno on a nationalist ticket right now he'd pick up votes, the tricky bit is what happens when the mood dies? Maybe the ball will keep rolling, maybe it won't, but don't judge the party on one protest voteConsidering he plans to hand over the leadership almost immediately that doesn't really ring true does it? By the way, it's quite a plan of JTs isn't it? While every one is slagging him off who has even worked out who is chosen one is? The next leader of the BNP is out there somewhere watching all this unfold unscathed, so tell me, after any leadership challange, which of the 3 is going to be left with the best image? Old JT has suckered you and all the rest of the griffinites into attacking the wrong target. Not so old and stupid hey?
Yes but between 1982 and 1999 the BNP was an tiny fringe group which wasn't really going anywhere and was a mere shadow of the 70's NF. Even as late as 1997 there was talk of an merger between the BNP and the NF as the NF name was more well known.
So who does JT plans to hand the leadership over to if he wins? I have got an idea of who it might be.

So have you ever been to Luton? I went to see Scunny play them a couple of years back. It is just as bad as any Pennine town. If the BNP have no group there then they are obviously missing out on a lot of potential votes. One of our lot was spat at by Pakies because he was wearing an England shirt. I've never seen that in Lancashire or Yorkshire, so that told me how bad Luton is.luton and peterborough have had riots, but the problem is that they ain't just muslims, its a wider immigration problem, so when you roll into town with jews and spiks and turks and half-castes and start telling them it's all about islam they just switch off, they know it's about immigration, they don't give a flying fuck about islam, these are pakis and indians and turks and more, they ain't viewed as being anything to do with iraq or afghanistan or anything, the people there are interested in getting their high streets back, getting their language and culture back, they don't care about suicide bombers, it's the last thing on their mind. you go up to a bloke in peterborough and try preaching to him about suicide bombers and he's going to give you a muthful back about riots, gang warfare, prostitution, drugs and tell you to fuck off with your islam bullshit, but you can tell this to bnp members until your blue in the face and they just aint listening, they'll just tell you that we got to do the same shit we did in burnley, even though this is a different town with different problems.

Yes but between 1982 and 1999 the BNP was an tiny fringe group which wasn't really going anywhere and was a mere shadow of the 70's NF. Even as late as 1997 there was talk of an merger between the BNP and the NF as the NF name was more well known.Learn your history, if people hadn't worked their arses off back then then there would be no bnp today and at the very least you'd be doing the same ground work they had to. It was going places and you can see the results today. You think it just upped and became what it was overnight? So who does JT plans to hand the leadership over to if he wins? I have got an idea of who it might be.How would I know? he's been smart enough not to reveal it, guess away all you want, you're probably just as likely to be wrong as you are to be right.he's totally out manouvered the rest of the party, the most they can do is sit and guess. actually my bet is it's someone who is going to be a total suprise, I'm sure it will come as a shock when it happens, it won't be the obvious, because if it was the obvious we would have all guessed and there would be no need for secrets, the fact it is a secret says it ain't anyone like people thinks it is. it's probably someone who has been out of the scene or out the country for a while but is a big name to those in the right places. what are the ng diehards going to do when he rides into victory on his white charger? I personally can't wait, I think we are going to see some major shake ups and anyone who has got to far in to bed with the wrong people and to far out of bed with the right people are going to be finished, it's the die hards following mr griffin who are comitting suicide, most of the party is being honest and open, but those who repeat his mantra, they are writing themselves out of history as we speak. You want to make sure you're no where to close to his arse when the shit hits the fan.

So have you ever been to Luton? I went to see Scunny play them a couple of years back. It is just as bad as any Pennine town. If the BNP have no group there then they are obviously missing out on a lot of potential votes. One of our lot was spat at by Pakies because he was wearing an England shirt. I've never seen that in Lancashire or Yorkshire, so that told me how bad Luton is.
Yer i have been to Luton, they have a serious paki muslim problem there, I have heard that muslims there openly support and praise Bin Laden in public. :mad:

The only person talking of merging the NF & BNP was Nick Griffin. He had this dream of taking the NF name, this was all done in secret as he was already plotting to take over the BNP. And he thought he was clever when he was wining and dining Front Nationale guys in London. Really spilled his guts he did, and all the while it was a searchlies sting. The biggest mistake JT made was to stick up for him after that, it was a brilliant oportunity to get rid of the slag!its always the front nationale that he spills to, he obviously gets a major hard on over them, it was le pen he gabbed to about the letting non-whites in to the party shit, thats where he fucked that one up because le pen went and plastered the truth all over the french papers before the euro elections and ages before ngs bullshit big debate. by the way did you ever spot the date mistake on that one? old griffin boy slipped up there too, and they think he's a master tactician?

Yer i have been to Luton, they have a serious paki muslim problem there, I have heard that muslims there openly support and praise Bin Laden in public. :mad:you see it ain't a muslim problem there, read my post, you have plenty of pakis and other browns there who ain't muslims, thats why the locals are going to reject all this islam shit, they see the issues as immigration and rescuing their town from non-whites, they don't give a fuck about islam. they have sikhs, hindus, buddhists, the lot there, and they know it, so they ain't going to take to kindly to someone riding into town and telling them it's something different.

so now you suddenly are aware that we are still called nazis, well thats a positive step forward, we can drop that bullshit from this debate, now you say you know lots of people who have heard about ng, well your a nationalist, so these are the sort of people who know nationalists, I'm talking about the people you don't know, the other 60,000,000 now get out into your high street and research them because we will never win an election based around what yer mates know. *sigh* kids these day...
Yes I know they still call us nazis and have known that for time. The people who I was talking about aren't nationalists but they have still heard of Nick Griffin. I think that any person who is reasonable educated and knows about current affairs and politics would of heard of Nick Griffin.

Yes I know they still call us nazis and have known that for time. The people who I was talking about aren't nationalists but they have still heard of Nick Griffin. I think that any person who is reasonable educated and knows about current affairs and politics would of heard of Nick Griffin.but most people aint reasonably educated or know anything about current affiars, if they did do you think we'd have blair?

you see it ain't a muslim problem there, read my post, you have plenty of pakis and other browns there who ain't muslims, thats why the locals are going to reject all this islam shit, they see the issues as immigration and rescuing their town from non-whites, they don't give a fuck about islam. they have sikhs, hindus, buddhists, the lot there, and they know it, so they ain't going to take to kindly to someone riding into town and telling them it's something different.
In Luton the majority of their non-white population are paki muslims and these pakis go around Luton town openly praising Bin Laden and carrying posters saying that Islam will dominate Britain, then people there will see Islam as the major threat. But the situation is different in every town and the approach to deal with the immigrant problem needs to reflect that.

The only person talking of merging the NF & BNP was Nick Griffin.
True. This is another embarrassing fact that Griffin is keen to ensure that ordinary members don't find out about.

About two years ago, Griffin was in secret talks with the NF, trying to get them to hand everything over to him. No doubt his masters would have been pleased to see everything nicely consolidated.

Unfortunately for him, but fortunately for the rest of us, the talks failed. The usual abuse followed - 'NF Nazis', 'losers' etc.

In Luton the majority of their non-white population are paki muslims and these pakis go around Luton town openly praising Bin Laden and carrying posters saying that Islam will dominate Britain, then people there will see Islam as the major threat. But the situation is different in every town and the approach to deal with the immigrant problem needs to reflect that.listen right, no disrespect or nothing, but I used to live in luton, I think I have a fiar idea of what the town is like and what problems the people relate to. I lived all round that area, luton, bedford, milton keynes, then I took up with a skin from bury st edmonds and moved over there and spent a short time living in lowestoft and in peterborough, i still have loads of friends in all those places so I do kind of know what issues people care about there. If I started telling you what the problems are in your town would you listen to me or would you say to me "wut the fuck do you know?" well thats what the bnp are doing. They are telling, they ain't listening. even tony blaird and william hague had their big conversations, it might have been all bullshit but at least they took the time to listen, what has the bnp done? You want to wait till the new guy is in charge and then see the differences, can you imagine it? a young bynamic man to take the mantle over from JT, a man whos reputation is not dirty like any other leader, who is young, dynamic, who is listening to the public, who is exciting to the public and who sticks to the real issues that the public care about, no seel outs, but still modern and still a face to leave all the others in the past, can you see it? can you see us following this man to victory, or can you see us following on behind a man who is getting more and more podgy each year, is unknown to most of the public, who is classed as a nazi, who has sold out every principal we've ever stood for and has split the party by doing so? which way do you think victory lies?

True. This is another embarrassing fact that Griffin is keen to ensure that ordinary members don't find out about.

About two years ago, Griffin was in secret talks with the NF, trying to get them to hand everything over to him. No doubt his masters would have been pleased to see everything nicely consolidated.

Unfortunately for him, but fortunately for the rest of us, the talks failed. The usual abuse followed - 'NF Nazis', 'losers' etc.
And where is your evidence of this? All you seem to do is spread rumours and half-truths.

listen right, no disrespect or nothing, but I used to live in luton, I think I have a fiar idea of what the town is like and what problems the people relate to. I lived all round that area, luton, bedford, milton keynes, then I took up with a skin from bury st edmonds and moved over there and spent a short time living in lowestoft and in peterborough, i still have loads of friends in all those places so I do kind of know what issues people care about there. If I started telling you what the problems are in your town would you listen to me or would you say to me "wut the fuck do you know?" well thats what the bnp are doing. They are telling, they ain't listening. even tony blaird and william hague had their big conversations, it might have been all bullshit but at least they took the time to listen, what has the bnp done? You want to wait till the new guy is in charge and then see the differences, can you imagine it? a young bynamic man to take the mantle over from JT, a man whos reputation is not dirty like any other leader, who is young, dynamic, who is listening to the public, who is exciting to the public and who sticks to the real issues that the public care about, no seel outs, but still modern and still a face to leave all the others in the past, can you see it? can you see us following this man to victory, or can you see us following on behind a man who is getting more and more podgy each year, is unknown to most of the public, who is classed as a nazi, who has sold out every principal we've ever stood for and has split the party by doing so? which way do you think victory lies?
Well I have been to Luton, Bedford and Milton Keynes aswell and know what them towns are like and the problems that they face, they have all got a asylum seeker/immigration problem.
I wonder who this hardline yet young and dynamic man with a clean history is? who as you say is going to save the BNP. Are you sure that you are not making him up.

And where is your evidence of this? All you seem to do is spread rumours and half-truths.
It's true, and it gets worse, what about CDA and Right now!?

Well I have been to Luton, Bedford and Milton Keynes aswell and know what them towns are like and the problems that they face, they have all got a asylum seeker/immigration problem.
I wonder who this hardline yet young and dynamic man with a clean history is? who as you say is going to save the BNP. Are you sure that you are not making him up.JTs plans to hand over the riegns are in the public domain, I'm just repeating what the world has read. So what way do you want to go? what is it about for you? policies or personalities? if it's policies then you can't possibly follow griffin and his seel outs, and if it's personalities then shouldn't you wait to see the new guy instead of following the dodgy ng?

JTs plans to hand over the riegns are in the public domain, I'm just repeating what the world has read. So what way do you want to go? what is it about for you? policies or personalities? if it's policies then you can't possibly follow griffin and his seel outs, and if it's personalities then shouldn't you wait to see the new guy instead of following the dodgy ng?
Where abouts in the public domain? Tell me where and i will have a look. Well for me its a mixture of policies and personalities.

Ken Dodd is a good personality :D

Regarding the notion of combining the BNP and the NF as a Griffin idea. That is true ! I still have the TV programme on video. It was THE COOK REPORT from 1998. Nick Griffin was taken for a sucker by Roger Cook and his team.

It was this very programme that confirmed to John Tyndall ,that Mr.Griffin was planning to take over the BNP.

Where abouts in the public domain? Tell me where and i will have a look. Well for me its a mixture of policies and personalities.You'll have to google JT's speeches and you'll find it in there somwhere, he states that the election is to remove the current incumbent, nick griffin, for all his sell outs and the dangerous and destructive path he is leading the bnp down and that his aim is to hand the riegns over to a better man. You know how old JT is? do you think he really has any plans to be top dog for long? it doesn't make sense does it, no he has stated what his aims and priorities are and all you have to do is google his searches to read it for yourself. So let me ask you a question ok? you want whats best for the party right? so I'm saying that is to put it back into nationalist hands and I've showed why I believe it's not in nationalist hands now and I've shown plenty of real sell outs to back this up and I have also said that I believe the party is best in the hands of a new, dynamic and unblemished leader who the public can relate to and rally around, that's not such a bad vision is it? But at the end of the day you have to believe in it to persue it and I'm sure you are being fed lots of spin from the other side, I mean remember the differences here, griffins spin machine is in full flow, but here you are just talking to ordinary members voicing their views, not professionals working for anyone, so how do you know which way to jump? well if you want the best for the party surely you have to go for the people that are right? so let me ofer you a challange, you go off and ask the griffin camp how many votes that the BNP is going to get at the next general election and then come back here and post that result, then we'll put up how many seats we say they are going to get, now remember you are going first, so the griffin camp should win this wager right? But I bet you our prediction is closer, now if we are right it shows we know more and have a better eye for policy and public opinion, if the ng camp is right then it shows that things are the other way around, so then you'll know where things stand, you can then vote for the candidate of the group who we will all know were right, and that has to be the best way forward right? do you love the nationalist movement to take up this challange (and to be fair, if it goes the other way around I'll vote ng) fair deal?

Ken Dodd is a good personality :Dhe's also a bit more right wing and nationalist than nick griffin.

he's also a bit more right wing and nationalist than nick griffin.

Well they are both clowns paid to make people laugh! Well I suspect that's why Griffen joined the BNP (not made me laugh much). Think we should ask for our money back! :(

What is Nick the prick good at???

"Whether people support my challange or whether they support Mr. Griffin, they have to admit one thing to be glaringly obvious. The BNP at the present time is a deeply divided party, with a great deal of controversy raging over leadership and policy. It is time for this controversy to be put to a vote of the whole membership. Which way do the members want the party to go? I want to give them the opportunity to decide." John Tyndall

Its plain and simple, we want racial nationalism back inside the British National Party.

And where is your evidence of this? All you seem to do is spread rumours and half-truths.
You really are badly informed aren't you?

It was even commented upon in national newspapers.

What is Nick the prick good at?
Fleecing the gullible.

Anyone know the rules for a leadership contest. Someone on Sormfront said he was thinking of joining the BNP to vote for JT.Then a Griffin supporter said you have to be a member for two years before you are allowed to vote. Then more recently,Odins-Arse said the new influx of 8,000 (?) members would be voting for NG. So what's the truth.

NG at his best.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1505000/images/_1506841_nickgriffin150.jpg
Who has the better public image i wonder JT or NG?

Yeah Nicky Boy Gagging other people is his best assest !

Yeah Nicky Boy Gagging other people is his best assest !

Blind to the truth & not only in one eye, Nick the prick is no lover of freedom as he and his band of sellout Nationalists have proved recently re: JT (amoung many other issues).

His snake in the grass mod on stormfront old JewTree is a true follower and carries out his work silencing real WN on SF with great zeel. Oldjewtree is always happy to ban good WN who speak the true about his jew friends, he is also more than happy to delete anti-griffin & anti-jewish posts by real WN.

The Griffinites are trying to throw a smokescreen up to hide their real aims from BNP membership. Centralized command & no talking back will be the order of the day. Members & Branches that try to think for themselves will be removed.

Then the BNP will then dance to the states tune and certain leading members will hope to be looked after by their jewish masters for the good job they have done destroying REAL WN in the UK.

The latest attempt by the syncophants of the one eyed wonders boot lickers to expell a true white nationalist (John Tyndall ) should be enough for all true white nationalists to come to the aid of this true racial comrade.

Comment to Labomber - your days are numbered you failed terrorist :D

Blind to the truth & not only in one eye, Nick the prick is no lover of freedom ......

What about your own physical and medical disabilities? Isnt it gross, and the sign of a loser that you have to trumpet Griffin having lost an eye.

Whilst the jew and Muslim is destroying Europe by demographic swamping, your posts are either puerile personal abuse about a fellow white nationalist Nick Griffin, or else you regaling all with your ass-boring sob-story saga about how you got kicked off Stor***ont.

Britain needs a leader that doesnt have Noddies queuing up behind them. With supporters like you behind him :rolleyes: , Tyndall doesnt need enemies.

What about your own physical and medical disabilities? Isnt it gross, and the sign of a loser that you have to trumpet Griffin having lost an eye.

Whilst the jew and Muslim is destroying Europe by demographic swamping, your posts are either puerile personal abuse about a fellow white nationalist Nick Griffin, or else you regaling all with your ass-boring sob-story saga about how you got kicked off Stor***ont.

Britain needs a leader that doesnt have Noddies queuing up behind them. With supporters like you behind him :rolleyes: , Tyndall doesnt need enemies.

Jizm, I don't think anyone cares what you think about anything anymore! :rolleyes:

Onion-Eyes: You forgot Tyndalls left hand man Eddy Morrison, he too is a state-agent. Fine pair to challenge with at your side, eh What can Tyndall be thinking of?


This stupid Brummie tart has been at the sherry again. The way she acts and attacks fellow WN - WTF is her agenda ?

Eddy a state agent ?

I know this not to be true.

Now Ebanks ? Well some have asked whether she is 'British' ?

Never met her, and I would like to forego the pleasure, or otherwise

Eddy a state agent ?

I know this not to be true.

Now Ebanks ? Well some have asked whether she is 'British' ?

Never met her, and I would like to forego the pleasure, or otherwise

Yeah the fat tart can blab her mouth off on a internet board and thinks she can get away with this nonsense. She is claiming JT mentioned Eddy was a state spy in a 1983 Spearhead article. Since Sharon (give me another drink) Ebanks has only been involved since 1999, just who is feeding this whore with the information....makes you think!

The only thing of concern to me at the moment, is why Tyndall is challenging with two state grasses, and why people want to support him in that action.
Forget the govt and the press, they will write their sh1te no matter what, but Britains only hope is being destroyed by squabble, why? Surely we cannot blame a half Turk, and a jewess, it goes much deeper than that.


I think it won't be long before the men in the white coats come for her :D

She is claiming JT mentioned Eddy was a state spy in a 1983 Spearhead article.
Has anyone verified this?

Was EM not expelled from both the NF and BNP?

Yeah the fat tart can blab her mouth off on a internet board and thinks she can get away with this nonsense. She is claiming JT mentioned Eddy was a state spy in a 1983 Spearhead article. Since Sharon (give me another drink) Ebanks has only been involved since 1999, just who is feeding this whore with the information....makes you think!

Well she did me a favour anyway. Reading her posts convinced me that White Nationalism is in dire danger of being destroyed by people of her ilk. Her 'manner' only offends, I am sure that she is losing Griffin supporters as we speak. REAL White Nationalists detest her. Long may she continue to post her extremely arrogant point of view of Stormfront.

Muzzz Ebanks herself is now complaining about the disappearance of BNP members from the forum.

I believe that this is their plan. Ebanks is the main instigator, but she is the 'butchers block'.

Muzzz Ebanks herself is now complaining about the disappearance of BNP members from the forum.

I believe that this is their plan. Ebanks is the main instigator, but she is the 'butchers block'.

That stupid Brummie tart is the best recruiting sergant the Tyndall camp has ever had.

JT never refered to me as a "State Spy" in 1983 - we had a fall out over direct action tatcics is all. Tony Lecomber is the only one to call me a State Spy - which he calls everyone anyway! Pot calling kettle? I have been a member of the NF - and I was NEVER expelled but resigned as has tried to get it moving again (2000 AGM which I chaired). I have NEVER been expelled from the BNP but resigned when Griffin became leader.

JT never refered to me as a "State Spy" in 1983 - we had a fall out over direct action tatcics is all. Tony Lecomber is the only one to call me a State Spy - which he calls everyone anyway! Pot calling kettle? I have been a member of the NF - and I was NEVER expelled but resigned as has tried to get it moving again (2000 AGM which I chaired). I have NEVER been expelled from the BNP but resigned when Griffin became leader.

I think it's time to step this up a gear Eddy.
We should have finished Griffin years ago when we had the chance, some of us made the mistake of letting him off the hook and giving him a second chance.
Not this time.
It's time to finish it once and for all, he's a slimey opportunist, always was, flitting from one idea to the next, whatever he felt benefited him the most.

I think it's time to step this up a gear Eddy.
We should have finished Griffin years ago when we had the chance, some of us made the mistake of letting him off the hook and giving him a second chance.
Not this time.
It's time to finish it once and for all, he's a slimey opportunist, always was, flitting from one idea to the next, whatever he felt benefited him the most.

Totally agree Comrade.

I remember in the mid 1980's to 1990's as an active member of the official NF seeing Nationalism Today (old NF mag) with Gadaffi on it, worse still he was being praised. NF News (old NF newspaper) was also full of praise for various Islamic leaders including the American Nigger Islamic leader fahracoon.

After a few months most of the Skins stopped going to meets as did other WNs. This ended paper sales, we could not sell that trash at football matches or anywhere else(we'd have been lynched and rightly so).

Next we hear Griffin and Holland are off to see Gadaffi (cap in hand) on the scrounge for cash. They came back with loads of Gadaffi's Green book to sale (they had been given). Griffin said there was no cash given, just Islamic books? :rolleyes: Next thing the cunt is trying to sell them at NF meetings!

In the mid 1980's NF was very stronge in East Anglia, meeting I went to usualy had about 40 to 50 regular locals. By the time Griffin been running things for a few years, meeting had less than 20 on a good day!

Now he hates Islam does he?

Did he not get paid for all that Islamic bootlicking?

Most BNP members don't really know about Nicky Griffin and his opportunist ways. Well sadly for Nicky we do, we remember what he did to the NF!

I remember in the mid 1980's to 1990's as an active member of the official NF seeing Nationalism Today (old NF mag) with Gadaffi on it, worse still he was being praised. NF News (old NF newspaper) was also full of praise for various Islamic leaders including the American Nigger Islamic leader fahracoon.

Nationalism Today - What a rag that was :rolleyes:

As a B.N.P. member since the party was formed and someone who voted for J.T. in the last contest I would like to make some observations.

I'm sorry to say J.T. has not a snowball in hells chance of winning a Leadship contest. The vast majority of B.N.P. members have never heard of him. In the group that I am active, out of the 100 members 95% have only ever known N.G. as Leader. Another reason people will not support J.T. (probably including myself), is that we have no wish to go back to the days of marching around back streets etc etc, which going by what J.T's leading supporters say is what he wants to do. I can't see anything wrong with the country having several nationalist Organisations, as long as they don't stand against each other at election time.

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Just read an article on the BNP website by Chairman Mao,sorry chairman Nick Griffin,about BNP writers.I won't deny he says some good points.Then he comes out with this. There are avery significant number of good & decent Jews,such as Israel Shahak & Jonathan Sacks ,who can get away with criticising the ferocious racism of some of their less pleasant brethren,but doesn't mean that we can. For anyone not in the know,Jonathan Sacks is the chief rabbi of the UK. [LEFT]www.bnp.org.uk/articles/race_act.htm [LEFT]

Jonathan Sacks is a monster.

Nice of Griffin to let everyone know who his friends are.

Is Jonathan Sacks , the Chief Rabbi, a "good and decent jew" (according to Nick Griffin), a member of the BNP now or the Trafalgar Club ?

The BNP are bound to win with the 'Chief rabbi' on their side . :rolleyes:

I can't wait for the crap that some BNP officials, including in the North West, will churn out in support of this comment. Sooner them trying to do the mental gymnastics than me. :D




"The first black member can have my membership card !"

I for one would find it hard to put out propaganda for the BNP at the moment because all I am doing is putting cash in NG's pocket and confusing more White folk. That being said I work about eight hours a day in one way or another in promoting White Nationalism. I am forbidden to be a member of the BNP but THE moment we take our Movement back I for one will be out with leaflets(and stickers and posters too!)
I am also very committed to bringing ALL WN's into one greater Movement. WE must never forget the thousands upon thousands of independent WN's out there who need organising. We have had a lot of success in Leeds through the SG in reactivating veteran NF members we thought we had lost for ever.
Beefy-Joe - Dave F. - Sp**e -Dave B - and a lot more besides - all back and wanting action.
The SG's work goes beyond backing JT (our main platform)and works for unity too.
Eddy

I for one would find it hard to put out propaganda for the BNP at the moment because all I am doing is putting cash in NG's pocket and confusing more White folk. That being said I work about eight hours a day in one way or another in promoting White Nationalism. I am forbidden to be a member of the BNP but THE moment we take our Movement back I for one will be out with leaflets(and stickers and posters too!)
I am also very committed to bringing ALL WN's into one greater Movement. WE must never forget the thousands upon thousands of independent WN's out there who need organising. We have had a lot of success in Leeds through the SG in reactivating veteran NF members we thought we had lost for ever.
Beefy-Joe - Dave F. - Sp**e -Dave B - and a lot more besides - all back and wanting action.
The SG's work goes beyond backing JT (our main platform)and works for unity too.
Eddy

I agree with the above 100 % ! :cool:

I voted for JT :D He had his party stole off him by scum!!!

I voted for JT :D He had his party stole off him by scum!!!

digging deep now peter to stir the shit

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The clock is ticking.....Griffin's days are numbered.

Lets make the British National Party - A white people's party once again!

We are still waiting mate :o

YouTube - British National Party Election Broadcast, 1997

I wonder what tripe Griffin will allow in the BNP Euro broadcast ? Anyone hazard a guess ?

YouTube - British National Party Election Broadcast, 1997 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMznu63mGdI)

I wonder what tripe Griffin will allow in the BNP Euro broadcast ? Anyone hazard a guess ?

it isnt up to griffin, its up to the censors on each tv channel as to what they will allow

it isnt up to griffin, its up to the censors on each tv channel as to what they will allow

I'm sure he knew that really, he just couldn't resist a chance to stir something other than his yoghurt enema or his wife's potato latke mix for a change. ;)

I'm sure he knew that really, he just couldn't resist a chance to stir something other than his yoghurt enema or his wife's potato latke mix for a change. ;)

please dont mock holloways wife, she's had a hard life ...............................................................









................................she nearly ended up as a bar of soap in one of the camps she was in :eek:

please dont mock holloways wife, she's had a hard life ...............................................................









................................she nearly ended up as a bar of soap in one of the camps she was in :eek:

And now she just lathers John. T.J.B.

Reading through this thread from the start it becomes very clear how low the VNN UK forum has dropped since those days.
Ever since that dope Southcoast Sid was unfortunately allowed to moderate the forum till he was kicked out.
But since he released the inmates of the monkey house and drove off the WNs the forum has never recovered.
Even the Knickerless Wonder found another opening for disseminating her crap, but luckily the admin here were wise enough not to give her any modding rights here.

Reading through this thread from the start it becomes very clear how low the VNN UK forum has dropped since those days.
Ever since that dope Southcoast Sid was unfortunately allowed to moderate the forum till he was kicked out.
But since he released the inmates of the monkey house and drove off the WNs the forum has never recovered.
Even the Knickerless Wonder found another opening for disseminating her crap, but luckily the admin here were wise enough not to give her any modding rights here.

so says the pervert married to a jewT.J.B.