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wintermute
September 7th, 2004, 05:43 AM
The West as a whole needs to recognize the general Muslim threat, instead of fobbing it off on future generations like a bad debt.

As Russia is integral to any future "the West" might have, I am beginning to have my doubts about the utility of this metaphor in describing the lands and peoples to whom our Cause is addressed.

Greco-Roman Civilization and its vast European holdings (even the name Europe is classical, we should recall) ended as a dominant influence sometime in the seventh century.

Medieval civilization, in which I include the Dark Ages (yes, Virginia, there really was a Dark Ages) and the Holy Roman Empire, blossomed in the last two centuries before the Renaissance. Its dominance ended somewhere during the Reformation, I should say - though opinions would vary.

The "West" or "Western Civilization" is a late period name for a somewhat amorphous concept. In some sense it refers to (oddly enough) Northern Europe, in some formulations includes Modern Civilization (1500s forward) and Medieval Civilization, and then again, sometimes is broadened to include all three major White civilizations in the last three thousand years.

Since the West - as it has always been used - has pointedly excluded Russia and is now, in corrupt modern scholarship (and over at gnxp.com) being used to include the Middle East, and always, always, always, by Christians is expanded to include the Jews, I think it is our job to theorize a new name for what we wish to preserve - or create.

Since Spengler, everyone has known that the West, like Rome, is only ever falling. Why tie ourselves to this plummeting stone? What new word, phrase, or concept neatly contains what is most precious about ourselves, which we can use to move forward? I begin to feel that "the West", a comparatively recent ideological construction, is not a critical posession with which we must burden ourselves on the way to wherever we are going.

With that, I open the floor to my co-racialists (кαλόν кάγα0όν) who are dreaming of a new world. Say the right name, and we are that much closer to home . . .

Wintermute

Franco
September 7th, 2004, 05:58 AM
I'll think about that. The name will have to include all Whites and exclude all non-Whites...maybe something with the word 'Aryan' in it somewhere...


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wintermute
September 7th, 2004, 07:13 AM
Oh great -- another morbid history scholar self-graduated from Neo-Folk University and headed for Moscow. Just what the-race-with-Aryan-in-it-somewhere needs! I feel half-saved already.

I didn't send in anything, since the mail isn't being updated, but I enjoyed your letter on Appolonius very much.

I would suggest that your anger this thread is misplaced: you are not in a position to be killing jews now, or in the near term future. Since I am fairly certain that you're not a provocateur, your political - I can't even call it naivete - your political ass-backwardness is surprising.

You are right to criticize the direction of our interest to Pelagianism, an interesting and harmless heresy, dead for centuries.

Your opposition to marketing, however, is ridiculous.

The "we'll do it by guns only" crowd is pushing up daisies . . . all across Eurasia.

Celine noticed this, that the Germans would lose, because during the French Occupation they did nothing to win hearts and minds - they did not understand the importance of what they were undertaking. Hitler might have, but the memo must have gotten lost somewhere in the General Staff.

Now, I think the late German Nationalists are admirable men, perhaps the most admirable men in history. I prefer to honor their sacrifice by winning, not by indulging every little roid-rage that passes my way.

I do this by trying to analyze the best way we might do what they did not: take enough of the culture - as Jews, Feminists, and Communists have done - to where that last little lagniappe you mention isn't even deemed by news reporters to be worthy of mention.

But if you must have it your way, I'm sure Matt Hale would be happy for a cellmate. Successful mass movement or futile, self defeating pack of lone wolves . . . you be the judge.

By the way, what's your beef with reasoned thought? Nigger blood? Or something worse? I mean, are there not enough 14/88 bit chompers on the board for your taste? Is there some danger that I'm going to cause them to trade in their suspenders and DMs for a nice suit and a textbook on marketing?

If so, maybe you should reexamine the utility of the contributors here that so infuriate you. That, or check your class anxieties at the door.

WM

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 7th, 2004, 09:28 AM
well there's plenty to do and little time to do it and even fewer resources and personnel skilled at the things that need to be done.

I'd give my eye teeth for a few more William Pierces-- genuine intellects with the discipline not only to excel at academia but leave that all behind and bend their intellect and self discipline to more mundane tasks like he did.

Scholastic rumblings and ruminations serve a good purpose in the meantime whether they are speculative or critical like Otis' -- recognizing in his criticisms a circumlocutory style usually found in lawyers and only exceeded by professional philosophers-- because they drag in people with smarts and education.

It's hard to beat smarts and education and another go-round at Spenlger and Yockey will do that then I'm all for it.

No the problem here is what constructive to offer the intellects when they show up for second; how to take the talent and use it to move the ball forward instead of repeating the same circles.

Maybe we are developing that, or maybe we arent. But if we are, there are somethings you dont play out all in public on a message board. Moreover, some plans you share with nobody. All of that operates on different levels.

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 7th, 2004, 09:55 AM
You have in that post violated at least ten times the rules of the civil forum. Hmm, you are quite the disruptor. I might reply as I did before but unlike you I follow the rules. Are you above us Otis? Rules dont apply to you?

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 7th, 2004, 09:59 AM
God, look at this insufferable faggot sweeping up after me! I suppose every post from me will now be followed by master-meta-commentary from the meistro, the God of Fuckall, Antiochus.
I'd give my teeth for a few more Antiochus', because an even more slavish-sounding White Nationalism might just be tragic enough to move me to jump off the Brooklyn Bridge.
Scholastic rumblins' and ruminations are as good as hotcakes in the meantime, especially when served with the Outis Butter ©, recognizing in the texture of his butter the smooth style usually found in the discharge from my wife's cunt and only exceeded by my mom's -- because they drag in more people I can patronize.
It's hard to beat stupid christers and stupider neofolkies and since all we're both good for is another ring-around-the-Yockey, hey, that's fine by me.

No the problem here is what constructive to offer the intellects when they show up for second; how to take the talent and use it to move the ball forward instead of repeating the same circles. ass off preaching to cowards and fools like me, but goddamn, what do I care? I don't like the so'm'bitch and he insulted mah wahf.
Maybe OUTIS is developing that, maybe OUTIS isn't, because I know that my voice is too damn weak to effect anything, though I keep yapping and yapping and yapping about little bullshit that I in domestic discomfort advocate cuz damn, some shit y'all just don't play in front of me, cuz I was in jail once and it cowed me, so everyone else should be cowed too, making me feel right and proper, here on this public message board. Moreover, some plans, when you share them with nobodies like me and wintermutt, are rebuffed out of hand because we're stupid, lazy cowards who are more interested in books than action. This is me patronizing you! Hiss, hiss, patronize patronize!

I cant tell if that is six violations or more, would depend on how you count it. there's a couple of phrases that contain compound violations so that is clever. Oh, so clever. golf clap for PHD Otis.

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 7th, 2004, 10:05 AM
so you called me a coward, a homosexual, and you made obscene sexual references to my wife and mother. Now youre starting in on my mother? Well that is interesting. I notice that not even the self proclaimed Jews at this board, when they were here, we so gross and insulting. You are a piece of work. You are pushing the envelope of speech at somebody else's potential expense and encouraging unlawful acts and you talk like a Jew. Are you a Jew? I'm not saying you are, how would I know. Just asking. Jew Otis? If so take your own advice and bless the world with your departure.

Photon Torpedo
September 7th, 2004, 10:40 AM
But if you must have it your way, I'm sure Matt Hale would be happy for a cellmate.

I'm not sure if Hale's new groid cellmate would go for that.

Franco
September 7th, 2004, 11:49 AM
You have in that post violated at least ten times the rules of the civil forum. Hmm, you are quite the disruptor. I might reply as I did before but unlike you I follow the rules. Are you above us Otis? Rules dont apply to you?


Well, that is true. This is Civil Forum.

Please post according to Civil Forum rules.



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COTW
September 7th, 2004, 12:00 PM
MrOutis,
What kind of blow would you suppose could harm jewry at this time?

COTW
September 7th, 2004, 01:08 PM
MrOutis,
Divide and conquer by taking advantage of an already divided red army, right?
So, if some of the red forces or cells, are hidden amongst other toys how would you follow through with your tactic if all of the red’s whereabouts are unknown?

COTW
September 7th, 2004, 02:05 PM
That's the icing on this cake:.... may even be quite possible.
It’s possible if the whereabouts of the red armies remain true, the blue army can divide into enough groups themselves to offer a good offensive and if the offensive can be coordinated in synch.

Let’s say it all comes together.

How do you keep the defensive green army from annihilating the blue once the blue has completed its mission and from re-supplying the red army from another toybox?

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 7th, 2004, 03:43 PM
.........., they scatter the moment a single strike against them is made. They're hypochondriacs. .........: the blue soldiers will be ready for annihilation, even desire it, or they are nothing more than cowards who, in fact, would not come into play.

There's one shot at this before the opening goes under.

so the "red soldiers" will just melt away when a few of them get slapped like mosquitoes? LOL I had thought you meant Jews but I guess not since as we know, to our misfortune, Jews have survived massive expulsions and bloodlettings time and time again. So it will take quite a bit more than a few sporadic outbursts to oust the Jew.

As to your second comment, gee, you must be a coward too since you continue to peck at the keyboard rather than riding out to Valhalla. LOL

again, you criticizing the "scholars" here is the pot calling the kettle black.

No, Ben Smith outbursts just make nifty stories for the bad guys' fundraisers. They dont help us, they help them.

COTW
September 7th, 2004, 03:55 PM
Your last question pushes the metaphor a bit too far: the red army will not replenish itself because it will be in fear, its stock is severely limited and, as we have seen in past mock-battles, they scatter the moment a single strike against them is made. They're hypochondriacs. They'll faint with horror over the rising anti-redism and run away, or dig themselves in even deeper. As for defense of the blue soldiers from the green, they'll do the best they can, but ultimately they each have to be more than ready precisely for annihilation, because if they're not, they're not soldiers and wouldn't risk a thing, or would turn state's. Remaing 'blue' and not John Doe isn't impossible, either: remember that. We don't want to be as hypochondriac as them and end up keeping our hands in our pockets in fear that someone a mile away may come up to slap them. But the point is essential: the blue soldiers will be ready for annihilation, even desire it, or they are nothing more than cowards who, in fact, would not come into play.

There's one shot at this before the opening goes under.And you say that I’m pushing the metaphor? “Faint with horror over the rising Anti-redism�, lol.

How many blue soldiers would you suppose would be needed?

brutus
September 7th, 2004, 05:20 PM
I give credit for the depth of thought on this thread. Someone's got their thinking-cap on.

I personally believe that.......The jew will be destroyed by the same sword he wields against us.

We must only be able to understand how to use the sword........and then use it.

brutus
September 8th, 2004, 01:57 AM
RE: MrOutis

You're in Naples?

Yes.......Naples, Florida.



"The jew will be destroyed by the same sword he wields against us."

I said this because;

From truly understanding the jew’s early mastery of usury as a weapon of domination, right up to comprehending today’s ultra-sophisticated mind manipulating media, we have our work cut-out for us.

The first need is to bring as many sleeping Whites up to “our speed.�

Then we plug them into the various endeavors to work for the White cause. A reversal if you will. We will become the parasite and draw sustenance from the jew. The jew will give our troops, paychecks, while they plot his destruction.

They started as clandestine................we start as clandestine...............they worked within the system.......................we work within the system. They have no need for formalized gatherings or rallies, nor should we. No national boundaries or limitations of national identity. They are jew, we are White and that is the sole identifier.

The internet to be used to de-anesthetize the sleeping Whites.

And our greatest advantage is:..........There are more of us.

John in Woodbridge
September 8th, 2004, 05:38 AM
RE: MrOutis



Yes.......Naples, Florida.


I like the west coast of Florida better than the east coast. Where I grew up, Pinellas County, was and still is segregated. I imagine Naples is even more isolated from the dark masses.

COTW
September 8th, 2004, 05:48 AM
........The internet to be used to de-anesthetize the sleeping Whites.
And our greatest advantage is:..........There are more of us.
How many Whites, do you think, need to awaken before they can effectively change anything? What kind of changes could be made by that time that would turn the tides?

brutus
September 8th, 2004, 10:14 PM
RE: Cracker oftheWhip

How many Whites, do you think, need to awaken before they can effectively change anything? What kind of changes could be made by that time that would turn the tides?

We must ask ourselves..............how many jews did it take to subvert White America?

Most have a sense of when the tipping-point came, or at least those of us who are old enough to have experienced the change, do. We see the difference as day and night. To those born into the world of zog, you must rely upon the White elders to help you discern the truth from the lie. There must be no doubt.

Did the jews have a time table when they set-out to take-over America? I believe that they did not. The jew works his evil though the generations...............he works for his posterity. Nations come and go, but the jew supercedes the nation, by destroying the host country. Time and history have always provided the jew with host countries to exploit, and the future is ripe with opportunities for the jew.

In America, we are now well into the third generation of the ashkenazi jew from Eastern Europe. It may well take us as long to take it back. Brothers, I know this is not what you want to hear.

Over the decades, the jew has seen many Whites who have become racially awakened. And the jew is ready for them. We follow a predictable pattern: Disbelief......realization.........anger/rage.........over time, apathy and hopelessness.

The jew has society geared to “handle� each one of these predictable emotional responses as White people catch-on to their game.

We must not continue to be like the domesticated livestock, who are herded through channel fences to their slaughter and death.

We must learn to use the same weapons that the jew has used on us.............and then use them against the jew................it is the only way out.

Steve B
September 8th, 2004, 10:43 PM
Scholastic rumblins' and ruminations are as good as hotcakes in the meantime, especially when served with the Outis Butter ©, recognizing in the texture of his butter the smooth style usually found in the discharge from my wife's cunt and only exceeded by my mom's -- because they drag in more people I can patronize.
action.

Geeze Outis! I said you should get out more often back on the Apollonian essay thread, but maybe I was wrong.

I'm thinkin maybe you ought to stay indoors!

Steve B
September 9th, 2004, 12:29 AM
Let's face it, No Man is f------ weird. I've had conversations with AE about Mr. Outis' "eccentric" behavior as far as we've experienced it around here, but this was not a joke on Outis' part, this guy has completely lost his already tenuous grasp on reality.

If being non compos mentis was a criteria for banishment...

I thought about this long and hard before posting this. I'm not one for the judaic smear tactic, which falls back on ad hominem attack in lieu of a response to legitimate or unanswerable arguments or facts, but there is no real contribution coming from this guy.

Reminds me of a guy I knew years ago. Real high IQ type but was walking the edge between sanity and insanity if you know what I mean.

Charles was his name, he was a neighbor. He used to work at Vandenberg Air force base in research and development before they fired him for being a nutjob.

Charles was building a time machine in his garage when I met him. Nooo seriously, Charles was building a time machine! He had all kinds of electronic equipment in his gargage that I had no idea what it was. Plans, graphs, charts, he even had this metal pod thing with glass tubing coming out from it. Heh, right outta star wars!

Most of the neighbors were kind of afraid of Charles and since i'm to stupid to be afraid, Charles and me became friends of sorts. He'd talk to me about all of his theorys of time travel and how it could be done and halfway had me convinced.

Now this next part I'm not to proud of cuz I think I'm the guy who drove Charles over the edge, as they say. You know me Dop, I like to needle people and thats what I started doing with Charles.

I'd ask him questions like: "Hey Charles, if you go back in time how do you expect to get back to the present since yer time machine stays here? His face would get beet red and a big vein in his neck would start pulsating. I thought he would blow a gasket.

"Hey Charles, why don't you go forward in time to the future where they obviously have time travel perfected, then you can time travel back to the present". Beet red, pulsating vein!

"Hey Charles, what if you went back in time, killed your grandfather, thereby preventing your father and you from being born, would your time machine then disappear from your garage?" Beet red, pulsating vein!

"Hey Charles, what if the future guys don't want us present guys messing around with time travel and they send someone back here to terminate the problem"? Beet red, pulsating vein!

Charles never did finish his time machine. The cops arrested him one night for jogging, which is not illegal in of itself, unless you are naked. I heard they took him to the mental hospital and I never saw him again after that. An unmarked moving van showed up about a week later and moved all Charles stuff, including the time machine, out. For all I know the time machine is at area 51 now.

Now why am I telling you this, Dop? Because brainy high IQ types like Charles and Mr. Outis walk a fine line. We push Mr. Outis to far and were liable to have Hannibal Lecter on our hands, eating fava beans, human brains and drinking Ciante

Cheers!

COTW
September 9th, 2004, 02:09 PM
You morons are quicker to yelp "insanity!" than Jews.Well, the evil genius is the common perception because most every movie, cartoon, book and TV show that deals with a man of science portrays those with high IQ as psychotic.

COTW
September 12th, 2004, 12:07 AM
RE: Cracker oftheWhip
... The jew works his evil though the generations...In America, we are now well into the third generation of the ashkenazi jew from Eastern Europe. It may well take us as long to take it back. Brothers,......We must learn to use the same weapons that the jew has used on us...it is the only way out.Their weapons took generations to work. I fear that another lost generation of white youth will be the point of no return.

Photon Torpedo
September 12th, 2004, 12:27 AM
http://home.earthlink.net/~tomasik/rod/images/time1.jpg

Franco
September 12th, 2004, 12:38 AM
Well, the evil genius is the common perception because most every movie, cartoon, book and TV show that deals with a man of science portrays those with high IQ as psychotic.


I must admit that your new avatar is.....unique.



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