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From: "James M. Atkinson" <jm..._at_tscm.com>
Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {3099} Re: {3095} Electronic Harrasement
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Which article presents scientific proof that=20
someone is beaming messages and voices into your head?
-jma
At 11:57 PM 12/20/2008, TedMc wrote:
>Here are the following sources.
>"
>AH Frey "Auditory Systems Response to Radio Frequency Energy"
>
>James Lin "Microwave Auditory Effects and Applications"
>
>Don Justesen "Microwaves and Behavior"
>
>N.W. King "The Effects of Low Level Microwave Irradiation Upon
>Reflexive, Operant,, and Discriminative Behaviors of the Rat"
>
>Guy Author, C.. Chou, James Lin, D. Christenson "Microwaved Induced
>Acoustic Effects in Mammilian Auditory Systems"
>
>Joseph Sharp "Generation of Acoustic Signals by Pulsed Microwave
>Energy"
>
>Robert O Becker "The body Electric"
>
>Ronald Pethig "Dielectrric and Electronic Properties of Biological
>Materials"
>
>Bjorn Nordenstrom "Biologically Closed Electric Circuits"
>
>
>I have another 17 sources that I have not yet read. I also know of
>the equipment and psychological techniques that are used. I hesitate
>to put them here since some can be applied rather easily. Some of the
>equipment is designed specifically for this as military psyops, other
>equipment is meant for completely different purposes, some is
>eavesropping techniques that seem from your website to be used by
>proffesionals, the rest is hacking, phone phreaking, ect....
>
>On Dec 20, 6:14 pm, "James M. Atkinson" <j..._at_tscm.com> wrote:
> > Ted,
> >
> > The information which you are finding that
> > supports your delusions is either deeply flawed
> > and not scientific, or you are so desperate to
> > prove your point that you are taking weak
> > information that you may not realize is flawed or fraudulent.
> >
> > I would recommend that list subscribers read the
> > following=20
> article:http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/348-gnome-hunters.=
html
> >
> > If you need to find gnomes to prove to other that
> > you are not suffering from mental health issue
> > then it is very easy to consider that even the
> > weakest of information, or unscientific=20
> methods supports gnomes being found.
> >
> > You need to find some better information.
> >
> > -jma
> >
> > Gnome Hunters
> > Swift
> > Written by Alison Smith
> > Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:12
> > GNOME HUNTERS: A Demonstration
> >
> > I was recently asked to write an article for a
> > group of paranormal investigators about how
> > skeptics view believers. I pointed out that, not
> > being psychic, I cannot possibly know what all
> > skeptics think of all believers. But I did come
> > up with the following example, which I think
> > helps demonstrate the skeptical position.
> > Skeptics, you might find this example eerily
> > familiar. I hope that you enjoy it, and that if
> > you come across any Gnome Hunters in the future,
> > you might be able to use it to illustrate why
> > certain claims are difficult to believe.
> >
> > One day, you are hanging out in a book store. You
> > bump into a man who is buying some books, and
> > wind up talking to him for a while. You find out
> > that the man has a hobby =AD every time he visits a
> > new place, he scans the area with a special Gnome
> > Finder that he has designed himself. In reality,
> > the Gnome Finder is a calculator. When the man
> > finds out about a place that is rumored to be
> > full of gnomes (which are, of course, invisible),
> > the man takes his calculator/Gnome Finder to the
> > location and puts in a simple math problem; like
> > 2+2. Every time the man gets a wrong answer, he
> > knows that gnomes are around because gnomes hate
> > math and they block all right answers to illustrate that fact.
> >
> > The man ignores all other possible explanations
> > for the wrong answer; like perhaps his finger
> > slipped on the button or the batteries in the
> > calculator were low. He knows there are gnomes
> > because texts dating back to ancient times have
> > reports of them, and because there are so many
> > reports still. He even, when he was a child, saw
> > a gnome, and that experience has stayed with him ever since.
> >
> > You abruptly begin backing away because the man is clearly insane.
> >
> > Let's examine this example a little more closely.
> >
> > The man believes in something you have never
> > personally seen, and for which there is no
> > scientific evidence. The man uses equipment to
> > gauge whether or not this thing you have never
> > seen is present in a location even though it is
> > not designed for the purpose, is not accurate,
> > and has never been shown to do anything beyond
> > one particular thing, which is not searching for
> > gnomes. The man does not account for other
> > possibilities for his anomalous readings. The man
> > depends upon the mythology of a civilization for
> > proof. The man also depends on a memory from when
> > he was a young child, despite evidence that=20
> childhood memories are unreliable.
> >
> > Let me know when that sounds familiar.
> >
> > Assume you keep talking to this man because you
> > have no regard for your own safety.
> >
> > You bring up the points in the above paragraph.
> > To each of these points, the man has a response.
> > He says that it doesn't matter if you personally
> > have not seen gnomes. He has. And yes, it was
> > when he was a child, but obviously that just
> > means children are more open to the possibility
> > that gnomes exist, and that the rules that are
> > hammered into us in school have made adults blind
> > to the presence of gnomes. The man says that it
> > doesn't matter what the calculator was designed
> > to do =AD he has evidence, from his many gnome
> > hunting expeditions, that there is a correlation
> > between wrong readings and reports of gnome
> > activity. And the man insists that he does
> > account for other possibilities for the readings
> > because he changes his batteries often and is
> > very careful when putting in the numbers. And
> > anyway, the man can prove it. He has photos.
> >
> > You ask to see the photos of the gnomes. The man
> > presents you with a series of photographs from
> > different locations. Some of the photos look like
> > smoke. Some look like lens flares. Some look like
> > motion blurs. Some look like bugs caught in the flash of the camera.
> >
> > You point this out, and the man tells you that he
> > is sure no one in the photos was ever smoking. He
> > knows how to photograph things because he has
> > taken a photography course, so they aren't lens
> > flares. He would know what those looked like. No
> > one in the photos was in motion, and neither was
> > the camera. There were no bugs out that night because it was winter.
> >
> > And anyway, that's alright, he has audio too.
> >
> > You ask to hear the audio, and the man pulls a
> > voice recorder from his pocket. He plays you an
> > audio clip. It is full of static. You hear
> > something that might be a voice, but you aren't
> > really sure because the quality is kind of poor,
> > and there is no context for the clip =AD it starts
> > up right in the middle of what the man refers to
> > as Gnome Voice Phenomenon, or GVP. If you think
> > about it, it does sort of sound like a voice in
> > the same way that if you drag a chair across the
> > floor it might sound similar to a human voice if
> > it was played back through a voice recorder,
> > which is designed to filter audio in search of
> > patterns like human voices. If you think about
> > it, the sound could almost practically be saying
> > =93Paul is dead,=94 or =93Cranberry sauce,=94 or =93Toaster pastry.=94
> >
> > The man tells you it says =93I am Gnome.=94
> >
> > You ask to hear the recording again, and he plays
> > it back to you, this time with you listening
> > specifically for a sound that is close to =93I am
> > Gnome.=94 And, after he plays it again, you can
> > sort of hear it that way. You know, however, that
> > humans search for patterns in noise, and that if
> > someone tells you specifically what pattern to
> > look for, you'll be able to find it. In fact, you
> > have tested this phenomenon at home by recording
> > the sound of a glass being scooted across the
> > surface of a table and later telling your good
> > friend that it was a secret special recording of
> > Marilyn Monroe, and he could swear he heard part
> > of the happy birthday song in it. And even if it
> > really is a voice, and even if it really is
> > saying =93I am Gnome=94 in some of the most garbled
> > language you've ever heard, you can't see
> > anything. Audio is only audio. Even if the voice
> > was perfectly clear, there could be a human being
> > standing right next to the recorder saying it.
> >
> > You point this out, and the man tells you there
> > absolutely was not anyone doing any such thing.
> >
> > In fact, he has a television show on the Sci-Fi
> > Network on Wednesdays at 9/8 Central with the
> > rest of his group, called GAPS (Gnome Activity
> > Pursuing Society). You go home, glad to be rid of
> > the man in the bookstore. Luckily, it is
> > Wednesday, so you sit down and turn on the=20
> Sci-Fi channel and watch the show.
> >
> > The show contains everything you feared. A group
> > of individuals walking around, searching for
> > gnomes with equipment that doesn't actually prove
> > anything about gnomes. A series of anomalous
> > calculator readings that don't illustrate
> > anything at all. The group says that they are
> > skeptical, but they sure as heck aren't called
> > =93We Are Going To Go Figure Out Whether Or Not
> > There Is Something Society.=94 They are GAPS. They even have t-shirts.
> >
> > At one point in the show, something passes in
> > front of the camera. It looks like it might be
> > mist. The GAPS team is very excited about this,
> > as gnomes are known to appear in a mist-like
> > form. They run around for a few minutes, trying
> > to capture more mist. They also try to replicate
> > the mist. They cannot replicate the mist. It must
> > be real Gnome-Mist. Of course, you realize from
> > your seat at home that this means nothing except
> > that there is no more mist around, but GAPS disagrees.
> >
> > They never actually call the location =93Gnomed,=94
> > but many of the members argue about whether or
> > not it is. There is one, who you assume is always
> > the hard-sell, who is very against using the word
> > =93Gnomed=94 at all. He prefers the term =93anomalous
> > activity.=94 Then he calls himself a skeptic, even
> > though the logo on his web site contains, you
> > guessed it, a gnome, and his show is called Gnome Hunters (GH for short=
).
> >
> > You still aren't really sure what the mist was,
> > so you get online on your computer. You discover two things:
> >
> > GAPS has a giant fanbase.
> >
> > There are groups out there that have replicated
> > the mist you saw in the episode.
> >
> > After all this, do you believe in gnomes?
> >
> > http://www.skepticalanalysis.com
> >
> > http://www.the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com
> >
> > At 06:23 PM 12/19/2008, TedMc wrote:
> >
> > >I am not a doctor nor am I a TSCM expert, however I do know that
> > >something exists that all the information I can find backs up, but the
> > >experts laugh off. I have a good family who is very supportive and
> > >wants the best for me so of course I have been evalutated by doctors.
> > >I do not have time to debate information that is available to everyone
> > >because right now there is someone out there who is not as lucky as I
> > >am and is going to lose everything because those he asks for help
> > >will ridicule him. Maybe I can learn enough to help that person
> > >before this happens. Good day and please at least check into what I
> > >am saying for that person when they call, because I can bet they will
> > >say the same thing that I did, and as you say it is deadly serious.
> > >Understand that although I thank you for saying not to spend my money
> > >on something that will not help, please understand that the very
> > >reasons you say this makes what they do possible.
> >
> >=20
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