Evo da imate malo materijala za smirit seratore koji seruckaju....

pitanje ovog debila Euvipro...ima slatki post u kojemu je smrad IRANAC jebote i to đubre živi u Nizozemskoj!!!!!!!!!!!


Originally Posted by Euvipro

What? Don't all Syrians have the latest cell phones?

Tulpar wrote:

Oh please do not give me that. We might not be on the same boat, but on different boats who's design is basically the same.

You are from Iran (right?), but you are White and dislike that your ex-white country has fallen to mongrelization and Islamization (both of course comes in pair). You do not associate with Iranian mongrel immigrants who hangs with maghrebins, middle easterns.

I am from Syria, I am White and I dislike that my ex-white country has fallen to mongrelization and Islamization. I do not associate with Syrian mongrel immigrants who hangs with maghrebins, middle easterns.


http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=973559&postcount=171

Euvipro is Dutch.

yes, and I am eskimo hahahahahaha

Euvipro is Dutch.

as you are russian:rolleyes:
fucking golden horde offspring...

Evo jedan clip za tulavog Rusa...

YouTube - Croats Bombing Leningrad 1942

YouTube - War Bombings in Dubrovnik

This needs to happen more often :D

YouTube - War Bombings in Dubrovnik (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmBvEnfQICk)

This needs to happen more often :D


...and you call your self a White activist ????....

.. this is realy shity even from you, KGB bastard .... ask Serbs what they think about this ...

.. now i understand why yours familie KGB moved on directive from Kreml in US ... becouse you dont have any pride or sence for nacional customs, you are realy discusting...

...do you understand what you posted here?...

...and you call your self a White activist ????....
What's wrong with bombing Asiatics?

You posted a vid of Asiatics bombing White civilians what's wrong with Whites bombing Asiatics?


...do you understand what you posted here?...
Yeah a bunch of Asiatics being bombed.

You're the Avar not me.

What's wrong with bombing Asiatics?

You posted a vid of Asiatics bombing White civilians what's wrong with Whites bombing Asiatics?


Yeah a bunch of Asiatics being bombed.

You're the Avar not me.

in yours oppinion:
Croats are Asiatic

Hungarians are Asiatic

Italians are Asiatic

etc....etc...etc...

Only Russians are White becouse the are fuck product of Finland drunken Knight and Mongolian bitch and becouse of that Russians are White...

Intresting...

Is that told to you by yours father when he was silver, and talk racionaly about his agansment in big, happy familie of KGB... and today you as his proud son walking on his betrayl footsteps whit this new "truth" about world...

You KGB agents are realy idiots, you are so easy to find....Tito was hunted and killed all KGB agents only in one month...

in yours oppinion:
Croats are Asiatic

Hungarians are Asiatic

Italians are Asiatic
No in my opinion Hungarians and Italians are White, you're Asiatic.

yes, and I am eskimo hahahahahaha

No you're a South Asiatic not a North Asiatic.

Hungary and Croatia share a border, and the Arabic countries don't share a border with either country. They're further south. At some of the countries in between like Albania, Kosovo, Romania you will find mixed people, but there are still white people in those countries. just few and far between. Croatia and Hungary are both mostly white.

http://www.footysip.com/euro2008/wp-content/gallery/croatia/croatian_girl.jpg

http://www.footysip.com/euro2008/wp-content/gallery/croatia/croatian_girls.jpg

http://www.totallyupyours.com/files/def_48e4a3eb33b3a.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2804/macarenalionelmessimm4.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8813/torcida5jpgwwwwwwwwwwwwyz6.jpg

http://www.jutarnji.hr/EPHResources/Images/2006/10/12/nav2.jpg

http://web2.slobodnadalmacija.hr/Portals/0/images/2008-08-29/sport/torcida01.jpg
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/060816/debi5.jpg


http://urednik.slobodnadalmacija.hr/Portals/0/images/2008-08-11/Sport/torcida-100808Thumbnail.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7858/rijeka9798rk6.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3525/kolaztsh3yj.jpg


I think that we Croats look prety White ...

hahahahahahahahahahha
Croats is't white???
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
psiho, you are probably 101% right:):):)
Croats is't white...they are yellouw-black-red...something betwen....
101% right???
O yes...I just wrote 101 because you ortodoy asiats-ortodox inovate this procents ower 100 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
How you like to say?(serbas and rusians)100 time repeat lie will with time accept like true?..ower 100% is just one ,,argument,,more


Did you even know what you wrote here man?Do you really understand whit witch nation you tray to speak here???????

Please don't blame yourself..or just don't do that here on Croatia subforum...
You must read..then read..again read....and all time you must eat lott of spinach, and drink lott of milk...maybe-just maybe, you will grow up(in biological meaning not in race meaning..in race meaning you and yout people must take tousend and tousend years and mix with white people-maybe then your nation will grow up in race meaning) and your brain maybe then will have oportunity to understand whit who you traying to talk

Hungary and Croatia share a border, and the Arabic countries don't share a border with either country. They're further south. At some of the countries in between like Albania, Kosovo, Romania you will find mixed people, but there are still white people in those countries. just few and far between. Croatia and Hungary are both mostly white.

KOSOVO IS NOT A COUNTRY! :mad:
IT IS PART OF SERBIA!

hahahahahahahahahahha
Croats is't white???
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
psiho, you are probably 101% right:):):)
Croats is't white...they are yellouw-black-red...something betwen....
101% right???
O yes...I just wrote 101 because you ortodoy asiats-ortodox inovate this procents ower 100 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
How you like to say?(serbas and rusians)100 time repeat lie will with time accept like true?..ower 100% is just one ,,argument,,more


Did you even know what you wrote here man?Do you really understand whit witch nation you tray to speak here???????

Please don't blame yourself..or just don't do that here on Croatia subforum...
You must read..then read..again read....and all time you must eat lott of spinach, and drink lott of milk...maybe-just maybe, you will grow up(in biological meaning not in race meaning..in race meaning you and yout people must take tousend and tousend years and mix with white people-maybe then your nation will grow up in race meaning) and your brain maybe then will have oportunity to understand whit who you traying to talk
Wtf is this shit? More Khazar babble, I thought we killed all of you 800 years ago, seems it wasn't enough :(

Round two then.


KOSOVO IS NOT A COUNTRY! :mad:
IT IS PART OF SERBIA!

Don't mind him he has some absurd belief that there are White people living in Albania, about as many White people there as there as there is mountain gold in California. Btw don't forget Hurwats think these people are kewl, fucking Caucasian scum.

Wtf is this shit? More Khazar babble, I thought we killed all of you 800 years ago, seems it wasn't enough :(

Round two then.



Don't mind him he has some absurd belief that there are White people living in Albania, about as many White people there as there as there is mountain gold in California. Btw don't forget Hurwats think these people are kewl, fucking Caucasian scum.

Elf,
go away from here.
About Albanians...I not like them to mutch, but they is probably whiter of asiats...And for shure albanians don't lie how ortodox asiats do:)

Where are all the Hurwat apologizers now? Hurwats are constantly demonstrating their love for sub-human shitskins like Albanians. Oh wait, but then Hurwats are of the same pedigree and equally pro-NATO/EU collaborating sub-human scum as the Albanians. No, in fact, both NATO members nowadays: «Obama welcomes Albania, Croatia to NATO (http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3696989,00.html)».

So Dale VanDerMeer (part-Hurwat/Bosnian ‘Dutch’ Amerikenyan?), what about it huh? Should people be 'tarded for not loving NATO and the EU?

I don't see anyone ever defending the Russians when they're being called “Asiats” (I assume they mean ‘Asians’ in their broken spic-like English). But then I guess even VNN is subject to dual standards and forms of affirmative action. Equal rights for Kavkaz niggers! :o

ooo we see
albania
belgium
bulgaria
canada
croatia
czek rep
denmark
estonia
france
germany
greece
hungary
iceland
italy
latvia
lituania
luxemburg
netherlands
norway
poland
portugal
romania
slovakia
slovenia
spain ect ect
but croatia is eyesore:)whay?

And don't up side down who first start with insulting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Croats here not insult noone. We just ,,return ball,, when insulting start.
We not go on russian subforum or any other subforum and start insult on other subforum...but they come here and start insult Croats on Croatia subforum!!!!!
So, I say again-go away from here-we not call you..we not want your stupidity here...

See, that's my point exactly: The “Croatia” sub-forum is an insult to Whites.

See, that's my point exactly: The “Croatia” sub-forum is an insult to Whites.

so whay you even come here if you not liked? ?????
Someone push you to come here and read and coment here?????
Or you tink that somehow you will distroy this subforum????
Onestly..I really tink and seriusly tinking about left this forum when I se that here come ortodoxasiats...fuuuj

You still keep on calling Russian and Serbians “Asiats” (‘Asians’?), correct? Hey, are all you Hurwat-lovers paying attention!? There's “White unity” and “petty in-fighting” for you!

Where are all the Hurwat apologizers now? Hurwats are constantly demonstrating their love for sub-human shitskins like Albanians. Oh wait, but then Hurwats are of the same pedigree and equally pro-NATO/EU collaborating sub-human scum as the Albanians. No, in fact, both NATO members nowadays: «Obama welcomes Albania, Croatia to NATO (http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3696989,00.html)».

So Dale VanDerMeer (part-Hurwat/Bosnian ‘Dutch’ Amerikenyan?), what about it huh? Should people be 'tarded for not loving NATO and the EU?

I don't see anyone ever defending the Russians when they're being called “Asiats” (I assume they mean ‘Asians’ in their broken spic-like English). But then I guess even VNN is subject to dual standards and forms of affirmative action. Equal rights for Kavkaz niggers! :o

Did'nt Albanians and Croats f-ed your shitly mongrel family that you hate? :)

You still keep on calling Russian and Serbians “Asiats” (‘Asians’?), correct? Hey, are all you Hurwat-lovers paying attention!? There's “White unity” and “petty in-fighting” for you!


You said that you are Iranian from Nederland...and what the fuck you want here?

Go suck dick to Rud Gullit and those nigger representatives....what is your nation?

In what fucking Bawana- Banana -Country you live?

Do something coward, dont cry here, go work something.

Tomorow you will return to yours classroom who is infested with niggers, but i think that isnt yours problem niggers in classroom, real problem is: nigger giving pussy to all but you aint getting it, becouse you have small dick.

Did'nt Albanians and Croats f-ed your shitly mongrel family that you hate? :)
Shitskin, we'll see who'll be laughing once Amerikenya comes falling down. That will be anytime soon! No more Amerikenya to protect your ragged Turk hybridized shitskin asses.

Your whining in front of the talmudvision cameras for sympathy once that time comes won't do much good either then, by now your Untermenschen swine excuse of a people pack of shitskin beasts are known all over Europe by now, as they've infested and stank up the place so badly (wherever they infest the place).



You said that you are Iranian from Nederland...and what the fuck you want here?
Ah, here we have Avar Mongol Hurwat bitch-on-a-bike (as T. Garrett put it so eloquently).

I'm not an Iranian and have never said that, but to kikes and Hurwats hearsay must constitute truth (I assume it's a collective Asiatic trait). Besides, only shitskin Kavkaz niggers (this one Armenian), Polacks (a part-Jew people, the byproduct of the Pale of Settlement; I don't consider them White) and assorted sub-humans have claimed that I'm “Iranian” (which is meaningless racially, since Iran is heterogeneous like Brazil or Amerikenya is). Oh and, for your fucking information Hurwat Mongol: Iranians of racially pure Persian ancestry are more Aryan than you goddamn fucking Hurwat mongrels will ever be. Even non-White Iranians aren't such fucking Jew-whores as you are.


Go suck dick to Rud Gullit and those nigger representatives....what is your nation?
I don't watch sports, you Hurwats obviously do. Like Turks, they believe whenever they win a meaningless football match they can ‘conquer the world.’ The last time Turks won some games (including against their brothers, the Hurwats) they thought they were going to be accepted in the EU. See, that's Mongol/shitskin psychology at work!


Do something coward, dont cry here, go work something.

Tomorow you will return to yours classroom who is infested with niggers
Unlike you I'm not as dumb as a nigger and even in this country, as full of shitskins (including swarthy Mongol Hurwat immigrants) as it may be, I still belong to the upper class and attend mostly White institutions of higher education.


but i think that isnt yours problem niggers in classroom, real problem is: nigger giving pussy to all but you aint getting it, becouse you have small dick.
Oh my fucking god... Can you say?

TNB
T.N.B.

Muh dik!! ROFL. Haven't you fucking Hurwat shitskins shown us enough already what kind of fucking Kavkaz niggers you Hurwats are?! But thanks for demonstrating that once more! (What in fucking hell ever gave you the impression that VNN loves niggers and that you should be welcome in any way?!)

It's also ‘nice’ you're finally admitting that I'm indeed Dutch, as you're attacking the Netherlands and the Dutch now. Typical Hurwat Behavior (which includes TNB and TJB to a great extent also; let's say ‘Asian heritage’). Also, most Dutch — even multiculturalist indoctrinated ones — don't consider Hurwats White. They truly don't. They think they're some kind of Turk people (which is true). You know, that's why Hurwat immigrants in the Netherlands get the same privileges as other shitskins, because it'd otherwise be considered racism or discrimination of some kind to oppose them in anyway.

Besides, only shitskin Kavkaz niggers (this one Armenian), Polacks (a part-Jew people; I don't consider them White) and assorted sub-humans have claimed that I'm “Iranian”

In that case where do EirreanGoddess and Albion fit in?


By the way (and for the fifth time now, I believe), where were your biological parents, grandparents (on both sides), and great-grandparents born?

“AlbionMP” is a fucking braindead and degenerate (who openly fantasized about raping, like a goddamn nigger, and who has been banned from all the forums he ever appeared on; even here on VNN) and “EireannGoddess” is some Jew-yoke Shtetl (“New York City”) second-rate ‘glamour model’ wannabe skank (I'm sure she'd fuck any kike in order to break through as a ‘model,’ judging by the rancid pictures I've seen of her). Plus, both don't know me. They both based themselves on my posting record, which I never denied is pro-Iranian.

Please Polack, fuck off. You're boring me with your typical Jew-like slander. Enjoy all the stolen German land while it lasts. The Jew-world as it is is crumbling rapidly. So who can tell what the future will bring.

“AlbionMP” is a fucking braindead and degenerate (who openly fantasized about raping, like a goddamn nigger, and who has been banned from all the forums he ever appeared on; even here on VNN) and “EireannGoddess” is some Jew-yoke Shtetl (“New York City”) second-rate ‘glamour model’ wannabe skank (I'm sure she'd fuck any kike in order to break through as a ‘model,’ judging by the rancid pictures I've seen of her). Plus, doth don't know me. They both based themselves on my posting record, which I never denied is pro-Iranian.

Please Polack, fuck off. You're boring me with your typical Jew-like slander. Enjoy all the stolen German land while it lasts. The Jew-world as it is is crumbling rapidly. So who can tell what the future will bring.

You're so obviously a paranoid, swarthy, black-haired, black-eyed Arab living in the Netherlands. Whenever you go out to the country the paranoia probably eats you alive as you believe that all the tall, blue-eyed blonde folk are staring at you askance because of your foreign appearance.

But I'll give you some credit, because you seem to have more honour than most sand niggers do (that's not saying much, I know). Instead of insulting your heritage and your biological ancestors by lying about where they were born (the Middle East), you choose to avoid my question, which I have now asked about five times.

“Arab”? B-b-b-b-but I thought I was a dirty “Iranian” according to you and some degenerates and useless shitskins? Shit Polack, you really need to make your fucking mind up. :rofl

“Arab”? B-b-b-b-but I thought I was a dirty “Iranian” according to you and some degenerates and useless shitskins? Shit Polack, you really need to make your fucking mind up.

Most of today's Iranians look like Arabs, so they (along with yourself) might as well be Arabs.

Here are two little Iranians:

http://aminus3.s3.amazonaws.com/image/g0008/u00007450/i00421157/41c666989709a36eb660c98f26bdab3e_large.jpg

I've nothing against them, especially considering how vocal their government is about the Jew, but they've really no place in Europe and they would stick out like a sore thumb everywhere (except perhaps for Albania). They've certainly no business claiming Croats or Poles aren't White, that's for sure.

Bassanio - Aistulf is part of his real name, he has a very large name (Like most in Europe with a recorded familial history) and as for the name Aistulf- you know Aistulf who was king of the Lombards, ring any bells?

I don't watch sports, you Hurwats obviously do. Like Turks, they believe whenever they win a meaningless football match they can ‘conquer the world.’ The last time Turks won some games (including against their brothers, the Hurwats) they thought they were going to be accepted in the EU. See, that's Mongol/shitskin psychology at work!



Come on Euvipro, sports are are great activity for forging and re enforcing traditional friendships among nations :D

http://i43.tinypic.com/73ec1f.jpg

Most of today's Iranians look like Arabs, so they (along with yourself) might as well be Arabs.
Many Polacks look like Turks and Jews. I guess I should start calling you a Turk then (unfortunately Jew won't be a possibility, since it's bannable).

All those Polacks I see in the Netherlands look pretty sub-human to me. Well, what can I say? Pale of Settlement.


Here are two little Iranians:
So you're assuming I'm “Iranian,” basing yourself on the testimonies/theories of a bunch of shitskin Armos, Hurwats, potential rapists and NYC glamor model wannabes? Also, since when does “Iranian” mean “must-look-like-an-Arab”? Iran is a very heterogeneous country and despite that fact Iranians still call themselves “Iranian” never Arab or Turk (or very rarely, and mostly Turk/Azeri instead of Arab). You could even find blonde Iranians (like Dr. Rami, a friend of Dr. Töben; see his videos on YouTube). Actually, most non-Whites in Iran are part-Turk, just like Hurwats and you Polacks really. So, you should be able to relate to them quite well then!

Anyway, is it any wonder that the Polacks helped to facilitate the Holocaust® lie? They're on the same level as kikes, they value hearsay as much as kikes do.


I've nothing against them, especially considering how vocal their government is about the Jew, but they've really no place in Europe and they would stick out like a sore thumb everywhere (except perhaps for Albania).
But don't you love Albanians? I mean, your chorwacka bracia sure as hell seem to do! Where is Bassanio to be found then? Whenever they're demonstrating their deep love for those shitskins? Or whenever they're calling Russians “Asiats” (‘Asians’ in their broken spic-like English)? Nowhere, because you're a sneaky fucking Polack. You hate Russians and you love your goddamn fucking Khazaro-Avar brothers. You're probably also one of those fucking cunts that is pro-NATO and pro-Western Jewkraine.


They've certainly no business claiming Croats or Poles aren't White, that's for sure.
Why is that dear Polack? You know, even if you called me a fucking Congoloid nigger, it'd not change the fact that Polacks are second-rate brachiocephalic 24/7-drunk fuckfaces (infesting many European countries nowadays; more so than the “Iranians” you hate to much) and that Hurwats are Avar Mongol/Kavkaz nigger descended, Albanian-loving, NATO and EU collaborating sub-humans.


Come on Euvipro, sports are are great activity for forging and re enforcing traditional friendships among nations :D

http://i43.tinypic.com/73ec1f.jpg
They're racially 100% the same. Turks and Hurwats, same shit!!

Many Polacks look like Turks and Jews.

A few do look like Ashkenaz kikes, a few look like they've got some Mongol blood in them, but I've yet to come across a Pole that could pass for a swarthy, black-haired, black-eyed Turk.


Also, since when does “Iranian” mean “must-look-like-an-Arab”?

Since the vast majority of Iranians look like Arabs.


But don't you love Albanians? I mean, your chorwacka bracia sure as hell seem to do! is Bassanio to be found then? Whenever they're demonstrating their deep love for those shitskins?

Can you direct me to the thread in which they voiced their love for Albo muslim shitskins? And if you're talking about the NATO bombing of Serbia, then I've already covered that: Croatia, along with every other country in the region, gave Kwans and Eurokwans permission to use its airspace.


Or whenever they're calling Russians “Asiats” (‘Asians’ in their broken spic-like English)? Nowhere, because you're a sneaky fucking Polack.

Judging by the way they're being attacked, I'm assuming they weren't the instigators in these retarded flame wars. You can correct me if I'm wrong. And if I am wrong--if they did begin these flame wars--I will withdraw my support.


You hate Russians and you love your goddamn fucking Khazaro-Avar brothers.

I don't hate any White people, unlike your paranoid Arabic self.


more so than the “Iranians” you hate to much

I don't hate Iranians. They've no business in Europe, though.


and that Hurwats are Avar Mongol/Kavkaz nigger descended, Albanian-loving, NATO and EU collaborating sub-humans.


"Albanian-loving, NATO and EU collaborating..." sounds like you just described almost all of Europe.


By the way, would you mind telling me where your biological parents, grandparents (both sides), and great-grandparents were born?

Judging by the way they're being attacked, I'm assuming they weren't the instigators in these retarded flame wars. You can correct me if I'm wrong. And if I am wrong--if they did begin these flame wars--I will withdraw my support.




Bassrach , if I ever have the time to go beat the cripple duo bitch-on-a-bike and Bob the Homo I will be sure to stop by the Pale of Settlement er Poland.

Come on Euvipro, sports are are great activity for forging and re enforcing traditional friendships among nations :D

http://i43.tinypic.com/73ec1f.jpg

frendship is bigger on east...expecialy in Serbia who exept enter in EU with Turkey

http://www.predsednik.yu/mwc/pic/30/20071129182743/Turska_v.jpg
big friends

http://www.kultura.sr.gov.yu/photos/potpisivanje=protokola-srbija-turska.jpg
this is culture treaty what they made with special joy Turkish-Serbian culture unity...Yes idiot it is truth...

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=5919693&postcount=127

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd176/Invisibleman021/grb.jpg

and this sign is suspicious...right?

all what I can say: Serbs and Albanians are saim nations...

frendship is bigger on east...expecialy in Serbia who exept enter in EU with Turkey

http://www.predsednik.yu/mwc/pic/30/20071129182743/Turska_v.jpg
big friends

http://www.kultura.sr.gov.yu/photos/potpisivanje=protokola-srbija-turska.jpg
this is culture treaty what they made with special joy Turkish-Serbian culture unity...Yes idiot it is truth...
Big deal American placed slaves are admitting their love for Turkey. You're the ones who allowed them in your flying space, you're the ones who took it up the rear from the West by your own will. I hold you directly responsible for this, NATO scum , Serbia is merely the victim of Western terrorism, a door YOU opened and no one else.


http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd176/Invisibleman021/grb.jpg

and this sign is suspicious...right?


Wow what a surprise Albania knocked off the famous Byzantine two headed eagle. Are you a fucking idiot? Don't answer that.

Psihoshock, Euvipro and Twat Garret having party...
http://www.peoplecorporation.org/post_images/6424_russian-party.jpg

you can gess who is who...

Bassrach , if I ever have the time to go beat the cripple duo bitch-on-a-bike and Bob the Homo I will be sure to stop by the Pale of Settlement er Poland.


I seriously doubt you would make it out of Croatia alive. Anybody who wastes countless hours on creating graphics about Mazzone and writing several-thousand word pseudo-histories is obviously a scrawny geek.


You're the ones who allowed them in your flying space, you're the ones who took it up the rear from the West by your own will.

So Croatia isn't ruled by jews? That's news to me. :rolleyes:

What about the American, British and German fighter pilots who were bombing the living shit out of Serbia? What about all the American and Western European taxpayers who financed the bombing campaign? Dur.

What about the American, British and German fighter pilots who were bombing the living shit out of Serbia? What about all the American and Western European taxpayers who financed the bombing campaign? Dur.

Not many here defend the actions of America, and not many here defend the actions of occupied Germany either, can the same be said vice versa?

I seriously doubt you would make it out of Croatia alive. Anybody who wastes countless hours on creating graphics about Mazzone and writing several-thousand word pseudo-histories is obviously a scrawny geek.
Well I guess you wouldn't get to find out if I make it out of Croatia alive or not since I would have to stop by Poland first. :D

Btw don't tell me how to live when you're the one jerking off to jewesses at night. At least I am well in my head.



So Croatia isn't ruled by jews? That's news to me.
No Croatia is ruled by Croats, they're so easily bought out that the Jews don't need their own to be dominant in government.


What about the American, British and German fighter pilots who were bombing the living shit out of Serbia? What about all the American and Western European taxpayers who financed the bombing campaign? Dur.
At fault too but I blame Croats first and foremost for being exploitable retards. They considered even alliances with Communists as long as they got to kill some Serbs in WW2. The Croats do not care who pays them or who helps them as long as Serbs die. Croats=Scum.

Not many here defend the actions of America, and not many here defend the actions of occupied Germany either, can the same be said vice versa?


I haven't seen the Croats on here voice support for their ZOG. Maybe they have. Maybe I just missed it.

I don't support either side when it comes to the historical conflict between Serbs and Croats, because unlike some here, I consider it to be a fratricidal conflict between two white cultures, and I'm against all such bloody fratricidal conflicts.


No Croatia is ruled by Croats, they're so easily bought out that the Jews don't need their own to be dominant in government.

Practically every White country has shabbas goyim in power at the present moment. Why should we expect more from the Croats?

I haven't seen the Croats on here voice support for their ZOG. Maybe they have. Maybe I just missed it.
Maybe you missed their love for NATO and Albania or maybe you just don't see that as "ZOG" whatever the fuck that means.





Practically every White country has shabbas goyim in power at the present moment. Why should we expect any better from the Croats?
I thought you were big in reading, if you're so well read why are you unaware that they have ALWAYS acted like this?

By the way Bassrach good job making Croatia sound like a nigger ghetto by telling me you doubt id make it out alive. What other countries are like this? Israel, Afghanistan and the American ghetto. Good job protecting your friends nigga.

Maybe you missed their love for NATO and Albania or maybe you just don't see that as "ZOG" whatever the fuck that means.


One of them said that they've nothing against the Christian Whites living in Albania. Neither do I, quite frankly.

As for NATO, if they did indeed voice their love for that organization then I must retract my support. I obviously do not endorse NATO, and I've no intention of siding with people who do.


I thought you were big in reading, if you're so well read why are you unaware that they have ALWAYS acted like this?

In addition to Serbs, they also exterminated kikes and gypsies during WWII.

What happened before WWII that makes you say they've ALWAYS been shabbas goyim?


By the way Bassrach good job making Croatia sound like a nigger ghetto by telling me you doubt id make it out alive. What other countries are like this? Israel, Afghanistan and the American ghetto. Good job protecting your friends nigga.

Don't forget with what purpose you would go to Croatia.

In addition to Serbs, they also exterminated kikes and gypsies during WWII.

What happened before WWII that makes you say they've ALWAYS been shabbas goyim?
Are you fucking kidding me? That's what Serbs did, Croats gave Jews certificates of being Aryan, I am not kidding. Ask Karl Von Clausowitz.


Don't forget with what purpose you would go to Croatia.

Beat the crap out of two cripples who annoy the fuck out of their neighbors by yelling at their monitors, in broken English, at night?

Beat the crap out of two cripples who annoy the fuck out of their neighbors by yelling at their monitors, in broken English, at night?


Waiting.....are you man of honour?

Would you come to Croatia and beat the crap from ous?

You can bring frends also.

But you are coward, lier, and litle fustrated bastard behind monitor...so you arent man of honour, you just another bastard who have shity life.

In addition to Serbs, they also exterminated kikes and gypsies during WWII.

Fallacious statement, Serbia was the first of these regions to declare itself entirely Juden Frei, whereas Germany had difficulties performing the requisite duties for the establishment of a New European Order, in regions that were Croatian and Italian...specifically because these two "Aryanised" such a large segment of their jewish population it deemed to be "White enough".

I don't support either side when it comes to the historical conflict between Serbs and Croats, because unlike some here, I consider it to be a fratricidal conflict between two white cultures, and I'm against all such bloody fratricidal conflicts.

As am I, I do not glorify the death of Croatians during the Yugoslav wars, I just don't find it like'able that they do that regarding the death of Serbians. Frankly I do not care what who experienced during that conflict, it doesn't excuse the fact that they are demonstrating a verile hatred and contempt for a fellow White nation who suffered equally at the hands of their partisans and officers. This is not only denying historical fact, but also justifying further actions to be taken against a people who are undoubtably of European origin, for them to call a Serb a "Turkomongrel" and an Albanian a "White" is and should be insulting to anyone remotely serious about Racial unity.

This based in part on utter hatred for them, and in part on misconceptions about Hitlers views regarding Serbians...whom he did not hold at all responsible for the actions that ensued after the coup d'etat against the Regent of Serbia.

When cordially pointing out this to them, in as non aggressive a manner as humanly possible they instead choose the option of insulting not only me, but the Boer people in general regarding matters they know absolutely nothing about...where is this behavior indicative of WN'sm or National Socialism? To insult another Whites heritage, his nation and his people simply because he finds the manner in which they behave abhorrent.

I cannot bring myself to find this an acceptable behavior, it is objectionable and on this basis I object to it.

Bassanio if my word alone doesn't convince you here's an excerpt of the common practice of Croatia during WW2:

An interesting note in this regard is Slavko Kvaternik. [b]Marsal Kvaternik, married the daughter of Josip (Joshua) Frank, the Jewish successor to Dr. Ante Starcevic as the leader of Pavelic s party. Therefore, not only was the wife of Ante Pavelic, the Chief-of-State, Jewish, but the wife of the vice-president and Chief of the Armed Forces, police forces, and gendarmes was also a Jew. Slavko Kvaternik s son, Col. Eugen Kvaternik, Ustasa commissioner for Public Order and Security was, according to both German and Judaic law, a Jew.

Other prominent Jews in the Ustasa leadership included the Ustasa Representative to Hungary Alexander Klein, Vlado Singer of the Ustasa Police, and Pavelic s personal physician. In addition to the families of Dr. Pavelic and Marshal Kvaternik, the wife of Minister Zanic was also a Jew.

Hundreds of other Jewish leaders and officials were made "honorary Aryans," a practice that the Germans looked upon as quite serious.

Waiting.....are you man of honour?

Would you come to Croatia and beat the crap from ous?

You can bring frends also.

But you are coward, lier, and litle fustrated bastard behind monitor...so you arent man of honour, you just another bastard who have shity life.

Maybe one day when I have absolutely nothing better to do but it's pretty low priority, if you get punched in the face by a random stranger 5 years from now think back to this thread if your memory isn't completely gone by then.

Bassanio if my word alone doesn't convince you here's an excerpt of the common practice of Croatia during WW2:


Thank you for that information. I feel so disillusioned.


As am I, I do not glorify the death of Croatians during the Yugoslav wars, I just don't find it like'able that they do that regarding the death of Serbians. Frankly I do not care what who experienced during that conflict, it doesn't excuse the fact that they are demonstrating a verile hatred and contempt for a fellow White nation who suffered equally at the hands of their partisans and officers. This is not only denying historical fact, but also justifying further actions to be taken against a people who are undoubtably of European origin, for them to call a Serb a "Turkomongrel" and an Albanian a "White" is and should be insulting to anyone remotely serious about Racial unity.

This based in part on utter hatred for them, and in part on misconceptions about Hitlers views regarding Serbians...whom he did not hold at all responsible for the actions that ensued after the coup d'etat against the Regent of Serbia.

When cordially pointing out this to them, in as non aggressive a manner as humanly possible they instead choose the option of insulting not only me, but the Boer people in general regarding matters they know absolutely nothing about...where is this behavior indicative of WN'sm or National Socialism? To insult another Whites heritage, his nation and his people simply because he finds the manner in which they behave abhorrent.

I cannot bring myself to find this an acceptable behavior, it is objectionable and on this basis I object to it.

Your posting history suggests that you're a reasonable and honourable person. If this is how events transpired then I understand your grievance.

bmwbiker,

Can you tell me what you believe to be the cause of the hatred between Serbs and Croats? What happened before WWII that inspired the things that happened at Jasenovac?

Fallacious statement, Serbia was the first of these regions to declare itself entirely Juden Frei, .

man dont make me laugh..this is statment on which will even Serbian cry from laugh.

They maybe proclame that shit just like they sign alliance with Third reich...but did you ask youself why Hitler bombard them after few days?

They signed pact with Third reich and started to work against Third reich!!!

In that time Serbian king escaped in England to his masonery friends, he returned recently, and off course he started masonery lodge.

Serbs and Jews have old friendship.

, for them to call a Serb a "Turkomongrel" and an Albanian a "White" is and should be insulting to anyone remotely serious about Racial unity.

.

We can describe "white" in two ways:

1. True Aryans: Scandinavian, Slavs, Germans..that is hard description

2. Europeans: Spansh, Italians, Franks, Greek....

if you judgging on true Aryan: then Albanians arent white, but then wasnt Italians, Greeks, Spanish...

If you judgging on Europian: then Albanian is white, they was there long time ago.
Albanians are most poorest nation in Europe, but that will be changed soon, Italians investing great money in Albania (I wonder why?)

Albanians arent problem for white race, Turks, Marocans, Niggerians, Gypsies are problem... in Albania ther is no one Gypsie today.


Croats and Serbs will allways have problems..and that is ours Balcan problems, but when some retard atack ous we defend it is natural.

In Balcan there isnt no one man who wasnt involved in some kind of war (worlds or local)..that is maybe becouse all Balcan nations have little Iliric genes and Illirs was crazy bastards.

man dont make me laugh..this is statment on which will even Serbian cry from laugh.

If you really want to contest this, I can provide ample sources the prove this to be the case. As I have done below to demonstrate the falsities of your historical perceptions of truth.

They maybe proclame that shit just like they sign alliance with Third reich...but did you ask youself why Hitler bombard them after few days?Yes I lie, we all lie.

After this slap on the ear, Mussolini received from Hitler a list of
political and military measures that he had to take. It touched, among
other things, on the withdrawal of Italian fighter squadrons then
stationed along the Channel coast. These had become a liability after the
embarrassing beating the Luftwaffe had taken in the Battle of Britain.
Further, Italy was to renounce its territorial ambitions in Yugoslavia.
This later demand was connected with Hitler’s intention to recruit this
state for “positive cooperation” within the Tripartite Pact.To the German Volk!
Ever since British imperialism set out to conquer the world, it strove to
involve Europe and its people in ever new internal wars in order to weaken
them. Only too often did England find statesmen and leaders of the people, in part blinded, in part corrupt, who offered their countries to the service of
British world rule. For centuries, Jewish high finance has benefited most from these wars of conquest instigated by England. With the slogan “democracy,” this conspiracy of imperialism and capitalism has led to countless complications worldwide, and especially in Europe.

In the year 1914, these forces managed to assault Germany and to force it
into battle. The goal was the destruction of German economic life, the looting of Germany’s economic resources, and, to this end, rendering the nation defenseless. The battle then was waged not against the National Socialist Third Reich, but against the constitutional-democratic federal state.

Barely had we managed to uplift the German Volk and to lead it to a new
ascent—after the disintegration of the German economy and German life had lasted over one-and-a-half decades—through the power of the National Socialist movement before the same forces once more proclaimed their old objective: the independent Germany, recovering by itself, had to be destroyed again! And, as before, they once more believed that hired hands were most suited to bringing about the conflict.

Poland was chosen to pick a fight with Germany for no good reason and
to answer with force all efforts to secure a reasonable settlement in peaceful cooperation. Confronted with the might of the new German Wehrmacht of the Third Reich, which had been set up in the meantime, this attempt failed within a few weeks. Now Great Britain attempted by way of Norway to penetrate the

German right flank. With a few hours’ warning, it was possible to parry the
attack. In weeks of heroic struggle, it also was made to fail. German soldiers stood firm from Kirkenes to the Bight of Helgoland, and thus secured the entire German Lebensraum.

These defeats forced Churchill to search for new ways. Thus, he came to
the decision to move through Belgium and Holland, which were allied with
England, to strike at the heart of the German economy, the Ruhr. This time,
France was chosen to bear the main burden of the battle. In a historic, unique triumphant march, the German Wehrmacht frustrated this attempt also and cleansed western Europe of the English.

Rejecting my new peace proposals, Churchill now determined to throw the
weight of the British empire against Italy and, above all, to seize the North
African coast with the help of troops from New Zealand and Australia. Today, this attempt also may be regarded as having failed thanks to the cooperation of German and Italian forces.Since the beginning of the war, England has persistently striven to win the Balkans as a theater of war. Indeed, British diplomats have succeeded in first trapping Greece by offering a guarantee, following the example of the World War, and finally by abusing it for their own purposes.

The documents published today give us insight into the practice of a procedure which tries time and time again to get others to fight and bleed to death for English interests in accordance with the most ancient British recipes. In contrast to this, I have repeatedly emphasized the following:
1. that the German Volk is not in opposition to the Greek people, and
2. we will never tolerate that, as happened during the World War, a power
gains a foothold on Greek territory aiming to penetrate the German
Lebensraum from there when the time is ripe. We swept the northern flank
clean of the British. We are determined not to tolerate a like threat in the south
either.

In the service of a true consolidation of Europe, I endeavored from the day
I seized power to establish friendly relations above all with Yugoslavia.
Consciously, I forgot about everything that had happened between Germany and Serbia. Not only did I offer the Serbs the hand of the German Volk, but I also labored, as an honest broker, to assist in a review of the difficulties in the relations between Serbia and individual nations allied to Germany. Indeed, it appeared as though a relaxation of tensions was slowly but successfully replacing an unbearable atmosphere and paving the way for fruitful cooperation, not only of a political but also and above all of an economic nature. And what other goal could Germany have been pursuing in an area where it defended neither territorial nor political claims or interests?
In order to eliminate the feeling in Yugoslavia that the German policy
would either at present or in the future change to its detriment, I tried to integrate the Yugoslav state into that group of powers which are determined to build up the European continent in the future, in accordance with the principle of respect for the justified interests of all in a common work in peace and quiet.

I believed this was best suited to counteract Yugoslav fears that this objective as regards Yugoslavia was or could possibly become different from the perspective of Germany and Italy or Germany and Hungary.

I did this, although the leadership of the Yugoslav and the Greek states
were supporting the interests of the warmongers from the western democracies in a most irresponsible manner, as we know from the French documents.

On March 25, 1941, in Vienna, Yugoslavia solemnly acceded to the
Tripartite Pact. I and the entire German Volk were happy about this because it seemed to preclude an expansion of the war to the Balkans. Perhaps even the faint hope was justified finally to resolve the existing conflict through a reasonable settlement.However, barely had the ministers who had signed the treaty returned to Belgrade before elements hired by the English, a military clique forever organizing coups d’état, struck back. The government which sought peace with Germany was toppled. An official statement was published according to which this had become necessary precisely because of its policy toward Germany. Besides this, scenes took place which are a disgrace in international life, and which the German Volk as a great power is not willing to tolerate patiently. The German envoy was insulted; the German military attaché was attacked; one of his assistants, an officer, was injured; numerous officials, representatives of companies, and so on, were publicly maltreated. German exhibition halls, businesses, offices, and firms were demolished and devastated. Countless women and men were beaten up, especially our Volksdeutsche, their businesses and apartments partially plundered, and a number of ethnic Germans were murdered in the process.

These events were staged by the same creatures who, in the year 1914, had already plunged the world into nameless misfortune with the assassination at Sarajevo. And, just as at that time, the British Secret Service financed and incited this military clique of criminals. And even if the events are the same, one thing has changed:

Now, the attacked state is not the erstwhile Austria but the present
German Reich! The new Serb government has ordered a general mobilization. It has admitted to doing so secretly for days. Thus, it has revealed that it believes it to be able to have force replace peaceful relations with Germany.

The force that it has summoned will now destroy it! The German Volk does not hate the Serb people! The German Volk sees no reason, above all, to fight Croatians and Slovenes. It does not want anything from them!
The German Volk will get even with the Serb clique of criminals in
Belgrade which believes it can place itself a second time at the disposal of the British assassination attempt on peace in Europe. Now that I have had to witness once again how, over a period of eight years, we labored in vain to build up a friendship, I determined to restore tolerable relations and an order which does justice to ethnic principles in this part of Europe, in collaboration with my ally, to entrust the further representation of German interests to that power which alone—once again—seems capable of protecting law and reason. Since this morning, the German Reich is fighting the usurpers of Belgrade and those units which Great Britain is again attempting to lead from the Balkans into battle against peace in Europe.

The German Wehrmacht will not lay down its arms in this area until it has
overthrown this circle of conspirators in Belgrade for good, and the last British man has left this part of the continent as well. May the unhappy, blinded people realize that they owe all this to the worst “friend” this continent has had in the last three hundred years and continues to have: England. The German Volk has entered this fight in the knowledge that its
leadership has done everything humanly possible to spare it this confrontation. All we now ask of Providence is that it continue to protect and bless the paths of our soldiers, as it has done up to now!
Adolf Hitler

Hitler's address to the German Volk 6 April 1941

I will answer the rest below.

Fascinating Karl von Clausewitz, very interesting read!

bmwbiker,

Can you tell me what you believe to be the cause of the hatred between Serbs and Croats? What happened before WWII that inspired the things that happened at Jasenovac?


My friend...problem is in everithing: we are simmilar but we are so different.

Mostly problem come from religious reasons: Croats are chatolics and Serbs Ortodox and border of those two religions was betwen our two nations (now we have small muslim tampon zone called Bosnia).

Croats is wall of Europe. for centuries Croats defending Europe from Turks, Serbs wasnt so powerful nation as Croats and their allies(Russia, Bulgaria) wasnt powerful as Croatian(Italy, Hungary, Germany..whole Europe).

Turks was defited Serbs in first battles (Croats was fighting in those battles too as comarades) Serb was douing gerila fight (hajduk) as Croats who was under Turkis rule..

With Turks Jews come and Serbs took tactic and frendship with Jews that was make them powerful and great kingdom.

In Serbia masonery was flourishing and they start to attack and inslave Croats and croatian land..it was old Serbian idea about "great Serbia" that was in Kingdom SHS, Yugoslavia..and they tried to inslave Croatia in 1991.
They failed.

One thing about Jasenovac:

Jasenovac was small working camp for Gypsies, Jews and COMMUNIST, problem is that all communist was Serbs mostly!!!!

Jasenovac was have capacity of 1000 pepole with guards..that was shit of working camp....and guess what Serbs say: Croats killed 700 000 Serbs in Jasenovac????

Do you finding conection betwen Jewish holocaust and Ustascha killings in Jasenovac.

true noumber of death is 7 000 (it is still huge noumber of killed pepole) but that was all JEWS, COMMUNIST, GYPSIES.

In communist party Serbs was main players, in govermant, in police in army...and they started to colonise parts of Croatia...and in 1990 Croats wanted to have democraty own govermant but Serbs dont want to lose theirs jobs, flats etc...so Serbs fire up some rural idiots who started revolution (simmilar scenario like in Grusia, Georgia), we make democratis elections and established Croatian rule, that Serbs attack..they attacked hard..killed many of my pepole on realy Jewish way.

In 1990 Serbs took all weapons from croatia and then atacked ous with fucking huge army....man that was years of survival, we smugled weapons (mostly from IRA and some Germany traders) and we start to defend ous.

In one year we mannage to capture some weapons from Serbs and stabilised front line..we payed that with Vukovar (3 500 death WHITE pepole) after that it was easy....

You see Serbs was kicking ous like cat in bag, but that cat jumped out and defend itself.

Croats wasnt attacked or invaded any of Serbians land, but Serbs atacked all Croatia.

Jasenovac was small working camp for Gypsies, Jews and COMMUNIST, problem is that all communist was Serbs mostly!!!!


This seems to be confirmed by what Hitler says in his speech of "Serb clique of [communist] criminals". This clique must have been quite powerful if it managed to topple the pro-German government so easily:

The force that it has summoned will now destroy it! The German Volk does not hate the Serb people! The German Volk sees no reason, above all, to fight Croatians and Slovenes. It does not want anything from them!
The German Volk will get even with the Serb clique of criminals in
Belgrade which believes it can place itself a second time at the disposal of the British assassination attempt on peace in Europe.



Jasenovac was have capacity of 1000 pepole with guards..that was shit of working camp....and guess what Serbs say: Croats killed 700 000 Serbs in Jasenovac????

Do you finding conection betwen Jewish holocaust and Ustascha killings in Jasenovac.

true noumber of death is 7 000 (it is still huge noumber of killed pepole) but that was all JEWS, COMMUNIST, GYPSIES.


Yes, 700,000 is the accepted figure. I'm sure the real figure is much smaller. But what about all those stories about the "serbcutter" and competitions to kill as many Serbs as possible in one night? One Croat apparently managed to kill 1300 Serbs, while another killed around 600.

What can you tell me about all the jews in the Ustasa party? Psychologicalshock posted some disconcerting information.

Yes, 700,000 is the accepted figure. I'm sure the real figure is much smaller.

No that is the real figure and Croats are proud of it, the faggots just don't want to admit it here because they know they have to be decent.

The German Volk will get even with the Serb clique of criminals in
Belgrade which believes it can place itself a second time at the disposal of the British assassination attempt on peace in Europe. Now that I have had to witness once again how, over a period of eight years, we labored in vain to build up a friendship, I determined to restore tolerable relations and an order which does justice to ethnic principles in this part of Europe, in collaboration with my ally, to entrust the further representation of German interests to that power which alone—once again—seems capable of protecting law and reason. Since this morning, the German Reich is fighting the usurpers of Belgrade and those units which Great Britain is again attempting to lead from the Balkans into battle against peace in Europe.


Hitler's address to the German Volk 6 April 1941

I will answer the rest below.

on that day Hitler bombard Belgrade and killed 10 000 Serbs...

in the early morning bombardment started..it was hudge and demostrative bombardment

http://www.svetskirat.net/slike/katastrofa/beograd_1941.jpg

nice bombardment of friendly Serbian nation...do you understand why Hitler bombard them?

http://www.svetskirat.net/slike/razbijanje/zazbijanje_jugoslavije_1941.jpg
and map of Balcan was this...why???? becouse Croats was only realibe allies of wermacht

Becouse Serbs was hate Hitler (and bombardment wasnt help at all) in that time Tito was ploting communist state in Serbia.

Serbs and Jews have old friendship.

In Serbia there were also Nazi collaborators. Although the Serbian-dominated Yugoslav government opposed German diplomatic moves to establish control and thus triggered the invasion, elements of the government actively collaborated; for example, under the leadership of the Serbian General Nedic, Nedic's Serbia was the first country in Europe to declare itself "free of Jews (http://www.demog.berkeley.edu/%7Egene/looking.glass_fn.html#fn1)"

The history of Serbia By John K. Cox p 92-93



1. True Aryans: Scandinavian, Slavs, Germans..that is hard description

2. Europeans: Spansh, Italians, Franks, Greek....

if you judgging on true Aryan: then Albanians arent white, but then wasnt Italians, Greeks, Spanish...

Franks are a Germanic people, the people in France today are hardly what I'd call "Franks"...and it's not quite as simple, Northern Italy has White people in it, as do regions in Spain, France and Greece...obviously I will not venture to say they are all white.

If you judgging on Europian: then Albanian is white, they was there long time ago.
Albanians are most poorest nation in Europe, but that will be changed soon, Italians investing great money in Albania (I wonder why?)

Because they have for a long time had an interest in Albanian's interests, in World War 2, they aided them with the procurement of Kosovo.

Albanians arent problem for white race, Turks, Marocans, Niggerians, Gypsies are problem... in Albania ther is no one Gypsie today.

Albanians are a problem. Perhaps when they gradually invade your nation and eventually steal a large portion of your historical lands, will you view it differently, they are no different to Turks, they have an insatiable appetite for European landmass.


Croats and Serbs will allways have problems..and that is ours Balcan problems, but when some retard atack ous we defend it is natural.

There will always be some problems between Europeans, but these problems are not worth the damage it causes both nations. Ultimately you have to ask yourself the question, which is more important? Settling a score with Serbia at the detriment of your own nation as well as theirs, and leave yourself vulnerable to outside elements, or working together to formulate a strong bastion that is at the heart of Europe, that which separates it from the hordes.

Personally, I prefer you all leave the petty shit and do the latter rather than the former. The Ottomans nearly ran Europe over before because we could not settle our stupid differences for the sake of the greater good. It took some phenomenal effort from Austria, Germany and Poland to turn the tide at the gates of Vienna, it took a phenomenal tole on Russia to turn the tide on it's front, when it could have been a relatively simple task had we all stopped the shit then and focused on the important matters.

The whole point of Racial unity is for us to put the nonsense behind us, be an example of the future of co-operation between our nations for the greater good of our race as a whole. That's just my opinion on the matter though.

In Balcan there isnt no one man who wasnt involved in some kind of war (worlds or local)..that is maybe becouse all Balcan nations have little Iliric genes and Illirs was crazy bastards.

Don't get me wrong I get more than most perhaps in some strange way what it is that bothers the two nations in fact the entire region, the Boer people have similar sentiments for the English for the most part, and it's depressing to be honest...had we heeded Verwoerds advice, we might not have been in this mess to start with, instead the natural reaction of the English was to side against the Boer in policy matters and vice versa on their part...there is nothing to gain from this sort of thing. Look at this country..it's a good example of the results.

No that is the real figure and Croats are proud of it, the faggots just don't want to admit it here because they know they have to be decent.

Going by the information below it does seem that more than 7,000 Serbs were killed:

Hermann Neubacher [Austrian National Socialist] calculates:

"A third must become Catholic, a third must leave the country, and a third must die!" This last point of their program was accomplished. When prominent Ustasha leaders claimed that they slaughtered a million Serbs, that is, in my opinion, a boastful exaggeration. On the basis of the reports submitted to me, I believe that the number of defenseless victims slaughtered to be three quarters of a million. (Neubacher, Dr. Hermann. Special Assignment in the Southeast, p. 18-30.)


Italian generals, who were more overwhelmed by the atrocious Ustase slaughter, also reported of similar figures to their commanders.[128] The Vatican's sources also speak of similar figures, that is, for an example, of 350,000 Serbs slaughtered by the end of 1942 (Eugen Tisserant[129]) and "over 500,000 people" at all (Godfried Danneels.[130])

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp#Total_Number

This seems to be confirmed by what Hitler says in his speech of "Serb clique of [communist] criminals". This clique must have been quite powerful if it managed to topple the pro-German government so easily:
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Communist party, Partisans and Tito started in Serbia....not in Croatia...

Croatia was fighting with Tito and Serbs to 1945.

Yes, 700,000 is the accepted figure. I'm sure the real figure is much smaller. But what about all those stories about the "serbcutter" and competitions to kill as many Serbs as possible in one night? One Croat apparently managed to kill 1300 Serbs, while another killed around 600.

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I say it was exstra small working camp....capacity was 800 prisoners and 200 guards.... that all is jewish BS.

I was in war..it is fucking hard to kill a man.... it isnt some stupid animal who looks in you...man is complication, he crys, he kicks, he bites, he fights for his life, sometimes he is so strong that 5 pepole must keep him. it isnt easy to kill ..and kill 5 pepole in day ???? that record even some psyhotic Serbs in Srebrenica canot do.

What can you tell me about all the jews in the Ustasa party? Psychologicalshock posted some disconcerting information.

In Germany wermacht was pepole who was half Jews or married with Jewish, and there was Jewish who was agents ....

On Hitler was 9 attempt of assasination, and who was worked on that..half-Jews.

That was situation in Croatian army, but they all was checked from Gestapo, if they then wasnt boder Gestapo why we border with theirs wifes and lovers now.

Going by the information below it does seem that more than 7,000 Serbs were killed:


do you know what is funniest part of that noumber??

it is made by some Serbians communist historians to justified mass sloghters of Croats (nazis) after 2WW.

In list of all pepole killed in Jasenovac there was all Croats who is killed by communist in Blaiburg field and many pepole who just died normaly from desise or olds.

List is fake!!!!

Noumber is fake!!!

Going by the information below it does seem that more than 7,000 Serbs were killed:

Croats are just Asiatic cowards

The Ustase themselves gave more exaggerated assuptions of the number of people they killed. Vjekoslav "Maks" Luburić, commander-in-chief of all the Croatian camps, announced the great "efficiency" of the Jasenovac camp at a ceremony as early as October 9, 1942. During the banquet which followed, he reported with pride, intoxicated: "We have slaughtered here at Jasenovac more people than the Ottoman Empire was able to do during its occupation of Europe.".[131] Other Ustase sources give more canon estimations: a circular of the Ustase general headquarters that reads: "the concentration and labor camp in Jasenovac can receive an unlimited number of internees"[132]. In the same spirit, Miroslav Filipovic-Majstorovic, once captured by Yugoslav forces, addmitted, that during his three months of administration, 20,000 to 30,000 people died.[133] Since it became clear that his confession was an attempt to somewhat minimize the rate of crimes committed in Jasenovac, having, for an example, claimed to have personally killed 100 people, extremlly understated[134], Miroslav's figures are evaluted so that in some sources they appear as 30,000-40,000.[135][136]

Among themselves they boast, once captured they minimize. Scum.

Croatian Aryanization of the Jew:
"
Persons who prior to April 10, 1941 have shown themselves to be deserving before the Croatian people, especially toward its liberation, as well as their marital partners with whom they concluded marriage prior to the enactment of this decree and the descendants of such a marriage, in the event these persons may be affected by this decree, may receive recognition of all rights belonging to persons of Aryan descent at the discretion of the head of state, regardless of the provisions of this decree.
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Even more interesting was the fact that the S.S. Intelligence service had discovered that nearly all members of the ruling clique in Croatia, from the head of government to the leader of the Ustashe, were married to Jewish women. The fifteen hundred survivors among the Jews in this area - five per cent, according to a Yugoslav government report - were clearly all members of this highly assimilated, and extraordinarily rich, Jewish group."

Croats weren't and never will be NS, they're merely Catholic Chauvinist scum.

Even more interesting was the fact that the S.S. Intelligence service had discovered that nearly all members of the ruling clique in Croatia, from the head of government to the leader of the Ustashe, were married to Jewish women. The fifteen hundred survivors among the Jews in this area - five per cent, according to a Yugoslav government report - were clearly all members of this highly assimilated, and extraordinarily rich, Jewish group.

Can I get a link? I'd like to read some more about this.


No that is the real figure and Croats are proud of it, the faggots just don't want to admit it here because they know they have to be decent.

I judge people on this forum on an individual basis. As long as these particular Croats do not boast on VNNF about killing innocent Serbs, I will refrain from accusing them of boasting about it amongst themselves.

Thus far I've seen them taking pride in killing jews, gypsies and communists. I've nothing against that.


Edit: Any idea what happened to the 700,000 corpses? If historians claim that the bodies were cremated then that automatically raises a red flag.

Bassanio, do you hate Serbs? I don't care what you say, just curious. Because you seem to require all sorts of proof and evidence to stop liking Croats, but with Serbians it's exactly the other way around it seems (they have to prove that they're even a tiny bit worthy of praise or liking in any way).

Are you like those Hurwats, do you even consider yourself Slavic? Hurwats hate Slavs, just do a few forum searches.

Bassanio, do you hate Serbs? I don't care what you say, just curious. Because you seem to require all sorts of proof and evidence to stop liking Croats, but with Serbians it's exactly the other way around it seems (they have to prove that they're even a tiny bit worthy of praise or liking in any way).


I don't hate Serbs. I don't hate any white people. I'm just sceptical when it comes to what "officially" happened during WWII and I'm trying my best to be impartial. But because the Croats sided with Hitler and NS Germany while Serbia was rife with communist agitators, I won't lie that that has me leaning more in Croatia's favour. If my language and stance make it seem to you like I hate Serbs, then you should understand why I might think that you hate Croats.

The Ustase are obviously demonized by historians because they collaborated with the National Socialists, and we all know how history tends to inflate numbers, especially when NS or allies of NS are the perps. With that said, I cannot turn a blind eye to the quotes and estimates provided by NS and Ustasa officials during WWII. Innocent Serbs were killed. There seems to be no doubt about it. The only question is how many. I'm also troubled by the information psyshock has provided about all the jews and jewesses in "NS Croatia" and would like to read more about this.

I'll repeat that I side with neither the Croats nor the Serbs in their fratricidal war. In his last few posts in this thread and another, Karl very eloquently and reasonably stated everything I could have to state regarding this matter.

Fallacious statement, Serbia was the first of these regions to declare itself entirely Juden Frei, whereas Germany had difficulties performing the requisite duties for the establishment of a New European Order, in regions that were Croatian and Italian...specifically because these two "Aryanised" such a large segment of their jewish population it deemed to be "White enough".



As am I, I do not glorify the death of Croatians during the Yugoslav wars, I just don't find it like'able that they do that regarding the death of Serbians. Frankly I do not care what who experienced during that conflict, it doesn't excuse the fact that they are demonstrating a verile hatred and contempt for a fellow White nation who suffered equally at the hands of their partisans and officers. This is not only denying historical fact, but also justifying further actions to be taken against a people who are undoubtably of European origin, for them to call a Serb a "Turkomongrel" and an Albanian a "White" is and should be insulting to anyone remotely serious about Racial unity.

This based in part on utter hatred for them, and in part on misconceptions about Hitlers views regarding Serbians...whom he did not hold at all responsible for the actions that ensued after the coup d'etat against the Regent of Serbia.

When cordially pointing out this to them, in as non aggressive a manner as humanly possible they instead choose the option of insulting not only me, but the Boer people in general regarding matters they know absolutely nothing about...where is this behavior indicative of WN'sm or National Socialism? To insult another Whites heritage, his nation and his people simply because he finds the manner in which they behave abhorrent.

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I dont have much time and my connection is poor { I lost an entire long post with good info/links} so Ill just quickly comment on this part again which is important to note.

Karl is right, the jewish problem had been solved in Serbia unlike in Croatia where the Honorary Aryans policy was in full swing. Of course this is not at all surprising considering that the very founder of the anti Serb chauvinist Ustasha movement and its ideological/spiritual grand father Josip Frank {the successor to Starcevic in The Hrvatska Stranka Prava} was an Austro-Hungarian Jew who harboured an extreme pathological hatred for Serbs and Orthodox Christianity. Another prominent Jew in Croatia's ustasha 'right' is Mladen Shvartz who is one of the most vile pieces of excrement one could imagine. We can also see the philo semitic policies of croat war criminal Ante Djapic who has even visited Israel and stated that his party stands with the jewish people.
It needs to be pointed out again that unlike Russia or Germany there was hardly any real ideological anti-Semitism in Croatian history and nationalism.
Now just to give our foreign friends a little example of presently prevailing attitudes among croat 'white nationalists' on Stormfront. {I only point to SF because it is the largest WN site on the net in terms of sheer size and members no matter what one may think of it}.
ON SF you will hardly find any mention of jews in the Croatia sub section of the forum and most of their posters dont even entertain the possibility that there just might be a ZOG, they simply dismiss all the evidence, while at the same time mocking the individual who brings it up, all the while continuing with their pathetic immature insults and Serb bashing {discussion of Serbs is basically 90% of all the posts on their sub section}
Now compare this with the discussions on SF serbia where there is an amazing amount of rich documented material dealing with the Jewish question throughout history and its implications for the future of our race, in depth discussions and an overall much more interesting and thought provoking atmosphere.There is hardly any chauvinism, members attempt to inform/educate and if someone comes along spouting stupidities they are eliminated very quickly by the Serbs themselves {we are extremely hard on our own}. In short the serbian posters on SF Serbia are actual real life NS activists while our croat friends just log on to kill time and 'discuss' evil Serbs.

As for Jasenovac which has also been mentioned in the thread, most croats brag among themselves and even inflate the numbers of Serb civilians they killed, some even claiming that they finished off a million. Of course in front of foreigners they completely deny everything and claim that its all Chetnik propaganda. Although the true number of Jasenovac deaths will never be known I would say from all my study into it and taking into account various including foreign sources that the number killed is somewhere in the vicinity of between 400,000 and 500,000 That would be realistic and not an attempt on my behalf to inflate the numbers for political/propaganda purposes.

For the Pole Bassanio, since you are so interested in our local matters this may give you just a little insight into the Croat mind set and historical animosity towards Serbs.

Avars? Huns? Croats?
by Slobodan Jarčević

While attempting to explain the roots of their nation, Croatian intellectuals have aroused curiosity among all those who cannot solve the enigma of the rise of Croatian state which was based on the bloodshed of nearby Serbs from whom the Croats have even borrowed their language. Not a small number of researchers have attempted to explain the Croatian hostility and hounding of Serbs by pointing to their non-Slavic origins. Even the Croatian historians - regardless of whether they are fond of the Gothic theory of Croatian origin or the Iranian theory - gladly claim that the Croats are not a people whose roots are Slavic. So is the Croatian behavior toward Serbs only a question of political motives, or is there some kind of sub-conscious necessity quite frequent in the phenomenon known as “narcissism of small proportions”?

It really is not difficult to see that the evil aimed at Serbs has its origin in the bosoms of Croatian nation even though we cannot discount the role of great European powers (in this frenzy) which is best expressed in the thoughts of one Benjamin Kalay: “Croatian expansion in this hour cannot be dangerous for Austria-Hungary so long as it is of damage to Serbs. This expansion is useful for us - not only are we going to disunite South Slavs but we will also have a free hand in further destabilization of Balkans.”

If we are to suggest that the proto-cause of these hostilities could be a national redefinition then those who are in search of the oldest national and racial characteristic of Croatian people are correct. Even many well known Croats have attempted to prove that their people had some other origin, and not a Slavonic one. They fanatically supported theories of non-Slavic origins at times, and these theories were often at the forefront of their partisan or governmental policies.

During 19th century, as well as during the existence of Independent State of Croatia (1941-1945), Croats claimed that their origins were Gothic (people who are accepted to be Germanic). Of course, there are also suggestions of Iranian origin, such as those of Dominik Mandić, different theories on slavinization of Croats during their migration across Asia, Eastern Europe and Balkans; of an ancient Croatian state in present day Germany, Czech Republic, Poland…etc.

It is interesting how Croats often deny that they belong to the Slavic group of people even when they are not attempting to prove their theories of Gothic or Iranian origins. Whether this denial is a political goal or perhaps slavery to some subconscious need is difficult to determine. The importance of this orientation is that it is enthroned in (consciously or not) and that it has found its place in the encyclopedic entries of Croatian nation. According to them, Balkans was “settled by Croats and Slavs”. Serbs are stringently left out. If there is a mention of Slavs, they are quickly replaced by Croats. This “truth” about two different peoples (Croatian and Slavic) has been flowing out of the encyclopedias of Croatian educational and cultural books. And so Slavko Goldstein, in his work “Croatian early medieval period”, stated:

“Much of the data that would enable us to describe and explain in greater detail the processes which took place after the Croats and Slavs settled these parts is missing. But if we possessed it, it would be of high importance for us to ask and later discover how the newly arrived Slavs and Croats behaved.”

Intentional or Unintentional Denial of Slavdom

Modern Croatian historian Dragutin Pavličić not only excludes Serbs but also Slavs from these parts, and bestows these vast lands to Croats alone:

“The Croats have settled, among other lands, the southern parts between the Cetina and Neretva Rivers, which they named ‘Pagania’, and these parts were populated by Neretvljans. From Neretva River to Dubrovnik there was a region called Zahumlje: from Dubrovnik to Kotor including Konavli there was Travuniya, further to the south Duklja and in the background Bosnia. The populace of all these regions would soon, just as other Croats did, convert to Christianity and turn towards the West.”

Even the father of Croatian state, Ante Starčević, stubbornly proclaimed the Croatian separation not just from Serbs but from Slavs as well:

“Who cannot see that the words Slav and Serb are the same in meaning, for both of those words can replace the word ‘foreign’… The Croatian people view that Slavo-serbian blood as foreign: the Croatian people will not stand by as these foreign people defile the holy land of Croats.”

The extent to which Croatian academics deny kinship of Croatian people with Serbs can be seen in the title of a historic work by Dr. Dominik Mandić (released in Zagreb, 1990 by the Croatian Motherland): “Croats and Serbs – two different ancient nations”.

The Croatian “half-saint”, Cardinal Dr. Alojzije Stepinac shares Mandić’s beliefs. In his “Dnevnik IV”, he stated that Serbs and Croats are not related:

“…and once again, the fact that Serbs and Croats are two different worlds has seen the light of day, two different peoples who will never unite as long as one of them lives.”

All these attitudes are engraved in texts of Ante Pavelić (leader of the Croatian state during WWII):

“There never existed some general Slavic consciousness in the wide segments of Croatian people which we could compare to the national consciousness of Croats. These segments do not feel that they are a part of Slavdom, and have separated Slavdom according to their feelings as something that is foreign and dangerous. The foreign and dangerous Slavic (and South Slavic) movement that emerged during 19th century was led by Prague, Moscow and Belgrade. This irrefutable fact can provide us with further proof that Croats are not of Slavic but of Gothic origins – a claim that has already been discussed seriously.”

Croats Not Mentioned in the Old Documents

Maybe the above mentioned Croatian stance - which states that Croats of medieval period were not Slavs - should be looked into. If we are to carefully examine the old documents which first mention the Serbs and Croats, they will easily reveal that the mentioned conclusions of Croatian academics about non-Slavic origins of Croats could be true.

We begin with the analysis of one of medieval documents that mention Serbs. That document is “The Frankish Chronicles”, or “Einhard’s Memorials” from the beginning of 9th century. In this document there is a mention of territories which stretch from the Adriatic coastline to Drava River (just south of present-day Hungary), but no where can one find people who bear the Croatian name. There is not anything about a Croatian state either. The lands that are mentioned are Dalmatia and Slavonia; when it comes to their inhabitants, Serbs, Gudušćans, Timočans, other Slavic tribes as well as Avars are mentioned. Dalmatia, the document states, is exclusively populated by Serbs.

Let us now examine the words of Professor Relja Novaković about this priceless historical testimony:

“Descriptions of events just before the beginning of Ludevits uprising, Einhard states how envoys arrived to Heristal in 818, at that time the residence of Frankish King Ludwig, among whom was Borna – a person who was without a doubt determined by historians as the Prince of Coastal Croatia, even though they did not ask themselves whether it was even possible for a Prince of Coastal Croatia to find himself at Heristal back then. The question that is asked is why did the wise Einhard, who described the events of his time with so much detail, name Borna as the Prince of Guduskans and not a Prince of Croats? He mentions the envoys of Abordits, Guduskans, Timočans and Ludevit the Slavonian, but there is not a mention of Croats in that, in my opinion, strangely important place.”

Professor Relja Novaković reasonably states that Prince Borna could not have had any ties to Croatia, especially not to the one which leaned on the Adriatic Sea:

“If Borna’s land was a part of Croatia, it would not be possible for Einhard not to call him a Croatian prince, because that Croatia (which would stretch to Cetina and Livno in the south) would be a great and powerful land at that time, and Ludwig of Heristal would make sure that there was a Croatian prince among many others… ”

According to Professor Novaković, among the envoys who were with the Frankish king in Heristal during 818, there is not a mention of Serb representatives either, but Einhard states that Ludevit at one time escaped from Serbs and wrested away a part of their territory in Dalmatia (at that time Dalmatia stretched from Adriatic coast to Sava River – a present-day boundary between Croatia and Bosnia). The mentioned Borna, from 818 to 821, managed to move up from being a “voiovod of Guduskans”, to “voivod of Dalmatia”, and finally to “voivod of Dalmatia and Liburnia”. However, once again there is no mention of Croatian lands and Croats, and so Professor Relja Novaković brings forth theses only about lands which could have been ruled by Borna and the possible stance of Serbs towards those lands:

”I would say that the answer could contain only two suggestions. One is that the Einhard’s Serbs were located in the same region which was ruled by Borna, but only as a less important, smaller group. The second, a more realistic one, is that the Serbs as an ethnic group lived not far from Borna’s land, out of the sphere of Frankish influence most likely under the Byzantine administration or perhaps maybe as an independent people and so they were not invited to send representatives to the Frankish court.”

Franjo Rački’s Forgeries

Svetislav M. Prvanović comes up with more specific conclusions when it comes to Borna, stating that Franjo Rački falsified “Einhard’s Memorials” and with that created confusion in history:

“The oldest mention of Borna can be found in the writing of Einhard, the most famous chronicler at the Frankish court. He notes that two Slavic delegations came before the Emperor in 818 complaining about Bulgarians. Einhard continues by saying that they were delegations of ‘Braničevans and Borna, the prince of Gudušćans and Timočans who not so long ago dissolved their alliance with Bulgarians and as a result were forced to flee into our lands.’” Prvanović continues:

“Einhard’s information, in the way it is cited, is very clear. One delegation represented Braničevans while the other came in the name of Borna – the prince of both Guduščans and Timočans who not long ago migrated into regions under Frankish rule due to the conflict with Bulgarians. Rački went on to conclude that Guduščans were in fact Gačans – a small tribe north of Lika (Dalmatia) who could not have had neither close relations nor a common prince due to geographic distance. He edited the Latin text, changing its meaning by placing a comma after the word ‘Guduščans’. Rački separated Borna and Guduščans not only from Timočans who were their neighbors, but from the deeper Latin context as well which resulted in dissection of its integrity. The new meaning was that three delegations went before the Emperor instead of two: first of them being the Abordit delegation, the so-called Bodrićans or Braničevans who lived east of the Velika Morava delta (Serbia); second – the delegation of Borna, the prince of Gudušćans, or the Croatian Gačans, and third – the delegation of Timočans who fled from Bulgarians and settled the Frankish lands.”

The Confused Croatian Academics

To prove that Guduščans did not live on territory of present-day Croatia but that they were from eastern Serbia, Svetislav Prvanović calls on 19th century ethnographers Pavle Šafarik and Vladimir Karić who find them around Timok (north-eastern Serbia) and Danube River.

Had Croatian academics only committed a mistake about Guduščans being from north Lika and not from north-eastern Serbia, one could say that they were deceived by the conclusion of Franjo Rački and so we could not find fault with them – that is, if the Prvanović’s claim that Rački forged the “Frankish Chronicles” is true. We have seen that not even the cautious professor Relja Novaković had found any mention of Croats and Croatian state in this Frankish document, and he himself questions whether the comma behind the word ‘Guduščans’ should be there or not. Even though he does not take sides when it comes to this issue, Novaković mentions the work of Svetislav Prvanović on prince Borna. Hence the latter Croatian academics will not only take the stance of Franjo Rački, but will create an even greater confusion when it comes to the “Frankish Chronicles”.

They tried hard to present Borna as a Croatian ruler, and his land as a Croatian land which leans on the Adriatic coast. Due to that, Borna’s state is called ‘Coastal Dalmatia’ or ‘Coastal Croatia’. Even if we were to forget about their usage of Croatian national and territorial symbols (because they have no source which would tell them that the above mentioned lands used those symbols), we cannot be silent about the fact that they are placing Borna’s state on the Adriatic coast. Borna was a vassal of the Frankish Empire, no doubt about it, but this empire could not have had any possessions (not even vassal possessions) around the Adriatic Sea because according to the Peace Treaty of Aachen (812), the border of influence between the Frankish Empire and Eastern Roman Empire was drawn from Istria to the peaks of Velebit Mt., alongside Serbian lands, Livno, Imotski and finally to Pelješac.

Therefore, the Frankish possessions under the control of vassal Borna could have been located only north of this line, and so there is no possibility for them to stretch all the way to the Adriatic Sea. This simple logic (or the contents of a historical document) when it comes to the lack of mention of Croats, not on the coast, nor in Slavonia, did not prevent Croatian academics from stating the next about “Ludevit the Slavonian” in “The Encyclopedia of Yugoslavia” – Yugoslavian Lexicographer Institute of Zagreb, book 3, 1962, page 577:

“Ludevit the Slavonian, the prince of Slavonian Croatia (817-823). At the time when the sources first started to mention him, the whole of Croatia was under the Frankish sovereignty.”

There is no mention about the sovereignty (or the sphere of interests) of Eastern Roman Empire, but Slavonia is called ‘Slavonian Croatia’, although we know that Slavonia, which was under the rule of Austrian crown up until 19th century was a separate kingdom from Kingdoms of Dalmatia and Croatia.

Stupidities in Encyclopedia

Croatian encyclopedists are not concerned with historical documents. Those documents do not even mention Croatia and Croats, as in the case of the “Frankish Chronicles”, but they are persistent in croatianization of those documents and so this encyclopedic entry states:

“Even though the Frankish reports undoubtly exaggerate the scale of Ludevit’s uprising, it was still a movement of wider proportions in which there were, alongside Croats between Gvozd and Drava River, lower-slavic Slovenians and Timočans – a Slavic tribe which seceded from Bulgarians and joined Ludevit.”

A real confusion is created by the writer of this entry as well since his Dalmatia, where Borna rules, is at times a Frankish possession and at other times a Byzantine possession:

“In his struggle against Franks, Ludevit’s entry into the lands of prince Borna cost him 3,000 men and more than 300 horses (according to the Frankish report) in the beginning alone. He was in even more difficult position when the Dalmatian Croats did not join him. The causes for Borna’s protection of Frankish interests can be found in the political environment of the Adriatic coastline after the Peace of Aachen (812): from then on the Dalmatian Croats had to rely on Franks since Dalmatia was a Byzantine theme, and as a foreign body, it closed off access to the Adriatic for Croats.”

It is clear that Borna was a Frankish vassal, but if Dalmatia was a Byzantine theme, Borna could not have ruled it. This means that the first sentence of this encyclopedic entry (cited above in ‘The Confusion of Croatian Academics’) cannot be true because it states that the “whole of Croatia was under the Frankish sovereignty”.

And the response of Croatian encyclopedists to the fact that “Frankish Chronicles” mention Serbs in Dalmatia can be seen by their explanation of a sentence about Ludevit’s escape from Sisak “to Serbs, a tribe (they say) which rules a big part of Dalmatia”. Encyclopedists think of it as of some Serbian oasis:

“It is probably referring to the present-day Srb which was the center of a separate tribal region.”

We can see that this ‘explanation’ does not precisely say whether this could be one of many tribal regions, but it suggests that there is a region where Serbs rule on the “Croatian land”. The fact that this Croatian encyclopedist admitted this minimum to the Serbs – that there was (only one) Serbian-ruled region in Dalmatia during 9th century – invalidates other encyclopedic entries, and volumes of books, newspapers and schoolbooks in Croatia, that deny the existence of Serbs on “Croatian land” before the Turkish conquest of Balkans in 15th century. It must be that the writer of this entry was clear (at least subconsciously) with the fact that the Serbian-administered region in Dalmatia destroyed important pillars of Croatian historiography since his encyclopedic entry about Ludevit the Slavonian ended rather quickly. Because Ludevit’s escape “to Serbs in Dalmatia” resulted in him killing Prince Vladislav, Ludevit himself was killed by Vladislav’s uncle Ljudemisal… Ljudemisal in turn succeeded Borna. If Ljudemisal was a Serb, his nephew Vladislav was most likely a Serb as well, or at least, he was the son of a Serbian woman – Ljudemisal’s sister.

Where Have the Avars of Croatia Vanished?

The Frankish ruler Charlemagne invaded Panonia (present-day northern Serbia and surrounding areas) in 791 and that is when he established the Avar currency. Later on, when the populace of Panonia was converted to Christianity (805 A.D.), Slavs forced the Avar kagan Sabarian to convert to Christianity and change his name to a Christian one – Theodor. The presence of Avars in Panonia at that time offers a possibility to remove doubts when it comes to the fact that the “Frankish Chronicles” do not mention either Croats or Croatian lands at the Assembly of Heristal in 818.

The answer to this ‘omission’ can perhaps be found in the further reading of “Frankish Chronicles” – the part which describes the Assembly of Frankfurt, held 4 years later in 822. Einhard states that the following peoples were represented in the Assembly: Abordits, Sorabs, Vilacs, Bohemians, Moravians, Predenecentians and Avars. It can be seen that Einhard records Serbs (‘Sorabs’) earlier as the populace of Dalmatia, and once again, fails to mention Croats. However, he does mention Avars among other representatives who attended the Assembly.

Even though professor Novakovic does not explain why Croats are not mentioned in those two Assemblies held by the Frankish Emperor, it is possible that the reason could be that the invitation to attend was given to Avars. This document contains information about the time during which its creator (Einhard) lived, which is why it is much more trustworthy than say the texts of Emperor Profigenitus who described the events that unfolded 200 or 300 hundred years before he was born. One can now ask the question, how is it that Einhard does not mention Croats in the 9th century, while Emperor Profigenitus does so in the 10th century?

We can assume that Croats as a nation were still forming during 9th century and that the non-Slavic tribes were a significant numerical addition to them. Among them were Avars as well, often mentioned by Einhard. It is possible that Avars were invited to the Assembly of Frankfurt (822) as representatives of that mixture of peoples, who will later adopt a common name – Croats. Historians state that the first mention of Croats was in 852, and that there is no mention of Avars in the lands of medieval south-slavic states ever since then. It is not difficult to suggest that the name “Croat” could have replaced Avar, Hunnic, as well as other non-Slavic and Slavic names.

How Avars found themselves in the Lands of South Slavs

Our schoolbooks contain many texts about Avar-Slavic alliance in a war against Eastern Roman Empire. According to those texts, Avars and Slavs crossed Sava and Danube Rivers, plundering the Roman provinces in Balkans, taking over larger cities including Thessaloniki and Constantinople. However, the French historian Francis Cont has found Greek documents which give no mention of Avar-Slav alliance in a war against Byzantines. Those documents state that the military alliance was negotiated between Byzantine Empire and Avars against Slavs in Thrace (6th century A.D.). This document was written by a Greek historian Menander:

“In the fourth year of Emperor Tiberius’ rule (581), around 100,000 Slavs devastated Thrace and many other provinces… Tiberius did not have enough manpower to oppose the Slavs and Avars. He sent a delegation to the Avar prince Bayan who at that time had no hostility against Byzantines. Under those circumstances, Tiberius pushed him into conflict with Slavs. Sixty thousand armoured Avar horsemen crossed Illyria, Schythia (at that time a region between lower Danube and Black Sea), and finally Danube River – with boats built in such a way that transport was possible in both directions. As soon as Avars landed on the other side of Danube, they started burning down Slavic villages, destroying them to their foundations and setting the fields on fire: every living soul fled into the thick forests.”

Francis Cont finds that Slavs were in south-eastern Europe even before 6th century:

“During the first centuries of new era, Romans reported sightings of Slavs on the eastern borders of the Empire; from Northern to Black Sea, from Germania to Thrace, alongside the whole flow of Danube River.”

In “The History of Goths”, historian Jordanes (7th century) writes:

“Sklavines can be found everywhere from the city of Noviyetun (south of present-day Ljubljana) to the lake of Mursyanskiy…”

Francis Cont will mention a document of Constantinople’s Patriarch Nikolay III (1084-1111) as well. This document states that Slavs ruled the entire Peloponnesus ever since Emperor Tiberius signed the military alliance with Avars against Slavs. Patriarch writes to the Emperor Alexis I Komnin: “A Roman foot has not ventured into Peloponnesus for two-hundred and eighteen years….” Francis Cont also sites the preserved Greek “Monemvasic Chronicles”, a document which once again states that Slavs ruled Peloponnesus for 218 years, from 587 to 805 C.E., and have dominated some of its parts up until 950.

Professor Novaković’s Information

The presence of Slavs (Serbs) in south-eastern Europe and present-day Romania is even older. Professor Relja Novaković has provided some input when it comes to that. He cites the Greek historians who discuss warfare between two rulers of Roman Empire –Constantine the Great and Licinius (325 C.E.). It was written in those documents that Licinius was a Serb and that he received military aid from Serbs of Carpathian Mountains.

Prof. Novaković presents us with the Christianization of Serbs in Balkans when he says that Bishop Nicetus spread Christianity “among wild Serbs” in Remeziana (present-day Bela Palanka) at the end of 4th century and in the beginning of 5th century.

The Slavic presence on Balkan Peninsula is mentioned even in the 5th century B.C.E. in a document written by the father of history, Herodotus. He stated that the Illyrians are Slavs and it is truly baffling that nobody is giving any weight to this claim. If we know that Veneti (Venedi, Vends, Vindi) are Slavs and that Germans even to this day call Poles, Czechs, Ukranians, Moravians, Slovakians and Lusatian Serbs by that name, then there is no reason for us not to believe Herodotus. This is what he wrote while speaking about Armenian traditions:

“…And these were their traditions. I believe that this next practice is the most intelligent one; the same practice, I hear, exists within the Illyrian tribe Veneti as well…”

There is much information about the Slavs in Balkans and central Europe, and upon examination of Herodotus’ texts, one could say that Illyrians were Slavs. With that in mind we can conclude that Slavs are the original people of Balkan Peninsula. Present-day Serbs know that they are Slavs, and so no one has the right to accuse them of having settled ‘foreign territory’.

Croats settled Serbian land

Avars, Huns, Ugars, Bulgars and Croats have arrived from some place to settle the Slavic lands. Croats have not yet decided whether they will see their nation within the Slavic group of people or outside of it. Their historians and other well-known personalities prefer to distance themselves from Slavdom. Among those whom we have cited and innumerable others for whom it is impossible to be cited in this article, it is our duty to mention a few more whose opinions could lead us to the conclusion that the first core of Croatian nation was not Slavic, but possibly Avar.

A well-known Croatian historian Niko Županić wrote in his “The First Croats” the following:

“I believe that the first Croats were not Slavs but a foreign people from Asian Sarmatia, who in the Great Migration of Peoples found themselves in Transcarpathian Slavic homeland, and having absorbed a certain number of people from other tribes they started calling themselves Croats.”

Nada Klaić, a historian, finds that Avars made up a rather big part of the first Croatian populations:

“Croats found Avars in possession of that province (Dalmatia). After they engaged in wars against one another for some time, Croats triumphed and slaughtered some of Avars while forcing others to assimilate. From then on, that province was ruled by Croats. One can find descendants of Avars in Croatia even to this day.” (Note: She is of course ignoring Einhard and other historians who mention Serbs as the rulers of Dalmatia.)

To add to this Avar-Croat connection, it can be said that many Croats were named “Bayan”; the name of Avar kagan who formed an alliance with the Byzantine Emperor Tiberius (581) in order to wage war against Slavs in Thrace.

Right before WWII, Dr. Mladen Lorković (minister of foreign affairs in the so-called “Independent State of Croatia”) denied the Slavic origins of Croats in the book “The Nation and State of Croats” (“Narod i zemlja Hrvata” in Serbian/Croatian):

“The whole Croatian history can be understood only if one makes an assumption that the ruling Croats were a non-Slavic segment who incased and organized the Slavic masses.”

“Hrvatski list”, a Croatian newspaper, was also concerned with Croatian history, and so the April 14th, 1939 number discussed the origins of the name “Croat”:

“Having arrived to Europe, Hu-ur-vathi together with Huns ruled an old Slavonic population(s) with whom they merged into one, and imposed their name on them even though they were a minority.” (Note: Croat is written “Hrvat” in Serbian/Croatian which is why I am not altering the name this newspaper used - “Hu-ur-vath”.)

The Imposition of Croatian Identity

Having in mind that we are witnessing the imposition of everything ‘Croatian’ on Serbs and other nationalities in Balkans and central Europe during the last two centuries, then it cannot be unreasonable for us to state that such behavior could have begun in the 9th century. After all, that is when every trace of Avars suddenly disappears in the historical documents, and there is an appearance of people who call themselves Croats. That is exactly what the Croatian newspaper “Hrvatski List” claims in 1939.

The appearance of such will to assimilate, which was followed by intolerance against other nations and which was dictated by big European powers and Vatican, was noticed by a Slavic historian – a Catholic priest Matija Katančić (1750-1825):

“You will finally be convinced that the Croatian identity has been propagated in Dalmatia, Bosnia and Serbia, but the Illyrian people of these mentioned parts never call themselves by this name.” This is what he said about Serbian language:

“Bosnian-Dalmatian/Serbian language is characterized by clarity and elegance.”

He will also claim that Dalmatians, Bosnians and Slavonians are of the same ethnic structure as Serbs are and that these people are profoundly different ethnically from Croats. Furthermore, Katančić will state that the imposition of Croatian identity in those regions was done through Austro-Hungarian pressure even though the populace did not see itself as belonging to Croatian nation.

Another Catholic priest, Franje Jukić, will note that the Catholics of Bosnia & Herzegovina during 19th century do not know what the word ‘Croat’ means, let alone that they see themselves as Croats. However, the gradual change brought on by the big powers and Vatican will (eventually) create out of Serbian Catholics in Bosnia the most fanatical Croats in 20th century.

Historian Jeremija Mitrović will dedicate himself to this phenomena and he will precisely describe what Croatdom is:

“Vatican has in general proclaimed the converted Croats and some receptive Serbs as a part of one nation – a Croatian nation. Thus it managed to create one strong Catholic-Croat system in the western parts of Balkans which in turn was time and time again stubbornly aimed against Serbs.”

A resident of Dubrovnik, Lujo Vojinović, wrote a piece in publication “Vreme” on January 30th, 1938 protesting croatianization of Rudjer Bošković, Ivan Gundulić and all of Dubrovnik and its Serbian past:

“Let us openly say that we are tired of this misuse of the name Croat and Croatian; this misuse does not come out of people’s will, but out of certain elements who with incredibly clever propaganda (a powerful hypnosis) are using the infinite harmlessness of the Croat masses in order to turn them away from necessities of life, injecting their veins with poisonous frenzy, madness.”

This Croatian frenzy or madness (let’s not even mention the genocide during WWII and the expulsions of Serbs from their lands from 1991-1995 in greater detail…) has led them to believe Austrians (1915) who promised that Croats would receive administrative powers over all conquered Serbian lands, and so Croats began dissecting Serbian history. Among other things, they have printed two books about Miloš Obilić and Marko Kraljević claiming them to be “Croatian national heroes”. (Note: It is well known to all that Miloš Obilić was a Serb, while Marko Kraljević was the son of a Serbian nobleman whose lands were in present-day south-western Macedonia, nowhere near Croatia and Croats.)

For example, one of them is titled: “The Heroic Narratives of National Hero Miloš Obilić – for Croatian youth”, printed in Križevci (1915) in the bookstore of Gustav Noyberg

Again and again....
A row of lie, then a row of true, again a row of lie, then a row of halftrue...ect ect
when someone who don't now nothing about theme read this kind of tekst..he get complitly wrong finaly ,,picture.
Old, tried prescription of serbian propaganda machinery, with one aim :
-convice auditorium in picture where serb will be on place wutch one they not deserve
We not have any problem about that but we come sik because they do that on way to degrade us.

1. About language...
any normal man know egsactly that croatian and serbian language is't same(it's close,but not same)
Lott of words have diferent root, gramary diferent, sentence series is different, ect...
lott of word have same root, but rules and spirit(way of expresion mind) is apsolutly diferent.
And serbs know that egsactly how we know, but tzhey tray play on card ignorance of other nation and play on card because when someone who don't know this two language-when he listen...he hear almost same,,melody,, :)
People who is educated for languages, specialy who was specialisant on ,,slavic language,-they confirm verry clearly without any dobt and with arguments-Serbian language is one language..Croatian language is another lnguage...both have for themself diferent rules,gramary and even history line.(This conclusion was adopted in Poland on ,,congres of slavic lnaguage,,in early 90')
Interesting is that this conclusion was adopted almost unanimously.Guess who was against:):)(there was recognised linguists(experts with background and,,name,,) from Belorusia,Ukraine,Russia,Poland,Czehia,slovakia,Slovenia...)
Interesting staff is in witch time start this ,,union language,,politics.That start with serbian linguist Vuk Karadjic who tray to put all so called,,south slavic,,languages in one pot with one aim-to expand importance of Serbia and with finaly target-to asimilate all
,,south slavic nation in one ..serbian, what is just imposible and history show us that verry clearly.
He, and others tray to play on card,,brotherhods,,(normaly with serbian dominate:)) and on card that on this aria so called sout slavic,, come like slavs. But they always forget that all ,,south slavs,, come and take nation name from land on witch they come, exept Croats who come with themselfs nation name and they give themselfs nation name to land where come.So today we have two expresion for Croatia-croatia and Hrvatska. Croatia (Kroatien,Croazia...ect) come from latin-Roman imaperia and Hrvatska(Horwatia,Hrvashka ect)come from slavic languages.
Question is: whay serbs trying so long and inzisting on the idea of a nation and serve the half-truths and lies to make sure Europe, centers of power, in this stupid idea?Answer you can get from question
1.a.With witch halflie and lie they tray to come to basicly target?
-one is with language
.two is with falsificate of history(They always talk about ,,theory,, of Iranian(Persian)origin of Croats. How they tray to improve lie about ,,theory,.simply.In start they use word ,,theory,,.We all know what theory mean and what mean fact. They constantly tray to ignore ,,Talajske ploce,,-arheologic staff from witch you egsactly can know that all theory of slavic origin of Croats fall down. From this T.Ploce in same time fall down theory that croats is't formated nation-people when they come on our today Homeland. With simply logic fall down all stories about Croats is basicly serbs but they was splitt from serbian heritage when they take catolicism.
We also know(historian prove that and that is fact-long time before croats come in today Homeland, egsist Croatian state witch one was established in teritory of today Ukraine(today you can find people in Ukraine who expres themselfs like beli hrvati(white croats)..This historical fact was confirmed from
independent sources(independet,..my english hehehe-separated sources from bysant and from arheologic sources)
But serbs just ignore that facts and call this facts ,,theory,,(stupid tings is that exeassfull do that and lott of people talk about this fact...like theory??????????) and in same time really theory about Croats like Slavs origin is named like true????????????????????????????????????????????????????
After all today science and geneticly method all this ,,so called fact,, about croats origin slavs-just fall down without any dobt!!!But today you still find people (educated one also)who talk about croats like slavs?????)

Oooh..I realy can wrote about this serbian conspiracy...hours and hours...days and days...But I am really sik of this people and I just not have energy to stay come.
And we(Croats)are facing with this stories no one year..or two.We suffering this fake from generation to generation...

And someone ask us:whay you dont like sers?hahahahahathey all time tray to stealing land with asimilation,with kiling,they use any kind ..even ,,colonisation,,
Tray to image how you will feeleng when some other nation come in your country and tray establishd new country on your teritory and after finaly put tighether with basic them state???
We say..Who take weapon-they die from weapon...Egsactly that's happend to Serbia with Kososvo

Serbs and Croats should somehow mend fences, at least to the point where they could work on a common goal without it suffering from their mutual dislikes.

None of the Balkan states is an empire anymore, none of us can have the luxury to say "fuck off, I'm strong enough on my own".

Western whites don't really like us and don't really *care* what happens to us, they can be myopic that way.

The only *implicit* support that *matters* could only come from Russia (in it's present state), now that Germany is no more than an occupied territory.

In the short term, the common enemy are the Albanians and the Turks.

Once the USA goes bankrupt, anything will be for grabs, by us, but also by the Turks and Albanians. It would be very important that we aren't on each-others' throats and get it right, for once.

Nothing much is needed for things to finally go our way, but one simple thing, at present: restraint.

From your post here you can see results of propaganda:):)
You talk about,,west,, from ,,east point of view,,
And you just forget that Croats newer in history(just in time of yugoslavia)belong to east:)(first yugoslavia and last one..how long egsist?80 years?what is 80 years in collectiv memory of one nation who remeber 1400 years on this aria????absolutly nothing)
and we alway(even in yugoslavia) know that we are of ,,west,, how you express you self:)
We not share same values...in history meaning(what is balkan..what is balkan wars...I not need to explainted you about term,,balkan,, you know egsactly what balkan is because stara planina is in bulgaria is't?And you know egsactly who fight in balkan wars and whay-you know egsactly that Croats fight against turks,but not in balkan wars nad not from same position from witch bulgarians or greks was:)We fight against turks toghether with Hungarians(mostly)and with Slovenians and Austians..And you know that werry well
You know egsactly that Croatsnot belong to ,,east,, in religion way and newer belong in this circle..same like Slovenians or Hungarians or Austrians.And you know egsactly what is balkan meaning before yugoslavia and what meaning after yugoslavia and from witch circle come this idea that croatia and slovenia is part of balkan.(just one method more from serbians to integrated all ,,south slavs,, in one nation)
Just look arhitecture in croatia and Slovenia...and tray to compare with ,,other balkan state,,..
When I say we are ,,west,, and we newer belong to ,,east,, I not tray to insult you.I just say facts.
You know egsactly what term west roman imperia mean and what east roman imperia mean(Bisant)..So even we look so far you see that croats newer not belong in bisant

And now you will see really qucly reactions from ,,serbian side,,:)
Again traying to prove himself theory about Croatssouthslavs ect ect...little bet true and tones of lie..then with some half true(they know egsactly how people who don't know nothing about this part of planet-not have energy and time to reserch this posts...they play on card that people know something superficially about history in this aria where was contact mediteran,central and southeast erope and all influence of this terms:):)and they will use some fact witch one strike in the eyes...(and subconscious will accept rest hahahahaha-I say that before..old serbs tactics)and then put in this true tons of lie,halftrue,mith and ,,conviction,,:)
And with this mix they tray to make new history and science:)
Croats read this book manny time and I really not have energy to fight with them.Finally we do what we do.We run from them, and I hope we will have enaugh clever politicians who will build wall in any way us and them.
We know we are not to strong to say fuck off from our lčand and we lost today Bsnia and herzegovina...But also we know we are strong enaugh to say to anyone-fuck off from republic croatia in today meaning.

What propaganda, dude?

Let me re-phrase my point(s) in more understandable terms, pertaining to both your nations, in my view:

1. If, at a given point, you can't effectively wipe your neighbors out, there is no point fighting them. Serbs and Croats are not after each-others' land, so there is no real cause for fighting. All that there is - mutual distaste, and that's not too hard to live with. Look at us and the Greeks - good neighbors, all things considered.
2. If you and your neighbors are enough alike and you two could get along pretty well, it is stupid to fight.
3. If you think it's hard to live with Serbs/Croats, try living next to Turks.
4. Yugoslavia is not my fault.
5. Time will come to ask favors, it'll be damn impossible to get them after a certain point in (in)fighting has been reached.

You don't appreciate just how good you have it having civilized peoples for neighbors. It is the same thing I'd say to Finns complaining about the Russians.

Whether Croatia is a part of the Eastern or Western civilization, is no concern of mine - it is your business. How Westerners (and by that, I mean mainly Anglo-Saxons) see you, is up to them though.

You choose your friends.

hahaha...OK
I not understand god your expresion ,,west,, ok
In ,,west,, I mean hmmmm central europe:)We have mutch mutch more common with Hungarians,Slovenians,Austrians of what we have with Serbians,Bulgarians,Greeks...We have mutch mutch more biger common history,culture ect with this nation of ehat we have witjh Serbians,Bulgarians ect..
Yes you are right..with west(anglosaxons meaning) we not have common:)
I newer say yugoslavia is your fault:) I not escape from croatian responsibility for yugoslavia. That was our first big big mistake when we not have enaugh common inside our nation and refuse first yougoslavia(first yugoslavia was in legaly meaning apsolutly unlegal state...I any other cases-croatian-hungary kingdom, austo-hungarian monarhy..we have SABOR who give permisssin to go in this unions..but for first yugoslavia SABOR newer confirm this state)second yugoslavia come just with some kind of inertion.
About turk:)we know egsactly who and what they are...we(nation..not me today hahaha)know egsactly what turks is...we know that on same way how Hungarians know:)
about your comparasion betwe grek and bulgarians...Yes we know what good neighbours is:)we not have any problems with Italians or Hungarians:):)They not want steal our land..and all is nice..About all we can make deal if someone not want take our land :)that is verry simple and clear:)they are civilased people and wer are civilisated people with them.
Look slovenia..they want our part of sea...but they not come with weapons...they not tray to colonisated our teritory...ok..we have some ,,fight,, but that is just on ligua level...and suner or laiter will come time to make deal(on international court whatewer)...What is diference?Just because we have deal with slovenians not wit savages:)

From what I've been reading here, the croats wouldn't hesitate to ally themselves with non-whites for the destruction of the other Balkan whites, just because of the orthodox religion. I say that's a typically non-white attitude, which deserves to be put back in it's place. Now I've seen that they actually gang up with shqiptar and muslim scum. They like to take it up the ass from turks. Muslims only keep them around because they support their cause, but once they see their objectives fulfilled, they'll spare no bullets for killing croats, who just might convert to islam to save their asses. The bosnian scum already did that, so a similar future is not unlikely for croats.

Bassanio, Ustaša wasn't NS. They only allied themselves with NS out of opportunism, they were basically Croat-styled falangists (a la Franco of Spain). They also barely passed the Aryan classification, whereas the Kaszobians passed that easily (despite that they are/were, but from a complimentary point of view, the Germans generally had no really huge reason to like them). And as PS posted earlier, the Ustaša leadership was infested with kikes everywhere. Of South-Eastern Europe the Serbian Četniks were probably most loyal of all to the Axis and NS. And guess what? Croats hate Četniks; they turned it into a pejorative for ‘Serbian.’ Also, what do you think of someone like Ratko Mladić? He's (or was, depending on whether he's still alive) a blue-eyed Serbian racialist and he wasn't merely focusing on religion either. He along with Radovan Karadžić described the Bosnians as “Turks” (even though many of them are simply Croat Muslims with some Muslim heritage, but they wrote them off as Turks nonetheless; you could say they were rather lenient towards Croats in that regard).

Serbian's piece, I've read it before, is a must-read! And, Chad Wentworth: Well, what can I say? Other than: Spot on! There's a thread here which totally demonstrates what you just predicted (http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=92162).

From what I've been reading here, the croats wouldn't hesitate to ally themselves with non-whites for the destruction of the other Balkan whites, just because of the orthodox religion. I say that's a typically non-white attitude, which deserves to be put back in it's place. Now I've seen that they actually gang up with shqiptar and muslim scum. They like to take it up the ass from turks. Muslims only keep them around because they support their cause, but once they see their objectives fulfilled, they'll spare no bullets for killing croats, who just might convert to islam to save their asses. The bosnian scum already did that, so a similar future is not unlikely for croats.

hahahahahaha...How I say before...onerow true,then tons of lie,insuence ect:)tipical balkan acting
Tell me,Who say that what you tray to implicate to Croats(or me)????
We want do distroy Balkan whites??? Tell me-what Croatia atack Serbia?????????????????????????????You know that any croatian soldier was die in Serbia or in any other balkan state?? on countrary my frend..totaly oposit:)
What will be next? That Serbia newer not atack Croatia!!! Croatia atack Serbia?is't? hahahaha
unbeliweble mentalite..apsolutly unbeliweble:)And you people ask:whay croats not want have contacts with you?hahahaha
ISUSE KRISTE!!!!!!!! Did you ewer read what you post here????????
No...No more! I will not react no more on this stupid kind of post in witch authors tray to upsidedown from history to today fact.
And if I react on way that I say to you-ortodoxbastard bla bla...you will say after: hello,good morning.Did you all see how this catolic croats is savages? hahahahahahahaha I am sorry, but this kind of behawiour we just not like but we understand that is ,,your ortodosrbian way,, of communication:) Here in Croatia when someone act and bahawiur on this way..we just say:gipssies balkans buissnes:)
No hard feelengs..ok? have a nice day.

In the short term, the common enemy are the Albanians and the Turks.

Once the USA goes bankrupt, anything will be for grabs, by us, but also by the Turks and Albanians. It would be very important that we aren't on each-others' throats and get it right, for once.

Nothing much is needed for things to finally go our way, but one simple thing, at present: restraint.

Listen boy...the real enemy are serbs-turks-russians

Serbs were thoso who atacked: Albanians, Croats, Slovenians, Bosnaks. Hungarians, Germans and Bulgarians......read history dude dont speak from your ass when you have not idea about balcan history..

Balkan whites have been at war with each-other through history, as have all Europeans.

The biggest mistake the various White states have made through history is, siding up with the alien (like you) against their own.

Albanians breed fast without the resources necessary for sustaining them. That means they are preparing for expansion. That, in turn, spells problems for me and mine. Just to be clear - Serbs are "mine". Croats - less so, but still "mine". And talking shit about the Russians is about the easiest way get your ass kicked in my country.

You ruining the Serbs means we would have to deal with you on our border, sooner rather than later. That's not good.

That's why Serbia and Croatia repairing their relations after the last jew war they were tricked into is so important.

And let's face it, an entire people that accepts islam for the expediency of not being stampeded by the Turks isn't exactly a shining example of moral strength. My ancestors have died by the million for my privilege to not be called fucking Mustafa. Yours have made you a Mustafa. We have zero in common.

my english is't so good and I am not shure if I understand clearly what you want say.
Did you say that my ancestor is Mustafa? Or that I am Mustafa?.......
Or you want to say someting complitly diferent?
If you say that my yncestors was mustaga or me...well you suprised me because this kind words I espect from sebs but not from bulgarian nationalist or Macedonian nacionalist(I strongly make difference betwen Macedonians and Bulgarians ortodox from One side and for example - serbian ortodox from another side.In my opinion, You(bulgarian ortodox) and Macedonian ortodox...you are lait years far of for example savages serbian noncristian ortodox church.
Whay I make differences?because how mutch I know..Macedonians church and Bulgarians church not tiching themselfs members that is right to kill another cristianscolateral product of takening strange land...how for example tiching serbian ortodox church.
If you say what I understanding that you say with my poor english...that my ancesories was mustafa...well then I will start talk probably on same way how I talk with other russians and serbian asiatoortox rabish....First I will just start to ignore..and I will tray to run from you..after if you will continue with insultin I will back with insulting you...
Same procedure what I past true with some members here who insult my religion and my people or my country or me.
When I talk about ortodox in bad way, I not talk to Bulgarian ortodox or Macedonian ortodox...Whay I make differences? Because that is't same church how catolicks church is. In catolicism we not make diferences betwen nation...all catolicism nation have one, on earth,leader..Pope in Vatican.
Ortodox churches is on nation base, and every ortodox church have leader for them self-defence from witch nation come.
When I say fuck orotodox..I really not mean on all ortodox nation or all liders.Firstiwall I talk about serbian ortodox and secondly all who suport this agresive and noGod rules religion(for example some rusians)
I hope that I am enaugh clear.

my english is't so good and I am not shure if I understand clearly what you want say.
Did you say that my ancestor is Mustafa? Or that I am Mustafa?.......
Or you want to say someting complitly diferent?
If you say that my yncestors was mustaga or me...well you suprised me because this kind words I espect from sebs but not from bulgarian nationalist or Macedonian nacionalist(I strongly make difference betwen Macedonians and Bulgarians ortodox from One side and for example - serbian ortodox from another side.In my opinion, You(bulgarian ortodox) and Macedonian ortodox...you are lait years far of for example savages serbian noncristian ortodox church.
Whay I make differences?because how mutch I know..Macedonians church and Bulgarians church not tiching themselfs members that is right to kill another cristianscolateral product of takening strange land...how for example tiching serbian ortodox church.
If you say what I understanding that you say with my poor english...that my ancesories was mustafa...well then I will start talk probably on same way how I talk with other russians and serbian asiatoortox rabish....First I will just start to ignore..and I will tray to run from you..after if you will continue with insultin I will back with insulting you...
Same procedure what I past true with some members here who insult my religion and my people or my country or me.
When I talk about ortodox in bad way, I not talk to Bulgarian ortodox or Macedonian ortodox...Whay I make differences? Because that is't same church how catolicks church is. In catolicism we not make diferences betwen nation...all catolicism nation have one, on earth,leader..Pope in Vatican.
Ortodox churches is on nation base, and every ortodox church have leader for them self-defence from witch nation come.
When I say fuck orotodox..I really not mean on all ortodox nation or all liders.Firstiwall I talk about serbian ortodox and secondly all who suport this agresive and noGod rules religion(for example some rusians)
I hope that I am enaugh clear.

Umm ... I did say what I wanted to. Now run along coast burglar and look at all the architecture Italians built in YOUR land.

Umm ... I did say what I wanted to. Now run along coast burglar and look at all the architecture Italians built in YOUR land.

:) I say what I say to Bolg not to you...
And I not say that you not have permission to say what you want to say:)
Italians built in MY land..lott of tings build italians in MY land...Some part of highway for example..And how mutch I know we pay for all what we make agrement before buisnis:)..Or you mean some renesanse buildig?What you mean that all building in world in renesanse tipe build by Italians worker and architects?hahaha Do you ever heard for maister radovan?..not renesanse but...Or renessanse arhitect Vranjanin?(pictures on thema ,,ideal city,, holded in museum in Baltimore,Berlin,Urbin...Did you know how many arhitects-Croats build in YOUR land?
Or you mean earlier?Roman impeire?Arena in Pula? or doiclecian palace? Or Segestica?...On your logic half of europe belong to todays Italians?Tell me witch grass you smoke?I want tray also:)
Tell me where I can ask for return MY wods from mounting Velebit?Oh I see. you will probably will say in that time mounting Velebit belong to Italians?hahahaha..One contra question: If that belong to Italians..whay Italians in that time MUST pay for pasing nearly to MY coast?Mletac republic and Venice ships also? For example near Senj?Tell me who have bigest navy in early 900 years after Christ? Tell me witch nation have FIRST permission of Pope..of Vatican..in all Europe to have in catholic church pray in national language?(before that just 3 language was recignised like holly languages.Hebrey,latin and old greek) Tell me witch nation in all Europe sign FIRST antiwar contract?..Before you want to say something first read, and read...
I not say that Italians is nothing(because I read and read).Italians is great nation with long long history, with exelece sientists, great arhitects,ingeneir,inventors....Croats know that werry well because lott of Croats on this time go in Italians schools,university ect..Same how half Europe go there also..
But that not give you right to talk on this ton about MY land, or about hungaria,or switzerland,Austria ect
If you like to talk about that I am here:)

@ the Irish guy who likes Croats

Italian Nationalists support the Irish struggle for independence much more than any Croat organization. Forza Nuova has several pro-Irish leaflets.

:) I say what I say to Bolg not to you...
And I not say that you not have permission to say what you want to say:)
Italians built in MY land..lott of tings build italians in MY land...Some part of highway for example..And how mutch I know we pay for all what we make agrement before buisnis:)..Or you mean some renesanse buildig?What you mean that all building in world in renesanse tipe build by Italians worker and architects?hahaha Do you ever heard for maister radovan?..not renesanse but...Or renessanse arhitect Vranjanin?(pictures on thema ,,ideal city,, holded in museum in Baltimore,Berlin,Urbin...Did you know how many arhitects-Croats build in YOUR land?
Or you mean earlier?Roman impeire?Arena in Pula? or doiclecian palace? Or Segestica?...On your logic half of europe belong to todays Italians?Tell me witch grass you smoke?I want tray also:)
Tell me where I can ask for return MY wods from mounting Velebit?Oh I see. you will probably will say in that time mounting Velebit belong to Italians?hahahaha..One contra question: If that belong to Italians..whay Italians in that time MUST pay for pasing nearly to MY coast?Mletac republic and Venice ships also? For example near Senj?Tell me who have bigest navy in early 900 years after Christ? Tell me witch nation have FIRST permission of Pope..of Vatican..in all Europe to have in catholic church pray in national language?(before that just 3 language was recignised like holly languages.Hebrey,latin and old greek) Tell me witch nation in all Europe sign FIRST antiwar contract?..Before you want to say something first read, and read...
I not say that Italians is nothing(because I read and read).Italians is great nation with long long history, with exelece sientists, great arhitects,ingeneir,inventors....Croats know that werry well because lott of Croats on this time go in Italians schools,university ect..Same how half Europe go there also..
But that not give you right to talk on this ton about MY land, or about hungaria,or switzerland,Austria ect
If you like to talk about that I am here:)

Shhh ... Be quiet.

Shhh ... Be quiet.

hahahahahahahaha..Tell me..When you order that to me-did you have helmet on your head?with lott of feather..white,green and red?hahahahaha
SI COLONELO :)))
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@ the Irish guy who likes Croats

Italian Nationalists support the Irish struggle for independence much more than any Croat organization. Forza Nuova has several pro-Irish leaflets.

:) Yeah thanks. I actually have a few fascist contacts in Roma and Firenze who are very pro-Irish. Cheers.

:) Yeah thanks. I actually have a few fascist contacts in Roma and Firenze who are very pro-Irish. Cheers.

I am for Ireland as well but you know what I think about Croats.

I am for Ireland as well but you know what I think about Croats.
No, I don't. Why- what's wrong with Croats??




























FOR THE LOVE OF JAYSUS I'M JUST KIDDING! No more posts on that--please!!:D

No, I don't. Why- what's wrong with Croats??




























FOR THE LOVE OF JAYSUS I'M JUST KIDDING! No more posts on that--please!!:D

I know, I have a sense of humor. I think I have said all I wanted to on the subject.

my english is't so good and I am not shure if I understand clearly what you want say.
Did you say that my ancestor is Mustafa? Or that I am Mustafa?.......


No, it was directed at the Albanian dude right above my previous post.

No, it was directed at the Albanian dude right above my previous post.

Don't mind him Bolg, he's a bit slow.

evo vratio sam se s 5 dnevnog tuluma....idem opet ovi vikend negdje OBAVEZNO....stvarno mi je nedostajalo vožnja i piva.

napravio sam oko 1400 kilometara šta i nije tako loše za zagrijavanje, a obašao sam sve osim Istre i Slavonije ha ha ha..


Šta kažeš na to?

evo vratio sam se s 5 dnevnog tuluma....idem opet ovi vikend negdje OBAVEZNO....stvarno mi je nedostajalo vožnja i piva.

napravio sam oko 1400 kilometara šta i nije tako loše za zagrijavanje, a obašao sam sve osim Istre i Slavonije ha ha ha..


Šta kažeš na to?

Sto se nisi javio??? Pa mogli smo se naci u zgb

Sto se nisi javio??? Pa mogli smo se naci u zgb

trebao sam se nać s još hrpom ljudi ali bila je jebena kiša, pa sam ostao u prijatelja...no drugi put ima dana, doć ću ja još koji put gore

Come on Euvipro, sports are are great activity for forging and re enforcing traditional friendships among nations :D





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