Re: [TSCM-L] {2093} Re: The "P-Levels" - Draft Version, Please comment

From: Julie White <toofa..._at_yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:15:08 -0800 (PST)
I am a single mom in desperate need of HELP. And cant get the police to help or any one else unless you have lots of money.This is criminal itsself...I am being stalked by my X he is using electroncs and only god knows what but this is unreal!He has something in my bathroom and shower around all the windows in my home so i can hear him degrade me and humiliate me only when noone is around.Now every one thinks i am crazy and cant get any help as it has kept me from working for so long i have almost lost every thing i own even my 1999 harley davidson that i refuse to part with.This would make his day and this is what he wants...PLEASE, Does anyone do pro bono sweeps in the puyallup, wa area.This could make a perfect movie I swear.ITS BEEN AN ONGOING NIGHTMARE>>>JULIE   toofa..._at_yahoo.com   If ypu can even get me an e-mail as he deletes them usually.My cell # is253-205-5721.PLEASE HELP.YOU WOULD BE RITCH IN SURVAILENCE EQUIPTMENT>>>>I PROMISE.

TSCM <a..._at_hotmail.com> wrote:

James,

Good job! Is well written with a lot of thought and detail involved
very nice guide.thank you!!

Mike

On Oct 30, 8:28 pm, "James M. Atkinson" wrote:
> The following "Applicant Questionares" is going
> live on my website on Wednesday night, and I
> drastically need a couple of you to read it over
> and see if there is anything that needs to be corrected or explained better.
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> -jma
>
> Recommended Gold List Questions
> Levels of TSCM Legitimacy - The "P-Levels"
>
> The following is a list of private TSCM firms who
> specialize in "bug sweeps" and wiretap detection
> and who have legitimate TSCM training,
> credentials, and equipment (and are very well respected within the industry).
>
> While most TSCM specialists are available for
> travel outside of a specific geographic area they
> tend to avoid such engagements, or will limited
> the services to vulnerability analysis,
> pre-construction assistance, non-instrumented
> inspections, simple RF checks, in-place
> monitoring, or limited TSCM services involving
> only a briefcase sized in-place monitoring system
> (such as a single spectrum analyzer, MSS, Eagle,
> ScanLock OSCOR, SPECTRE, ROSE, RAPHAEL, or similar system).
>
> These private TSCM firms tend to operate in a
> specific geographic area limited to a few hundred
> miles (usually within a eight to twelve hour, one
> day vehicle drive). However, all of the TSCM
> firms listed here are available for travel
> anywhere in the United States or the World on
> short notice, but only provide limited services
> when operating outside of their normal coverage
> area. These coverage area limitations is due to
> the logistics involved in transporting hundreds
> and often thousands of pounds of sophisticated,
> highly sensitive laboratory grade electronic
> instruments, equipment and tools. Bug sweeps and
> wiretap detection involves the use of ladders,
> pole climbing equipment, LAN analyzers, X-ray
> systems, specialized antennas and other
> equipment, which is not easily, transported by
> airplane or by any method other then trucks. In a
> few cases, the TSCM specialist can respond to any
> location within a 2 or 3-day drive with a truck
> which contains an entire mobile electronics laboratory.
>
> TSCM firms also tend to restrict their operations
> to a specific geographic area to facilitate an
> expert level of knowledge regarding the RF
> environment, construction methods used, community
> zoning, population demographics, civil
> engineering, aeronautic or maritime facilities,
> local military bases, and related areas.
> Knowledge of such regional information is
> critical for a successful TSCM project. The TSCM
> specialist must also have an intimate knowledge
> of the telephone systems, engineering methods,
> fiber optics, major cable locations, central
> office switches, test numbers, and related
> communications infrastructure present or being
> used in an area (which tends to be regional).
>
> An understanding of what types of eavesdropping
> devices, methods, and frequencies which are being
> used in an area is also important, as is
> knowledge of what type of surveillance equipment
> is being sold within that region (and other
> areas). The TSCM Procedural and Protocols Guides
> used by a specialist also tend to be based on
> specific issues and variables present in that
> specific geographic area. On a more interesting
> note, many of these firms are located in, or near
> major maritime port cities or population centers.
> The heaviest concentrations are around major
> cities on the East and West coasts with a very
> limited presence in the Mid-West, Great Plains,
> and Rockies. If you were in the Mid-West, Great
> Plains, or Rockies area you would need to engage
> a TSCM firm from one of the major port cities.
> For example, customers in Chicago, St. Louis,
> Memphis, Denver, Salt Lake City, Minneapolis,
> Billings, etc. would need to fly a TSCM
> specialist in from Boston, New York, Washington
> DC, Los Angles, Lexington, or Seattle.
>
> Please be patient when contacting any TSCM firm,
> as if they are out serving a client they may not
> be able to return your call for several hours.
> Rates generally are non-negotiable and reflect
> the cost of the sweep practitioner's time,
> considerable investment in equipment acquisition
> and maintenance, several weeks of in-service
> training a year, travel, administrative and
> communications time and expense to coordinate the
> sweep and written report, and a fair profit for
> their services. It is very unwise to shop for
> sweeps by using price as a criterion as it only
> invites being ripped off. Legitimate TSCM
> professionals are not interested in, nor will
> they engage in negotiating for a lower price.
> When you contact persons on this list, you are
> talking with someone in the same league as an
> attorney or surgeon, not a salesman. In fact,
> most of the people listed on this page have more
> time in their specialized training than do most
> attorneys or medical professionals. Anything
> beyond an initial 15-minute phone call usually
> will be billable time. Attorneys and doctors do
> not consult free, and neither do legitimate TSCM
> specialists. If a potential client calls with a
> long list of questions not pertaining directly to
> hiring the practitioner, or wants to know how to
> do his own sweep, or wants to know how to use the
> sweep kit he purchased on his own, expect to pay
> an hourly rate or $250 in advance for consulting
> services. If you are considering engaging (or
> have already engaged) a TSCM firm and they are
> not listed in the following directory you would
> do well to immediately ask some awkward
> questions. It is also important you understand
> that legitimate services by a competent TSCM firm
> rarely start at less then several thousand
> dollars for even a basic sweep, and a proper
> sweep take days, not hours to complete. Keep in
> mind that there only a small number of legitimate
> and competent TSCM counterintelligence
> specialists or "Bug Sweepers" in the U.S. private
> sector. Legitimate TSCM firms are in very high
> demand, hard to find, and expensive; so be
> patient when trying to find one to help you. In
> addition, TSCM firms are not attorneys and cannot
> tell you whether it is legal or illegal for you
> to monitor your own phones. Always call a
> competent licensed attorney for legal advice.
>
> Magic Formula
> Technical Background - Cube this
> Formal Technical Training (1200 hours, every 5 years) - Square This
> Equipment and Tools - Cube This
> Basic Equipment/Tools
> Intermediate Equipment/Tools
> Advanced Equipment/Tools
> Vehicles (halve this)
> Basic Vehicle
> Intermediate Vehicle
> Advanced Equipment - DOT/CDL
> Honesty and Integrity - Divided by all
>
> Square root of
> (Tech3+TechTraining2+Tools+TestEquipment3+.5Vechiles) /Honesty
>
> You use the list like this. You assign each of
> the P-Levels a score between negative numbers and
> positive ten, essentially adding or subtracting
> points up to ten either way depending on how each
> of the attribute apply to the person you are
> talking to. In a few cases, you can subtract more
> then ten points for issues that provide areas of significant concern.
>
> You would hope that the person or company you are
> considering performing a TSCM project would
> attain a perfect score as that means the person
> is very legitimate and professional and that you
> feel that none of the negative attributes or
> levels apply to them, but in reality such, a
> score is impractical. Nobody is perfect, and
> anybody who appears to be perfect should
> certainly be viewed with caution and a healthy dose of skepticism.
>
> Professional - A true blue, died in the wool
> security expert with years of RELEVANT experience
> and background in their specific area of
> expertise. He will "walk the walk and talk the
> talk", and have the scars to prove it. This
> person will own all the necessary equipment,
> hundred of books (some of which he wrote or
> contributed to), a large number of original web
> pages or white papers on the subject. He (or she)
> will seek to illuminate the subject matter, and
> will be able to explain very complex topics in
> terms the non-technical public or layman can
> understand and is comfortable is discussing the
> matter without pushing their services too much
> (they let you come to them, and never gets
> pushy). If they are very professional they get
> +10 points, if they seem a little rough around
> the edges give them +7, but start dropping points
> as you get more uncomfortable with their
> professionalism. If they are rough around the
> edges, or just a little too pushy to get your
> business then award them zero points, and if they
> really get pushy or seem desperate for your
> business then start subtracting points quickly.
>
> Pretender - Similar to the above professional but
> has irrelevant or bogus credentials. They may
> talk the talk, but cannot walk the walk (nor have
> the scars). Will talk a good game, but generally
> lacks legitimate equipment, materials, or
> training. He often has not written a book but
> will often plagiarize others (and claim it as his
> own work). If the "pretender" has an online
> presence or web page, it is full of hype,
> rhetoric, and paranoia (but little science). He
> is quite capable of totally baffling customers,
> but cannot explain things in a non-technical way
> (or without hyping surveillance technology to
> death). In this case you start by awarding them
> -10 points, and as they convince you that they
> are legitimate you slowly start adding points up
> to as much as a +10 points. Very often the
> pretender will be someone who retired from
> government service with honorable service, but
> who lacks the technical background to perform a
> competent sweep, and thus pretend to know what
> they are doing. In many cases, the pretender
> actually has themselves convinced that they can
> do a good job, but sometimes their inabilities
> lead then into the next category.
>
> Putz - This is nothing more then a buffoon.
> Generally he does not know how to do the job, has
> virtually no equipment, training, or resources
> (but tries hard). He may or may not be honest,
> and may actually believe that he is competent. He
> may have a few technical toys, and may have a
> week or two of training in electronics,
> surveillance, and security (all in one). In this
> case, you start by awarding them -10 points, and
> as they convince you that they are not a putz you
> slowly start adding points up to as much as a +10 points.
>
> Parasite - This type leaches off of the
> credibility of others, generally has no
> expertise, knowledge, or training of their own in
> what they are offering. Usually someone like this
> walks and talks like a salesman, and they love to
> run their mouth about all the people they know.
> Name-dropping is an art form to the parasite. The
> parasite may be detected by the way they rattle
> off a list of references, customers, or contacts
> before anybody has really asked for them. He will
> usually be desperate to prove to you how
> legitimate he is right from the very beginning of
> your contact with them. You start them with zero
> points, and gain or loose points as you feel
> appropriate. The parasite is the consummate
> salesmen, but not an actual sweep person. One
> rule of the TSCM profession is that you never
> talk about your customers, so someone who is
> trying to impress you with who they know or is
> name-dropping is a parasite who is trying to
> impress you, and in turn, you should not trust
> them, and score the parasite accordingly. Start
> with awarding zero points, and each time they
> name drop or mention a company name with whom
> they have performed sweep work subtract 3 points,
> up to 30 points. If on the other hand the TSCM
> expert does not mention his customers award 3
> points, then ask for references, and then when he
> declines to provide references award 3 more
> points (or if they give you references subtract 6
> points). Next, you want to aggressively pressure
> them for client names, and for references, and
> then if at this point (under pressure) they keep
> their mouth shut you add 6 points, or if they
> give in and breach their client privacy, you
> subtract 6 points. There is nothing wrong with
> being involved in sales, but in the TSCM
> business, a "sales push" or pushing to close the transaction is a liability.
>
> Predator - This type is pure evil and the only
> reason they are involved in security is to
> victimize the customer. The predator is only
> interested in backstabbing, theft, betrayal, or
> harming the client in a serious way. The only
> reason this type of person is involved in TSCM or
> the security industry is to ferret out their
> customers secrets so they can be exploited for
> scams or for criminal purposes. If this person
> gives you even the slightest hint of being, a
> criminal hit them with -100 points and let them
> work their way out of it. Now, do not confuse
> someone who hunts spies for a living for someone
> who performs eavesdropping for a living, or
> someone who is a professional criminal who preys
> upon his client. A true TSCM expert is hunting
> spies and bugs, and is not preying off their
> client, they do not hunt the spy directly, but
> rather hunt the spies' technical toys (it is a
> subtle, but important difference).
>
> Poison - He has nothing good to say about anybody
> except himself and his associates and tends to be
> bitter against everybody around him. When
> questioned about his own credentials he will lash
> out at his competitors with personal attacks
> (instead of discussing his own credentials). This
> type is easily identified after five minutes of
> talking, and they have not said one thing
> specifically regarding their own merit,
> equipment, or credentials. It is easy to figure
> this one out and to award or subtract points
> either way. If this person only slightly lashes
> out against others it may be that, he has a
> backbone, but is not actually toxic. Be careful
> here and only subtract points if this person is
> hardcore in his angst and bitterness. Hint: Most
> TSCM folks have a strong moral backbone, and have
> a strong sense of fairness and of what are right
> and wrong. Most TSCM professionals will be
> strongly biased against eavesdroppers, felons, or
> wrong doers, and this bias should result in
> points being awarded as you discuss just "how
> white his hat is". On the other hand, if the TSCM
> expert is bitter against others, but cannot
> specifically tell you why, then you should
> subtract points. Also, be wary of any TSCM expert
> who is overly complementary towards other people
> as this may indicate a potential parasite.
>
> Puffer Fish - Typically, he has little or no
> credentials of his own, but knows all of the
> industry lingo and jargon. He will claim to be
> the president of a huge corporation with scores
> of employees, tens of millions in assets when in
> fact this type is a penniless mooch who is still
> living with their parents. If not living with his
> parents his (or her) spouse will be the primary
> breadwinner in the family, their primary income
> (and references) will be from close friends or
> family. Listen very carefully for any hint as to
> where the seed money came from for them to start
> their business, as you may find that a rich
> family member bought them the equipment and has
> been subsidizing their TSCM activities. Often
> this type is also a pretender and bumbling putz.
> Listen for any hint of grandiosity or of what
> this person is going to do in the future, versus
> what they have actually done in the past. Dream
> and aspirations are important; delusions and
> illusions are not and should be graded accordingly.
>
> Psychiatrist Bait - These people are really
> nothing more then con artists who will ramble on
> for hours with wild tales of how they were a Navy
> SEAL, covert CIA operative, undercover FBI agent,
> won the Congressional Medal of Honor, was a POW,
> won the war, and so on. They could tell you about
> their credentials, but then they would have to
> kill you. Often they will offer credentials,
> which at first appear real, but cannot be
> confirmed, or is suspect in another way. They
> will offer credentials that cannot be verified by
> their own admission. "It's too secret" Ask
> questions, get specific answers, grade as you
> feel is appropriate. However, step carefully, as
> many TSCM people will not discuss a great deal of
> their background initially, so this level should
> be considered in regards to initial contact. If
> the person sounds and talks a little crazy
> initially then subtract points, but if they seem
> sane and coherent then add points. Do not get too
> carried away on this issue though. Always
> remember that the TSCM person is grading you as a
> customer as well, and may not be too keen on
> disclosing too much about their background until
> they get to know you better, so this is a two way street.
>
> Phelons (or Felon) - This group is a real problem
> within the security business. Many con artists,
> felons, and dirt-bags try to capitalize on their
> criminal skills by claiming to be able to catch
> other criminals. Usually their only credential
> (which can be verified) is the criminal
> conviction. Often this type will claim to be a
> convicted hacker and computer expert when in fact
> he was convicted of arson, or of being a drug
> dealer, is a psychiatric patient, and is
> incapable of recovering his own hard drive or of
> performing the most simplistic of technical
> tasks. The few cases where the conviction was
> relevant to their field will not set your mind at
> ease about their now "reformed" status. Now this
> gets a tricky because if you become reasonably
> convinced that you are talking to a felon (or
> they brag of their crimes) you need to subtract
> 50 points, and not consider dealing with them
> unless there is some overwhelming reason to do
> so. If the person was involved in a crime that
> did not involve moral turpitude or violence
> (i.e.: drunk driving, disorderly conduct, etc)
> then perhaps subtract only 15 points. Now, on the
> other hand if the TSCM appears to be a good
> citizen, with no criminal histories then they get only a positive 10 points.
>
> Paranoids - Usually has knowledge of security
> because of an anti-establishment, paranoid or
> criminal mind-set, which compels them to
> constantly look over their shoulder. Of course,
> the government is constantly harassing them, has
> their phones taped, has video cameras in their
> house, and has legions of agents employed just to
> harass them specifically. They will sometimes
> rant on about government mind control, biological
> implants, electronic harassment, and so on. In
> some cases they have written books or articles,
> but the materials is published only in very
> narrow channels, or by paramilitary or fringe
> publishers. Very often, they will hear voices in
> their head, and/or be able to convince other that
> they too are hearing voices or seeing visions. If
> they are hearing voices, seeing visions, or claim
> to have any kind, of "special powers", you should
> subtract 30 or more points. If they seem like a
> normal and rational person they get zero points,
> but if they are "professionally cautious" add a
> few positive points as TSCM experts operate in a
> world where they assume that a place is bugged
> until scientifically proven otherwise, they are
> not paranoid, but more accurately are in touch
> with the eavesdropping threat. To be awarded +10
> point the TSCM expert should be cautious,
> careful, and delicate with the project, but
> should not act "crazy", and should make you feel more secure, and not fearful.
>
> Police - When a TSCM expert enters the
> profession, they hopefully come with a multitude
> of prior experience, some have a technical
> background, and some have little or no technical
> background. Sadly, there are quite a few retired
> or fired members of the law enforcement or
> intelligence community who try their hands at

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