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Ancient history as this is what you are talking about now.
Yet to answer YOUR question, 'what frequency range is TV Channel 1 on' it s=
till 44-50 Mhz, as the spectrum is still there. Its just not called channel=
1 anymore (in the USA) which you knew that answer to so its irrelevant and=
a waste.
The FCC ruling may not change that but that is not the point, you so you tr=
ied to belittle the information at hand and acting smug.
Stupid and a waste of our and the groups time.=20
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:13:36 -0400
To: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com
From: ber..._at_netaxs.com
Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] {6085}
As I previously pointed out, there is no TV Channel 1 (and there hasn't
been for about 66 years.) As for so-called white-space on unused TV
broadcast frequencies, some eavesdroppers have used those same
frequencies for bugs for several decades--and new FCC rulings won't
change that. =20
Happy Easter, everyone..
At 11:51 AM 4/8/2012, Onionbreath wrote:
For those who CLEARLY=20
UNDERSTANDS the evolving and current world we live in=20
and keeps up to date about the trade that this forum is for this post is
NOT for you.
This post is to _explain_ the previous that has an abbreviated current
news snippet for those in the know.
(and to also bitch-slap bernies for trying to be smug about a trade he
has lost touch with)
For those un-informed as the DEFINITION of what white spaces are, as
described by the FCC.
-This unused TV spectrum is commonly referred to as television =93white
spaces=94 (TV white spaces).
-The unlicensed devices that operate in this spectrum (TV band devices)
generally provide communications=20
-of broadband data and other services for consumers and businesses.=20
For those un-informed about the FCC RULING of what 'white-spaces'
are.
-The Commission=92s rules provide for operation of low power
unlicensed wireless devices in the=20
-broadcast television spectrum (TV bands) at locations where that
spectrum is unused by=20
-licensed services
(
ET Docket 04-186 &
ET Docket 10-174). =20
The RULES for unlicensed devices that operate in the TV bands are set
forth in
47 C.F.R. =A7=A7 15.701-.707
Now for a more rudimentary explanation of the subject matter.=20
For those un-informed as to what
frequency channel 1 is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_channel_frequencies
Who the authority is in the white
space radio spectrum.
http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/white-space-database-administrators-guide
=20
For those that do not understand the CURRENT FCC rulings on
'White-spaces.
http://www.fcc.gov/topic/white-space
For those not up on current events as reported by CNN / Money's
magazine.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2012/technology/1203/gallery.coolest-tech-20=
12/index.html
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:45:58 -0400
To: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com
From: ber..._at_netaxs.com
Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {6083}
Really, what frequency range is TV Channel 1 on? Whoever wrote this
article got several facts wrong and clearly doesn't understand the
subject matter or the relevant terminology. What's the
source? People Magazine?
At 04:13 AM 4/8/2012, you wrote:
Hidden between individual
television channels is a small but valuable collection of airwaves that
will allow for a kind of =93super Wi-Fi=94 network.
The Federal Communications Commission recently opened up the spectrum
that sits between television channels numbered 1 through 51.=20
Wireless communications in those =93white spaces=94 have been permitted
since Jan. 26 in Wilmington, N.C., the FCC=92s designated testbed location.
After the bugs are worked out, the spaces will be opened up nationally in
the coming months.
The FCC designated the white spaces as =93unlicensed=94 band, meaning
anyone can broadcast in it for free. It=91s a primo band that sits lower
than today=92s Wi-Fi, allowing signals to travel over significantly longer
distances and through buildings and walls.
It=92ll take time for all the necessary infrastructure =97 including new
chipsets for smartphones and other devices =97 to roll out, but FCC expects
the expansion to lead to innovative new kinds of wireless networks,
including connected highways, schools, parks and towns.=20
Wireless carriers scrounging for more spectrum could also begin to
broadcast Wi-Fi to customer-dense areas to reduce stress on their 3G and
4G networks.
=09=09 =09 =09=09 =20
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<font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font size=3D"3">Ancient history as this is =
what you are talking about now.</font></font><div><font face=3D"'Times New =
Roman'" size=3D"3"><br></font><div><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font siz=
e=3D"3">Yet to answer YOUR question, '</font></font><font face=3D"'Times Ne=
w Roman'" size=3D"3">what frequency range is TV Channel 1 on' it still 44-5=
0 Mhz, as the spectrum is still there. </font></div><div><font face=3D=
"'Times New Roman'" size=3D"3">Its just not called channel 1 anymore (in th=
e USA) </font><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size=
: 12pt; ">which you knew that answer to so its </span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; ">irrelevant and a waste.</=
span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 1=
2pt; "><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman';=
font-size: 12pt; "><div>The FCC ruling may not change that but that is not=
the point, you <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; ">so you tried to beli=
ttle the information at hand and acting smug.</span></div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Stupid and a waste of our and the groups time. </div></span></div><=
div><br><div><div id=3D"SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">=
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:13:36 -0400<br>To: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com<br>Fr=
om: ber..._at_netaxs.com<br>Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] {6085}<br><br>
As I previously pointed out, there is no TV Channel 1 (and there hasn't
been for about 66 years.) As for so-called white-space on unused TV
broadcast frequencies, some eavesdroppers have used those same
frequencies for bugs for several decades--and new FCC rulings won't
change that. <br><br>
Happy Easter, everyone..<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
At 11:51 AM 4/8/2012, Onionbreath wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">
<font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">For those who CLEARLY
UNDERSTANDS the evolving and current world we live in <br>
and keeps up to date about the trade that this forum is for this post is
NOT for you.<br><br>
This post is to _explain_ the previous that has an abbreviated current
news snippet for those in the know.<br>
(and to also bitch-slap bernies for trying to be smug about a trade he
has lost touch with)<br><br>
<br>
For those un-informed as the DEFINITION of what white spaces are, as
described by the FCC.<br>
-This unused TV spectrum is commonly referred to as television =93white
spaces=94 (TV white spaces).<br>
-The unlicensed devices that operate in this spectrum (TV band devices)
generally provide communications <br>
-of broadband data and other services for consumers and businesses.
<br><br>
For those un-informed about the FCC RULING of what 'white-spaces'
are.<br>
</font>-The Commission=92s rules provide for operation of low power
unlicensed wireless devices in the <br>
-broadcast television spectrum (TV bands) at locations where that
spectrum is unused by <br>
-licensed services
(<a href=3D"
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-08-260A1.=
pdf" target=3D"_blank">
ET Docket 04-186</a> &
<a href=3D"
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-174A1.p=
df" target=3D"_blank">
ET Docket 10-174</a>). <font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"> <br>
</font><br>
The RULES for unlicensed devices that operate in the TV bands are set
forth in
<a href=3D"
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=3Decfr&sid=
=3D94adaa1659816358a707dff2d9d150aa&rgn=3Ddiv6&view=3Dtext&node=
=3D47:1.0.1.1.14.8&idno=3D47" target=3D"_blank">
47 C.F.R. =A7=A7 15.701-.707</a><br><br>
Now for a more rudimentary explanation of the subject matter. <br><br>
<font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">For those un-informed as to what
frequency channel 1 is.<br>
</font>
<a href=3D"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_channel_frequencies" tar=
get=3D"_blank">
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_channel_frequencies</a><br><br>
<font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">Who the authority is in the white
space radio spectrum.<br>
</font>
<a href=3D"
http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/white-space-database-administrat=
ors-guide" target=3D"_blank">
http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/white-space-database-administrators-guide</=
a>
<br><br>
For those that do not understand the CURRENT FCC rulings on
'White-spaces.<br>
<a href=3D"
http://www.fcc.gov/topic/white-space" target=3D"_blank">
http://www.fcc.gov/topic/white-space</a><br>
<font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"><br>
For those not up on current events as reported by CNN / Money's
magazine.<br>
</font>
<a href=3D"
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2012/technology/1203/gallery.cool=
est-tech-2012/index.html" target=3D"_blank">
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2012/technology/1203/gallery.coolest-tech-20=
12/index.html</a>
<br><br>
<br>
<hr>
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:45:58 -0400<br>
To: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com<br>
From: ber..._at_netaxs.com<br>
Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {6083}<br><br>
Really, what frequency range is TV Channel 1 on? Whoever wrote this
article got several facts wrong and clearly doesn't understand the
subject matter or the relevant terminology. What's the
source? People Magazine?<br><br>
<br>
At 04:13 AM 4/8/2012, you wrote:<br>
<dl>
<dd><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">Hidden between individual
television channels is a small but valuable collection of airwaves that
will allow for a kind of =93super Wi-Fi=94 network.<br>
</font></dd><dd><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">The Federal Communica=
tions Commission recently opened up the spectrum
that sits between television channels numbered 1 through 51. <br><br>
</font></dd><dd><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">Wireless communicatio=
ns in those =93white spaces=94 have been permitted
since Jan. 26 in Wilmington, N.C., the FCC=92s designated testbed location.
After the bugs are worked out, the spaces will be opened up nationally in
the coming months.<br><br>
</font></dd><dd><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">The FCC designated th=
e white spaces as =93unlicensed=94 band, meaning
anyone can broadcast in it for free. It=91s a primo band that sits lower
than today=92s Wi-Fi, allowing signals to travel over significantly longer
distances and through buildings and walls.<br><br>
</font></dd><dd><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">It=92ll take time for=
all the necessary infrastructure =97 including new
chipsets for smartphones and other devices =97 to roll out, but FCC expects
the expansion to lead to innovative new kinds of wireless networks,
including connected highways, schools, parks and towns. <br><br>
</font></dd><dd><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">Wireless carriers scr=
ounging for more spectrum could also begin to
broadcast Wi-Fi to customer-dense areas to reduce stress on their 3G and
4G networks.</font><br>
</dd></dl></blockquote></div></div></div> =09=09 =09 =09=09 </div></body=
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