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Julie,
I sure hope someone helps you....They have no idea what it feels like being=
a women, and desperate for help due to lack of funds. I too wasn't taken =
serious and the police can't help??? I was told to get my head examined an=
d if the doctor calls and says I am alright, then they may come out...they =
just don't to take my $ for no reason. It makes me realize what a need the=
ir is out there for women who can help women!!!
Good luck -
From: Not nuts...and neither are you!
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie White
To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 4:15 PM
Subject: [TSCM-L] {2100} Re: The "P-Levels" - Draft Version, Please comme=
nt
I am a single mom in desperate need of HELP. And cant get the police to h=
elp or any one else unless you have lots of money.This is criminal itsself.=
..I am being stalked by my X he is using electroncs and only god knows what=
but this is unreal!He has something in my bathroom and shower around all t=
he windows in my home so i can hear him degrade me and humiliate me only wh=
en noone is around.Now every one thinks i am crazy and cant get any help as=
it has kept me from working for so long i have almost lost every thing i o=
wn even my 1999 harley davidson that i refuse to part with.This would make =
his day and this is what he wants...PLEASE, Does anyone do pro bono sweeps =
in the puyallup, wa area.This could make a perfect movie I swear.ITS BEEN A=
N ONGOING NIGHTMARE>>>JULIE toofa..._at_yahoo.com If ypu can even get me a=
n e-mail as he deletes them usually.My cell # is253-205-5721.PLEASE HELP.YO=
U WOULD BE RITCH IN SURVAILENCE EQUIPTMENT>>>>I PROMISE.
TSCM <aar..._at_hotmail.com> wrote:
James,
Good job! Is well written with a lot of thought and detail involved
very nice guide.thank you!!
Mike
On Oct 30, 8:28 pm, "James M. Atkinson" wrote:
> The following "Applicant Questionares" is going
> live on my website on Wednesday night, and I
> drastically need a couple of you to read it over
> and see if there is anything that needs to be corrected or explained =
better.
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> -jma
>
> Recommended Gold List Questions
> Levels of TSCM Legitimacy - The "P-Levels"
>
> The following is a list of private TSCM firms who
> specialize in "bug sweeps" and wiretap detection
> and who have legitimate TSCM training,
> credentials, and equipment (and are very well respected within the in=
dustry).
>
> While most TSCM specialists are available for
> travel outside of a specific geographic area they
> tend to avoid such engagements, or will limited
> the services to vulnerability analysis,
> pre-construction assistance, non-instrumented
> inspections, simple RF checks, in-place
> monitoring, or limited TSCM services involving
> only a briefcase sized in-place monitoring system
> (such as a single spectrum analyzer, MSS, Eagle,
> ScanLock OSCOR, SPECTRE, ROSE, RAPHAEL, or similar system).
>
> These private TSCM firms tend to operate in a
> specific geographic area limited to a few hundred
> miles (usually within a eight to twelve hour, one
> day vehicle drive). However, all of the TSCM
> firms listed here are available for travel
> anywhere in the United States or the World on
> short notice, but only provide limited services
> when operating outside of their normal coverage
> area. These coverage area limitations is due to
> the logistics involved in transporting hundreds
> and often thousands of pounds of sophisticated,
> highly sensitive laboratory grade electronic
> instruments, equipment and tools. Bug sweeps and
> wiretap detection involves the use of ladders,
> pole climbing equipment, LAN analyzers, X-ray
> systems, specialized antennas and other
> equipment, which is not easily, transported by
> airplane or by any method other then trucks. In a
> few cases, the TSCM specialist can respond to any
> location within a 2 or 3-day drive with a truck
> which contains an entire mobile electronics laboratory.
>
> TSCM firms also tend to restrict their operations
> to a specific geographic area to facilitate an
> expert level of knowledge regarding the RF
> environment, construction methods used, community
> zoning, population demographics, civil
> engineering, aeronautic or maritime facilities,
> local military bases, and related areas.
> Knowledge of such regional information is
> critical for a successful TSCM project. The TSCM
> specialist must also have an intimate knowledge
> of the telephone systems, engineering methods,
> fiber optics, major cable locations, central
> office switches, test numbers, and related
> communications infrastructure present or being
> used in an area (which tends to be regional).
>
> An understanding of what types of eavesdropping
> devices, methods, and frequencies which are being
> used in an area is also important, as is
> knowledge of what type of surveillance equipment
> is being sold within that region (and other
> areas). The TSCM Procedural and Protocols Guides
> used by a specialist also tend to be based on
> specific issues and variables present in that
> specific geographic area. On a more interesting
> note, many of these firms are located in, or near
> major maritime port cities or population centers.
> The heaviest concentrations are around major
> cities on the East and West coasts with a very
> limited presence in the Mid-West, Great Plains,
> and Rockies. If you were in the Mid-West, Great
> Plains, or Rockies area you would need to engage
> a TSCM firm from one of the major port cities.
> For example, customers in Chicago, St. Louis,
> Memphis, Denver, Salt Lake City, Minneapolis,
> Billings, etc. would need to fly a TSCM
> specialist in from Boston, New York, Washington
> DC, Los Angles, Lexington, or Seattle.
>
> Please be patient when contacting any TSCM firm,
> as if they are out serving a client they may not
> be able to return your call for several hours.
> Rates generally are non-negotiable and reflect
> the cost of the sweep practitioner's time,
> considerable investment in equipment acquisition
> and maintenance, several weeks of in-service
> training a year, travel, administrative and
> communications time and expense to coordinate the
> sweep and written report, and a fair profit for
> their services. It is very unwise to shop for
> sweeps by using price as a criterion as it only
> invites being ripped off. Legitimate TSCM
> professionals are not interested in, nor will
> they engage in negotiating for a lower price.
> When you contact persons on this list, you are
> talking with someone in the same league as an
> attorney or surgeon, not a salesman. In fact,
> most of the people listed on this page have more
> time in their specialized training than do most
> attorneys or medical professionals. Anything
> beyond an initial 15-minute phone call usually
> will be billable time. Attorneys and doctors do
> not consult free, and neither do legitimate TSCM
> specialists. If a potential client calls with a
> long list of questions not pertaining directly to
> hiring the practitioner, or wants to know how to
> do his own sweep, or wants to know how to use the
> sweep kit he purchased on his own, expect to pay
> an hourly rate or $250 in advance for consulting
> services. If you are considering engaging (or
> have already engaged) a TSCM firm and they are
> not listed in the following directory you would
> do well to immediately ask some awkward
> questions. It is also important you understand
> that legitimate services by a competent TSCM firm
> rarely start at less then several thousand
> dollars for even a basic sweep, and a proper
> sweep take days, not hours to complete. Keep in
> mind that there only a small number of legitimate
> and competent TSCM counterintelligence
> specialists or "Bug Sweepers" in the U.S. private
> sector. Legitimate TSCM firms are in very high
> demand, hard to find, and expensive; so be
> patient when trying to find one to help you. In
> addition, TSCM firms are not attorneys and cannot
> tell you whether it is legal or illegal for you
> to monitor your own phones. Always call a
> competent licensed attorney for legal advice.
>
> Magic Formula
> Technical Background - Cube this
> Formal Technical Training (1200 hours, every 5 years) - Square This
> Equipment and Tools - Cube This
> Basic Equipment/Tools
> Intermediate Equipment/Tools
> Advanced Equipment/Tools
> Vehicles (halve this)
> Basic Vehicle
> Intermediate Vehicle
> Advanced Equipment - DOT/CDL
> Honesty and Integrity - Divided by all
>
> Square root of
> (Tech3+TechTraining2+Tools+TestEquipment3+.5Vechiles) /Honesty
>
> You use the list like this. You assign each of
> the P-Levels a score between negative numbers and
> positive ten, essentially adding or subtracting
> points up to ten either way depending on how each
> of the attribute apply to the person you are
> talking to. In a few cases, you can subtract more
> then ten points for issues that provide areas of significant concern.
>
> You would hope that the person or company you are
> considering performing a TSCM project would
> attain a perfect score as that means the person
> is very legitimate and professional and that you
> feel that none of the negative attributes or
> levels apply to them, but in reality such, a
> score is impractical. Nobody is perfect, and
> anybody who appears to be perfect should
> certainly be viewed with caution and a healthy dose of skepticism.
>
> Professional - A true blue, died in the wool
> security expert with years of RELEVANT experience
> and background in their specific area of
> expertise. He will "walk the walk and talk the
> talk", and have the scars to prove it. This
> person will own all the necessary equipment,
> hundred of books (some of which he wrote or
> contributed to), a large number of original web
> pages or white papers on the subject. He (or she)
> will seek to illuminate the subject matter, and
> will be able to explain very complex topics in
> terms the non-technical public or layman can
> understand and is comfortable is discussing the
> matter without pushing their services too much
> (they let you come to them, and never gets
> pushy). If they are very professional they get
> +10 points, if they seem a little rough around
> the edges give them +7, but start dropping points
> as you get more uncomfortable with their
> professionalism. If they are rough around the
> edges, or just a little too pushy to get your
> business then award them zero points, and if they
> really get pushy or seem desperate for your
> business then start subtracting points quickly.
>
> Pretender - Similar to the above professional but
> has irrelevant or bogus credentials. They may
> talk the talk, but cannot walk the walk (nor have
> the scars). Will talk a good game, but generally
> lacks legitimate equipment, materials, or
> training. He often has not written a book but
> will often plagiarize others (and claim it as his
> own work). If the "pretender" has an online
> presence or web page, it is full of hype,
> rhetoric, and paranoia (but little science). He
> is quite capable of totally baffling customers,
> but cannot explain things in a non-technical way
> (or without hyping surveillance technology to
> death). In this case you start by awarding them
> -10 points, and as they convince you that they
> are legitimate you slowly start adding points up
> to as much as a +10 points. Very often the
> pretender will be someone who retired from
> government service with honorable service, but
> who lacks the technical background to perform a
> competent sweep, and thus pretend to know what
> they are doing. In many cases, the pretender
> actually has themselves convinced that they can
> do a good job, but sometimes their inabilities
> lead then into the next category.
>
> Putz - This is nothing more then a buffoon.
> Generally he does not know how to do the job, has
> virtually no equipment, training, or resources
> (but tries hard). He may or may not be honest,
> and may actually believe that he is competent. He
> may have a few technical toys, and may have a
> week or two of training in electronics,
> surveillance, and security (all in one). In this
> case, you start by awarding them -10 points, and
> as they convince you that they are not a putz you
> slowly start adding points up to as much as a +10 points.
>
> Parasite - This type leaches off of the
> credibility of others, generally has no
> expertise, knowledge, or training of their own in
> what they are offering. Usually someone like this
> walks and talks like a salesman, and they love to
> run their mouth about all the people they know.
> Name-dropping is an art form to the parasite. The
> parasite may be detected by the way they rattle
> off a list of references, customers, or contacts
> before anybody has really asked for them. He will
> usually be desperate to prove to you how
> legitimate he is right from the very beginning of
> your contact with them. You start them with zero
> points, and gain or loose points as you feel
> appropriate. The parasite is the consummate
> salesmen, but not an actual sweep person. One
> rule of the TSCM profession is that you never
> talk about your customers, so someone who is
> trying to impress you with who they know or is
> name-dropping is a parasite who is trying to
> impress you, and in turn, you should not trust
> them, and score the parasite accordingly. Start
> with awarding zero points, and each time they
> name drop or mention a company name with whom
> they have performed sweep work subtract 3 points,
> up to 30 points. If on the other hand the TSCM
> expert does not mention his customers award 3
> points, then ask for references, and then when he
> declines to provide references award 3 more
> points (or if they give you references subtract 6
> points). Next, you want to aggressively pressure
> them for client names, and for references, and
> then if at this point (under pressure) they keep
> their mouth shut you add 6 points, or if they
> give in and breach their client privacy, you
> subtract 6 points. There is nothing wrong with
> being involved in sales, but in the TSCM
> business, a "sales push" or pushing to close the transaction is a lia=
bility.
>
> Predator - This type is pure evil and the only
> reason they are involved in security is to
> victimize the customer. The predator is only
> interested in backstabbing, theft, betrayal, or
> harming the client in a serious way. The only
> reason this type of person is involved in TSCM or
> the security industry is to ferret out their
> customers secrets so they can be exploited for
> scams or for criminal purposes. If this person
> gives you even the slightest hint of being, a
> criminal hit them with -100 points and let them
> work their way out of it. Now, do not confuse
> someone who hunts spies for a living for someone
> who performs eavesdropping for a living, or
> someone who is a professional criminal who preys
> upon his client. A true TSCM expert is hunting
> spies and bugs, and is not preying off their
> client, they do not hunt the spy directly, but
> rather hunt the spies' technical toys (it is a
> subtle, but important difference).
>
> Poison - He has nothing good to say about anybody
> except himself and his associates and tends to be
> bitter against everybody around him. When
> questioned about his own credentials he will lash
> out at his competitors with personal attacks
> (instead of discussing his own credentials). This
> type is easily identified after five minutes of
> talking, and they have not said one thing
> specifically regarding their own merit,
> equipment, or credentials. It is easy to figure
> this one out and to award or subtract points
> either way. If this person only slightly lashes
> out against others it may be that, he has a
> backbone, but is not actually toxic. Be careful
> here and only subtract points if this person is
> hardcore in his angst and bitterness. Hint: Most
> TSCM folks have a strong moral backbone, and have
> a strong sense of fairness and of what are right
> and wrong. Most TSCM professionals will be
> strongly biased against eavesdroppers, felons, or
> wrong doers, and this bias should result in
> points being awarded as you discuss just "how
> white his hat is". On the other hand, if the TSCM
> expert is bitter against others, but cannot
> specifically tell you why, then you should
> subtract points. Also, be wary of any TSCM expert
> who is overly complementary towards other people
> as this may indicate a potential parasite.
>
> Puffer Fish - Typically, he has little or no
> credentials of his own, but knows all of the
> industry lingo and jargon. He will claim to be
> the president of a huge corporation with scores
> of employees, tens of millions in assets when in
> fact this type is a penniless mooch who is still
> living with their parents. If not living with his
> parents his (or her) spouse will be the primary
> breadwinner in the family, their primary income
> (and references) will be from close friends or
> family. Listen very carefully for any hint as to
> where the seed money came from for them to start
> their business, as you may find that a rich
> family member bought them the equipment and has
> been subsidizing their TSCM activities. Often
> this type is also a pretender and bumbling putz.
> Listen for any hint of grandiosity or of what
> this person is going to do in the future, versus
> what they have actually done in the past. Dream
> and aspirations are important; delusions and
> illusions are not and should be graded accordingly.
>
> Psychiatrist Bait - These people are really
> nothing more then con artists who will ramble on
> for hours with wild tales of how they were a Navy
> SEAL, covert CIA operative, undercover FBI agent,
> won the Congressional Medal of Honor, was a POW,
> won the war, and so on. They could tell you about
> their credentials, but then they would have to
> kill you. Often they will offer credentials,
> which at first appear real, but cannot be
> confirmed, or is suspect in another way. They
> will offer credentials that cannot be verified by
> their own admission. "It's too secret" Ask
> questions, get specific answers, grade as you
> feel is appropriate. However, step carefully, as
> many TSCM people will not discuss a great deal of
> their background initially, so this level should
> be considered in regards to initial contact. If
> the person sounds and talks a little crazy
> initially then subtract points, but if they seem
> sane and coherent then add points. Do not get too
> carried away on this issue though. Always
> remember that the TSCM person is grading you as a
> customer as well, and may not be too keen on
> disclosing too much about their background until
> they get to know you better, so this is a two way street.
>
> Phelons (or Felon) - This group is a real problem
> within the security business. Many con artists,
> felons, and dirt-bags try to capitalize on their
> criminal skills by claiming to be able to catch
> other criminals. Usually their only credential
> (which can be verified) is the criminal
> conviction. Often this type will claim to be a
> convicted hacker and computer expert when in fact
> he was convicted of arson, or of being a drug
> dealer, is a psychiatric patient, and is
> incapable of recovering his own hard drive or of
> performing the most simplistic of technical
> tasks. The few cases where the conviction was
> relevant to their field will not set your mind at
> ease about their now "reformed" status. Now this
> gets a tricky because if you become reasonably
> convinced that you are talking to a felon (or
> they brag of their crimes) you need to subtract
> 50 points, and not consider dealing with them
> unless there is some overwhelming reason to do
> so. If the person was involved in a crime that
> did not involve moral turpitude or violence
> (i.e.: drunk driving, disorderly conduct, etc)
> then perhaps subtract only 15 points. Now, on the
> other hand if the TSCM appears to be a good
> citizen, with no criminal histories then they get only a positive 10 =
points.
>
> Paranoids - Usually has knowledge of security
> because of an anti-establishment, paranoid or
> criminal mind-set, which compels them to
> constantly look over their shoulder. Of course,
> the government is constantly harassing them, has
> their phones taped, has video cameras in their
> house, and has legions of agents employed just to
> harass them specifically. They will sometimes
> rant on about government mind control, biological
> implants, electronic harassment, and so on. In
> some cases they have written books or articles,
> but the materials is published only in very
> narrow channels, or by paramilitary or fringe
> publishers. Very often, they will hear voices in
> their head, and/or be able to convince other that
> they too are hearing voices or seeing visions. If
> they are hearing voices, seeing visions, or claim
> to have any kind, of "special powers", you should
> subtract 30 or more points. If they seem like a
> normal and rational person they get zero points,
> but if they are "professionally cautious" add a
> few positive points as TSCM experts operate in a
> world where they assume that a place is bugged
> until scientifically proven otherwise, they are
> not paranoid, but more accurately are in touch
> with the eavesdropping threat. To be awarded +10
> point the TSCM expert should be cautious,
> careful, and delicate with the project, but
> should not act "crazy", and should make you feel more secure, and not=
fearful.
>
> Police - When a TSCM expert enters the
> profession, they hopefully come with a multitude
> of prior experience, some have a technical
> background, and some have little or no technical
> background. Sadly, there are quite a few retired
> or fired members of the law enforcement or
> intelligence community who try their hands at
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Julie,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I sure hope someone helps you....They have=
no idea
what it feels like being a women, and desperate for help due to lack o=
f
funds. I too wasn't taken serious and the police can't
help??? I was told to get my head examined and if the doctor cal=
ls
and says I am alright, then they may come out...they just don't to take my =
$ for
no reason. It makes me realize what a need their is out there for wom=
en
who can help women!!! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good luck - </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: Not nuts...and neither are
you!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LE=
FT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>Fro=
m:</B>
<A title=toofa..._at_yahoo.com href="mailto:toofa..._at_yahoo.com">Julie
White</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=TSCM-..._at_googlegrou=
ps.com
href="mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com">TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 08, 2007 =
4:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [TSCM-L] {2100} Re: The=
"P-Levels" - Draft Version, Please comment</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I am a single mom in desperate need of HELP. And cant get =
the
police to help or any one else unless you have lots of money.This is crim=
inal
itsself...I am being stalked by my X he is using electroncs and only god =
knows
what but this is unreal!He has something in my bathroom and shower around=
all
the windows in my home so i can hear him degrade me and humiliate me only=
when
noone is around.Now every one thinks i am crazy and cant get any help as =
it
has kept me from working for so long i have almost lost every thing i own=
even
my 1999 harley davidson that i refuse to part with.This would make his da=
y and
this is what he wants...PLEASE, Does anyone do pro bono sweeps in the
puyallup, wa area.This could make a perfect movie I swear.ITS BEEN AN ONG=
OING
NIGHTMARE>>>JULIE <A
href="mailto:toofa..._at_yahoo.com">toofa..._at_yahoo.com</A> If =
ypu
can even get me an e-mail as he deletes them usually.My cell #
is253-205-5721.PLEASE HELP.YOU WOULD BE RITCH IN SURVAILENCE
EQUIPTMENT>>>>I PROMISE.<BR><BR><B><I>TSCM
<a..._at_hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px so=
lid"><BR>James,<BR><BR>Good
job! Is well written with a lot of thought and detail involved<BR>very =
nice
guide.thank you!!<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR>On Oct 30, 8:28 pm, "James M. Atki=
nson"
<J..._at_TSCM.COM>wrote:<BR>> The following "Applicant Questionares" is=
going<BR>> live on my website on Wednesday night, and I<BR>>
drastically need a couple of you to read it over<BR>> and see if the=
re is
anything that needs to be corrected or explained better.<BR>><BR>>=
;
Many Thanks,<BR>><BR>> -jma<BR>><BR>> Recommended Gold List=
Questions<BR>> Levels of TSCM Legitimacy - The "P-Levels"<BR>><BR=
>>
The following is a list of private TSCM firms who<BR>> specialize in=
"bug
sweeps" and wiretap detection<BR>> and who have legitimate TSCM
training,<BR>> credentials, and equipment (and are very well respect=
ed
within the industry).<BR>><BR>> While most TSCM specialists are=
available for<BR>> travel outside of a specific geographic area
they<BR>> tend to avoid such engagements, or will limited<BR>> th=
e
services to vulnerability analysis,<BR>> pre-construction assistance=
,
non-instrumented<BR>> inspections, simple RF checks, in-place<BR>>=
;
monitoring, or limited TSCM services involving<BR>> only a briefcase=
sized in-place monitoring system<BR>> (such as a single spectrum
analyzer, MSS, Eagle,<BR>> ScanLock OSCOR, SPECTRE, ROSE, RAPHAEL, o=
r
similar system).<BR>><BR>> These private TSCM firms tend to opera=
te in
a<BR>> specific geographic area limited to a few hundred<BR>> mil=
es
(usually within a eight to twelve hour, one<BR>> day vehicle drive).=
However, all of the TSCM<BR>> firms listed here are available for
travel<BR>> anywhere in the United States or the World on<BR>> sh=
ort
notice, but only provide limited services<BR>> when operating outsid=
e of
their normal coverage<BR>> area. These coverage area limitations is =
due
to<BR>> the logistics involved in transporting hundreds<BR>> and =
often
thousands of pounds of sophisticated,<BR>> highly sensitive laborato=
ry
grade electronic<BR>> instruments, equipment and tools. Bug sweeps=
and<BR>> wiretap detection involves the use of ladders,<BR>> pole=
climbing equipment, LAN analyzers, X-ray<BR>> systems, specialized=
antennas and other<BR>> equipment, which is not easily, transported=
by<BR>> airplane or by any method other then trucks. In a<BR>> fe=
w
cases, the TSCM specialist can respond to any<BR>> location within a=
2 or
3-day drive with a truck<BR>> which contains an entire mobile electr=
onics
laboratory.<BR>><BR>> TSCM firms also tend to restrict their
operations<BR>> to a specific geographic area to facilitate an<BR>&g=
t;
expert level of knowledge regarding the RF<BR>> environment, constru=
ction
methods used, community<BR>> zoning, population demographics,
civil<BR>> engineering, aeronautic or maritime facilities,<BR>> l=
ocal
military bases, and related areas.<BR>> Knowledge of such regional=
information is<BR>> critical for a successful TSCM project. The
TSCM<BR>> specialist must also have an intimate knowledge<BR>> of=
the
telephone systems, engineering methods,<BR>> fiber optics, major cab=
le
locations, central<BR>> office switches, test numbers, and
related<BR>> communications infrastructure present or being<BR>> =
used
in an area (which tends to be regional).<BR>><BR>> An understandi=
ng of
what types of eavesdropping<BR>> devices, methods, and frequencies w=
hich
are being<BR>> used in an area is also important, as is<BR>> know=
ledge
of what type of surveillance equipment<BR>> is being sold within tha=
t
region (and other<BR>> areas). The TSCM Procedural and Protocols
Guides<BR>> used by a specialist also tend to be based on<BR>>
specific issues and variables present in that<BR>> specific geograph=
ic
area. On a more interesting<BR>> note, many of these firms are locat=
ed
in, or near<BR>> major maritime port cities or population
centers.<BR>> The heaviest concentrations are around major<BR>> c=
ities
on the East and West coasts with a very<BR>> limited presence in the=
Mid-West, Great Plains,<BR>> and Rockies. If you were in the Mid-Wes=
t,
Great<BR>> Plains, or Rockies area you would need to engage<BR>> =
a
TSCM firm from one of the major port cities.<BR>> For example, custo=
mers
in Chicago, St. Louis,<BR>> Memphis, Denver, Salt Lake City,
Minneapolis,<BR>> Billings, etc. would need to fly a TSCM<BR>>
specialist in from Boston, New York, Washington<BR>> DC, Los Angles,=
Lexington, or Seattle.<BR>><BR>> Please be patient when contactin=
g any
TSCM firm,<BR>> as if they are out serving a client they may not<BR>=
>
be able to return your call for several hours.<BR>> Rates generally =
are
non-negotiable and reflect<BR>> the cost of the sweep practitioner's=
time,<BR>> considerable investment in equipment acquisition<BR>> =
and
maintenance, several weeks of in-service<BR>> training a year, trave=
l,
administrative and<BR>> communications time and expense to coordinat=
e
the<BR>> sweep and written report, and a fair profit for<BR>> the=
ir
services. It is very unwise to shop for<BR>> sweeps by using price a=
s a
criterion as it only<BR>> invites being ripped off. Legitimate
TSCM<BR>> professionals are not interested in, nor will<BR>> they=
engage in negotiating for a lower price.<BR>> When you contact perso=
ns on
this list, you are<BR>> talking with someone in the same league as=
an<BR>> attorney or surgeon, not a salesman. In fact,<BR>> most o=
f the
people listed on this page have more<BR>> time in their specialized=
training than do most<BR>> attorneys or medical professionals.
Anything<BR>> beyond an initial 15-minute phone call usually<BR>>=
will
be billable time. Attorneys and doctors do<BR>> not consult free, an=
d
neither do legitimate TSCM<BR>> specialists. If a potential client c=
alls
with a<BR>> long list of questions not pertaining directly to<BR>>=
;
hiring the practitioner, or wants to know how to<BR>> do his own swe=
ep,
or wants to know how to use the<BR>> sweep kit he purchased on his o=
wn,
expect to pay<BR>> an hourly rate or $250 in advance for
consulting<BR>> services. If you are considering engaging (or<BR>>=
;
have already engaged) a TSCM firm and they are<BR>> not listed in th=
e
following directory you would<BR>> do well to immediately ask some=
awkward<BR>> questions. It is also important you understand<BR>> =
that
legitimate services by a competent TSCM firm<BR>> rarely start at le=
ss
then several thousand<BR>> dollars for even a basic sweep, and a
proper<BR>> sweep take days, not hours to complete. Keep in<BR>> =
mind
that there only a small number of legitimate<BR>> and competent TSCM=
counterintelligence<BR>> specialists or "Bug Sweepers" in the U.S.=
private<BR>> sector. Legitimate TSCM firms are in very high<BR>>=
demand, hard to find, and expensive; so be<BR>> patient when trying =
to
find one to help you. In<BR>> addition, TSCM firms are not attorneys=
and
cannot<BR>> tell you whether it is legal or illegal for you<BR>> =
to
monitor your own phones. Always call a<BR>> competent licensed attor=
ney
for legal advice.<BR>><BR>> Magic Formula<BR>> Technical Backg=
round
- Cube this<BR>> Formal Technical Training (1200 hours, every 5 year=
s) -
Square This<BR>> Equipment and Tools - Cube This<BR>> Basic
Equipment/Tools<BR>> Intermediate Equipment/Tools<BR>> Advanced=
Equipment/Tools<BR>> Vehicles (halve this)<BR>> Basic Vehicle<BR>=
>
Intermediate Vehicle<BR>> Advanced Equipment - DOT/CDL<BR>> Hones=
ty
and Integrity - Divided by all<BR>><BR>> Square root of<BR>>=
(Tech3+TechTraining2+Tools+TestEquipment3+.5Vechiles)
/Honesty<BR>><BR>> You use the list like this. You assign each
of<BR>> the P-Levels a score between negative numbers and<BR>>
positive ten, essentially adding or subtracting<BR>> points up to te=
n
either way depending on how each<BR>> of the attribute apply to the=
person you are<BR>> talking to. In a few cases, you can subtract
more<BR>> then ten points for issues that provide areas of significa=
nt
concern.<BR>><BR>> You would hope that the person or company you=
are<BR>> considering performing a TSCM project would<BR>> attain =
a
perfect score as that means the person<BR>> is very legitimate and=
professional and that you<BR>> feel that none of the negative attrib=
utes
or<BR>> levels apply to them, but in reality such, a<BR>> score i=
s
impractical. Nobody is perfect, and<BR>> anybody who appears to be=
perfect should<BR>> certainly be viewed with caution and a healthy d=
ose
of skepticism.<BR>><BR>> Professional - A true blue, died in the=
wool<BR>> security expert with years of RELEVANT experience<BR>> =
and
background in their specific area of<BR>> expertise. He will "walk t=
he
walk and talk the<BR>> talk", and have the scars to prove it.
This<BR>> person will own all the necessary equipment,<BR>> hundr=
ed of
books (some of which he wrote or<BR>> contributed to), a large numbe=
r of
original web<BR>> pages or white papers on the subject. He (or
she)<BR>> will seek to illuminate the subject matter, and<BR>> wi=
ll be
able to explain very complex topics in<BR>> terms the non-technical=
public or layman can<BR>> understand and is comfortable is discussin=
g
the<BR>> matter without pushing their services too much<BR>> (the=
y let
you come to them, and never gets<BR>> pushy). If they are very
professional they get<BR>> +10 points, if they seem a little rough=
around<BR>> the edges give them +7, but start dropping points<BR>>=
; as
you get more uncomfortable with their<BR>> professionalism. If they =
are
rough around the<BR>> edges, or just a little too pushy to get
your<BR>> business then award them zero points, and if they<BR>>=
really get pushy or seem desperate for your<BR>> business then start=
subtracting points quickly.<BR>><BR>> Pretender - Similar to the =
above
professional but<BR>> has irrelevant or bogus credentials. They
may<BR>> talk the talk, but cannot walk the walk (nor have<BR>> t=
he
scars). Will talk a good game, but generally<BR>> lacks legitimate=
equipment, materials, or<BR>> training. He often has not written a b=
ook
but<BR>> will often plagiarize others (and claim it as his<BR>> o=
wn
work). If the "pretender" has an online<BR>> presence or web page, i=
t is
full of hype,<BR>> rhetoric, and paranoia (but little science).
He<BR>> is quite capable of totally baffling customers,<BR>> but=
cannot explain things in a non-technical way<BR>> (or without hyping=
surveillance technology to<BR>> death). In this case you start by
awarding them<BR>> -10 points, and as they convince you that they<BR=
>>
are legitimate you slowly start adding points up<BR>> to as much as =
a +10
points. Very often the<BR>> pretender will be someone who retired
from<BR>> government service with honorable service, but<BR>> who=
lacks the technical background to perform a<BR>> competent sweep, an=
d
thus pretend to know what<BR>> they are doing. In many cases, the
pretender<BR>> actually has themselves convinced that they can<BR>&g=
t; do
a good job, but sometimes their inabilities<BR>> lead then into the =
next
category.<BR>><BR>> Putz - This is nothing more then a
buffoon.<BR>> Generally he does not know how to do the job, has<BR>&=
gt;
virtually no equipment, training, or resources<BR>> (but tries hard)=
. He
may or may not be honest,<BR>> and may actually believe that he is=
competent. He<BR>> may have a few technical toys, and may have a<BR>=
>
week or two of training in electronics,<BR>> surveillance, and secur=
ity
(all in one). In this<BR>> case, you start by awarding them -10 poin=
ts,
and<BR>> as they convince you that they are not a putz you<BR>> s=
lowly
start adding points up to as much as a +10 points.<BR>><BR>> Para=
site
- This type leaches off of the<BR>> credibility of others, generally=
has
no<BR>> expertise, knowledge, or training of their own in<BR>> wh=
at
they are offering. Usually someone like this<BR>> walks and talks li=
ke a
salesman, and they love to<BR>> run their mouth about all the people=
they
know.<BR>> Name-dropping is an art form to the parasite. The<BR>>=
parasite may be detected by the way they rattle<BR>> off a list of=
references, customers, or contacts<BR>> before anybody has really as=
ked
for them. He will<BR>> usually be desperate to prove to you how<BR>&=
gt;
legitimate he is right from the very beginning of<BR>> your contact =
with
them. You start them with zero<BR>> points, and gain or loose points=
as
you feel<BR>> appropriate. The parasite is the consummate<BR>>
salesmen, but not an actual sweep person. One<BR>> rule of the TSCM=
profession is that you never<BR>> talk about your customers, so some=
one
who is<BR>> trying to impress you with who they know or is<BR>>=
name-dropping is a parasite who is trying to<BR>> impress you, and i=
n
turn, you should not trust<BR>> them, and score the parasite accordi=
ngly.
Start<BR>> with awarding zero points, and each time they<BR>> nam=
e
drop or mention a company name with whom<BR>> they have performed sw=
eep
work subtract 3 points,<BR>> up to 30 points. If on the other hand t=
he
TSCM<BR>> expert does not mention his customers award 3<BR>> poin=
ts,
then ask for references, and then when he<BR>> declines to provide=
references award 3 more<BR>> points (or if they give you references=
subtract 6<BR>> points). Next, you want to aggressively pressure<BR>=
>
them for client names, and for references, and<BR>> then if at this =
point
(under pressure) they keep<BR>> their mouth shut you add 6 points, o=
r if
they<BR>> give in and breach their client privacy, you<BR>> subtr=
act 6
points. There is nothing wrong with<BR>> being involved in sales, bu=
t in
the TSCM<BR>> business, a "sales push" or pushing to close the
transaction is a liability.<BR>><BR>> Predator - This type is pur=
e
evil and the only<BR>> reason they are involved in security is to<BR=
>>
victimize the customer. The predator is only<BR>> interested in
backstabbing, theft, betrayal, or<BR>> harming the client in a serio=
us
way. The only<BR>> reason this type of person is involved in TSCM
or<BR>> the security industry is to ferret out their<BR>> custome=
rs
secrets so they can be exploited for<BR>> scams or for criminal purp=
oses.
If this person<BR>> gives you even the slightest hint of being, a<BR=
>>
criminal hit them with -100 points and let them<BR>> work their way =
out
of it. Now, do not confuse<BR>> someone who hunts spies for a living=
for
someone<BR>> who performs eavesdropping for a living, or<BR>> som=
eone
who is a professional criminal who preys<BR>> upon his client. A tru=
e
TSCM expert is hunting<BR>> spies and bugs, and is not preying off=
their<BR>> client, they do not hunt the spy directly, but<BR>> ra=
ther
hunt the spies' technical toys (it is a<BR>> subtle, but important=
difference).<BR>><BR>> Poison - He has nothing good to say about=
anybody<BR>> except himself and his associates and tends to be<BR>&g=
t;
bitter against everybody around him. When<BR>> questioned about his =
own
credentials he will lash<BR>> out at his competitors with personal=
attacks<BR>> (instead of discussing his own credentials). This<BR>&g=
t;
type is easily identified after five minutes of<BR>> talking, and th=
ey
have not said one thing<BR>> specifically regarding their own
merit,<BR>> equipment, or credentials. It is easy to figure<BR>> =
this
one out and to award or subtract points<BR>> either way. If this per=
son
only slightly lashes<BR>> out against others it may be that, he has=
a<BR>> backbone, but is not actually toxic. Be careful<BR>> here =
and
only subtract points if this person is<BR>> hardcore in his angst an=
d
bitterness. Hint: Most<BR>> TSCM folks have a strong moral backbone,=
and
have<BR>> a strong sense of fairness and of what are right<BR>> a=
nd
wrong. Most TSCM professionals will be<BR>> strongly biased against=
eavesdroppers, felons, or<BR>> wrong doers, and this bias should res=
ult
in<BR>> points being awarded as you discuss just "how<BR>> white =
his
hat is". On the other hand, if the TSCM<BR>> expert is bitter agains=
t
others, but cannot<BR>> specifically tell you why, then you
should<BR>> subtract points. Also, be wary of any TSCM expert<BR>>=
; who
is overly complementary towards other people<BR>> as this may indica=
te a
potential parasite.<BR>><BR>> Puffer Fish - Typically, he has lit=
tle
or no<BR>> credentials of his own, but knows all of the<BR>> indu=
stry
lingo and jargon. He will claim to be<BR>> the president of a huge=
corporation with scores<BR>> of employees, tens of millions in asset=
s
when in<BR>> fact this type is a penniless mooch who is still<BR>>=
;
living with their parents. If not living with his<BR>> parents his (=
or
her) spouse will be the primary<BR>> breadwinner in the family, thei=
r
primary income<BR>> (and references) will be from close friends
or<BR>> family. Listen very carefully for any hint as to<BR>> whe=
re
the seed money came from for them to start<BR>> their business, as y=
ou
may find that a rich<BR>> family member bought them the equipment an=
d
has<BR>> been subsidizing their TSCM activities. Often<BR>> this =
type
is also a pretender and bumbling putz.<BR>> Listen for any hint of=
grandiosity or of what<BR>> this person is going to do in the future=
,
versus<BR>> what they have actually done in the past. Dream<BR>> =
and
aspirations are important; delusions and<BR>> illusions are not and=
should be graded accordingly.<BR>><BR>> Psychiatrist Bait - These=
people are really<BR>> nothing more then con artists who will ramble=
on<BR>> for hours with wild tales of how they were a Navy<BR>> SE=
AL,
covert CIA operative, undercover FBI agent,<BR>> won the Congression=
al
Medal of Honor, was a POW,<BR>> won the war, and so on. They could t=
ell
you about<BR>> their credentials, but then they would have to<BR>>=
;
kill you. Often they will offer credentials,<BR>> which at first app=
ear
real, but cannot be<BR>> confirmed, or is suspect in another way.
They<BR>> will offer credentials that cannot be verified by<BR>> =
their
own admission. "It's too secret" Ask<BR>> questions, get specific
answers, grade as you<BR>> feel is appropriate. However, step carefu=
lly,
as<BR>> many TSCM people will not discuss a great deal of<BR>> th=
eir
background initially, so this level should<BR>> be considered in reg=
ards
to initial contact. If<BR>> the person sounds and talks a little
crazy<BR>> initially then subtract points, but if they seem<BR>> =
sane
and coherent then add points. Do not get too<BR>> carried away on th=
is
issue though. Always<BR>> remember that the TSCM person is grading y=
ou as
a<BR>> customer as well, and may not be too keen on<BR>> disclosi=
ng
too much about their background until<BR>> they get to know you bett=
er,
so this is a two way street.<BR>><BR>> Phelons (or Felon) - This =
group
is a real problem<BR>> within the security business. Many con
artists,<BR>> felons, and dirt-bags try to capitalize on their<BR>&g=
t;
criminal skills by claiming to be able to catch<BR>> other criminals=
.
Usually their only credential<BR>> (which can be verified) is the
criminal<BR>> conviction. Often this type will claim to be a<BR>>=
convicted hacker and computer expert when in fact<BR>> he was convic=
ted
of arson, or of being a drug<BR>> dealer, is a psychiatric patient, =
and
is<BR>> incapable of recovering his own hard drive or of<BR>>
performing the most simplistic of technical<BR>> tasks. The few case=
s
where the conviction was<BR>> relevant to their field will not set y=
our
mind at<BR>> ease about their now "reformed" status. Now this<BR>>=
;
gets a tricky because if you become reasonably<BR>> convinced that y=
ou
are talking to a felon (or<BR>> they brag of their crimes) you need =
to
subtract<BR>> 50 points, and not consider dealing with them<BR>>=
unless there is some overwhelming reason to do<BR>> so. If the perso=
n was
involved in a crime that<BR>> did not involve moral turpitude or
violence<BR>> (i.e.: drunk driving, disorderly conduct, etc)<BR>>=
then
perhaps subtract only 15 points. Now, on the<BR>> other hand if the =
TSCM
appears to be a good<BR>> citizen, with no criminal histories then t=
hey
get only a positive 10 points.<BR>><BR>> Paranoids - Usually has=
knowledge of security<BR>> because of an anti-establishment, paranoi=
d
or<BR>> criminal mind-set, which compels them to<BR>> constantly =
look
over their shoulder. Of course,<BR>> the government is constantly
harassing them, has<BR>> their phones taped, has video cameras in
their<BR>> house, and has legions of agents employed just to<BR>>=
harass them specifically. They will sometimes<BR>> rant on about
government mind control, biological<BR>> implants, electronic harass=
ment,
and so on. In<BR>> some cases they have written books or
articles,<BR>> but the materials is published only in very<BR>> n=
arrow
channels, or by paramilitary or fringe<BR>> publishers. Very often, =
they
will hear voices in<BR>> their head, and/or be able to convince othe=
r
that<BR>> they too are hearing voices or seeing visions. If<BR>> =
they
are hearing voices, seeing visions, or claim<BR>> to have any kind, =
of
"special powers", you should<BR>> subtract 30 or more points. If the=
y
seem like a<BR>> normal and rational person they get zero points,<BR=
>>
but if they are "professionally cautious" add a<BR>> few positive po=
ints
as TSCM experts operate in a<BR>> world where they assume that a pla=
ce is
bugged<BR>> until scientifically proven otherwise, they are<BR>> =
not
paranoid, but more accurately are in touch<BR>> with the eavesdroppi=
ng
threat. To be awarded +10<BR>> point the TSCM expert should be
cautious,<BR>> careful, and delicate with the project, but<BR>> s=
hould
not act "crazy", and should make you feel more secure, and not
fearful.<BR>><BR>> Police - When a TSCM expert enters the<BR>>=
profession, they hopefully come with a multitude<BR>> of prior
experience, some have a technical<BR>> background, and some have lit=
tle
or no technical<BR>> background. Sadly, there are quite a few
retired<BR>> or fired members of the law enforcement or<BR>>
intelligence community who try their hands at<BR><BR>=== message =
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