I used a dumper, and the file came out as a .bin file . I need to know how to change it from a bin to dmp, se or dat file
thank you

Rename it?

Have Phun

It depends how you are going to use the dump. One dump file from IceExt can be processed with an app in its tools directory called SiwRender, to convert it to a jpeg (or bmp??), but that's for a screen dump. With that, you are trying to reproduce what you saw on the screen, possibly so you could post it for discussion.

If you gave a better description of how you intend to use the dump, it would help to give you an answer. Did you dump code, or data, or was it a screen dump? If you want to print the dump out, you will probably have to reformat it by hand.

what version of the dumper do you use ?

if you use v0.93 build 7004 then you probably will have to buy a new cpu otherwise the dump will be corrupted.
if you use a version above v0.93 then do it like aimless suggested just rename it and it will work

super duper regards,

papi

@jmi: i would suggest that in future it will be not allowed to ask for the functionality of any dongle dumper out there. i realized that a big amount of the new questions are related to "how do i use dongle dumper XYZ ? its really serious please help because i'm a cracker too". this really sucks. this is not a support forum for stupid user of a certain application.

I'm sorry I don't remember what program I used to get the dump with. Maybe it was sentread. I just want to use the dump to emulate a dongle. I have 3 different emulators ,but none of them uses a .bin file. Some post have talked about a program called edgepro, and searching doesn't come up with much results. I'm not a cracker
at all nor do I claim to. be I just want to use a program that I paid 3 grand for on two seperate computers.

thank you

Install the program on computer A. Attach dongle to computer A. Now you can use the program from computer A.
Remote Desktop from computer B to computer A. Now you can use the program from computer A and computer B.
Problem solved.

computer A is in a shop and is not networked

Man...

stric9:

While it's clear you are not a "cracker," it's also clear that you haven't actually READ THE FRIGGIN FAQ!!! Since you are "not a cracker" you clearly don't have any understanding of anything about what you are attempting to do, beyone the fact that you want someone here to tell you whatever you may need to know to permit you to use a program which requires a dongle on more than one machine. In other words, what you "really" want is someone to hand you the means to defeat the dongle requirement of a program you say your purchased so you can use it in a manner which the dongle was intended to prevent.

Not only does it appear that you didn't bother to read anything about our Rules, as described in the FAQ, it also appears that even with some information, you wouldn't be able to do anything with what you were told unless someone was to give you a step-by-step guide on how to actually do what you say you want to do. Unfortunately, that is NOT what we do here and if you have neither the time, or the interest, or the talent, or the patience to learn some of these complex processes and procedures, than this is not the place where you may expect help.

Unless you can show US that you have and are willing to show US that YOU have made a significant effort to help yourself, you are wasting both your time and ours looking for a solution to YOUR problem here.

Now go actually READ THE FAQ before you post again, and do not post again unless you are prepared to do significant work on your own to solve your own problem.

Regards,

I'm sorry that the post seemed like I was asking for a hand out, but after all of the forums, websites, and tuts I have went through I am at my end. I hardly ever post, and I love to try and help myself. The only forum I found that listed my problem people just fixed for every one instead of helping solve the problem. I have the programs I need to do the emulation, and even the program I need to convert my file, but the only copy I could find was in Chinese. Just need a nudge in the right direction. Again sorry for the post.

I'm sorry if I pile up:
Learning RCE (cracking) on your own, which is what we attempt to do here, just to avoid paying extra 3000, the price of a second dongle is actually very bad deal from the economical point of view.
The time, effort and risk you take is worth far more money than that amount you'd pay for an extra license. The promise of "free" software is also a smoke mirror: The innumerable warez market in the web and P2P networks makes RCE -Do it Your Self- approach, time expensive and risky.

For instance, networking your purported "A computer" could be done for less than 100 dollars.
There are Dongle emulation Cracking services web sites (Based in the old Soviet Union) that probably could work for you. I have not used them, but CrackZ, an expert in the field, wrote here some years ago that their services and prices were decent. . .
Also the fact that some program you found has instructions in Chinese is not an unsurmountable problem: Try a web based translator, while not perfect, may give you a clear idea of the contents of the instructions.

Also keep in mind that dongle emulators are rather brand, version, and software implementation specific: Dongle designers are always tracking the inner workings of such "emulators" and implementing countermeasures.
Without foul mouthing the talent and good will of emulator authors, and also having tested only a few of them over the years, I would be surprised if emulators worked for more than a a handful of specific instances and software versions, I doubt that dongle dumper/emulators are a universal fix-all solution for hardware based security.

This is the second post I've seen here recently where posters had big bucks to splash out on software that required a dongle. I tried to help earlier in the thread but I could not understand what the poster was getting at. From now on, I wont respond to anyone who hasn't read the FAQ and who hasn't explained what they have done to help themselves. I'm a little suspicious that maybe we are being baited. Anyone asking for advice on dongles in the future should have to answer skill testing questions.

One other point: I refuse to use software that requires a dongle.

There's a parallel in the disk drive rip off sector I have documented elsewhere on this site. Disk drives use a form of BIOS which is stored partly in an eeprom chip and partly in a special sector on the disk drive that is inaccessable to user software. A disk drive can fail because one bit is wrong on that system memory, and that usually happens when power is inadvertantly removed while the drive is in a write state. Back it up!!

It would be quite easy to revive many disk drives if the manufacturers, such as Maxtor, would release the bios, along with software to reinstall it. They wont!! I tried with Maxtor and they gave me every dumb excuse available. I even pointed out how they are leaving users vulnerable to the greedy sharks who advertise themselves as data recovery experts. Many are plain hackers who haven't the slightest clue how to recover data. For that reason, I have boycotted Maxtor. I know the rest are probably just as bad, but my experience was with Maxtor and I can't stand their way of carrying on.

In Russia, there's a company that offers software to interrogate the BIOS on hard drives with the hope of reviving a dead drive. In Russia, that software is reasonably priced...I think it's a few hundred dollars. Unfortunately, they have made deals with black-hearted capitalists in the States who charge around $10,000 US for the same software. The software uses a dongle, but there is a hacked version for the more enterprising. Unfortunately, again, certain features of recovery require a PCI board. Also, getting the correct BIOS for the drive is hard to come by.

As naides said above, the job being discussed in this thread can be done cheaper. There is music software available for digital recording, and one of the top brands is Pro Tools by Digidesign. It uses a proprietary PCI card, which to me, is their version of a dongle. Many people slobber over Pro Tools because many professional studios use it. The point is that professional recordings can be made with a Soundblaster Audigy and software that can be either bought for a few hundred, or found on the net. If a person wants to splash out $3000, that's up to him/her. Anyone with a bit of imagination and drive can do the same thing for far less.

I wish I could have came out cheaper, but this software is designed for a certain type of business. There are only a handfull of software designed for my company, and they are priced around the same.

The pirating of this software has no use to anyone. The program is used to run a type of machinery It also does designs, but I would have to take the machine offline to redesign something. Thats why I need it on a second computer. The software company knows this so they offer another dongle for $250 I think thats wrong. Oh and I wish I could network the other computer but it is made just for that machine its just not possible. I'm sorry if it seems that I am baiting anyone. I'm still trying to do this myself I'm not giving in,but since my post is against the faq please close

thanks

I wish you learn how to qoute...

stric9:

The type of program you describe is not unknown here and there actually could be others who frequent these Forums who might actually be familiar with such software. The issue is NOT that you want to figure out how to use the software on a second machine without the dongle, or that such a topic is not open for discussion here. The issue is over whether you had actually READ THE FAQ and followed it's guidelines.

They required you to tell us about what YOU had attempted to solve your problem, and "our" problem with your post(s) was that you did not do this in your initial offerings, hence you got a response from me.

It seems to me that you are failing completely to look at your problem "logically." If we can believe what you have written, you have everything you need, except the program you want to run is in "chinese" and you could apparently eliminate your problem if you were willing to give the company another $250, after already paying "3 grand" for the original.

So, I ask you again, what the heck have you been doing so solve YOUR problem? First, I recognize the resistence to paying over good money after a huge investment in the previous one, but you have already invested way more than $250 worth of time and agrivation in seeking a "non-monitary" solution to your problem. Something to CAREFULLY consider, although there IS something to be said for persistence.

Second, why the hell haven't you been investigating programs which can translate Chinese or sought the assistance of someone who might actual know how to read the language already???

There is a program called "Systran" which can make fairly understandable English translations from chinese characters in both Traditional and Simplified Chinese. There is also a good possibility that the program you are using is also available in other languages, which a little creative searching might discover.

So you can give up and pay your $250 or you can start thinking "outside the box" about what you "really" need and where you might find the answers to "your' problem.

Regards,

Well the only thing I know to do is read. I have 3 different forums opened right now. I just go to search and type "dongle" and read every post that comes up. I'm getting more confused as I go.


It's not about the money. I just believe they are doing it because they can, and that may sound a little sinister,but I would probably do the same business is business. If I can get by without paying I will if I have to pay I will.

I have searched for such tools. Most of them I've came across is a copy and paste method, and I cant select the txt in the program. I will check out the software you mentioned. There is an english version of the software but please believe me after searching this is the only version I could find.

Again you are not being clear and not focusing on the issues you need to solve your problem.

As I understand your earlier post, you:

"have the programs (you) need to do the emulation, and even the program (you) need to convert (your) file, but the only copy (you) could find was in Chinese."

I assume you mean that the "only copy" of a "program" you could find to convert your ".bin ... to dmp, se or dat" has it's instructions in Chinese. Does it have written instructions, or are the instructions contained in the file?

If you run the program, do you see dialog boxes with instructions? And if you do, have you attempted to look at the program with a "resource viewer" and/or a Hex Editor to see if you can "capture" the instructions for possible translation?

Seems that "searching" for the word "dongle" without focusing your search to something particularly relevant to you issue is a monumental waste of time!

Regards,

As an offshoot... just *because* the program is protected with a dongle, does not mean you have to DUMP or EMULATE them. There are so many softwares using dongles that are cracked simply by nopping OR jz/jnz changes...

My hunch is that since this is not a COMMERCIAL protection for a HUGELY SUCCESSFUL PRODUCT, you may find the IMPLEMENTATION of the dongle is not upto par. In this circumstances, it is doubtful that there is CODE in the dongle that is needed to run your application. Most likely, it simply checks for the dongle, and *may* check for some response codes with a basic encryption such as XOR...

A good idea is to *pinpoint* the error message. As its an error message, it will be through the windows API MessageBoxA or MessageBoxW (or some other obscure MFC MsgBox calls...). Once you have pinpointed the same, try understanding WHY the box is getting triggered. Chances are - it simply does ALL the checks in a single function (bad move!) and returns OK/NOTOK. Then, its a simple matter of reversing the flags or nopping or altering jz/jnz/jg/jge etc...

Use of dongle emulator is recommended ONLY when you are SURE that there is APPLICATION CODE inside the dongle, barring which, the application cannot run as it cannot access the code! But dongles used to protect the number of tries, checking whether dongles are present or not, checking whether you can even RUN the application with/without the dongle, generally is a good sign that there is no APPLICATION CODE present in the dongle. All you need then is IDA, a pack of cigarettes and a rainy day. And you are in.

Emulations of dongles are not 100% perfect. Specially when they contain APPLICATION CODE *AND* are protected with commercial encryption (you think only DATA can be encrypted?). Add to that PACKING and UNPACKING ONLY in memory, with RANDOM location everytime an app is run, and the emulation is pretty much pushed to its limit.

Also, you are most welcome to ask any question on this board. But you should first show the ATTEMPT you have made to resolve this issue, FROM A REVERSING STANDPOINT. Dumped the file is not REVERSING. Understanding HOW a dump will work, whether your dongle only provides response codes or has APPLICATION CODE embedded, whether its encrypted AND packed and how you ATTEMPTED to resolve this issues, will help. Then we can help you. At the moment, inadverdently, it sounds like "Please crack this for me". You may not mean it, but without the reversing effort to back it up, it is exactly that.

So run your application though IDA and see what you can find. IDA's debugger ithing on is pretty good too, so don't underestimate it. What if its packed and encrypted? Not to worry, just continue and IDA will debug, decrypt and run each section in the debugger. If you are still not sure, you can read everything on www.hexblog.com (yes -- no one promised reversing would be easy -- and you have to learn on your own). So take some time, get familiar with reversing, read hexblogs (ALL posts) and attempt again.

Take all the hype about dongles with a pinch of salt. Remember, the dongle may be unbreakable, but the programmer programming the responses and implementing the dongle, is not.

Have Phun

Allowing the BIOS to be modified via software-only methods (as opposed to physcially ripping out the EEPROM) would most likely invalidate the drive's conformance with ATA standards. ATA standards require that modern HDs have certain security features, and being able to modify the BIOS would invalidate the security of those features.

Thank you Aimless for your post. That is exactly how my program works. Once opened I can remove the dongle and do everything in the program except run reports,and start a new job without plugging the dongle back in. You have gave me a whole new light on this project. Even though I have been reading, and trying out programs its still hard for me to wrap mt head around this stuff.

I don't want to hijack this thread so I'll keep this short. If you want to discuss this, we could start another thread in the off topic area.

I'm not talking about modifying the BIOS, I'm talking about repairing it to exactly the condition it was in before it was damaged. As I said, there are two parts to a hard disk BIOS: one part is in the EEPROM and the other is written to disk in a reserved sector called the service sector. That sector is not available to normal ATA commands and has to be accessed via lower level commands in DOS.

The BIOS portion on disk contains several sub-divisions of code, some of which are tables for aligning the servos, like the head positioning servo. If that code becomes corrupt, the disk wont even boot, even though the disk is electrically and mechanically OK. That's because the disk has it's own boot routine it goes through before the OS or ATA commands even come into the picture.

The ONLY way to revive such a disk, if it is revivable, is to rewrite those damaged sectors with the original BIOS code. That means getting exactly the right code. In one model of drive there can be several slightly different BIOS configurations. Also, the PCI plugin board is required for certain low-level drive examination and code replacement. So, it's not just a matter of finding the right software.

All in all, it would be much simpler and far cheaper to back up the drive regularly. Replacing a drive is nothing cost-wise compared to the aggravation of trying to recover precious data.