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From: Its from Onion <areda..._at_msn.com>
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Give it a rest old man.

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:17:09 -0400
To: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com
From: ber..._at_netaxs.com
Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] {6112}

That horse deserved a beating and should never have been brought out of
the barn ;-)

At 10:33 AM 4/13/2012, you wrote:

The point is the FCC thinks it is,
and that is what matters.

=20
http://www.fcc.gov/topic/white-space

Now can we stop beating this horse?

Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:09:37 -0700

From: geek..._at_yahoo.com

Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] {6105}

To: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com

44-50 is NOT white space...that is the point.

It's part of the VHF low Public Service band(or whatever they call it
now), and it IS used....of course, some of the upper part is already used
for no-license devices.

And yes, many surveillance devices have used these frequencies
too.

--- On Sun, 4/8/12, Its from Onion
<areda..._at_msn.com> wrote:

From: Its from Onion <areda..._at_msn.com>

Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] {6084}

To: "tscm-l2006" <tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com>

Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012, 11:51 AM

For those who CLEARLY=20
UNDERSTANDS the evolving and current world we live in=20

and keeps up to date about the trade that this forum is for this post
is NOT for you.

This post is to _explain_ the previous that has an abbreviated
current news snippet for those in the know.

(and to also bitch-slap bernies for trying to be smug about a trade
he has lost touch with)

For those un-informed as the DEFINITION of what white spaces are, as
described by the FCC.

-This unused TV spectrum is commonly referred to as television =93white
spaces=94 (TV white spaces).

-The unlicensed devices that operate in this spectrum (TV band
devices) generally provide communications=20

-of broadband data and other services for consumers and
businesses. =20

For those un-informed about the FCC RULING of what 'white-spaces'
are.

-The Commission=92s rules provide for operation of low power unlicensed
wireless devices in the=20

-broadcast television spectrum (TV bands) at locations where that
spectrum is unused by=20

-licensed services
(
ET Docket 04-186 &

ET Docket 10-174). =20

The RULES for unlicensed devices that operate in the TV bands are set
forth in

47 C.F.R. =A7=A7 15.701-.707

Now for a more rudimentary explanation of the subject matter.

For those un-informed as to what
frequency channel 1 is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_channel_frequencies

Who the authority is in the white
space radio spectrum.

http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/white-space-database-administrators-guide
=20

For those that do not understand the CURRENT FCC rulings on
'White-spaces.

http://www.fcc.gov/topic/white-space

For those not up on current events as reported by CNN / Money's
magazine.

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2012/technology/1203/gallery.coolest-tech-20=
12/index.html

Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:45:58 -0400

To: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com

From: ber..._at_netaxs.com

Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {6083}

Really, what frequency range is TV Channel 1 on? Whoever wrote
this article got several facts wrong and clearly doesn't understand the
subject matter or the relevant terminology. What's the
source? People Magazine?

At 04:13 AM 4/8/2012, you wrote:

Hidden between individual
television channels is a small but valuable collection of airwaves that
will allow for a kind of =93super Wi-Fi=94 network.

The Federal Communications Commission recently opened up the spectrum
that sits between television channels numbered 1 through 51.=20

Wireless communications in those =93white spaces=94 have been permitted
since Jan. 26 in Wilmington, N.C., the FCC=92s designated testbed location.
After the bugs are worked out, the spaces will be opened up nationally in
the coming months.

The FCC designated the white spaces as =93unlicensed=94 band, meaning
anyone can broadcast in it for free. It=91s a primo band that sits lower
than today=92s Wi-Fi, allowing signals to travel over significantly longer
distances and through buildings and walls.

It=92ll take time for all the necessary infrastructure =97 including new
chipsets for smartphones and other devices =97 to roll out, but FCC expects
the expansion to lead to innovative new kinds of wireless networks,
including connected highways, schools, parks and towns.=20

Wireless carriers scrounging for more spectrum could also begin to
broadcast Wi-Fi to customer-dense areas to reduce stress on their 3G and
4G networks.

=09=09 =09 =09=09 =20
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Give it=
a rest old man. <div><div id=3D"SkyDriv=
ePlaceholder"></div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:17:09=
-0400 To: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com From: ber..._at_netaxs.com Subje=
ct: RE: [TSCM-L] {6112} 

That horse deserved a beating and should never have been brought out of
the barn ;-) 
 
At 10:33 AM 4/13/2012, you wrote: 
<blockquote class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">
The point is the FCC thinks it is,
and that is what matters. 

 <a href=3D"http://www.fcc.gov/topic/white-space" target=3D"_blank">
http://www.fcc.gov/topic/white-space</a> 
 
Now can we stop beating this horse? 
<hr>
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:09:37 -0700 
From: geek..._at_yahoo.com 
Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] {6105} 
To: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com 
44-50 is NOT white space...that is the point. 
It's part of the VHF low Public Service band(or whatever they call it
now), and it IS used....of course, some of the upper part is already used
for no-license devices. 
And yes, many surveillance devices have used these frequencies
too. 
--- On Sun, 4/8/12, Its from Onion
<ared..._at_msn.com> wrote: 

<dl> 

<dd>From: Its from Onion <ared..._at_msn.com> 

</dd><dd>Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] {6084} 

</dd><dd>To: "tscm-l2006" <tsc..._at_googlegroups.com> 

</dd><dd>Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012, 11:51 AM 

</dd><dd>For those who CLEARLY 
UNDERSTANDS the evolving and current world we live in 

</dd><dd>and keeps up to date =
about the trade that this forum is for this post
is NOT for you. 

</dd><dd>This post is to _expl=
ain_ the previous that has an abbreviated
current news snippet for those in the know. 

</dd><dd>(and to also bitch-sl=
ap bernies for trying to be smug about a trade
he has lost touch with) 
 

</dd><dd>For those un-informed=
as the DEFINITION of what white spaces are, as
described by the FCC. 

</dd><dd>-This unused TV spect=
rum is commonly referred to as television =93white
spaces=94 (TV white spaces). 

</dd><dd>-The unlicensed devic=
es that operate in this spectrum (TV band
devices) generally provide communications 

</dd><dd>-of broadband data an=
d other services for consumers and
businesses.  

</dd><dd>For those un-informed=
about the FCC RULING of what 'white-spaces'
are. 

</dd><dd>-The Commission=92s rules provide for operation of low power unlic=
ensed
wireless devices in the 

</dd><dd>-broadcast television spectrum (TV bands) at locations where that
spectrum is unused by 

</dd><dd>-licensed services
(<a href=3D"http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-08-260A1.=
pdf" target=3D"_blank">
ET Docket 04-186</a> &
<a href=3D"http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-174A1.p=
df" target=3D"_blank">
ET Docket 10-174</a>). 
 

</dd><dd>The RULES for unlicensed devices that operate in the TV bands are =
set
forth in
<a href=3D"http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=3Decfr&sid=
=3D94adaa1659816358a707dff2d9d150aa&rgn=3Ddiv6&view=3Dtext&node=
=3D47:1.0.1.1.14.8&idno=3D47" target=3D"_blank">
47 C.F.R. =A7=A7 15.701-.707</a> 

</dd><dd>Now for a more rudimentary explanation of the subject matter.
 

</dd><dd>For those un-informed as to =
what
frequency channel 1 is. 

</dd><dd><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_channel_frequen=
cies" target=3D"_blank">
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_channel_frequencies</a> 

</dd><dd>Who the authority is in the =
white
space radio spectrum. 

</dd><dd>
<a href=3D"http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/white-space-database-administrat=
ors-guide" target=3D"_blank">
http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/white-space-database-administrators-guide</=
a>
 

</dd><dd>For those that do not understand the CURRENT FCC rulings on
'White-spaces. 

</dd><dd><a href=3D"http://www.fcc.gov/topic/white-space" target=3D"_blank"=
>
http://www.fcc.gov/topic/white-space</a> 
 

</dd><dd>For those not up on c=
urrent events as reported by CNN / Money's
magazine. 

</dd><dd>
<a href=3D"http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2012/technology/1203/gallery.cool=
est-tech-2012/index.html" target=3D"_blank">
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2012/technology/1203/gallery.coolest-tech-20=
12/index.html</a>
 
 
<hr>

</dd><dd>Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:45:58 -0400 

</dd><dd>To: tscm-..._at_googlegroups.com 

</dd><dd>From: ber..._at_netaxs.com 

</dd><dd>Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {6083} 

</dd><dd>Really, what frequency range is TV Channel 1 on?  Whoever wro=
te
this article got several facts wrong and clearly doesn't understand the
subject matter or the relevant terminology.  What's the
source?  People Magazine? 
 

</dd><dd>At 04:13 AM 4/8/2012, you wrote: 

<dl>
<dd>Hidden between individual
television channels is a small but valuable collection of airwaves that
will allow for a kind of =93super Wi-Fi=94 network. 

</dd><dd>The Federal Communica=
tions Commission recently opened up the spectrum
that sits between television channels numbered 1 through 51. 

</dd><dd>Wireless communicatio=
ns in those =93white spaces=94 have been permitted
since Jan. 26 in Wilmington, N.C., the FCC=92s designated testbed location.
After the bugs are worked out, the spaces will be opened up nationally in
the coming months. 

</dd><dd>The FCC designated th=
e white spaces as =93unlicensed=94 band, meaning
anyone can broadcast in it for free. It=91s a primo band that sits lower
than today=92s Wi-Fi, allowing signals to travel over significantly longer
distances and through buildings and walls. 

</dd><dd>It=92ll take time for=
all the necessary infrastructure =97 including new
chipsets for smartphones and other devices =97 to roll out, but FCC expects
the expansion to lead to innovative new kinds of wireless networks,
including connected highways, schools, parks and towns. 

</dd><dd>Wireless carriers scr=
ounging for more spectrum could also begin to
broadcast Wi-Fi to customer-dense areas to reduce stress on their 3G and
4G networks. 

</dd></dl>
</dd></dl></blockquote></div> =09=09 =09 =09=09 </div></body>
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