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From: "James M. Atkinson" <jm..._at_tscm.com>
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Ahem,
As the list owner I would like to personally ask Onion (and others)
to stay, and ask him (them) to reconsider leaving the group due to a
couple of list acting acting like assholes to him (them), and being
rude. Please excuse such a strong statement, and for putting it in
such graphic terms but I want to make sure that the message is understood.
Like any large group of people there is going to be times when
somebody gets their feathers ruffled, and sometimes someone will get
their toes stepped on or something. Most of the time, this is done
completely by accident, and nobody means any offense by it. We have
2000+ people on the list so there is a high likelihood that something
that somebody says is going to annoy at least one or two people (ie:
it is amazing how many people get all huffy when I mention something
about Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Happy Thanksgiving or some
other cordial holiday greeting).
Hey folks, look... 2000+ people, and most of them can openly post
with zero moderation, and we have been keeping it sane as a list now
for well over over 19 years.
All I ask is that list members contribute to the list posts that are
of a TSCM related subject matter, or of an espionage related matter,
or of a matter involving technical security that is or which may be
of interest to someone in the TSCM business. An occasional post of a
(family rated) humorous nature is appreciated, but please, please,
please post more technical stuff then you post of humor or political
nature (a good rule is for every 10-12 posts you make of a technical
or espionage related matter, you can post one item that is not
technical in nature for a 10:1 ratio or better).
Some list members will notice that I have several topics that I post
in regards to that are not of a strictly technical nature, but rather
of a TSCM business operations, or for that matter for small business
operations and there are aimed at the small businesses who perform
TSCM and related services.
I would invite other list members to post more, and bitch less. If
you do not like the posts that someone make, then go find yourself
some articles, or type some data up that you think makes a better
post or which contains more comprehensive information. I am not
saying that you should try to play one-upsman-ship with other lists
members and argue all the time, but please do not start bitching and
moaning about the list traffic when you refuse to contribute anything
of value yourself and all you want to do is stand around sucking
oxygen looking for something to complain about. Post to the list
stuff of value, and stop whining like pansies.
As list moderator, I have enough work on my hands running things both
on the list and in the real world (in case you were not aware of it,
I spend a whole lot of time each week doing sweeps, a lot of time in
academic pursuits, and a lot of time setting up sweeps), so list
members are invited to make more posts, do less lurking, and do less
bitching. I don't care if everybody is happy, and I don't care if
some list members (and moderator) have big egos and ramble on at
times, hey... folks we all have our way, and some people want to lurk
and some want to contribute, and either is fine.
The ultimate purpose of this list is to try to improve the TSCM
Industry, which is a bit like trying to herd cats.
Always ask yourself,... "What Would Albus Dumbledore Do?" >:-}
-jma
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James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803
Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467
127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web:
http://www.tscm.com/
Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 E-mail: mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmatkinson
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No enterprise is more likely to succeed than one concealed from the
enemy until it is ripe for execution. - Machiavelli, The Prince, 1521
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Ahem,<br><br>
As the list owner I would like to personally ask Onion (and others) to
stay, and ask him (them) to reconsider leaving the group due to a couple
of list acting acting like assholes to him (them), and being rude. Please
excuse such a strong statement, and for putting it in such graphic terms
but I want to make sure that the message is understood.<br><br>
Like any large group of people there is going to be times when somebody
gets their feathers ruffled, and sometimes someone will get their toes
stepped on or something. Most of the time, this is done completely by
accident, and nobody means any offense by it. We have 2000+ people on the
list so there is a high likelihood that something that somebody says is
going to annoy at least one or two people (ie: it is amazing how many
people get all huffy when I mention something about Merry Christmas,
Happy New Year, Happy Thanksgiving or some other cordial holiday
greeting).<br><br>
Hey folks, look... 2000+ people, and most of them can openly post with
zero moderation, and we have been keeping it sane as a list now for well
over over 19 years.<br><br>
All I ask is that list members contribute to the list posts that are of a
TSCM related subject matter, or of an espionage related matter, or of a
matter involving technical security that is or which may be of interest
to someone in the TSCM business. An occasional post of a (family rated)
humorous nature is appreciated, but please, please, please post more
technical stuff then you post of humor or political nature (a good rule
is for every 10-12 posts you make of a technical or espionage related
matter, you can post one item that is not technical in nature for a 10:1
ratio or better).<br><br>
Some list members will notice that I have several topics that I post in
regards to that are not of a strictly technical nature, but rather of a
TSCM business operations, or for that matter for small business
operations and there are aimed at the small businesses who perform TSCM
and related services.<br><br>
I would invite other list members to post more, and bitch less. If you do
not like the posts that someone make, then go find yourself some
articles, or type some data up that you think makes a better post or
which contains more comprehensive information. I am not saying that you
should try to play one-upsman-ship with other lists members and argue all
the time, but please do not start bitching and moaning about the list
traffic when you refuse to contribute anything of value yourself and all
you want to do is stand around sucking oxygen looking for something to
complain about. Post to the list stuff of value, and stop whining like
pansies.<br><br>
As list moderator, I have enough work on my hands running things both on
the list and in the real world (in case you were not aware of it, I spend
a whole lot of time each week doing sweeps, a lot of time in academic
pursuits, and a lot of time setting up sweeps), so list members are
invited to make more posts, do less lurking, and do less bitching. I
don't care if everybody is happy, and I don't care if some list members
(and moderator) have big egos and ramble on at times, hey... folks we all
have our way, and some people want to lurk and some want to contribute,
and either is fine.<br><br>
The ultimate purpose of this list is to try to improve the TSCM Industry,
which is a bit like trying to herd cats.<br><br>
Always ask yourself,... "What Would Albus Dumbledore Do?"
>:-}<br><br>
-jma<br><br>
<br><br>
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James M.
Atkinson
Phone: (978) 546-3803<br>
Granite Island
Group
Fax: (978) 546-9467<br>
127 Eastern Avenue
#291
Web:
<a href="
http://www.tscm.com/" eudora="autourl">
http://www.tscm.com/<br>
</a> Gloucester, MA
01931-8008
E-mail:
<a href="mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com<br>
</a> <b>
<a href="
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmatkinson" eudora="autourl">
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmatkinson<br>
</a></b>
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