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blueskies
September 16th, 2004, 07:41 PM
by George

Eric Thomson trotted out the tired old bromide that our old native European religions were superior to Christianity and the other two Abrahamic religions because the old European folk religions were tolerant of other religions, no doubt due to their polytheistic theology. The argument made is that this commendable tolerance inhibited vicious internecine bloodshed. The erudite Dr. Oliver, a fellow I respect every bit as much as I do Eric, made the same point repeatedly, except that he made the old Persian state religion of Zoroastrianism ground zero of the scourge of intolerant monotheism, positing that the old Persian monotheists spawned the Abrahamic religions.

Ironically, the astute Dr. Oliver also pointed out the Marxists' shifty historical two step, wherein the attributes of a degenerate and decaying Roman empire, such as tolerance of alien religions, inundation of Italian soil by the mangiest rabble from the farthest reaches of the empire, "liberated" Roman wives who refused to birth future generations, control of the government by Jewish imperial "secretaries", etc. were disingenuously presented as being characteristic of the early, vigorous Roman Republic that had ironically created the very wealth and infrastructure that made the hedonistic profligacy of their irresponsible successors possible. As a great classical historian whom the good Dr. Oliver quoted had written in one of his magisterial turn of the century tomes (I believe the classicist's name was Dr. Nielsen): "When one speaks of Rome, one must specify whether it is the Rome of 200 BC or the Rome of 200 AD." The same applies to the United States (the United States of Andrew Jackson vs. the United States of the post SWTKWP Pax Judaica).

If one looks at the great civilizations of the world, one notes that EVERY ONE OF THEM, while on the path to greatness and before it became decadent, had a state religion that brutally suppressed ALL other religions. Religious tolerance, like racial tolerance, tolerance for sexual deviants and barren career twats, and all other JudeoMarxist tolerances, is the signature of either an uncivilized populace or a dying civilization. I say this as a free thinking agnostic. Unlike the antisocial Marxist "humanists" I am a true humanist, that is, a lover of Mankind, most strongly those of my blood. As silly as I find a belief in bearded toga wearing sky thunderers (invariably sitting on remote mountain tops or heavenly thrones somewhere whence they rain down thunderbolts on mischievous mortals) to be, history shows that such belief systems, so long as they are not alien beliefs imposed from without, but rather are organically created and thus representative of the people's race soul, are absolutely essential to society. Thus any opposition to them is an act of treason. I am not of course arguing the merits of Christianity, a dangerous and alien religion, but for the necessity of a native and very intolerant state religion.

In my opinion, this country was doomed from the beginning. Even though, as some have pointed out, the constitution does not require the erection of the metaphorical wall separating church and state, the amendment forbidding the establishment of a state religion as well as the entire tenor of the writings of the founders make clear that such a separation was their intent. If you have a healthy, sane, society with a religion grounded rationally in their collective race soul, why the @#$%&^?! do you need to separate church and state? Such a separation is an admission that you have a faulty society. In the case of the founding of this country, the problem was not so much a witch's brew of "nonwestern" religions like Judaism, Hinduism, Islam and Buddhism, but rather a Christian Tower of Babel comprising dozens of incompatible Christian denominations -- hence the need for the constitutional band aid.

Abzug Hoffman
September 19th, 2004, 08:49 PM
In my opinion, this country was doomed from the beginning. Even though, as some have pointed out, the constitution does not require the erection of the metaphorical wall separating church and state, the amendment forbidding the establishment of a state religion as well as the entire tenor of the writings of the founders make clear that such a separation was their intent. If you have a healthy, sane, society with a religion grounded rationally in their collective race soul, why the @#$%&^?! do you need to separate church and state? Such a separation is an admission that you have a faulty society. In the case of the founding of this country, the problem was not so much a witch's brew of "nonwestern" religions like Judaism, Hinduism, Islam and Buddhism, but rather a Christian Tower of Babel comprising dozens of incompatible Christian denominations -- hence the need for the constitutional band aid.

"Regardless of race, creed, or color" these six little words doomed America to her fate.

We should have had a Christian King in America and whites only and I'm sure it would have gone much better.

FranzJoseph
September 19th, 2004, 09:58 PM
If one looks at the great civilizations of the world, one notes that EVERY ONE OF THEM, while on the path to greatness and before it became decadent, had a state religion that brutally suppressed ALL other religions.

Look a bit closer and you'll find that EVERY ONE OF THEM was set up along the exact same lines as sectarian Christianity.

"State religions" worked one way for society's top & one way for the bottom.

Seneca thought the idea of "hell" was idiotic among the Patrician class but fine to keep the masses in their place. In his Roman world the "religions" of the upper classes worked a whole lot like masonry does now. The plebes and riff-raff were free to believe in Jove's thunderbolts if they so desired.

Nothing has really changed. Wealthy and well-connected Skull & Bonesmen in our society, if they were honest, would say things openly like Seneca and be done with it.

Eric Thomson, like lots of people, look at the European past as an Arcadia and they include the old gods for good measure. What, nostalgia is against the law now too?

Bragi
September 19th, 2004, 10:46 PM
Whites have far too high a threshold of tolerance for the things that are working to destroy them. These mother******* need to learn to tolerate white superiority, and how!
[Edited- HELLO!!! MF is not an appropriate word for the Civil Forum!!]

Alex Linder
September 20th, 2004, 06:18 AM
Whites have far too high a threshold of tolerance for the things that are working to destroy them. These motherfuckers need to learn to tolerate white superiority, and how!

What about separatism vs supremacism? Why should blacks want to separate from us, given the goodies we unwillingly provide them? Would we want to live separate from them if they were superior to us? No, like them, we'd want to live among them in clumps, so we could benefit both ways. Nobody doubts whites are superior to blacks, and it's foolish to pretend otherwise. Just a bunch of jewing with words to impress the soccer moms, which it won't in any case, will just make us look weak. If blacks aren't ugly stupid violent -- INFERIOR -- what are we so worried about? You can't change reality by changing words, although jews give it a good run. The loathsomeness of mass blacks to the average white is one of our strongest weapons, no need to pretend there's no aesthetic factor in our desire to protect ourselves from these land sharks. Of course we think we're better than they are. Nobody will believe it if we say we don't, because they don't believe it themselves. It is tacitly understood by all races that Whites are superior to blacks.

Herman van Houten
September 20th, 2004, 07:26 AM
If one looks at the great civilizations of the world, one notes that EVERY ONE OF THEM, while on the path to greatness and before it became decadent, had a state religion that brutally suppressed ALL other religions.

The USA, the Roman Empire, the Third Reich, the British Empire - all of them were tolerant to other religions, and certainly not less tolerant than the minor nations.

Negroes are inferior, but so are rabid dogs but I still don't want to live with them.
The negro species has to live seperate from the Aryan. We don't want to rule the negroes. That is something the jews may try to do.

Axehandle
September 22nd, 2004, 04:47 PM
Semitic religions should be banished. Dynamite the mosques and synogogues (with the people in them) and convert the churches to pagan temples.

No more jew or jew inspired religions.

Thats what I would do...

[Edited-NO flaming]

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 22nd, 2004, 05:05 PM
always a pleasure to read RPO.

he notes correctly that intolerance is the standard for growing national movements, and tolerance the requirement for late imperial decadence. yggdrasil explained this well in an essay, cant recall which one. the empire NEEDS tolerance to keep its different parts working smoothly. jews always infest empires, and act as administrators, moneychangers, and slave traders.

these things are well known even by non-racist folks as some of you have noted. what the individual needs to appreciate, is that his own personal welfare and the welfare of his family and descendants, is bound up inextricably with tribe, and in the US we have a tribe and we call it the WHITE RACE. if we let our tribe get ousted beat out displaced and generally stepped upon by other tribes that have outmaneouvered us by hook or by crook, sooner or later those penalties will come home to roost on a family member or oneself. there is NO EXIT but victory, and at present, no victory but through the cordon sanitare erected around us, hemming us in, and emasculating and delegitimizing our tribe, by the jew.

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 22nd, 2004, 05:09 PM
oh, what to do about religion, I forgot to mention. synthesis of Christianity and paganism and the scientific/materialist/atheist mentality. that is happening, watch it progress inevitably among our people. we have far less religious division among ourselves than we think. deep down people want to pray, and when they do it is to an old White man who may remind one of a deceased father or grandparent or some ancestor of note, with a big White beard who will help us stomp the bad guys if we rise to the occasion. We dont know if he's there or not but we like to pretend he is and like Schwartzeneggar playing Conan, pray for revenge!

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 22nd, 2004, 05:12 PM
we are "materialist" enough to understand that what we need to "intolerate" is jews and non-Whites and not let any of their hocus pocus stop us from sending them on their merry way outside our borders. outside our borders I would welcome to worship whatever they like. inside our borders it matters little what "faith" they profess, it is a matter of tribe vs tribe and that is a far more obvious and tangible and ascertainable criterion than ideas.

blueskies
November 1st, 2004, 12:48 PM
CHRISTIANITY, BOLSHEVISM, AND THE ARYAN CONCEPT OF HEREDITY

"The coming of Christianity plunged classical philosophy into centuries of near-oblivion and clashed with the established and ancient European belief in the inequality of men. Spreading first among the slaves and lowest classes of the Roman empire, Christianity came to teach that all men were equal in the eyes of a universal Creator God, an idea that was totally alien to older European thought which had recognized a hierarchy of competence among men and even among the gods. Opposing the traditions of classical philosophy and scientific enquiry, Christianity introduced the concept of a single, omnipotent "God of History" who controlled all the phenomena of the universe with men and women being creations of that God...by Vic Martel