When I heard about his lung disease I gave him a month. That was several months ago but looks like it finally caught up with him.

Michael Jackson rushed to hospital [Updated] (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/pop-star-michael-jackson-was-rushed-to-a-hospital-this-afternoon-by-los-angeles-fire-department-paramedics--capt-steve-ruda.html)

Pop star Michael Jackson was rushed to a hospital this afternoon by Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics.
Capt. Steve Ruda said paramedics responded to a call at Jackson's home around 12:26 p.m. He was not breathing when they arrived. The parademics performed CPR and took him to UCLA Medical Center, Ruda told The Times.

[Updated at 2:12 p.m.: Paramedics were called to a home on the 100 block of Carolwood Drive (http://www.latimes.com/classified/realestate/printedition/la-hmw-hotpropjackson7-2009jan07,0,2867482.story) off Sunset Boulevard. Jackson rented the Bel Air home (http://www.latimes.com/classified/realestate/printedition/la-hmw-hotpropjackson7-2009jan07,0,2867482.story) for $100,000 a month. It was described as a French chateau estate built in 2002 with seven bedrooms, 13 bathrooms, 12 fireplaces and a theater.

The home is about 2 minutes away from UCLA Medical Center.]

The news comes as Jackson, 50, was attempting a comeback after years of tabloid headlines, most notably his trial and acquittal on child molestation charges.

In May, The Times reported that Jackson was living in a Bel-Air mansion and rehearsing for a series of 50 sold-out shows (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-jackson12-2009may12,0,2710159.story) in London's O2 Arena. Jackson had won the backing of two billionaires to get the so-called "King of Pop" back on stage.

His backers envision the shows at AEG's O2 as an audition for a career rebirth that could ultimately encompass a three-year world tour, a new album, movies, a Graceland-like museum, musical revues in Las Vegas and Macau, and even a "Thriller" casino. Such a rebound could wipe out Jackson's massive debt.

Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-rushed-to-the-hospital/)

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/06/0625_mjacksonhospital062509_01_x17_ex.jpg
We've just learned Michael Jackson was taken by ambulance to a hospital in Los Angeles ... and we're told it was cardiac arrest and that paramedics administered CPR in the ambulance ... and it's looking bad.

He was picked up at his home around 20 minutes ago -- we're told his mother is on the way to visit him.

UPDATE: The 911 call came in at 12:21PM at his Holmby Hills home in L.A.

UPDATE: A Jackson family member tells TMZ Michael is in "really bad shape" and the brothers are headed to UCLA.

UPDATE: We just got off the phone with Joe Jackson, Michael's dad, who says "he is not doing well."

mazel tov!!!

When I heard about his lung disease I gave him a month. That was several months ago but looks like it finally caught up with him.

Michael Jackson rushed to hospital [Updated] (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/pop-star-michael-jackson-was-rushed-to-a-hospital-this-afternoon-by-los-angeles-fire-department-paramedics--capt-steve-ruda.html)

Pop star Michael Jackson was rushed to a hospital this afternoon by Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics.
Capt. Steve Ruda said paramedics responded to a call at Jackson's home around 12:26 p.m. He was not breathing when they arrived. The parademics performed CPR and took him to UCLA Medical Center, Ruda told The Times.

[Updated at 2:12 p.m.: Paramedics were called to a home on the 100 block of Carolwood Drive (http://www.latimes.com/classified/realestate/printedition/la-hmw-hotpropjackson7-2009jan07,0,2867482.story) off Sunset Boulevard. Jackson rented the Bel Air home (http://www.latimes.com/classified/realestate/printedition/la-hmw-hotpropjackson7-2009jan07,0,2867482.story) for $100,000 a month. It was described as a French chateau estate built in 2002 with seven bedrooms, 13 bathrooms, 12 fireplaces and a theater.

The home is about 2 minutes away from UCLA Medical Center.]

The news comes as Jackson, 50, was attempting a comeback after years of tabloid headlines, most notably his trial and acquittal on child molestation charges.

In May, The Times reported that Jackson was living in a Bel-Air mansion and rehearsing for a series of 50 sold-out shows (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-jackson12-2009may12,0,2710159.story) in London's O2 Arena. Jackson had won the backing of two billionaires to get the so-called "King of Pop" back on stage.

His backers envision the shows at AEG's O2 as an audition for a career rebirth that could ultimately encompass a three-year world tour, a new album, movies, a Graceland-like museum, musical revues in Las Vegas and Macau, and even a "Thriller" casino. Such a rebound could wipe out Jackson's massive debt.

S.909 hearings are happening today. Why let your little minds be distracted with such rubbish?
If S.909 passes, then the Western White man is going to get what he has earned.

Just Beat It.

His most profitable gimmick was the dancing zombie shtick, all he needs now is a puppeteer and his handlers could still make a fortune.

Death NOT confirmed, the LA Times indicates he was taken to the hospital with a presumed cardiac arrest. Supposedly he is in a coma at this moment.

^ Apparently TMZ says he's dead, they're pretty good at this kind of thing. They interrupted the court shows I was watching(for my weekly dose of hilarious TNB) on my local Fox station to say that.

Apparently now the L.A. Times site IS saying that Jacko is in fact deceased.

www.latimes.com

Tough break for Farrah..... getting overshadowed like this.

I wonder how long until the Jewsmedia turns him into some kind of pioneer/black-turned-white super hero? How long until there's a Wacko-Jacko Day? I can imagine the state of California ordering all boys under age 8 fly their pants at half mast to show respect for this piece of shit.

Never forget who your enemy is, White man.

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_35630.aspx

The King Of Pop, Michael Jackson, has reportedly died at the age of 50 after suffering an apparent heart attack.

Good riddance; hope the nonce rots in hell.

Boo.....fucking.......hoo.

Hey, at least keep in mind: Michael Jackson detested niggers as much as we do.

They say celebrity deaths come in threes. Who's next?

Hey, at least keep in mind: Michael Jackson detested niggers as much as we do.

He also liked to molest children as much as the Jews do.

I'll tell ya one thing. Those white kids he was pretending were his biological offspring are breathing a sigh of relief this afternoon.

They say celebrity deaths come in threes. Who's next?

Madonna, please?

BBC has just confirmed the nonce is dead.

They say celebrity deaths come in threes. Who's next?

Ed McMahon yesertday
FF and MJ today

Hey, at least keep in mind: Michael Jackson detested niggers as much as we do.

He was also jew-aware as evidenced by his song "They Don't Care About US"

Jew me, sue me
Everybody do me
Kick me, kike me

Perhaps this comment is more appropriate for the Nutzpah forum, but maybe we can posthumously bestow him the 'Righteous Negro' award?

:D :D :D :D :D

Man.. blanket is going to have a tough time growing up

Who's going to molest him now?

I admit I am little sad about this news....the reason is because when ever I listen to his music I remember my childhood. Just being honest.

They say celebrity deaths come in threes. Who's next?

Well we already had Bea Arthur and Ed McMahon and David Carradine so we should be good for a while.

It's all just a massive hoax. Michael was tired of public pressure and engineered this to gain some privacy. He's probably somewhere in the Caribbean, sipping cocktails with Elvis and Jim Morrison while laughing at the news reports.

Ed McMahon yesertday
FF and MJ todayOh yeah, I'd already forgotten him. So the threes thing proved itself again.

YouTube - Michael Jackson - Childhood (Video)

He was also jew-aware as evidenced by his song "They Don't Care About US"

Jew me, sue me
Everybody do me
Kick me, kike me

Perhaps this comment is more appropriate for the Nutzpah forum, but maybe we can posthumously bestow him the 'Righteous Negro' award?

:D :D :D :D :D

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Well we already had Bea Arthur and Ed McMahon so we should be good for a while.

No, Farrah Fawcett died right before Jackson did, so he started a new one. We've got two more to go, thank goodness.

The funeral should prove to be a most entertaining freak show.

maybe we can posthumously bestow him the 'Righteous Negro' award?Well, just by dying he's already earned the "good negro" designation.

Tonight there is a new angel in heaven ---- and the cherubs are fleeing in terror! :D

The Warlord

Tonight there is a new angel in heaven ---- and the cherubs are fleeing in terror! :D

The Warlord


Funniest joke in this whole thread. :D

BREAKING NEWS

Michael Jackson rises from dead, claims to be new Jesus Christ

He died happy! They took him to a children's hospital.:)

No, Farrah Fawcett died right before Jackson did, so he started a new one. We've got two more to go, thank goodness.

You seem to be forgetting Dom DeLouise and David Carridine

Get ready for the biggest fucking avalanche of race,religious and musical horseshit propaganda from every single TV network,paper,magazine news and pop "culture" show - the big four and cable - shoving every single black racist religious figure,spewing the typical,textbook nigger abomination-of-religion psychobabble/self-righteousness,niggerbabbling about The Thing Of Pop as God/Jesus and,especially how he/IT "transcended race"( This from the Thing that sided with nigger racists galore,in his last few years ),and from White and Jewish leftists in showbiz,politics,music critics,and worse, for WEEKS to come.

My mother was nauseated by nearly endless flood of media bullshit when Frank Sinatra died in 1998.She ain't seen nothing yet.

I actually though radio talk show host Michael Jackson had died.

Obama might declare a holiday!

I hope there's a hell and I hope he's in it.

I'm watching the CNN stream and they are interviewing, via satellite, one of their own female reporters who is bawling her eyes out over his death. She compared him to Elvis.

I hope there's a hell and I hope he's in it.


Awww...thats not very nice to say.

Have you seen my Childhood, Elizabeth?


YouTube - Michael Jackson - Childhood (Video)

(bubbles the chimp makes an appearance in the video at 3:59)

Sung to the tune of Michael Jackson's "Bad"

Because I'm Dead, I'm Dead-
Come On
(Dead Dead-Really, Really Dead)
You Know I'm Dead, I'm Dead-
You Know It
(Dead Dead-Really, Really Dead)
You Know I'm Dead, I'm Dead-
Come On, You Know
(Dead Dead-Really, Really Dead)
And The Whole World Has To
Answer Right Now
Just To Tell You Once Again,
Who's Dead . . .

:D

You guys are so cruel.

I have a feeling Mike was a very gentle molester.

I intuit he molested with care, even sweetness.

I labored for several years under the delusion that he was a white woman. Literally.

Hey, I was like 7 or 8 at the time :)

I labored for several years under the delusion that he was a white woman. Literally.

Hey, I was like 7 or 8 at the time :)

He was living proof of the Amerikwan dream. Where a poor black boy could grow up to be a rich white woman.

I can already envision the neauseating spectacle/FARCE his funeral will be - as ALL big name nigger funerals are - especially in the church/Black Mass Coven; every fucking Racist Nigger Race-Baiter,anything-but-cleverly-disguised as a Reverend/minister, will be there to exploit/race bait as they always do.

Brace yourself for all the TV specials about The Thing of Pop,

Get ready for

Statues to be erected,in cities all over the fucking world,

Buildings galore to be named,and - WORSE - re-named after The Thing of Pop,

The equivalent of Graceland to be built,

Endless books to be written,propagandising the most nauseating bullshit,by the usual suspects - black rascists,self-loathing White and Jewish Leftists.

And on,and on,and on.And, like Elvis,we will never stop hearing about The Thing ,no matter how many decades go by........

It will be Jew Propaganda at it's finest,as it has done so for so many decades,for so many other worthless niggers of no talent that have come before,that the Jews and niggers grossly exaggerate the "talents" of.

Sung to the tune of Michael Jackson's "Bad" :D

Critics panned this song because it just didn't have the same energy and life that 'Bad' possessed.

The funeral should prove to be a most entertaining freak show.


http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj82/coloneltaylor/user2754_pic400_1236673854.jpg

A queer nigger paedophile is dead, perhaps by his own hand.
What's not to like? :hangnig:

Finally a great day for California !!!

Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett have died on the same day. What a dilemma for celebrities! "Which funeral do I attend?" The media has answered the question. Farrah died first, but on this day MJ's death receives top billing.

Of course, we already knew that he was brain dead a long time ago after so many "whitening" procedures and his kiddy-diddling.

He should have died of ass cancer instead of Farrah Fawcett.
Death NOT confirmed, the LA Times indicates he was taken to the hospital with a presumed cardiac arrest. Supposedly he is in a coma at this moment.

Hmmm, just wondering if every business in amerika will be shut down tomorrow to morn his loss.
I was in line at the grocery when I heard some young woman with a small boy in her arms say, "wow michael jackson just died, how sad." I looked over to her and said, "it's a shame you weren't able to send your young son to neverland for a weekend visit with michael." A blank stare..

I can already envision the neauseating spectacle/FARCE his funeral will be - as ALL big name nigger funerals are - especially in the church/Black Mass Coven; every fucking Racist Nigger Race-Baiter,anything-but-cleverly-disguised as a Reverend/minister, will be there to exploit/race bait as they always do.

Any wagers on the chance of a shooting/chimpout at the funeral?

My vote for best post on the thread:

Mr.X Hmmm, just wondering if every business in amerika will be shut down tomorrow to morn his loss.
I was in line at the grocery when I heard some young woman with a small boy in her arms say, "wow michael jackson just died, how sad." I looked over to her and said, "it's a shame you weren't able to send your young son to neverland for a weekend visit with michael." A blank stare..

I might borrow that tomorrow at work.;)

Did niggers even listen to his music?

Why did Michael like 29 year olds?

Because there's 20 of them.

This is too funny.




http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090626/capt.23bea2d50a0b4eff862e707f1b00b84c.obit_michael_jackson_reax_capa102.jpg
Fans remember Michael Jackson at the star they believe belongs to pop star Michael Jackson but that belongs to a radio personality of the same name on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, Thursday June 25, 2009 in Los Angeles.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Michael-Jackson/photo//090626/482/23bea2d50a0b4eff862e707f1b00b84c//s:/ap/20090626/ap_on_en_mu/us_obit_michael_jackson_scene

Did niggers even listen to his music?
That's a good question. Most of his music is either soft and relaxed, or features guitar/rock arrangements, can't blast that on your Alpines. T.N.B.

Best MJ joke:

Q: When do children know it is time for bed at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch?

A: When the big hand touches the little hand.

Fox News is showing live coverage of the helicopter containing Jacko's body on the way to the morgue. Can't miss a thing here in the Kwa!


Q: Have you heard about Michael Jackson's New Book?
A: It's called, "The In's and Out's of Child Rearing

Q: What's the difference between Michael Jackson and a grocery bag?
A: One is white, made out of plastic, and dangerous for kids to play with and the other you carry your groceries in !!

Q: Why was Michael Jackson spotted at K-Mart?
A: He heard boys' pants were half-off !!

`Did you hear about Michael Jackson's toaster?
~The bread goes in brown, and comes out white.

`What does Michael Jackson call a circumcision?
~Foreplay.

Q: How does Michael Jackson pick his nose?
A: From a catalogue.

`What does Michael Jackson reminisce about when he gets nostalgic?
~Blowing his first nose.

Q: Why did Michael Jackson place a phone call to Boyz-2-Men??
A: He thought it was a delivery service.

The radio Michael Jackson is a jew. Thus, he'z on the Walk.

Maybe this is one of those nutzpah lounge nutty conspiracies foretold in song lytics, sorta' like John Lennon and the number 9 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_9_Dream#The_Number_9):


"You've been hit by, you've been hit by, a smooth criminal!" -- Michael Jackson


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Smooth_Criminal.jpg

I wonder what Michael thought of Farrah dying this morning? Was he like, "man that's sad, life is short...I can't feel my left arm"

I don't know, just a random thought.

I guess he'll be best remembered for being the only black pop star who tried to turn himself into a white guy. Oh that, and his predilection for young white boys.

Check out the auction of his possessions. He was like a big child - it's all Disney and Peter Pan and Americana garbage.

http://www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2009/michael-jackson/

A nigger gives his thoughts on Michael Jackson:

YouTube - Katt Williams on Michael Jackson

I guess his Neverland estate will now become a National Museum? Maybe the jews can get a Holoco$t section.

I guess he'll be best remembered for being the only black pop star who tried to turn himself into a white guy. Oh that, and his predilection for young white boys.

Check out the auction of his possessions. He was like a big child - it's all Disney and Peter Pan and Americana garbage.

http://www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2009/michael-jackson/

They want $500 just for the catalog.

http://www.juliensauctions.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=57

YouTube - Michael Jackson Statement

From the LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/photo/2009-06/47714074-25210043.jpg

Jackson was part of the kikey race mixing promotion agenda.

They are also comparing him to Napoleon.

Goodbye King of Pop
Though I never knew you at all
You had the grace to uphold yourself
While those around you crawled

They crawled out of the woodwork
And they whispered into your face
They demanded that you moonwalk
And they made you change your race

And it seems to me, you lived your life
Like a candle in the wind
Never knowing who to fondle
When the rain set in
And I would have liked to have known you
But I was not a kid
Just like the time your hair caught fire
Your candle burned, it did.

Lonliness was tough
The toughest role you ever played
So you created the Neverland Ranch
And young boys you laid

On the day you died
Farah Faucet passed away too
She died of ass cancer
Why oh why, couldn't that have been you

And it seems to me, you lived your life
Like a candle in the wind
Never knowing who to fondle
When the rain set in
And I would have liked to have known you
But I was not a kid
Just like the time your hair caught fire
Your candle burned, it did

Goodbye King of Pop
I salute you with a white glove on my hand
I sees you as something more than sexual
More than just a freak show losing his tan

And it seems to me, you lived your life
Like a candle in the wind
Never knowing who to fondle
When the rain set in
And I would have liked to have known you
But I was not a kid
Just like the time your hair caught fire
Your candle burned, it did

^What a douche.^

Anyways, I bet the Jackson "four" is swarming on his shit like bees. Too bad he auctioned all of his shit off at Christie's. LOL

He died like many other niggers-dope.

Last night it was suspected his collapse could have been caused by an overdose of painkiller.
An Emergency Room source at UCLA hospital said Jackson aides told medics he had collapsed after an injection of potent Demerol — similar to morphine.
A Jacko source said: “Shortly after taking the Demerol he started to experience slow shallow breathing.
“His breathing gradually got slower and slower until it stopped.
“His staff started mouth-to-mouth and an ambulance was called which got there in eight minutes “But found he was in full respiratory arrest, no breathing and no pulse. They started full CPR and rushed him to hospital.
“When he arrived they started resuscitation, giving him heart shocks and inserted a breathing tube and other supportive measures to try and save his life.

But after The Sun revealed that he was suffering from skin cancer there were fears that he was not fit enough to complete the tour.
Experts found spots of skin cancer on his upper body and pre-cancerous cells on his face.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2501914/Michael-Jacksons-last-moments.html

His dermatologist was Dr. Arnold Klein. His ex-wife was jew Debbie Rowe, a once time nursing assistant to his skin specialist. His kids, anybody's guess.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/18/michael-jackson-jacko-dr-arnie-klein-arnold-dermatologist-vitiligo-child-jmolestation/

MJ built Stalinesque statues of himself and seems to have suffered a similiar fate.

-- Cthulhu

His jew lawyer was just saying today how excellent his health was:

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90782/6687014.html

Just click here (http://www.michaeljacksonfan.com/guestbook/index.php) and you can leave your sincerest condolences on Jackscoon's guest book. No registration required. :)

Hey, at least keep in mind: Michael Jackson detested niggers as much as we do.

Ah yes: "Spabooks".

Still, it was a nig-turned-white woman pedofag, so bon appetit, nightcrawlers.

is that whole circus some elaborate hoax?
itz televitz..:rolleyes:

Michael Jackson and his wife are in the recovery room
with their new baby son.

The doctor walks in and Michael asks:
"Doctor, how long before we can have sex?"

The doctor replies, "I'd wait until he's at least 14." :eek:

I heard that Michael Jackson had his Heart Attack after hearing a
K-Mart ad and was running out his front door when it happened .
The ad simply said , little boy's underwear half off .

Is he in Heaven with the Elephant Man?!?!?!

CNN is reporting that Jackson died from food poisoning. Apparently his last meal was a 9 year old wiener.

He died like many other niggers-dope.

And deeply in debt.

*as artificially White as he had made himself apparently the nigger within him was very much there. Having just heard this related on MSNBC from a Jackson biographer - I found a related article online:

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,428698,00.html

Hex Marks the Spot

Jacko put a voodoo curse on Spielberg, & Geffen. He reportedly paid an African witch doctor to conduct a blood ritual that would leave 25 enemies dead. :nigdrum:

HEAL THE WORLD Jackson reportedly tried to put a hex on his enemies
Michael Jackson: Frazer Harrison/Getty Images

By Gary Susman

Gary Susman
Just when you thought there was nothing left to learn about Michael Jackson, there comes a magazine article that unearths a nugget that Martin Bashir somehow missed in eight months of filming the King of Pop for his TV documentary. According to an article in the new issue of Vanity Fair, Jackson hired a West African shaman three years ago to put a voodoo curse on Steven Spielberg, David Geffen, and 23 other enemies that was supposed to kill them within a week.

The Malian witch doctor, named Baba, reportedly slaughtered 42 cows and had Jackson bathe in sheep's blood to seal the hex. Jackson paid Baba $150,000 for his services, which apparently should have come with a money-back guarantee. For his part, Spielberg says he doesn't know what Jackson has against him; the director and the singer have rarely met. ''This is bizarre, but what else is new?,'' a Spielberg spokesman told the New York Daily News.

The Vanity Fair article also corroborates earlier reports of other Jackson oddities. For instance, it reports that the tip of Jackson's nose really is a prosthesis; without it, says one person who's seen the fake schnozz, he would look like ''a mummy with two nostril holes.'' Also, as revealed in earlier reports, the court papers from onetime business manager Myung Ho Lee's current breach-of-contract suit indicate that Jackson spends lavishly, beyond his means, and owes hundreds of millions of dollars in debt, mostly to his label, Sony, which may foreclose on Jackson's share of the Beatles' song rights (half-owned by Sony) in order to collect. And a member of the Los Angeles district attorney's office tells Vanity Fair that Jackson paid for the silence of not one but at least 10 pre-pubescent boys, whom Jackson would replace annually, à la Menudo, ''as soon as they started sprouting whiskers.'' Contacted by the Daily News, Jackson's camp declined to comment on the story.

http://www.deadmichaeljacksonjokes.com/

MJ has asked to have his ashes put into a etch-o-sketch dirty bastard still finding ways to get kids to play with his knob
Submitted By: Billy Jean
On:2009-06-26 08:40:48

When Farrah Fawcett arrived at heaven, God granted her one wish. She wished for all the children to be safe. So God killed Michael Jackson.
Submitted By: KB
On:2009-06-26 08:39:15

A perfect example of a Jewish icon.

A sick twisted faggot with identity issues and no talent.

I remember during the 80's the media just kept on pounding into the public of how great he was. I always thought he was just a Nigger.

And as with so many "artists" that have been that big, sales of their albums and other things will go through the roof immediately. The music charts will become re-polluted with many of his( i.e. ITS ) shit again.Radio will play the shit,non-stop for weeks( MTV ,VH1,BET,etc,which stopped playing videos years ago, are suddenly polluting their filthy networks' schedules with them,sine the moment he/IT was pronounced dead ).People suddenly get all guilt-ridden and become afraid that artists music will suddenly disappear from the stores, and go on hysterical,insane shopping sprees ,as when Elvis,that devil John Lennon,Frank Sinatra,to name a few,died.

I didn't fall for it for them, and I'm sure as hell not gonna do it for this typically overrated nigger/hermaphrodyte/manchild/homosexual paedophile/race-exploiter/exploiter of almost every religion to help his career to make racist statements and make big money - especially Jizz-lam, and so many other rotten things,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc.

And deeply in debt.

Maybe that's why he had the "jew me, screw me" lyrics that caused such an uproar among the kikes?

http://i39.tinypic.com/15gpmxy.jpg

Michael Jackson, the sheikh and the comeback album that came too late

The bestselling solo artist of all time had been dropped by record label Sony and his last album, 2001's Invincible, was critically mauled. It sold less than 8m copies worldwide – compared with more than 100m for 1982's Thriller. He had not been in the American top 10 since 2001.

Jackson's death has caused a surge in sales of his existing albums. Less than 12 hours after his death was reported, Amazon's bestselling 12 records were by Michael Jackson. Now there is the prospect of fresh material with a more edgy, contemporary sound delivered by hit-makers Jackson hired. It is unclear how much of the proceeds from any release will go to settling Jackson's personal debts stemming from his lavish lifestyle.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jun/26/michael-jackson-unreleased-album

Why lookie heeyuh....while reporting that he/IT died as a result of his heart and breathing starting soon after from an injection of Demerol, FOX 'news' puts up some stat about heart problems being in higher numbers than Whites....of coooooouuuuuurrrrrrse, that's precisely why the Thing died. If that were true,then how come his/ITS parents and older brothers aren't dead?

Very irresponsible and TOTALLY IRRELEVANT TO THIS STORY,FOX.

How many of you can do anything 10% as well as Jackson could sing and dance?

It's not a rule here, but nigger ought to be reserved for genuine niggers, not as a generic epithet.

Three points about Jackson, from the WN POV:

1) He hated niggers. Called them spabooks. Considered them animals. He looked at his fellow blacks as jews look at gentiles.

2) He hated jews. No doubt from dealing with them, and seeing their complete lack of a soul combined with their profiteering and sharp business practices. He even included anti-jew lyrics in a song.

3) His father actually had a plan for the clan. Do you have that for your kids? Did your parents have that? No matter Michael grew to hate him, he still was made something of, purely by his father's will. That's respectable. Very much like Richard Williams, the coon's coon who correctly perceived an athletic opening for asphalt-poor niggers in the white tennis world. Worthy of respect.

Two good Michael Jackson songs:

ABC
YouTube - Jackson 5 - ABC (Full song)

Human Nature '...why? why?...tell 'em it's just human nature...' - this is as unforgettable a melody/lyrical sequence as Beethoven's Fur Elise, and similar in tone and feel
YouTube - Michael Jackson Tribute- Human Nature

Then there's his invention of moonwalking - as cool as smoking. Extremely difficult, extremely difficult to do, and he does it like it's easy.

YouTube - Endless Moonwalk / Billie Jean

How many of you can invent a persona, a dance move, a song worth listening to?

The only stuff legitimately said against him was whatever he did with/to children, and that was never really cleared up, was it? I would tend to side against the prosecutors and the press. It is in the nature of the slobocracy, as we enjoy in the 'Kwa, to destroy anything different, because the brainless, talentless mob isn't comfortable with anything not as tasteless, ugly and stupid as itself.

If respect is due, it is White to show respect - no matter the race of the individual in question.

The only stuff legitimately said against him was whatever he did with/to children, and that was never really cleared up, was it? I would tend to side against the prosecutors and the press. It is in the nature of the slobocracy, as we enjoy in the 'Kwa, to destroy anything different, because the brainless, talentless mob isn't comfortable with anything not as tasteless, ugly and stupid as itself.

If respect is due, it is White to show respect - no matter the race of the individual in question.


Very good point Linder, very good.


the brainless, talentless mob isn't comfortable with anything not as tasteless, ugly and stupid as itself.

I've known this one to be especially true throughout my lifetime.

It takes rare Aryan leadership to elevate them above their station. Which is a big part of the reason we're in the mess we're in today.

It is easy to get caught up in coon bashing however. Especially when the comments are half as witty as the ones here.

Very good point Linder, very good.

Yeah, if you like negro music.

I don't think someone who hired

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This guy as his 'spiritual advisor' hates jews as much as we'd like to think

I don't think someone who hired

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This guy as his 'spiritual advisor' hates jews as much as we'd like to think

He was probably trying to get out of the bad press from his lyrics.

If he paid that much money to put a hex on Geffen (jew queer) and Spielberg, he certainly disliked jews. Not his main focus, obviously, but I'm sure anyone as central to the music industry had his fill of kikes.

As for negro music, Jackson wasn't particulary ethnic. Plenty of blacks can sing 'white' or white-acceptable music. Not saying I like most Jackson stuff, I don't. His voice is too high.

Truly black shit is the rap that came in right after Jackson's period.

Then there is his jewish ex, his jewish doctor, his jewish lawyer...

Although Wakena tells me that he is America's special nigger, he was as much a media creation as anything else. I don't call the "moonwalk" dancing. Writing songs is not as hard as you imagine. And yes, I'm 90% more talented than Michael Jackson on his best day.

Stamp "Made in Judea" on the corpse and flush it.

The only valid point you made was having a plan for the clan, but don't have a nigger plan, have an Aryan, Lord of the Land, one.

Damn, all credit where credit is due: his moonwalk was pretty insane. Looks like he's being assisted by a conveyor belt or something.

How many of you can do anything 10% as well as Jackson could sing and dance?

It's not a rule here, but nigger ought to be reserved for genuine niggers, not as a generic epithet.

Three points about Jackson, from the WN POV:

1) He hated niggers. Called them spabooks. Considered them animals. He looked at his fellow blacks as jews look at gentiles.

2) He hated jews. No doubt from dealing with them, and seeing their complete lack of a soul combined with their profiteering and sharp business practices. He even included anti-jew lyrics in a song.

3) His father actually had a plan for the clan. Do you have that for your kids? Did your parents have that? No matter Michael grew to hate him, he still was made something of, purely by his father's will. That's respectable. Very much like Richard Williams, the coon's coon who correctly perceived an athletic opening for asphalt-poor niggers in the white tennis world. Worthy of respect.

Two good Michael Jackson songs:

ABC
YouTube - Jackson 5 - ABC (Full song) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOXG8wtxx_w&feature=player_embedded)

Human Nature '...why? why?...tell 'em it's just human nature...' - this is as unforgettable a melody/lyrical sequence as Beethoven's Fur Elise, and similar in tone and feel
YouTube - Michael Jackson Tribute- Human Nature (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ber5DrM6dG8)

Then there's his invention of moonwalking - as cool as smoking. Extremely difficult, extremely difficult to do, and he does it like it's easy.

YouTube - Endless Moonwalk / Billie Jean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpnPiuKxm6U)

How many of you can invent a persona, a dance move, a song worth listening to?

The only stuff legitimately said against him was whatever he did with/to children, and that was never really cleared up, was it? I would tend to side against the prosecutors and the press. It is in the nature of the slobocracy, as we enjoy in the 'Kwa, to destroy anything different, because the brainless, talentless mob isn't comfortable with anything not as tasteless, ugly and stupid as itself.

If respect is due, it is White to show respect - no matter the race of the individual in question.

It's exactly this type of blacks that have to removed first from any white society. Blacks with a higher IQ who are able to meet standards.

Sure, there are some things worthy of appreciation about him, but his overall influence on the music industry is a bad one from our point of view. He led the way to misconceptions about blacks, he made people think that afros are mostly like him, which is true maybe in 0.1% of cases.

Then there is his jewish ex, his jewish doctor, his jewish lawyer...

Although Wakena tells me that he is America's special nigger, he was as much a media creation as anything else. I don't call the "moonwalk" dancing. Writing songs is not as hard as you imagine. And yes, I'm 90% more talented than Michael Jackson on his best day.

Stamp "Made in Judea" on the corpse and flush it.

The only valid point you made was having a plan for the clan, but don't have a nigger plan, have an Aryan, Lord of the Land, one.

One of the stupidest posts ever made on this forum. You're not a pimple on Jackson's ass for talent. If you are, then post one song you've made, or one writing anyone even understood, let alone read twice. You're the type who thinks the confusion his words produce is a measure of his greatness. Moron.

It's exactly this type of blacks that have to removed first from any white society. Blacks with a higher IQ who are able to meet standards.

How do you know he has a high IQ? I've never seen that said of him. What he had was intense professional drilling from a very early age, so that he was already a professional singer/entertainer before he was 10. I think his personality was such that he didn't like the animal grossness of most of his fellow niggers.

He was certainly good at what he did. Anyone who can maintain that kind of lifestyle in spite of being hundreds of millions in debt, and remain almost universally loved by the public, in spite of all the scandals, must be doing something right.

Pop star Michael Jackson was caught on tape making anti-Semitic remarks, calling Jews "leeches."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1132475611341&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


Remember, Jews never forgive or forget.

Damn, all credit where credit is due: his moonwalk was pretty insane. Looks like he's being assisted by a conveyor belt or something.

Try to do it. There's a difference between athletic coordination and a certain physical liquidity. I have one but not the other - no matter how hard I tried, I could not do it acceptably. But there are whites who can. Of course, most blacks can't either.

Try to do it. There's a difference between athletic coordination and a certain physical liquidity. I have one but not the other - no matter how hard I tried, I could not do it acceptably. But there are whites who can. Of course, most blacks can't either.I've been looking around on YouTube since you posted that video, and while there are a few others who are good, Jackson was simply in a league of his own:

YouTube - BILLIE JEANS BEST EVER MOONWALK

His style of music and dance isn't my cup of tea, but anyone who says he wasn't talented is being either dishonest or stupid. Sort of like the guy I argued with a few weeks ago who said, "Mike Tyson can't fight."

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

One of the stupidest posts ever made on this forum. You're not a pimple on Jackson's ass for talent. If you are, then post one song you've made, or one writing anyone even understood, let alone read twice. You're the type who thinks the confusion his words produce is a measure of his greatness. Moron.

Hey nigger lover...

Of deeds done, undone, who shall weigh their cost?
What heavy rays have now sought out their prey?
Mourn not your loss, but what others have lost.

Must the congealed fears of years break from frost?
What a dark light has shone this dismal day,
of deeds done, undone. Who shall weigh their cost?

Who wills to be on grief's grey tempest tossed?
Wear, eternal sea, the shore! Tears, fragile clay!
Mourn not your loss, but what others have lost.

What burden to cross? At end what impost?
How greater the price, the burden to stay,
of deeds done, undone? Who shall weigh their cost?

And who may lead that it be safely crossed?
Shed is the way 'neath the onerous sway.
Mourn not your loss, but what others have lost.

One tempest tossed and lost who will accost?
"How much must I pay?" They pause, hiss and say:
"Of deeds done, undone, who shall weigh their cost?
Mourn not your loss, but what others have lost."

---

Weep! Love lies dead and withers to a shade.
Only her shadows cast shall soon remain
and all Beauty in the World with her fade.
For worship of shadows what can you gain,
when such exultation her light does drain?
O weep you all who were by her sustained.
Weep! yet are our most bitter tears in vain.
By her alone falls true emotion's rain
and now is the false praised, the real disdained.

Flowers tumble, thorns sharpen their embrace,
on the briar bed where Love lies in state.
Who sheltered 'neth her wing, come, take you place.
Come 'fore her mourn, yet do you hesitate.
Fear you to gaze upon Love's lifeless face,
of the light that once shone, to find no trace,
to be ever denied the hope, the grace,
that two disparate souls be interlaced?
O weep! by her loss are we all debased.

Faith faints away! Transformed she does arise,
Blessed hope a burden shorn from her mind.
What a proud vainglory laughs in her eyes!
Doubt to a keen edge with envy she grinds,
peels our most tender fruit with cuts unkind,
and throws 'way the pulp while eating the rind,
then teaches the poor, the downcast, the blind,
to praise it for the best dish of mankind!
To such mockery who may be resigned?

Once sweet Freedom has now lost her savour,
become a mere excuse for those who crave
indulgence in licentious behaviour,
whose appetites make them no more than slaves.
Who welcome chains as fortune's good favour
to entice others by their foul glamour.
Through force and fraud many they devour
smack their lips at the sacharrine flavour,
tho' the under taste be e'r so sour.

O dear Charity do you yet remain?
No! Your cloak now covers your sisters shame.
It has become a pall that only stains
your once good report and sacred name.
Seek you to shield them from justified blame
and sate your new found avarice for fame?
All in indignation should burn aflame
to watch you play cripples 'gainst the lame,
as pawns in a parsimonious game.

O weep! Love lies dead and withers to a shade!
Could a poet turn to heather this gorse,
or would you not tire of his tirade?
In vain 'tempts he to break the hollowmen's course,
now that Love lies dead and darkness pervades
every monument she with us made.
Weep for it is we who did her degrade,
and now for our crime we must with her fade.
Come put down your spade and with me weep.
Let the last tears trickle from the shallow we called a deep,
for now as we sowed we must this terrible harvest reap,
and find all our best verse become tawdry and cheap.

---

Veiled, the woman came once more,
Swung her naked foot, a lure.
A srong whisper her tongue did pour,
This poison is its own cure
Shrink back not nor it deplore,
For it brings a pleasure pure.

A strong whisper her tongue did pour,
This poison is its own cure.
Uncover it and let it soar,
Then it with my heat immure.
Shrink back not nor do it deplore,
For it brings a pleasure pure.

Uncover it and let it soar,
Then it with my heat immure.
Now that poison he sought to pour,
And secure the promised cure.
Shrink back not nor do it deplore,
For it brings a pleasure pure.

Now that poison he sought to pour,
And secure the promised cure.
With great vigour her veil tore,
In haste gave her full measure.
He shrunk back not nor did deplore,
And brought her pure pleasure.

---

and many more nigger lover. You want music get me a fucking studio. "But I being poor..."

You even know the names of the poetic forms above? Do you, you unculture loudmouth? And if you can't get it because it ain't some jew pushed nigger crap, that be your problem.

Course you don't. I can bring it nigger-lover. Best you believe it.

The movement is in far worse shape than I ever thought.

Hey nigger lover...

Of deeds done, undone, who shall weigh their cost?
What heavy rays have now sought out their prey?
Mourn not your loss, but what others have lost.

Must the congealed fears of years break from frost?
What a dark light has shone this dismal day,
of deeds done, undone. Who shall weigh their cost?

Who wills to be on grief's grey tempest tossed?
Wear, eternal sea, the shore! Tears, fragile clay!
Mourn not your loss, but what others have lost.

What burden to cross? At end what impost?
How greater the price, the burden to stay,
of deeds done, undone? Who shall weigh their cost?

And who may lead that it be safely crossed?
Shed is the way 'neath the onerous sway.
Mourn not your loss, but what others have lost.

One tempest tossed and lost who will accost?
"How much must I pay?" They pause, hiss and say:
"Of deeds done, undone, who shall weigh their cost?
Mourn not your loss, but what others have lost."This is actually a pretty good villanelle, but it would be better if you'd written the entire thing in iambic pentameter.

Should we not criticize people like Dante Stallworth who get 30 days in jail for a DUI/manslaughter charge? By this logic we show respect because he exhibits more talent in the ability to run, jump, and catch a football than this forum as a collective.

This is a dangerous measuring stick for something as important as respect.

and many more nigger lover. You want music get me a fucking studio. "But I being poor..."

You even know the names of the poetic forms above? Do you, you unculture loudmouth? And if you can't get it because it ain't some jew pushed nigger crap, that be your problem.

Course you don't. I can bring it nigger-lover. Best you believe it.

Your poetry is low-mediocre. Not mediocre with promise, but mediocre tapped-out - and only mediocre because we live in an age in which no one bothers with poetry since video is more interesting. You don't have the feel a real poet does.

A real poet is Elin Anderson, who used to write for VNN, and also for National Vanguard. Go look her up ask her if your poetry is any good. Hers is the real thing, yours is amateur. I suspect she's cold enough to give you an opinion worth having, if you approach her right.

Should we not criticize people like Dante Stallworth who get 30 days in jail for a DUI/manslaughter charge? By this logic we show respect because he exhibits more talent in the ability to run, jump, and catch a football than this forum as a collective.

This is a dangerous measuring stick for something as important as respect.

Hey, punky, if you want a cult, go rejoin NA.

Your logic isn't logic. The correct analogy would be someone claiming Stallworth had no football talent. No one is defending nigger criminals or what they did, but to NA-level Rope Bunnies, strawmen are easier to destroy.

This is actually a pretty good villanelle, but it would be better if you'd written the entire thing in iambic pentameter.

But then you often suffer a loss of give which art has. Most poets aren't that pedantic as the idea takes presidence. You will find that in all but the most strict forms.

As for you nigger lover you already have admitted not to know anything about poetry, not to have a feeling for it, so your judgement is worthless.

In this country money seems to create exceptions. A vast amount of cash changes someone from a nigger pedophile to a jew hating, "righteous negro" who had more talent than the rest of us because he could sing, dance, and fondle his balls all at the same time?

Come on, Alex. You know just as well as I do if this was your average nigger nutcase you would have burned him at the verbal stake.

Thousands of white men are locked out of the system because of the jew where niggers like jackson are pushed and rotated heavily. But nigger lover sides with the nigger and jew on the matter. Hey, I brought it nigger lover and you couldn't understand it. Couldn't even try. Why nigger lover?

Can't swallow your own bullshit?

Alex, I remember a while back you mentioned making a song and you were going to play it over radio istina, did that ever happen?

Here's jackson nigger lover. 90% better on this nigger's best day...

"Man In The Mirror"

I'm Gonna Make A Change,
For Once In My Life
It's Gonna Feel Real Good,
Gonna Make A Difference
Gonna Make It Right . . .

As I, Turn Up The Collar On My
Favourite Winter Coat
This Wind Is Blowin' My Mind
I See The Kids In The Street,
With Not Enough To Eat
Who Am I, To Be Blind?
Pretending Not To See
Their Needs
A Summer's Disregard,
A Broken Bottle Top
And A One Man's Soul
They Follow Each Other On
The Wind Ya' Know
'Cause They Got Nowhere
To Go
That's Why I Want You To
Know

I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
I'm Asking Him To Change
His Ways
And No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change
(Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change)
(Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah)

I've Been A Victim Of A Selfish
Kind Of Love
It's Time That I Realize
That There Are Some With No
Home, Not A Nickel To Loan
Could It Be Really Me,
Pretending That They're Not
Alone?

A Willow Deeply Scarred,
Somebody's Broken Heart
And A Washed-Out Dream
(Washed-Out Dream)
They Follow The Pattern Of
The Wind, Ya' See
Cause They Got No Place
To Be
That's Why I'm Starting With
Me
(Starting With Me!)

I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
(Ooh!)
I'm Asking Him To Change
His Ways
(Ooh!)
And No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change
(Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change)

I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
(Ooh!)
I'm Asking Him To Change His
Ways
(Change His Ways-Ooh!)
And No Message Could've
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make That . . .
(Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make That . . .)
Change!

I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror,
(Man In The Mirror-Oh
Yeah!)
I'm Asking Him To Change
His Ways
(Better Change!)
No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
(Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make The Change)
(You Gotta Get It Right, While
You Got The Time)
('Cause When You Close Your
Heart)
You Can't Close Your . . .Your
Mind!
(Then You Close Your . . .
Mind!)
That Man, That Man, That
Man, That Man
With That Man In The Mirror
(Man In The Mirror, Oh Yeah!)
That Man, That Man, That Man
I'm Asking Him To Change
His Ways
(Better Change!)
You Know . . .That Man
No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change
(Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change)
Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Oh Yeah!)
Gonna Feel Real Good Now!
Yeah Yeah! Yeah Yeah!
Yeah Yeah!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Ooooh . . .)
Oh No, No No . . .
I'm Gonna Make A Change
It's Gonna Feel Real Good!
Come On!
(Change . . .)
Just Lift Yourself
You Know
You've Got To Stop It.
Yourself!
(Yeah!-Make That Change!)
I've Got To Make That Change,
Today!
Hoo!
(Man In The Mirror)
You Got To
You Got To Not Let Yourself . . .
Brother . . .
Hoo!
(Yeah!-Make That Change!)
You Know-I've Got To Get
That Man, That Man . . .
(Man In The Mirror)
You've Got To
You've Got To Move! Come
On! Come On!
You Got To . . .
Stand Up! Stand Up!
Stand Up!
(Yeah-Make That Change)
Stand Up And Lift
Yourself, Now!
(Man In The Mirror)
Hoo! Hoo! Hoo!
Aaow!
(Yeah-Make That Change)
Gonna Make That Change . . .
Come On!
(Man In The Mirror)
You Know It!
You Know It!
You Know It!
You Know . . .
(Change . . .)
Make That Change.

In this country money seems to create exceptions. A vast amount of cash changes someone from a nigger pedophile to a jew hating, "righteous negro" who had more talent than the rest of us because he could sing, dance, and fondle his balls all at the same time?

Come on, Alex. You know just as well as I do if this was your average nigger nutcase you would have burned him at the verbal stake.

Do you understand the concept of a limited defense? No, you don't. You're NA material - smart enough for canon fodder, not much else.

I'm defending Jackson against charges he is untalented. By way of proof I provided two of his songs, both high quality, and a dance move he invented (as far as I know). I didn't say I want him in my country, or that I regard him as an honorary White.

Look, I know that you're the average WN idiot, but try to bear with me as I parse your stupidity:

A vast amount of cash changes someone from a nigger pedophile to a jew hating, "righteous negro"

This asinine statement can only mean two things.
1) Jackson paid me to make him good with our crowd.

I'm just going to say, no, he didn't.

2) The fact that Jackson, at one point, had hundreds of millions, has turned my view of him.

Have I ever shown excessive respect for people due to the amount of money they have? I can't think of a time. Occasionally I indicate respect for them limited to their professional ability in acquiring that money, but never simply because they have it. I'm not a snob.

There really isn't any wonder the jews are running things, is there?

The intellectual level here is still too low.

Here's jackson nigger lover. 90% better on this nigger's best day...

Apparently you're confused as to the difference between a pop song and a poem.

Human Nature '...why? why?...tell 'em it's just human nature...' - this is as unforgettable a melody/lyrical sequence as Beethoven's Fur Elise, and similar in tone and feel


By Jove! I've just finished listening to both pieces and the similarity is simply uncanny!

Take of the jew glasses and see the nigger for what it is. Swallow that pride and look at the man in the mirror there nigger lover.

Take of the jew glasses and see the nigger for what it is. Swallow that pride and look at the man in the mirror there nigger lover.

Just wondering, was that pun intentional? :)

Apparently you're confused as to the difference between a pop song and a poem.

Apparently you are confused as to what the difference is between nigger and white. I'm better in lyrical ability, as my lyrical poem suggests and I got more. Way more nigger lover.

Moon walk.... what a fucking rotter...

2) The fact that Jackson, at one point, had hundreds of millions, has turned my view of him.

That is exactly what I am saying.

The cut below shows you have no ear. The rhythm is completely messed up, the accents might as well have been placed by the wind.

A strong whisper her tongue did pour,
This poison is its own cure.
Uncover it and let it soar,
Then it with my heat immure.
Shrink back not nor do it deplore,
For it brings a pleasure pure.

Makes no sound-sense any way you read it.

One word for you, son. A-m-a-t-e-u-r.

No problem with that, nothing wrong with it. But don't kid yourself you're anywhere near Jackson's league.

Should have known, in the heart of every kwan you'll find that one special nigger.

Hey Cthulhu, that was pretty good.

As for you Linder, bagging him out after he rose to your challenge and proved he's got talent, that's bullshit.

Just 'cause he insulted you. That's pretty fucking petty.

I thought you were above all that. You certainly demand pretty high fucking standards from the rest of us. Waaah! don't make a typo, or you'll be tarded.

I also thought you were one to give credit where credit's due. As you certainly did in Jacksons case. Hell, it even made me feel bad for bagging him out, but now you won't do so for Cthulhu? What the fuck?

Take of the jew glasses and see the nigger for what it is. Swallow that pride and look at the man in the mirror there nigger lover.

I'm a nigger lover because...a) you think it will help you with other forum members, and b) because I give someone respect due. Yawn. You're a good example of Nietzsche's anti-semite driven by resentment.

The cut below shows you have no ear. The rhythm is completely messed up, the accents might as well have been placed by the wind.

A strong whisper her tongue did pour,
This poison is its own cure.
Uncover it and let it soar,
Then it with my heat immure.
Shrink back not nor do it deplore,
For it brings a pleasure pure.

Makes no sound-sense any way you read it.

One word for you, son. A-m-a-t-e-u-r.

No problem with that, nothing wrong with it. But don't kid yourself you're anywhere near Jackson's league.

You have no ear, and I'm in your age bracket nigger lover. Two words for you - tone and deaf.

It scans perfectly. Figured out the form yet nigger lover or are you too ignorant?

He was also jew-aware as evidenced by his song "They Don't Care About US"

Jew me, sue me
Everybody do me
Kick me, kike me

Perhaps this comment is more appropriate for the Nutzpah forum, but maybe we can posthumously bestow him the 'Righteous Negro' award?

:D :D :D :D :D


Jackson responded directly to the publication, stating:

The idea that these lyrics could be deemed objectionable is extremely hurtful to me, and misleading. The song in fact is about the pain of prejudice and hate and is a way to draw attention to social and political problems. I am the voice of the accused and the attacked. I am the voice of everyone. I am the skinhead, I am the Jew, I am the black man, I am the white man. I am not the one who was attacking. It is about the injustices to young people and how the system can wrongfully accuse them. I am angry and outraged that I could be so misinterpreted.

I'm a nigger lover because...a) you think it will help you with other forum members, and b) because I give someone respect due. Yawn. You're a good example of Nietzsche's anti-semite driven by resentment.

No dice. My aphorism is perfect. A wonder. As for your comeback, tired, bored, repeatative and useless, rather like Michael Jackson in fact.

Of deeds done, undone, who shall weigh their cost?
What heavy rays have now sought out their prey?
Mourn not your loss, but what others have lost.

Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Oh Yeah!)
Gonna Feel Real Good Now!
Yeah Yeah! Yeah Yeah!
Yeah Yeah!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Ooooh . . .)
Oh No, No No . . .

Must the congealed fears of years break from frost?
What a dark light has shone this dismal day,
of deeds done, undone. Who shall weigh their cost?

Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Oh Yeah!)
Gonna Feel Real Good Now!
Yeah Yeah! Yeah Yeah!
Yeah Yeah!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Ooooh . . .)
Oh No, No No . . .

Who wills to be on grief's grey tempest tossed?
Wear, eternal sea, the shore! Tears, fragile clay!
Mourn not your loss, but what others have lost.

Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Oh Yeah!)
Gonna Feel Real Good Now!
Yeah Yeah! Yeah Yeah!
Yeah Yeah!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Ooooh . . .)
Oh No, No No . . .

What burden to cross? At end what impost?
How greater the price, the burden to stay,
of deeds done, undone? Who shall weigh their cost?

Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Oh Yeah!)
Gonna Feel Real Good Now!
Yeah Yeah! Yeah Yeah!
Yeah Yeah!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Ooooh . . .)
Oh No, No No . . .

And who may lead that it be safely crossed?
Shed is the way 'neath the onerous sway.
Mourn not your loss, but what others have lost.

Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Oh Yeah!)
Gonna Feel Real Good Now!
Yeah Yeah! Yeah Yeah!
Yeah Yeah!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Ooooh . . .)
Oh No, No No . . .

One tempest tossed and lost who will accost?
"How much must I pay?" They pause, hiss and say:
"Of deeds done, undone, who shall weigh their cost?
Mourn not your loss, but what others have lost."

I've taken the liberty of updating one of your poems, hope you don't mind. It was lacking in na na nas and ho ho hos!

Apparently you are confused as to what the difference is between nigger and white. I'm better in lyrical ability, as my lyrical poem suggests and I got more. Way more nigger lover.

No you aren't. Jackson's Human Nature is on-the-charts more evocative than your sample.


Moon walk.... what a fucking rotter...

Like I said, he can do easily something that is extremely difficult. You can't.

Go ask Andersen. You're an amateur with delusions, common condition.

http://home.earthlink.net/~ellingreeranderson/

What? I don't rate a reply?

But then you often suffer a loss of give which art has. Most poets aren't that pedantic as the idea takes presidence. You will find that in all but the most strict forms.

As for you nigger lover you already have admitted not to know anything about poetry, not to have a feeling for it, so your judgement is worthless.

precedence

strictest

But do go on, Buffy.

That is exactly what I am saying.

I don't even know how to respond to this, it's so stupid. Have I praised Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, etc etc, no I've criticized them. How much money Jackson has is irrelevant.

No you aren't. Jackson's Human Nature is on-the-charts more evocative than your sample.



Like I said, he can do easily something that is extremely difficult. You can't.

Go ask Andersen. You're an amateur with delusions, common condition.

http://home.earthlink.net/~ellingreeranderson/

I'm not likely to ask a nigger lover with no ear and no poetic ability, or even feeling, for someone to turn to judge my poetic output. Why don't you ask Coulter for some tips?

Should have known, in the heart of every kwan you'll find that one special nigger.

A weak defense is better than nothing, eh?

I don't like most Jackson music, nor do I like his voice. Acknowledging that he could write pop songs, perform them skillfully, and dance remarkably is simple fact.

precedence

strictest

But do go on, Buffy.

Hey nigger lover, you've already proven yourself unworthy of respect. Why should I dot the t's and cross the i's for some tasteless clod. Not as even if the nigger you admire could even write legibly.

Big deal. One rule for some, one rule for the magic negro.

I also thought you were one to give credit where credit's due. As you certainly did in Jacksons case. Hell, it even made me feel bad for bagging him out, but now you won't do so for Cthulhu? What the fuck?

His poetry is on the level I described - amateur. I don't object to it or him, but I'm not going to go along with his delusion it's better than that. That's not an insult. The insult is him calling me a nigger lover for pointing out a black's genuine talents.

Hey nigger lover, you've already proven yourself unworthy of respect. Why should I dot the t's and cross the i's for some tasteless clod. Not as even if the nigger you admire could even write legibly.

Big deal. One rule for some, one rule for the magic negro.

Weak ego, typical of the loser. Boy, do we have a lot of them in 'the movement.'

Are you a winner, Alex?

I'm not likely to ask a nigger lover with no ear and no poetic ability, or even feeling, for someone to turn to judge my poetic output. Why don't you ask Coulter for some tips?

You're not likely to ask any real poet because you know what you'll hear. It will be just what I said, covered in technical jargon. Poetry aint my thing, but putting words together musically is. All I can tell you is - you aint got it.

Are you a winner, Alex?

I'm my own man. Are you?

Jackson responded directly to the publication, stating:

The idea that these lyrics could be deemed objectionable is extremely hurtful to me, and misleading. The song in fact is about the pain of prejudice and hate and is a way to draw attention to social and political problems. I am the voice of the accused and the attacked. I am the voice of everyone. I am the skinhead, I am the Jew, I am the black man, I am the white man. I am not the one who was attacking. It is about the injustices to young people and how the system can wrongfully accuse them. I am angry and outraged that I could be so misinterpreted.

He backed off, as did Marlon Brando, which is weak, but you can rest assured he meant it exactly the way it appears. You can imagine how much money the kikes made off him in his career, I'm sure he had very good reason to hate them.

By Jove! I've just finished listening to both pieces and the similarity is simply uncanny!

You tell me in your own words, with no sputtering, what makes Fur Elise better than Human Nature.

Here's jackson nigger lover. 90% better on this nigger's best day...

"Man in the mirror" was written by Glen Ballard and Siedah Garrett.

From wikipedia:
The song's lyrics were composed by Glen Ballard, Siedah Garrett (who can be heard singing in the background with Jackson) and Michael Jackson. Jackson added background vocals from Garrett, the Winans and the Andrae Crouch Choir, which gave the song its distinctive sound.


Here is one he actually did write.

She was more like a beauty queen from a movie scene
I said don't mind, but what do you mean I am the one
Who will dance on the floor in the round
She said I am the one, who will dance on the floor in the round

She told me her name was Billie Jean, as she caused a scene
Then every head turned with eyes that dreamed of being the one
Who will dance on the floor in the round

People always told me be careful of what you do
And don't go around breaking young girls' hearts
And mother always told me be careful of who you love
And be careful of what you do 'cause the lie becomes the truth

Billie Jean is not my lover
She's just a girl who claims that I am the one
But the kid is not my son
She says I am the one, but the kid is not my son

For forty days and for forty nights
The law was on her side
But who can stand when she's in demand
Her schemes and plans
'Cause we danced on the floor in the round
So take my strong advice, just remember to always think twice
(Do think twice)

She told my baby we'd danced till three, then she looked at me
Then showed a photo my baby cried his eyes were like mine (oh, no!)
'Cause we danced on the floor in the round, baby

People always told me be careful of what you do
And don't go around breaking young girls' hearts
She came and stood right by me
Then the smell of sweet perfume
This happened much too soon
She called me to her room

Billie Jean is not my lover
She's just a girl who claims that I am the one
But the kid is not my son

Billie Jean is not my lover
She's just a girl who claims that I am the one
But the kid is not my son
She says I am the one, but the kid is not my son

She says I am the one, but the kid is not my son
Billie Jean is not my lover
She's just a girl who claims that I am the one
But the kid is not my son
She says I am the one, but the kid is not my son

She says I am the one, but the kid is not my son
She says I am the one

Billie Jean is not my lover
Billie Jean is not my lover
Billie Jean is not my lover
Billie Jean is not my lover
Billie Jean is not my lover

Billie Jean is
Billie Jean is
Billie Jean is

Not my lover
Not my lover
Not my lover
Not my lover

Billie Jean is not my lover (she is just a girl)
Billie Jean is not my lover (she is just a girl)
Billie Jean is not my lover (she is just a girl)
Billie Jean is not my lover (she is just a girl)

Billie Jean is
Billie Jean is

Billie Jean is not my lover
Billie Jean is not my lover

Billie Jean is
Billie Jean is

Billie Jean is not my lover
Billie Jean is not my lover

Billie Jean is
Billie Jean is
You can see the level of skill use to rhyme son with one and then one with son, soon with room, do with truth, lover with lover and so on. This is what passes for lyricism. Write one line, repeat it 4 times.

You're not likely to ask any real poet because you know what you'll hear. It will be just what I said, covered in technical jargon. Poetry aint my thing, but putting words together musically is. All I can tell you is - you aint got it.

I've read for audiences. I got it. I am a real poet nigger lover, and don't ever forget it.

I'm my own man. Are you?

How does that pertain to my question? Let's try again:

Are you a winner, Alex?

The moonwalk was recorded as early as 1943 in a performance by tap dancer Bill Bailey.[citation needed] The French mime, Marcel Marceau, used it throughout his career (from the 1940s through the 1980s), as part of the drama of his mime routines, such as in trying to chase a balloon, etc. James Brown used the move in the 1980 film The Blues Brothers. Jeffrey Daniel performed a self-made variation of the moonwalk in a performance of Shalamar's "A Night To Remember" on Top of the Pops in 1982. A member of the Electric Boogaloos performance group, Timothy 'Popin Pete' Solomon, also performed the dance move in the Talking Heads video 'Crosseyed And Painless', which aired around 1981.[citation needed]

"Human Nature" is an R&B song by American recording artist Michael Jackson. It was written by Steve Porcaro and John Bettis, and produced by Quincy Jones for the singer's sixth solo album, Thriller (1982). Initially, Porcaro had recorded a rough demo of the song on a cassette, which was then given to Jones. Enjoying the demo, Jones had the ballad included on the Thriller album. The song was the last selected for the album, ousting "Carousel" from the final track listing.

I've read for audiences. I got it. I am a real poet nigger lover, and don't ever forget it.

Ah, well, as Guns 'n' Roses said, "Use your illusions." :)

How does that pertain to my question? Let's try again:

Are you a winner, Alex?

Is your real name King? Or you just play a king on the Internet?

I am not playing anything, Alex. Let's start off easier: define a loser and a winner. Then answer, are you a winner and if you are, why?

The moonwalk was recorded as early as 1943 in a performance by tap dancer Bill Bailey.[citation needed] The French mime, Marcel Marceau, used it throughout his career (from the 1940s through the 1980s), as part of the drama of his mime routines, such as in trying to chase a balloon, etc. James Brown used the move in the 1980 film The Blues Brothers. Jeffrey Daniel performed a self-made variation of the moonwalk in a performance of Shalamar's "A Night To Remember" on Top of the Pops in 1982. A member of the Electric Boogaloos performance group, Timothy 'Popin Pete' Solomon, also performed the dance move in the Talking Heads video 'Crosseyed And Painless', which aired around 1981.[citation needed]

"Human Nature" is an R&B song by American recording artist Michael Jackson. It was written by Steve Porcaro and John Bettis, and produced by Quincy Jones for the singer's sixth solo album, Thriller (1982). Initially, Porcaro had recorded a rough demo of the song on a cassette, which was then given to Jones. Enjoying the demo, Jones had the ballad included on the Thriller album. The song was the last selected for the album, ousting "Carousel" from the final track listing.

Interesting data. We'll have to say Jackson was the best moonwalker ever, but merely a good performer of Human Nature, which is a very good song. Thanks for doing the research.

I am not playing anything, Alex. Let's start off easier: define a loser and a winner. Then answer, are you a winner and if you are, why?

I answered your question. If you don't like how I answered it, that's your problem. Now you answer mine. Are you king, or is that just something you tiddle around with on the Internet?

I answered your question. If you don't like how I answered it, that's your problem. Now you answer mine. Are you king, or is that just something you tiddle around with on the Internet?

No Alex, you did not answer my question. You merely avoided it. You called the other poster a loser. I therefore assume that you consider yourself a winner. Define these terms and explain why and how you are a winner.

You tell me in your own words, with no sputtering, what makes Fur Elise better than Human Nature.

Beethoven was White.

No Alex, you did not answer my question. You merely avoided it. You called the other poster a loser. I therefore assume that you consider yourself a winner. Define these terms and explain why and how you are a winner.

Why do you call yourself a 'king'? Is it because you're a king in real life, or are you just the usual Internet poster-poser?

Beethoven was White.

Sorry, wrong answer.

Okay, my wife works in a hospital and she's been subjected to Jackson crap all day. She just shared this little tidbit:

Apparently, Jackson was $500,000,000 in debt. I don't know if that's just a rumor, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were true. Financial mismanagement is TNB. Tigers can't change their stripes . . .

Why do you call yourself a 'king'? Is it because you're a king in real life, or are you just the usual Internet poster-poser?

Is my name offensive to you, Alex? Why? What should be done about it? Should I change it?

Now, can you please answer my question? I have been courteous.

How many of you can do anything 10% as well as Jackson could sing and dance?

It's not a rule here, but nigger ought to be reserved for genuine niggers, not as a generic epithet.

Three points about Jackson, from the WN POV:

1) He hated niggers. Called them spabooks. Considered them animals. He looked at his fellow blacks as jews look at gentiles.

2) He hated jews. No doubt from dealing with them, and seeing their complete lack of a soul combined with their profiteering and sharp business practices. He even included anti-jew lyrics in a song.

3) His father actually had a plan for the clan. Do you have that for your kids? Did your parents have that? No matter Michael grew to hate him, he still was made something of, purely by his father's will. That's respectable. Very much like Richard Williams, the coon's coon who correctly perceived an athletic opening for asphalt-poor niggers in the white tennis world. Worthy of respect.

Two good Michael Jackson songs:

ABC
YouTube - Jackson 5 - ABC (Full song) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOXG8wtxx_w&feature=player_embedded)

Human Nature '...why? why?...tell 'em it's just human nature...' - this is as unforgettable a melody/lyrical sequence as Beethoven's Fur Elise, and similar in tone and feel
YouTube - Michael Jackson Tribute- Human Nature (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ber5DrM6dG8)

Then there's his invention of moonwalking - as cool as smoking. Extremely difficult, extremely difficult to do, and he does it like it's easy.

YouTube - Endless Moonwalk / Billie Jean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpnPiuKxm6U)

How many of you can invent a persona, a dance move, a song worth listening to?

The only stuff legitimately said against him was whatever he did with/to children, and that was never really cleared up, was it? I would tend to side against the prosecutors and the press. It is in the nature of the slobocracy, as we enjoy in the 'Kwa, to destroy anything different, because the brainless, talentless mob isn't comfortable with anything not as tasteless, ugly and stupid as itself.

If respect is due, it is White to show respect - no matter the race of the individual in question.

Years ago Michael Jackson said he got his "moonwalking" dance from watching hours of the films of a dancer named Fred Astaire.....to give credit where credit is due. Apparently, nearly everything Blacks do is stolen from the White Race.

Sorry, wrong answer.

[Sigh.] I recognize the futility of having this debate with a White guy who doesn't even like Wagner, but I'll do it anyway.

Fur Elise is such a serene, hauntingly beautiful piece of music it nearly defies description. And if the fact that Beethoven was White isn't enough for you, he possessed a genius nearly unparalleled in the history of music.

YouTube - Ludwig Van Beethoven-- Fur Elise

[Sigh.] I recognize the futility of having this debate with a White guy who doesn't even like Wagner, but I'll do it anyway.

Fur Elise is such a serene, hauntingly beautiful piece of music it nearly defies description. And if the fact that Beethoven was White isn't enough for you, he possessed a genius nearly unparalleled in the history of music.

As Elvis Costello said "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture".

It is hauntingly beautiful. I love it.

It is hauntingly beautiful. I love it.

There can only be one artist whose music is hauntingly beautiful. That's right! Zamfir - Master of the Pan Flute.

YouTube - ZAMFIR - THE LONELY SHEPHERD ( Einsamer Hirte ) - JAMES LAST ORCHESTRA

As Elvis Costello said "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture".

Well, Costello did write some pretty damned good tunes back in the 80s. I'll give him that. Here's an example, and it even has an anti-mainstream media message:

YouTube - ELVIS COSTELLO "Radio Radio"

It is hauntingly beautiful. I love it.

Cheers, Heather. Thanks for the back-up. ;)

Death NOT confirmed, the LA Times indicates he was taken to the hospital with a presumed cardiac arrest. Supposedly he is in a coma at this moment.

You all do understand that I, your roving reporter, broke the story of Jackson's death right here on the Vanguard News Network's forum don't you? While TMZ merely quoted Joe Jackson as stating, 'he's not doing well,' I reported that he was dead. VNN had a world wide exclusive and only after I broke the story of his death did other networks begin confirming what I already knew. And some time later at that.

Is my name offensive to you, Alex? Why? What should be done about it? Should I change it?

Just admit you chose it to pose. It's a not real clever way around the rules.


Now, can you please answer my question? I have been courteous.

I leave it to others to judge me. Of course I have my opinions, but that's my business.

There are certain behaviors that are in fact characteristic of losers, and whenever I see them on the forum here, I will point them out.

- withholding credit from an individual because of his race (loser behavior)

- exploding in obscenities when one is corrected for misspelling or some other minor mistake (loser behavior)

Hello
I very seldom ever post here and after reading some of the posts since I have joined, I would appreciate very much if you would remove my name and info from this organization.
As a father and grandfather I do not want to risk the chance that my granddaughter might be looking over my shoulder while reading.
I respect all of you and your opinions.
Thank You
OZZY

Hello
I very seldom ever post here and after reading some of the posts since I have joined, I would appreciate very much if you would remove my name and info from this organization.
As a father and grandfather I do not want to risk the chance that my granddaughter might be looking over my shoulder while reading.
I respect all of you and your opinions.
Thank You
OZZY

You must really like to be abused. Or you're a troll.

Two things!

One: I think of died from complications related to AIDS. :eek:

Two: What the hell am I going to do with 5 pairs of his comeback concert tickets? :D

Just admit you chose it to pose. It's a not real clever way around the rules.

No. Besides, rules apply differently to various posters on these boards, as I have noticed. Some individuals get punished for their errors, others don't.

There are certain behaviors that are in fact characteristic of losers, and whenever I see them on the forum here, I will point them out.

- withholding credit from an individual because of his race (loser behavior)

Why is that loser behavior? I honestly don't get it. Does the fact I don't understand make me a loser? Do you have a set definition for loser behavior, or do you just hand-pick said behaviors as they come along?

- exploding in obscenities when one is corrected for misspelling or some other minor mistake (loser behavior)

What is your reaction if corrected? I've seen you write incorrectly before.

[Sigh.] I recognize the futility of having this debate with a White guy who doesn't even like Wagner, but I'll do it anyway.

Really, so you like every artist considered great? Mark Twain was a great musician, and he thought, just as I do, that Wagner is awful.


Fur Elise is such a serene, hauntingly beautiful piece of music it nearly defies description.

It's a good piece of music. However, you cannot nail down why it is better than Human Nature. It's merely a matter of taste and throwing adjectives unless you can do better.


And if the fact that Beethoven was White isn't enough for you, he possessed a genius nearly unparalleled in the history of music.

Someone has told you that, you would not have figured it out by yourself.

Hello
I very seldom ever post here and after reading some of the posts since I have joined, I would appreciate very much if you would remove my name and info from this organization.
As a father and grandfather I do not want to risk the chance that my granddaughter might be looking over my shoulder while reading.
I respect all of you and your opinions.
Thank You
OZZY

You Better Run, You Better Do What You Can
Don't Wanna See No Blood, Don't Be A Macho Man
You Wanna Be Tough, Better Do What You Can
So Beat It, But You Wanna Be Bad


Just Beat It, Beat It, Beat It, Beat It
No One Wants To Be Defeated
Showin' How Funky Strong Is Your Fight
It Doesn't Matter Who's Wrong Or Right
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It

No. Besides, rules apply differently to various posters on these boards, as I have noticed. Some individuals get punished for their errors, others don't.

You joined after the rule had been made that new posters had to take regular names. Yours was borderline decision on my part. I figured, now being confirmed, that you were trying to demonstrate your cleverness in getting around the rules, and also demonstrating your brains, by choosing a foreign word few would know meant king. So, already you're the kind of person I don't like, the Internet poser. The alternative is that your name is King or Konig, in which case I'm wrong and it's perfectly fine.


Why is that loser behavior? I honestly don't get it. Does the fact I don't understand make me a loser? Do you have a set definition for loser behavior, or do you just hand-pick said behaviors as they come along?

I don't hand pick them, I point them out as they arise. The general rules are pretty easy to infer.


What is your reaction if corrected? I've seen you write incorrectly before.
I say thanks for the correction, make the correction, and move on. I've done that numerous times on here, and will no doubt do it again.

You joined after the rule had been made that new posters had to take regular names. Yours was borderline decision on my part. I figured, now being confirmed, that you were trying to demonstrate your cleverness

Really? How has this been confirmed? I certainly have not effected your now-confirmed view in any way, not least because I frankly do not care an iota what you think of my name. You are a man of great many things. Are you clairvoyant as well, Alex?

I don't hand pick them, I point them out as they arise. The general rules are pretty easy to infer.

In fact, the 'general rules' are pretty much all over the place.

Hello
I very seldom ever post here and after reading some of the posts since I have joined, I would appreciate very much if you would remove my name and info from this organization.
As a father and grandfather I do not want to risk the chance that my granddaughter might be looking over my shoulder while reading.
I respect all of you and your opinions.
Thank You
OZZY

You signed off on the no-gwerping policy when you signed up, so we will not delete your accounting.

What you can do is...never type vnnforum.com into your url again, and there is a very good chance this site will never pull up. I'm told.

Really? How has this been confirmed? I certainly have not effected your now-confirmed view in any way, not least because I frankly do not care an iota what you think of my name. You are a man of great many things. Are you clairvoyant as well, Alex?

Pretty darn close to it.

Getting touchy, that's pretty much the final nail in the coffin. You're an internet poser. It was about 80/20 in that direction, now I'd put it 95/5.


In fact, the 'general rules' are pretty much all over the place.

I don't see anyone who has trouble making them out.

You Better Run, You Better Do What You Can
Don't Wanna See No Blood, Don't Be A Macho Man
You Wanna Be Tough, Better Do What You Can
So Beat It, But You Wanna Be Bad


Just Beat It, Beat It, Beat It, Beat It
No One Wants To Be Defeated
Showin' How Funky Strong Is Your Fight
It Doesn't Matter Who's Wrong Or Right
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It

Damn Ozzy, you just got served. Cillian danced your ass under the table. I guess now it's on. DANCEOFF!!!!

Damn Ozzy, you just got served. Cillian danced your ass under the table. I guess now it's on. DANCEOFF!!!!

YouTube - wheelchair moonwalk , worlds first !!


TeeHee!!

http://www.michaeljacksonfan.com/guestbook/index.php?entry=0

You all do understand that I, your roving reporter, broke the story of Jackson's death right here on the Vanguard News Network's forum don't you? While TMZ merely quoted Joe Jackson as stating, 'he's not doing well,' I reported that he was dead. VNN had a world wide exclusive and only after I broke the story of his death did other networks begin confirming what I already knew. And some time later at that.

I will write your name on the board and see that you get full credit.

How did you know?

I will write your name on the board and see that you get full credit.

How did you know?

Thanks but no thanks.

The picture of them doing cpr on him as he was being wheeled into the ER coupled with his medical history of having lung disease filtered through my professional training and experience. In most cases if you're being brought to an ER and they're doing cpr on you in the field it's the rare case that will survive. Usually survival is accompanied by something like being under a frozen sheet of ice where the decreased temperature acts to slow body metabolism and cerebral damage.

Can I do the moon walk? Nope.

I can't drink milk and squirt it out my nose.
I can't fart the first 12 measures to "The Star Spangled Banner."
I can't do any of this important stuff, all of the three great skills above being of about equal importance.

Michael Jackson was a pathetic, twisted, self-mutilated freak.

He was a mediocre singer, whose voice, without electronic aid, would not have risen above off-pitch humming.

His dancing was embarrassingly childish, over-emotional, self-focused trash. It was so embarrassingly idiotic that it embarrassed other Negro performers.

For god's shitting sake--He admitted sleeping in the same bed with young boys, not in his family.

He should have been clubbed to death like a baby Harp Seal, when he was three.

Mike

For god's shitting sake--He admitted sleeping in the same bed with young boys, not in his family.



Yeeeaah, buuuuuuuutttttt.....Thriller was such an awesome video.

YouTube - Hear the truth America news: House holds moment of silence for Michael Jackson

YouTube - Hear the truth America news: House holds moment of silence for Michael Jackson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs0m2JcGdL4)The country is plummeting down the sewer but our elected officials make time to rise in tribute to a child molester.

Well he did not even have as Magic a Johnson as Magic Johnson. Sic Semper Fagus Niger.

The country is plummeting down the sewer but our elected officials make time to rise in tribute to a child molester.


Whadaya expect? This congress is of the generation who wanted to buy the world a Coke. (...although, Jackson was a Pepsi man himself, well they have no loyalty, ((even brand loyalty)) so it doesn't matter anyway)

The country is plummeting down the sewer but our elected officials make time to rise in tribute to a child molester.

A human mistake that Nature eliminated. Unfortunately our rulers wish to reduce us all to his ilk. Fortunately Nature will reduce them in the end, as She reduces all thats in Her way.

mazel tov!!!


oy vey, the schwartze was a fagala

Tough break for Farrah..... getting overshadowed like this.

Well that alone was enough to piss me off. Farah was cool, God bless her. I mean hell, you would not dare make a show like Charlies Angels with 3 hot smart dangerous White girls, I loved that show as a kid, it gave me a permanent hard on
Christ.Charlies Angels 09 would be a White girl dating a Black, an East Asian Hermorphodite and Queen Latifah

I mean hell, you would not dare make a show like Charlies Angels with 3 hot smart dangerous White girls, I loved that show as a kid, it gave me a permanent hard on



You strike me as gay, for the fact you know so much obscure gay lingo which you pepper in your posts frequently and the fact you try extra hard to say things that you perceive would sound hetro.

Awww...thats not very nice to say.

Have you seen my Childhood, Elizabeth?


YouTube - Michael Jackson - Childhood (Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVJscGa5vbc)

(bubbles the chimp makes an appearance in the video at 3:59)

Have you seen my 500 million dollars and my perfect hairless body?

Fuck you Michael Jackson, RITorment. You never knew how easy you had it.

Then there's his invention of moonwalking - as cool as smoking. Extremely difficult, extremely difficult to do, and he does it like it's easy.

YouTube - Endless Moonwalk / Billie Jean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpnPiuKxm6U)

How many of you can invent a persona, a dance move, a song worth listening to?

The only stuff legitimately said against him was whatever he did with/to children, and that was never really cleared up, was it? I would tend to side against the prosecutors and the press. It is in the nature of the slobocracy, as we enjoy in the 'Kwa, to destroy anything different, because the brainless, talentless mob isn't comfortable with anything not as tasteless, ugly and stupid as itself.

If respect is due, it is White to show respect - no matter the race of the individual in question.

One is surprised to read this on VNN!!

After all the joking is done, one must come to admit that Jackson was undeniably a talent.

One of his achievements that has not been getting alot of press (compared to 'Thriller' and 'Bad') is his flick 'Captain eo'. It is the only 3d flick I have ever liked! Helps that it was sci-fi too, as lots of White guys like Sci-fi! How many other negroes have ever gotten into sci-fi?!!? Maybe Will Smith like 15 years later in Independence Day or I, Negro.

Also another achievement was the innovation of the modern music video in 'Thriller'!!! Music videos are one of my favorite art forms, there are some videos that I like more then the songs themselves. Some recent music videos that I like that are Story-driven and have like move-quality sets (Gwen Stefanis 'Cool' and Evanescences 'Lithium') just flat out would not exist today if Jackson had never made 'Thriller'.

^ You've gotta be a chick.

How many of you can do anything 10% as well as Jackson could sing and dance?

It's not a rule here, but nigger ought to be reserved for genuine niggers, not as a generic epithet.

Three points about Jackson, from the WN POV:

1) He hated niggers. Called them spabooks. Considered them animals. He looked at his fellow blacks as jews look at gentiles.

2) He hated jews. No doubt from dealing with them, and seeing their complete lack of a soul combined with their profiteering and sharp business practices. He even included anti-jew lyrics in a song.

3) His father actually had a plan for the clan. Do you have that for your kids? Did your parents have that? No matter Michael grew to hate him, he still was made something of, purely by his father's will. That's respectable. Very much like Richard Williams, the coon's coon who correctly perceived an athletic opening for asphalt-poor niggers in the white tennis world. Worthy of respect.

Two good Michael Jackson songs:

ABC
YouTube - Jackson 5 - ABC (Full song) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOXG8wtxx_w&feature=player_embedded)

Human Nature '...why? why?...tell 'em it's just human nature...' - this is as unforgettable a melody/lyrical sequence as Beethoven's Fur Elise, and similar in tone and feel
YouTube - Michael Jackson Tribute- Human Nature (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ber5DrM6dG8)

Then there's his invention of moonwalking - as cool as smoking. Extremely difficult, extremely difficult to do, and he does it like it's easy.

YouTube - Endless Moonwalk / Billie Jean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpnPiuKxm6U)

How many of you can invent a persona, a dance move, a song worth listening to?

The only stuff legitimately said against him was whatever he did with/to children, and that was never really cleared up, was it? I would tend to side against the prosecutors and the press. It is in the nature of the slobocracy, as we enjoy in the 'Kwa, to destroy anything different, because the brainless, talentless mob isn't comfortable with anything not as tasteless, ugly and stupid as itself.

If respect is due, it is White to show respect - no matter the race of the individual in question.

Fuck that. He was a Jewish created icon.

BTW: He was also a Nigger

^ You've gotta be a chick.

Chicks like Fantasy (think Lord of the Rings), Dudes like Sci-fi... Captain eo is sci-fi and something lots of dudes like. Take a look at the recent Star Trek flick. Total sausage fest.

When it comes to music videos of course I like Gwen Stefani and Amy Lee... duh I am a White heterosexual male!!! It is not a chick thing to state that music videos as they exist today would not have happened with out 'Thriller'.

Here is a simple summation in mathematical terms.

Likes Sci-fi + likes chicks in videos = dude.

It is not a chick thing to state that music videos as they exist today would not have happened with out 'Thriller'.



I could live without that. Music videos have destroyed the music biz.

How many artists have talent and looks? Not many. Thats why music is in the toilet today.

The country is plummeting down the sewer but our elected officials make time to rise in tribute to a child molester.
I believe Jackson was railroaded with those charges. I do not believe he was an actual child molester. I see Jackson as someone not right in the head. Probably played monopoly and shit with five year old kids, but I doubt he did anything sexual with them. He had a very soft voice; easy to label him a child molester.

Can I do the moon walk? Nope.

I can't drink milk and squirt it out my nose.
I can't fart the first 12 measures to "The Star Spangled Banner."
I can't do any of this important stuff, all of the three great skills above being of about equal importance.

Michael Jackson was a pathetic, twisted, self-mutilated freak.

He was a mediocre singer, whose voice, without electronic aid, would not have risen above off-pitch humming.

His dancing was embarrassingly childish, over-emotional, self-focused trash. It was so embarrassingly idiotic that it embarrassed other Negro performers.

For god's shitting sake--He admitted sleeping in the same bed with young boys, not in his family.

He should have been clubbed to death like a baby Harp Seal, when he was three.

Mike

I agree with this assessment. Nigger couldn't sing worth a rat's ass as an adult (pretty good as a niglet, though); his moonwalk, while very impressive, was apparently derivative, and the rest of his moves basically consisted of spins, vulgar pelvic thrusts & muh dick-grabs: low-rent nigshit humped by tikkunin' music industry kikes. Yes, he rightfully hated his fellow coons and jews, but this was more than balanced out by his effeminate pedofaggotry and his all-around repulsive freakiness.

Another negative thing the bastard seems to have initiated (or at least popularized) is this choreography first, music dead last focus of modern pop: that stinking whore Madonna and every other boy band/pop tart covers up their lack of musical ability by having a troupe of fags on stage with them, lamely jiggin' away. No spontaneity whatsoever; nothing left to chance.

What's most unbelievable is that this nigger runt was actually compared to Beethoven in this very thread, and what's worse it wasn't some anti.

Not my cup of tea, but he was a talented entertainer, I'll give you that.

So what? What does it matter that he was a talented entertainer? Was he somehow less of an enemy because he could moonwalk?

Many Jews have been talented actors, comedians, and even musicians. Should that afford them special treatment when Whites come to power?

If you're trying to go somewhere with your defense of Michael Jackson other than the "credit where credit is due" bit (which I agree with) then you need to bottom-line it, Linder.

I can't drink milk and squirt it out my nose.
I can't fart the first 12 measures to "The Star Spangled Banner."


C'mon Mike, practice makes perfect! With enough determination, even you could become a great "fartiste". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_P%C3%A9tomane)

He was certainly good at what he did. Anyone who can maintain that kind of lifestyle in spite of being hundreds of millions in debt, and remain almost universally loved by the public, in spite of all the scandals, must be doing something right.

lots of tiny nations aren't able to accomplish this.

whatever he did, he got attention from everyone everywhere, as evidenced by this discussion (compare with the farah faucet thread).

You guys are so cruel.

I have a feeling Mike was a very gentle molester.

I intuit he molested with care, even sweetness.

if any of us (as hypothetical kids) had to be molested by someone, we would choose michael over any other molester. you know this is true.

if any of us (as hypothetical kids) had to be molested by someone, we would choose michael over any other molester. you know this is true.

I know that you had the chance to verify this and you weren't a kid when it happened either, and it wasn't against your free will... and you're the one who paid. Albeit I am guessing it wasn't your first intimate experience with plastic. :D

Not my cup of tea, but he was a talented entertainer, I'll give you that.

So what? What does it matter that he was a talented entertainer? Was he somehow less of an enemy because he could moonwalk?

Many Jews have been talented actors, comedians, and even musicians. Should that afford them special treatment when Whites come to power?

If you're trying to go somewhere with your defense of Michael Jackson other than the "credit where credit is due" bit (which I agree with) then you need to bottom-line it, Linder.

Honestly, there's nothing special in any of the people you mentioned, seriously, back in ye olde days I am sure most traveling troupes were about 59 times better.

Honestly, there's nothing special in any of the people you mentioned, seriously, back in ye olde days I am sure most traveling troupes were about 59 times better.

No doubt. Historically, being an actor/entertainer was not a high-status profession. It's interesting how that has changed in modern times.

You strike me as gay, for the fact you know so much obscure gay lingo which you pepper in your posts frequently and the fact you try extra hard to say things that you perceive would sound hetro.


You strike me as a troll.So Im gay because I am straight and because I mock obvious Negro fairies, and I mock the establishments absurd attempts to lionize this now hell dweelling freak, even to the point of pretending that those kids are really his with a straight face?

Try to do it. There's a difference between athletic coordination and a certain physical liquidity. I have one but not the other - no matter how hard I tried, I could not do it acceptably. But there are whites who can. Of course, most blacks can't either.

Really, Alex, did failing at the moonwalk truly have such a profound impact on your psyche? Was that the turning point in your life? Is that what helped you realize that you'd never be black, you'd never fit in, you'd always be just a stiff white square without any groove?

Bitter, dejected, exiled, you vowed vengeance on the hip and cool world of multiculturalism and set your sights on creating a no-holds-barred White Nationalist outlet, where you would be able to lick your wounds and attack those you had idolized and aspired to become?


You tell me in your own words, with no sputtering, what makes Fur Elise better than Human Nature.

Human Nature is two minutes too long. Everything after the two minute mark is shameless repetition aimed at making the song long enough for an album. Everything before the two minute mark consists of cheesy 80s synthesizers and Jackson's weak, affected, effeminate voice singing trite lyrics.

And to top it off, the song wasn't even written by Jackson. In fact, Jackson hardly wrote any of his songs. It's very telling, then, that the anti-racist, anti-White, pro-multicult "Black or White" should be found amongst the few songs he did write.


Fur Elise is a simple, sublime piece intended for the delicate ears of a delicate mistress (as opposed to the unrefined ears of an unrefined 21st century American). The fact that it was never even meant to be published shows with what ease Beethoven must have composed it. It was an afterthought for him, an escape from his wretched infirmity, an intimate, heartfelt little game played in the evening after having spent the entire day composing masterpieces such as the Emperor concerto.

One of Beethoven's afterthoughts is of greater worth than Jackson's entire repertoire.

You tell me, in your own words, with no spluttering, what makes http://www.tedmontgomery.com/tutorial/squares/squrblue.jpgdifferent to http://www.tedmontgomery.com/tutorial/squares/squrred.jpg.

You tell me in your own words, with no sputtering

Such asininity. You'd do well right alongside that other oriental sophist, Socrates, engaging in word games over the most fundamental expressions of our experience with no intention other than to subvert, all based upon the absurd premise that if the meaning of words can't be expressed in language, then the words are meaningless.

As absurd as this is the implied reductionism and mechanistic determinism, viz. instead of saying a is better than b, ones says that properties x,y and z of a are better than properties j,k and l of b, and that these properties "make" a better than b, which not only rests upon further unproved assumptions, e.g. that these abstractions can be analysed separately from the phenomenon in question, but is ultimately a pointless exercise, because it once more begs the question of what "makes" x,y, and z better than j,k and l, ad infinitum.

In other words, nothing makes Für Elise better than Human Nature. Für Elise is better than Human Nature. The only why here is why it is we use the word better? Because the phenomenon in question represents the meaning of the word better in the context of the musical art, just as a mark of 90% is said to be better than a mark of 60% because of a definition.

Für Elise is better than Human Nature

If you haven't understood that, then you haven't understood our language, and if you haven't understood that, then you are a racial alien.

Yes, Alex. Taste is subjective. That's precisely why a person's taste says so much about the person himself.

So, what does all of this say about you?

what makes Fur Elise better than Human Nature.

So, Alex, why don't you tell us what it means for some music to be better than some other music? I didn't think so.

Logomachy is the favourite game of Jews in subverting Aryan tradition.This is fundamentally no different to "ethical debates" started by filthy Jews, e.g. "what makes paedophilia wrong?". Well, as Jarl once put it, we don't debate that; we shoot people who try to debate it, just as we forced Socrates to drink Hemlock.

Monstrum in fronte monstrum in animo.

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http://latin.bestmoodle.net/media/socrateshead.jpg

Ugly does as ugly is.

Mark Twain was a great musician,

This is Alex Linder's taste. Alex Linder is a subhuman.

Human Nature is two minutes too long. Everything after the two minute mark is shameless repetition aimed at making the song long enough for an album. Everything before the two minute mark consists of cheesy 80s synthesizers and Jackson's weak, affected, effeminate voice singing trite lyrics.

Enter Alex.

Why is its being too long worse? Why are cheesy 80s synths worse? Why are trite lyrics worse? Why is a weak, affected, effeminate voice worse?

T.J.B.

Interesting data. We'll have to say Jackson was the best moonwalker ever, but merely a good performer of Human Nature, which is a very good song. Thanks for doing the research.

Better than Gene Kelly, who did it first?

Well that alone was enough to piss me off. Farah was cool, God bless her. I mean hell, you would not dare make a show like Charlies Angels with 3 hot smart dangerous White girls, I loved that show as a kid, it gave me a permanent hard on
Christ.Charlies Angels 09 would be a White girl dating a Black, an East Asian Hermorphodite and Queen Latifah

The Hollywood jews wanted to have a sheboon angel in the movie, but settled for a skank, a half-spic and a chink.

I never thought the best debates on VNN would center around someone that was neither black nor white, neither male nor female.


Comic relief before you guys get back to the deep stuff.

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Human Nature is two minutes too long. Everything after the two minute mark is shameless repetition aimed at making the song long enough for an album.





That perfectly describes nigger music in a nutshell,especially from the 1970s to today.

No surprises so far in what's come out of the jewtube in the coverage:

MTV ,VH1,BET reshowing every video it ever made( But haven't played in about ten years ),round the clock? Check.

Endlesss footage of brainwashed,greaving fans,in cities all over the world? Check.

Specials about it,on ABC,CBS,NBC, and cable channels such as E!? Check.

Propagandistic comments from phony reverend/race baiters( Jackson,Sharpton - wheh be fairiequeen/noi? )and many,many more? Check.

Endless propaganda about how he "crossed over" to Black and White audiences, and "loooooved" by those of all races? Check.

Endless bullshit about what a GREAT ARTIST it was? Check.

Made up "Controversy" over his death? Check.

And much,much,MUCH MORE to follow..........

When I saw this thread I thought I won't bother reading it because it's going to be bad enough trying to avoid the mainstreams (hand me my barf-bag) coverage. But, there were so many post's I just had to take a peek at what was going on.

Now I wish I hadn't.

As for the "did Michael Jackson invent the moonwalk" question, here's a youtube video:

YouTube - Origins of the Moonwalk

As some people already know, a dance
move called the moonwalk (a.k.a. backslide)
had been existed before it became the
"moonwalk". The video features the ancient
moonwalkers and other greats who possibly
influenced MJ's style of dancing.

The most well-known dancer as the "orignal
moonwalker" should be Bill Bailey who performed
it in the film Showtime At The Apollo (1955),
which was also featured in the movie Tap (1989).
But actually Bill Bailey, pupil of Bill Robinson,
performed the very same step as early as 1943
in the movie Cabin In The Sky, which you can
see here as well as the 1955 film.

If you're trying to go somewhere with your defense of Michael Jackson other than the "credit where credit is due" bit (which I agree with) then you need to bottom-line it, Linder.

As I said, my defense of him was limited to the points I made. I give the bottom line up front, usually in the first sentence.

I like to post things, from time to time, that I know will be against what most people think. It's a good measure of the overall brainpower level of the forum.

I like to post things, from time to time, that I know will be against what most people think. It's a good measure of the overall brainpower level of the forum.

In other words, he was just yanking y'alls' chain.

Really, Alex, did failing at the moonwalk truly have such a profound impact on your psyche? Was that the turning point in your life? Is that what helped you realize that you'd never be black, you'd never fit in, you'd always be just a stiff white square without any groove?


Funny stuff.

No, I can truly say, black is the last thing I would want to be. I'm more affletic than 99% of blacks, who are not nearly as good as the media them out. I'm not into dancing or clubbing, so no, you don't have me pegged. The psychology you describe exists, but it is 180 degrees from mine. No, I think just what I said - I think moonwalking is cool. Just like I think juggling and certain other things are cool, like dunking a basketball. If I think something's cool, I try to do it myself, to gauge how hard it is. It turns out moonwalking is not even Jackson's invention. But that's beside the point. He did it with matchless fluidity - I assume. If he said he got it from Astaire, I've never seen a clip of Astaire doing it, and I've seen Astaire's stuff, most of it.


Bitter, dejected, exiled, you vowed vengeance on the hip and cool world of multiculturalism and set your sights on creating a no-holds-barred White Nationalist outlet, where you would be able to lick your wounds and attack those you had idolized and aspired to become?


Itz like...you're inside my head! Man...get out!


Human Nature is two minutes too long. Everything after the two minute mark is shameless repetition aimed at making the song long enough for an album. Everything before the two minute mark consists of cheesy 80s synthesizers and Jackson's weak, affected, effeminate voice singing trite lyrics.

And to top it off, the song wasn't even written by Jackson. In fact, Jackson hardly wrote any of his songs. It's very telling, then, that the anti-racist, anti-White, pro-multicult "Black or White" should be found amongst the few songs he did write.

Fur Elise is a simple, sublime piece intended for the delicate ears of a delicate mistress (as opposed to the unrefined ears of an unrefined 21st century American). The fact that it was never even meant to be published shows with what ease Beethoven must have composed it. It was an afterthought for him, an escape from his wretched infirmity, an intimate, heartfelt little game played in the evening after having spent the entire day composing masterpieces such as the Emperor concerto.

One of Beethoven's afterthoughts is of greater worth than Jackson's entire repertoire.

A decent argument you make but not persuasive.

I see no major difference between them. I like them both, but only Jackson's pops into my head unbidden for 20 years.

As for shortness and repetition, they're exactly the same on that point. Beethoven's has seven notes - the rest is fill in. Those seven notes to me evoke what-could-have-been. If you hadn't read up on the background of the piece you would never think it was written for a girl. It would make more sense titled "Regrets" or "What Cannot Be."

There is no major quality difference between the two pieces, it is purely a matter of reputation.

In other words, he was just yanking y'alls' chain.

Incorrect. I believe every word I said. But I can put what I believe in any form, and the chain-yanking form felt about right. For this story. :)

Fur Elise and Human Nature are two entirely different pieces of music, so it's impossible to say one is better than the other, it's a matter of taste. I prefer the Beethoven piece since I'm a classical music fan. Michael Jackson's music is simple and easy, and will never aspire to anything higher.

Both of the pieces have a fluid movement to them that is easy to listen to.

...It turns out moonwalking is not even Jackson's invention...Jackson never invented anything. Niggers tend to discover things

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/79735-4/Treadmill_gangsta.gif

YouTube - Michael Jackson is Dead

How many of you can do anything 10% as well as Jackson could sing and dance?

It's not a rule here, but nigger ought to be reserved for genuine niggers, not as a generic epithet.

Three points about Jackson, from the WN POV:

1) He hated niggers. Called them spabooks. Considered them animals. He looked at his fellow blacks as jews look at gentiles.

2) He hated jews. No doubt from dealing with them, and seeing their complete lack of a soul combined with their profiteering and sharp business practices. He even included anti-jew lyrics in a song.

3) His father actually had a plan for the clan. Do you have that for your kids? Did your parents have that? No matter Michael grew to hate him, he still was made something of, purely by his father's will. That's respectable. Very much like Richard Williams, the coon's coon who correctly perceived an athletic opening for asphalt-poor niggers in the white tennis world. Worthy of respect.

Then there's his invention of moonwalking - as cool as smoking. Extremely difficult, extremely difficult to do, and he does it like it's easy.

How many of you can invent a persona, a dance move, a song worth listening to?

The only stuff legitimately said against him was whatever he did with/to children, and that was never really cleared up, was it? I would tend to side against the prosecutors and the press. It is in the nature of the slobocracy, as we enjoy in the 'Kwa, to destroy anything different, because the brainless, talentless mob isn't comfortable with anything not as tasteless, ugly and stupid as itself.

If respect is due, it is White to show respect - no matter the race of the individual in question.

Bizarre.

First, Michael Jackson did not invent the moonwalk. A French jew, Marcel Marceau, is credited with that "invention".

"No michael jackson did not invent the moonwalk. the moonwalk was invented by Marcel Marceau, a [jewish] mime from France. .... And no the moonwalk is not another black invention."

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080209123018AAoxOKR

So White Man, you are now commanded to worship the black man, Michael Jackson, for mimicking a French jew! Ha!

Second, White vs. black achievements: Walking on the moon and moonwalking. Just several decades ago, it was a natural White thing to acknowledge that sending White men to the moon and actually walking there was considered as one of White Man's highest achievements. Now, Whites on VNN are being propagandized to consider that moonwalking is one of the greatest achievements of someone of the black race. And, White Man, if you can't moonwalk like MJ you ain't shit here at VNN, regardless of whether you have physical prowess far beyond doing a couple backward moonwalking steps. Bizarre.

Third, old man Jackson may have had a plan for his clan but let's consider MJ's plan for his semi-White chilrins: he left them with over $400 million of his debt. That's some real remarkable plan deserving of every VNNers' respect, heh. That's the ticket, White Man: become a Demerol/narcotic junkie and die from it, while leaving your chilrins over $400 million in debt! What could be a more honorable legacy than that? Hey, let's give respect where respct is due.

Fourth, hey, how's about MJ's fathering style? C'mon White Man, do the respectable thing and dangle your newborn son over a balcony railing four stories above a concrete sidewalk. Just do it! And hey, isn't it the respectable thing to pay off the families of many children who were molested by the Jackson freak, to the tune of roughly $20 million per, just to buy their silence? Ya' gotta admit, payoffs in those amounts are respectable, no?

Oh yeah, there's tons of things that White VNNers should respect MJ for. Tons.

There is no major quality difference between the two pieces, it is purely a matter of reputation.

You are a peasant.

I see no major difference between them.

A retarded peasant.

I like them both

Clearly, for Alex, the word quality is nothing more than a synonym what Alex likes.

So much for the quality of Alex.

Substitute "little girls" for "Human Nature", "moral" for "quality", "morality" for "reputation" and you'll have the analog of how a Kike kiddy diddler sees our quaint little concepts of right and wrong.

In other words, nothing makes Für Elise better than Human Nature.


No, what makes FE 'better' is reputation. That's my point here. Not one person in 1,000 can make reliable quality judgments.

Not just theory, fact.

One of our newspaper issues, I wrote most of the copy. I posted the articles on here. The ones under my name drew great praise. The one I wrote under the female pseudonym drew much criticism. I made no attempt to disguise the 'voice,' wrote in the same default tone and style. Most people, WN or otherwise, have opinions that are worth nothing. Your opinion is not worth nothing, Sandor, but it is not worth as much as you think.

Fur Elise is a good piece of music, I like it. I think its ability to evoke a sense of lingering loss, what-might-have-been, in a few short notes is impressive. But it's not unique. Many artists can achieve this with their voice. I think Human Nature, which was written by whites I guess, rather than Jackson, achieves a similar effect. Now the WN yardbirds squawk, but the fact is their judgment, in 99% of the cases is worth next to nothing. This is why I tell people to speculate with money. See if what you think survives the punch you get if you're wrong. 95% of you will discover you're full of shit. If Beethoven were sitting right here, he would say exactly what I'm saying, which is that Human Nature is a very nice piece of work, and in a soft way it pulls emotional strings not too far from the ones he plucked in Fur Elise.

If you had never head FE or HN and HN was attributed to Beethoven and FE to Michael Jackson, 100% of you would be saying exactly the opposite of what you're saying now. Not 1% of you realizes this.


If you haven't understood that, then you haven't understood our language, and if you haven't understood that, then you are a racial alien.

Yes, Alex. Taste is subjective. That's precisely why a person's taste says so much about the person himself.

So, what does all of this say about you?

It says that I, like most people, like both songs. But that I, unlike most people, recognize they are roughly the same quality.


So, Alex, why don't you tell us what it means for some music to be better than some other music? I didn't think so.

There are a number of ways music might be better than other music. It might have a superior melody. It might be cleverer. It might be more evocative. It might be more powerful, spark more fresh associations. One way I judge songs' worth is by staying power. I know most of the music of the last fifty years. I sing to myself all the time. "Human Nature" has never left my head since I heard it. That's a measure of the artist's artfulness.


Logomachy is the favourite game of Jews in subverting Aryan tradition.This is fundamentally no different to "ethical debates" started by filthy Jews, e.g. "what makes paedophilia wrong?". Well, as Jarl once put it, we don't debate that; we shoot people who try to debate it, just as we forced Socrates to drink Hemlock.

In other words, you, with your giant brain and your feline distemper, can't put into words why Fur Elise is better than Human Nature. Which is my point. They're both good songs. There's not that much difference between them any way you look at it. So I win. And now I'm going to celebrate my victory with a moonwalk. You just go on enjoying being you, Sandor!

When I saw this thread I thought I won't bother reading it because it's going to be bad enough trying to avoid the mainstreams (hand me my barf-bag) coverage. But, there were so many post's I just had to take a peek at what was going on.

Now I wish I hadn't.

As for the "did Michael Jackson invent the moonwalk" question, here's a youtube video:


He also mastered the air fuck/groin grab. On TV they were showing some of his performances, and it looked like he was having sex with an invisible person, or some sort of Tourette's type obsessive compulsive disorder in which he must always thrust his pelvis forward uncontrollably. T.N.B.

YouTube - Family Guy Michael Jackson Dancing (Extremly Funny)

This is Alex Linder's taste. Alex Linder is a subhuman.

If Twain had come from Weimar, Germany, rather than Hannibal, Missouri, why, you'd be using him as an example of cultural heights to which Americans could never ascend.

Twain was a master musician, and correctly recognized the inferiority of the noise produced by Dick Wagner.

Better than Gene Kelly, who did it first?

I don't know. I've never seen Kelly or Astaire or any of the others purported to have done the move before Jackson. Find a clip and if they're better I'll admit it.

How about this... MJ had a personal doctor just to keep an eye on him. Man, you have to have some serious money to afford to hire a doctor just to follow you around full time. Actually, the tour company hired the doctor to keep an eye on his health, so they actually paid for it.

Possible case of "affirmative action" having a blow-back effect.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/06/0626_conrad_murray_ap060708045483.jpg
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/26/michael-jacksons-doctor/

The most well-known dancer as the "orignal
moonwalker" should be Bill Bailey who performed
it in the film Showtime At The Apollo (1955),
which was also featured in the movie Tap (1989).
But actually Bill Bailey, pupil of Bill Robinson,
performed the very same step as early as 1943
in the movie Cabin In The Sky, which you can
see here as well as the 1955 film.[/I]

Good find. I don't think any of the dancers in the clip approach Jackson's fluidity.

Fur Elise and Human Nature are two entirely different pieces of music,

Yes, they are entirely different.

so it's impossible to say one is better than the other,

Look, either the word better is meaningful or it isn't, and if it is, I don't see why it should at all be impossible to actually use it or to determine the truth values of some sentence which uses it as a predicate.

I mean, nobody is going to say that because giving your life to save a friend and diddling little boys like Michael Jackson did are completely different actions that it's impossible to say that one is more moral than the other, in the context of, say, the traditional use of the word moral.

Quite frankly, all I see here is confusion over, or confused use of, a word.

I prefer the Beethoven piece since I'm a classical music fan.

No, you prefer Beethoven's music because you are an Aryan.

it's a matter of taste.

Yes, of course it's a matter of taste. But to speak of quality is to use an Aryan word, and insofar as it pertains to music, this word has been used by the persons who developed it in this sense to refer to the likes of Beethoven, not Michael Jackson.

If you want to use "better" to refer simply to subjective likes and dislikes despite its objective historical meaning, then so be it. Go ahead.

If you want to claim that "better" denotes some wishy washy concept which is at once subjective and objective to the point of absurdity, then you are simply kidding yourself by playing around with language.

As for shortness and repetition, they're exactly the same on that point. Beethoven's has seven notes - the rest is fill in.

You should consider the musical form of a piece before you start saying that its contents are "fill in". Fur Elise is a rondo, therefore it is entitled to repetition. It is also a bagatelle, therefore it is entitled to brevity.

And even then, the two pieces in question are hardly "exactly the same" on any point, let alone the above-mentioned point.

Human Nature, though it consists of one and the same loop, is still at least 20 seconds longer than Fur Elise (depending on the latter's interpretation), yet Fur Elise manages to take us from a delightful serenity to a crescendoing agitation culminating in a climax before we are once again brought back to the calm waters of tranquil romance, and it does so with such grace! The repetition in Fur Elise doesn't offend or annoy, but rather flows. And flow it should, because it wasn't placed there for the sake of extending the piece (which wasn't intended for the public and was published almost 40 years after Beethoven's death), but for the sake of harmony.

If you hadn't read up on the background of the piece you would never think it was written for a girl.

I've yet to meet a man named "Elise".


If you had never head FE or HN and HN was attributed to Beethoven and FE to Michael Jackson, 100% of you would be saying exactly the opposite of what you're saying now. Not 1% of you realizes this.


There's the rub. Michael Jackson--or any negro for that matter--would never compose Fur Elise or something similar to Fur Elise.

And no, I'm not biased or bitter or blinkered or anything of the sort. I despise jews, but I'll be the first to admit that some of Mendelssohn's pieces are beautiful, along with a few by Offenbach, Wieniawski and a handful of other jews.

Fur Elise and Human Nature are two entirely different pieces of music, so it's impossible to say one is better than the other, it's a matter of taste. I prefer the Beethoven piece since I'm a classical music fan. Michael Jackson's music is simple and easy, and will never aspire to anything higher.

Both of the pieces have a fluid movement to them that is easy to listen to.

"Classical" and "pop" are just words, they have no inherent meaning. Beethoven's piece is no more complex than Human Nature. You guys are simply conditioned to regard things by reputation. You've gotten over this in race, but not in the rest of life. The same analytical tools that break down race work on every other subject too.

You are a peasant. A retarded peasant.

Yeah, well you're a pheasant. A pheasant who thinks he's a peacock.


Clearly, for Alex, the word quality is nothing more than a synonym what Alex likes.

Maybe so, but it's the same for you. And I defended my taste with better explanations than you could produce. I needn't call you a peasant or subhuman to make my case.

No, what makes FE 'better' is reputation. That's my point here. Not one person in 1,000 can make reliable quality judgments.

Clearly your brain is too small to have even understood a single word I wrote.

Or you wouldn't respond with a point which is already refuted in my analysis.


There are a number of ways music might be better than other music. It might have a superior melody. It might be cleverer. It might be more evocative. It might be more powerful, spark more fresh associations.

With that you haven't aid anything.

What is a "superior melody"? Why is music with a "superior melody" better?

What is "cleverer" music? Why is "cleverer" music better?

etc.


One way I judge songs' worth is by staying power. I know most of the music of the last fifty years. I sing to myself all the time. "Human Nature" has never left my head since I heard it. That's a measure of the artist's artfulness.

No, it's a measure of its effect upon you. And that in itself is not a judgment of the music, but a judgment of you.

In other words, you, with your giant brain and your feline distemper, can't put into words why Fur Elise is better than Human Nature.

Which is completely irrelevant.

You can't put into words why a red square isn't a blue square.

So there.

Which is my point.

No it isn't. Your point is the fallacious argument

You can't "put into words" why x is y, therefore x isn't y.

That's a load of tosh.

There's not that much difference between them any way you look at it.

White is black.

So I win.

The only thing you've won is a Darwin Award.

June 26, 2009


Farewell King of Pop

" It's fascinating to follow the coverage of Michael Jackson's death, but especially the lavish tributes to his "genius" and general wonderfulness. He was, in fact, a monster, and an apt reflection of America's extreme collective cultural confusion. He was a distillation of the lies America tells itself. He was infantile, grandiose, horrifying, and probably dangerous. His "accomplishments" as a grown man amounted to little more than a half dozen popular songs. The arc of his life may have been tragic, but it was a tragedy of his own making. His sudden end brings to mind a remark Gore Vidal made upon hearing about the death of Truman Capote: "Good career move." "
http://www.kunstler.com/index.html




http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq162/maxlulz/1245972009779.jpg

Really, so you like every artist considered great?

Oh, yeah. I just LOVE Picasso. :rolleyes:



Mark Twain was a great musician . . .

"Someone has told you that, you would not have figured it out by yourself." Sound familiar?



It's a good piece of music. However, you cannot nail down why it is better than Human Nature. It's merely a matter of taste . . .

Do you feel the same way about art? Was Jackson Pollock as good a painter as Rembrandt?



Someone has told you that, you would not have figured it out by yourself.

Gee, I really appreciate your giving me the benefit of the doubt. I've listened to Beethoven's 9th about a hundred times over the past decade, and I've seen it performed live. I think I figured out that Beethoven was a genius on my own, thanks.

Good find. I don't think any of the dancers in the clip approach Jackson's fluidity.

I thought the guy in the chefs outfit dancing on the table at the 2:47 mark was very fluid.

What do you think of David Bernal's fluidity compared to Michael Jackson's then?

YouTube - David Bernal (Elsewhere) Interview/Special

Yeah, well you're a pheasant.

He has to respond to statements of fact with statements of absurdities.

A pheasant who thinks he's a peacock.

And, no, even as figurative language, it isn't clever.

I hate to break this to you.

You're not clever. Your attempted jibes and dicta aren't clever.

And I defended my taste with better explanations than you could produce.

Again, we see the confusion over "taste" and "quality" which your brain is just too small to get past.

"Defending taste". I haven't attempted, would never attempt, anything so absurd. I wouldn't defend it any more than I'd defend a leaf for being green.

I have explained why the one is better than the other, i.e. why the word better is used of one and not the other, since the question has no other sense which is meaningful.

And you haven't "explained" anything. And you never could. Because what you understand by the endeavour of "explanation" is a load of nonsense from start to finish.


I needn't call you a peasant or subhuman to make my case.

It's a statement of fact, Alex. It's what peasant means.

You should consider the musical form of a piece before you start saying that its contents are "fill in". Fur Elise is a rondo, therefore it is entitled to repetition. It is also a bagatelle, therefore it is entitled to brevity.

And even then, the two pieces in question are hardly "exactly the same" on any point, let alone the above-mentioned point.

They're similar. That's my point. One is called classical, one is called pop, but they're similar in form and appeal.


Human Nature, though it consists of one and the same loop, is still at least 20 seconds longer than Fur Elise (depending on the latter's interpretation), yet Fur Elise manages to take us from a delightful serenity to a crescendoing agitation culminating in a climax before we are once again brought back to the calm waters of tranquil romance, and it does so with such grace! The repetition in Fur Elise doesn't offend or annoy, but rather flows.

How many ears do you have? Beets shot his wad in seven notes. The piece should have ended at 1:20. The shit in the middle is like jamming Caesar salad in a bowl of Fruit Loops. The last thing it does is flow. It's a relief when he gets back to the theme; an interruption and irritation when he departs.


I've yet to meet a man named "Elise".

The point is that if you didn't know the title and background of the piece going in, you would never guess that piece was intended romantically. It is nostalgic sadness and regret the piece evokes, not romance.


There's the rub. Michael Jackson--or any negro for that matter--would never compose Fur Elise or something similar to Fur Elise.


I wouldn't be so sure about that. Blacks can sing and dance and evoke emotion.


And no, I'm not biased or bitter or blinkered or anything of the sort. I despise jews, but I'll be the first to admit that some of Mendelssohn's pieces are beautiful, along with a few by Offenbach, Wieniawski and a handful of other jews.

You're likelier to find real emotion and quality from black musicians than from jews. Overrated jew shit called classic is everywhere. Mahler is quintessential jewshit called classical.

Twain was a master musician, and correctly recognized the inferiority of the noise produced by Dick Wagner.

Did Twain ever write anything this good?

YouTube - Apocalypse Now..Ride Of The Valkyries

I reckon I'm just going to put Rabbi Linderstein on ignore. And anyone else with a two-figure IQ who thinks he can have a meaningful discussion with me.

Sorry Alex Linder is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her.

Isn't that dandy.

With that you haven't aid anything.

What is a "superior melody"? Why is music with a "superior melody" better?

What is "cleverer" music? Why is "cleverer" music better?


Depends how you want to define it. General opinion is never too far wrong.


No, it's a measure of its effect upon you. And that in itself is not a judgment of the music, but a judgment of you.


It might be one or the other or both.

Do you know anything about music, or are you just running your mouth? I have gotten into a competitive choir, sung with the Chicago Symphony, and played piano for a number of years. I've also written songs, MP3 of which I will one day post on here.


Which is completely irrelevant.

You can't put into words why a red square isn't a blue square.

So there.


Sure I can. They reflect light differently, producing distinct impressions in human retinas and brains, which differences are denoted by the terms blue and red. These colors also have different feel-meanings, as blue is inherently cool and conservative whereas red is energetic and radical, hence its use in VNNF's color scheme.


No it isn't. Your point is the fallacious argument

You can't "put into words" why x is y, therefore x isn't y.

That's a load of tosh.


The white man who wrote Human Nature is not that different from Beethoven writing Fur Elise. It merely seems that way because of reputation. You have the attitude of an amateur whose words can't be touched because they spring from GENIUS. Writing music is a craft. Beethoven and the guy who wrote Human Nature are both good at devising melodies.

Did Twain ever write anything this good?

YouTube - Apocalypse Now..Ride Of The Valkyries (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz3Cc7wlfkI)

See, we've been over this. I think Ride of the Valkyries is awful. It is ponderous as hell, like all Dick's efforts. I am not saying that to be contrary or provocative, I truly think Ride of the Valkries is awful. Wagner is simply a lousy composer. Many, many, many people think that way. It is a perfectly valid opinion.

"Classical" and "pop" are just words, they have no inherent meaning. Beethoven's piece is no more complex than Human Nature. You guys are simply conditioned to regard things by reputation. You've gotten over this in race, but not in the rest of life. The same analytical tools that break down race work on every other subject too.

That's not entirely true. I liked classical music long before I knew anything about what it meant as far as it's snobbery towards other forms of music. That goes for any type of music.

I like what sounds good to me, and that's not influenced by it's reputation, or the race of the person performing it.


By the way, Janet Jackson has now arrived at the Michael Jackson's home, she's expected to live.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090627/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson

"Someone has told you that, you would not have figured it out by yourself." Sound familiar?

I have studied Twain, Mencken and P.J. O'Rourke carefully to learn how they produce their effects. To a good degree I know how to do what they do inherently (the humor, certainly not the storytelling of Twain, which I in no way can approach or would even try), and I have my own twists, but it is without a doubt that there are certain techniques and laws that pertain to comedic writing, and that Twain is a master of these, as is Menken, as was O'Rourke, would not be doubted by any comedy writer. The proof that I'm not relying on popular wisdom is that I can produce the same effects myself because I know how they are generated.


Do you feel the same way about art? Was Jackson Pollock as good a painter as Rembrandt?

No. I don't consider Pollock a painter at all, he's just a WASP front for a jewish curator or gallery owner. Pollock was used by jews to push idea-'art' or non-representation art as one front in their cross-cultural campaign to destroy Normal White America and its tastes.


Gee, I really appreciate your giving me the benefit of the doubt. I've listened to Beethoven's 9th about a hundred times over the past decade, and I've seen it performed live. I think I figured out that Beethoven was a genius on my own, thanks.

You like Beethoven is not all the same thing as understand what makes him a genius, if indeed he is a genius. I like him too, but I don't see what's radically different or better about him than many other artists. In my opinion, Handel's Messiah is superior to anything Beethoven ever composed.

Sure I can. They reflect light differently, producing distinct impressions in human retinas and brains, which differences are denoted by the terms blue and red.

As I said, you can't put into words why a red square isn't a blue square.

If you're too stupid to understand the problem posed, then please don't even attempt to solve it. You haven't said one word about why a red square isn't a blue square. Different reflection of light presupposes difference. Different impressions on the retina presupposes difference. I'm not even going to address how these reductionist and mechanist word games fail to actually touch upon the question itself, which concerns the actual phenomena "red square" and "blue square", not related concepts like "reflection of light" and "retinal impressions". As for conflating the words "brain" and "mind", well, what can one expect from a halfwit.

"They produce different sound waves in the air, resulting in vibrations in the human ear, which trigger neuronal impulses to the brain, which lead to distinct impressions in the human mind, which are called better and worse."

Logically identical to your "explanation". Nada. Nothing. It tells one absolutely nothing about the phenomena themselves or why one phenomenon isn't identical the other phenomenon.

Thanks for proving my point. That you haven't a clue what is actually going on here.

These colors also have different feel-meanings, as blue is inherently cool and conservative whereas red is energetic and radical, hence its use in VNNF's color scheme.

You're talking of something else than red or blue. You're talking about differences in emotional responses in the subject, which follow from the fact that red isn't blue. Genius. What a fucking circular brain function you have.

I'm done here. Just keep blathering your "scientific materialist" blather like the retard you are.