Re: [TSCM-L] Re: Thermal Camera Safety Check from Its from Onion on 2006-12-22 (file.mbox)

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yes kaiser 2030a probe w/1059,cpm-700 ,spectrum analyzer and the list goe's on.

 dan
 taylor group

Its from Onion <areda..._at_msn.com> wrote:


Is there any way to detect a carrier-current signal?
thanks

>From: "James M. Atkinson"
>Reply-To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
>To: TSCM-L
>Subject: [TSCM-L] Thermal Camera Safety Check
>Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:23:13 -0500
>
>
>
>Anytime you are performing a TSCM inspection always pull the cover off of
>the circuit breaker panel that services the area which you are inspecting,
>and visually check the inside box for any kind of eavesdropping device, but
>also check the box for any kind of RF, Video, or Carrier Current riding on
>any of the wiring (do this extremely carefully).
>
>Then, take your thermal viewer and look at the front of each breaker, and
>then the side of each breaker where the wire goes into the breaker and is
>secured. Also check the main lug where all of the power panel, the neutral
>rail, and finally the ground connection. Finish the inspection by viewing
>the first few feet of electrical as it leaves the box as well.
>
>If you do not have a full-fledged thermal viewer/camera then at least use a
>small digital thermometer to see if you have any hot breakers.
>
>Since you have to get into the breaker panels to inspect for bugs, or at
>least SHOULD be getting into the breaker panels to look for bugs you have a
>responsibility to the client to observe safety related problems in regards
>to the things that you touch during your inspection. If you touch the
>breaker panel, and you end up being the last person to touch the breakers
>just prior to their house/office going up in flame you are going to have
>some issues.
>
>ALWAYS, check the client breakers with a some kind of thermal imaging
>device if you touch the breaker panel at all. However, this assumes that
>the client has engaged you for enough time to perform a proper TSCM
>inspection and that they don't have you scheduled for a day or less for the
>whole building.
>
>Also, use an ultrasonic stethoscope to listen for any arcing from the
>breakers, but don't get too close to the breakers as most ultrasonic probes
>are conductive or quasi-conductive you don't want to use the probe to
>create a path to ground for 240 volts or more. If you do have also breakers
>you will clearly hear then in the headphones of the ultrasonic stethoscope.
>On a related note, it is pretty easy to build an ultrasonic probe for the
>CPM-700, so if your technically gifted and don't mind spending $25 in parts
>you can build your own. [Hint, for optimal performance take the output the
>ultrasonic probe, and use it to modulate a 50 MHz carrier, which you then
>feed into the CPM-700 antenna jack].
>
>Should you observe any fault wiring or breakers you are duty bound to
>inform the customer of this, and of the safety implications of the problem.
>
>You should also keep a record in the form of some kind of hard-copy of the
>video of what you find and attach it to the report, and if possible see if
>the electrician left his label/card/sticker on the panel so you know to be
>extra suspicion of his/their work in the future.
>
>-jma
>
>
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<div>yes kaiser 2030a probe w/1059,cpm-700 ,spectrum analyzer and the list goe's on.</div> <div> </div> <div>dan</div> <div>taylor group Its from Onion <ared..._at_msn.com> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> Is there any way to detect a carrier-current signal? thanks >From: "James M. Atkinson" <JM..._at_TSCM.COM> >Reply-To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com >To: TSCM-L <TSCM-..._at_GOOGLEGROUPS.COM> >Subject: [TSCM-L] Thermal Camera Safety Check >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:23:13 -0500 > > > >Anytime you are performing a TSCM inspection always pull the cover off of >the circuit breaker panel that services the area which you are inspecting, >and visually check the inside box for any kind of eavesdropping device, but >also check the box for any kind of RF, Video, or
Carrier Current riding on >any of the wiring (do this extremely carefully). > >Then, take your thermal viewer and look at the front of each breaker, and >then the side of each breaker where the wire goes into the breaker and is >secured. Also check the main lug where all of the power panel, the neutral >rail, and finally the ground connection. Finish the inspection by viewing >the first few feet of electrical as it leaves the box as well. > >If you do not have a full-fledged thermal viewer/camera then at least use a >small digital thermometer to see if you have any hot breakers. > >Since you have to get into the breaker panels to inspect for bugs, or at >least SHOULD be getting into the breaker panels to look for bugs you have a >responsibility to the client to observe safety related problems in regards >to the things that you touch during your inspection. If you touch the
 >breaker panel, and you end up being the last person to touch the breakers >just prior to their house/office going up in flame you are going to have >some issues. > >ALWAYS, check the client breakers with a some kind of thermal imaging >device if you touch the breaker panel at all. However, this assumes that >the client has engaged you for enough time to perform a proper TSCM >inspection and that they don't have you scheduled for a day or less for the >whole building. > >Also, use an ultrasonic stethoscope to listen for any arcing from the >breakers, but don't get too close to the breakers as most ultrasonic probes >are conductive or quasi-conductive you don't want to use the probe to >create a path to ground for 240 volts or more. If you do have also breakers >you will clearly hear then in the headphones of the ultrasonic stethoscope. >On a related note, it is
pretty easy to build an ultrasonic probe for the >CPM-700, so if your technically gifted and don't mind spending $25 in parts >you can build your own. [Hint, for optimal performance take the output the >ultrasonic probe, and use it to modulate a 50 MHz carrier, which you then >feed into the CPM-700 antenna jack]. > >Should you observe any fault wiring or breakers you are duty bound to >inform the customer of this, and of the safety implications of the problem. > >You should also keep a record in the form of some kind of hard-copy of the >video of what you find and attach it to the report, and if possible see if >the electrician left his label/card/sticker on the panel so you know to be >extra suspicion of his/their work in the future. > >-jma > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > World
Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and >Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 > Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467
> 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 E-mail: mailto:jm..._at_tscm.com >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > We perform bug sweeps like it's a contact sport; we don't play fair, we > take no prisoners, and we give no quarter. Our goal is to stop the spy. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >> </BLOCKQUOTE> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Y
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