Re: [TSCM-L] {5937} Well Aint that a Bitch

From: James M. Atkinson <jm..._at_tscm.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:25:59 -0500

The document that you are referring to is called an "End User Letter" or "End User Certificate" and it is this letter that the exporter must provide to the U.S. State Department in order to obtain an actual "End User License"

The problem is that non of these "End User Letters" or "End User Certificates" where actually being provided to the U.S. State Department to obtain the required End User Licenses, and the goods were being unlawfully exported, and in turn unlawfully imported into the respective country.

The exporter was not actually filing to obtain the proper licenses, but was actually making people provide "End User Letters" and "End User Certificates" that they were not actually using to get the required export licenses.

The U.S. Government has to publish these sales in the Federal Register, and they have an office at the U.S. State Department that tracks the license requests, and prepares the reports. The problems is that the reports published in the Federal Register, and the reports provided to Congress show that no exports, for many years was actually done legally.

Further, so careful queries reveal that all of the exports were illegal.

-jma



Humberto Sodre wrote:

James,

 

I wondered when you said in your first email that "According this published report, there has Been exactly ZERO Legal exports of TSCM equipment out of the United States in the past six month ... ZERO.", because only this year several TSCM equipments were exported to government agencies in the area of ​​security, who signed in advance a document addressed to the U.S. Government providing all their data and pledging not to use the equipment improperly or passes it to third parties. Only after carrying out this paperwork the export was released then the U.S. government must be aware of these exports and I do not understand why it is said that there was no legal export this year!

Forgive me James and all of you on the list but maybe my little knowledge of English does not allow me to understand what you are saying, but I think that there is any contradiction in this whole story.

A happy Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.

Humberto Rigotti

2011/12/23 James M. Atkinson <jm..._at_tscm.com>

Pay close attention to 22 CFR 121.1 XI(b)

It forbids the export of TSCM unless there is a license.

-jma




Larry Brower wrote:

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On 12/23/2011 05:14 PM, secs..._at_gmail.com wrote:
  

Maybe when all the people who beleived REI start getting in trouble
because REI gets in serious serious trouble then your position will change;)
Ask REI how many lawsuits are on them now:)

Sent from my EVIL iPhone
    

Perhaps you'll want to review this as well?

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=22:1.0.1.13.60&idno=22


Why do people always try to use what a company says as an excuse?






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Larry Brower, CCENT

Fedora Ambassador - North America
Fedora Quality Assurance
lbr..._at_fedoraproject.org
http://www.fedoraproject.org/
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