Hey all...I was just thinking about this the other day, but fravia+ is really quite a fascinating enigma...Before his "disappearence" (or rather, relocation and loss of interest in software), he was really the fuel behind the reverser scene...See, not only, during his time was reversing an art, but it was also a philosophy. He put real thought into it, and, while most of us do this, he PUBLISHED them...Now that he is gone, though we still have his old stuff, a lot of the fuel i feel is gone, and I begin to wonder, just exactly what it was that pulled him away from the software scene...His philosophies were so strong, too...

seemed like he just got bored with it all (which happens to many reversers after a long enough period of time)

anyone have any other opinions/facts?

Hi Guys from sunny M????? - Tsehp have you found the bar i'm in ?

I happened to 'find' Fravia site back in 1997
and started my apprenticeship from those early tuts. I got the message before I left for the desert in mid 1998 that Fravia
was sick to death of lamers and the direction the site was going. 'How to crack this target' just got too damn boring and it seemed that only a few took the clue to DIY and not read VERBATIM that this is the way or that is the way to crack. He started us off , showed us how to use the tools, gave us a 'code' of ideology (A level ) and let us get on with it. Not that i ever got in the +HCU - cos I never tried, too shy }>

Thanks Fravia - Even though he did not publish my tute on SeNTry2020 disk encryption...

See the geat names there. Like Frogs, who
described the Meltice trick, I think he did a bit of programming from this idea BUT I think he found out there is no vxd in NT4

ha well back to my Guinness.....

CYA soooon

SplAj

I'm not the one that knows Fravia the best, but we already have two meetings so we have to discuss this topic in the past.

You should not search behind his words or read between the lines when he spoke on the site of his september thoughts, he's got bored with rce and found that learning to search the internet is much more interesting.

Actually, there is some projects emerging from his site, common projects to search better the web, so you can browse his site and contact him, he's easy to find.

Disavowed says that some reversers get bored after a while, and I agree with this, but I wouldn't say bored, I'd like better to speak about evolution. To my part, this evolution means to improve my programming skills, especially in c++ so I could later move permanently to this, but like f+ staying behind the curtain.

Reverse engineering covers a large number of areas, and
cracking software protection is only part of it. Figuring
out what evil blocking programs like Cyberpatrol block,
searching out what aurate/radiate spyware is up to, or the
RealAudio sack lickers are up to are all part of reverse
engineering. It's by reverse engineering that many evils
are exposed.

I too learned much by visiting Fravia's site. I think
that maintaining the tradition of releasing essays should
be continued.

I do think that learning about searching is very important
too. There's lots of good information that's out there.

Tsehp: you're doing a great job by keeping the mirror going

can someone tell me +fravia's site?...is it the one at www.instinct.com/fravia ? i tried to download it once using HTTrack but it was MAJOR BIIIIG.
also im a newbie and i didnt find many newbie tutorials there (mostly very advanced articles) but i have to admit that +fravia's site is very very very professional and looks like the fuel for TRUE reversers these days.

thanks a lot.

Sure this place happens to be very active because of cracker's visits and contribution, I'll never treat them as they were criticized like it was on recent ida support msgboard, as long as those guys remains
ethical crackers. Ethical cracking means to follow some simple rules, never mass spread a cracked app but keeping it for yourself, and cracking means to make sometimes a lot of re efforts to understand how does work several software protections.

This msgboard is also opened to guys/concepts dealing with general rce and not applied to cracking software, but people dealing with such technology will not usually contribute a lot, exposing their names, to cracking related places. I made everything to gather everybody here, refusing only elitism and sarcastic people, bringing nothing to this community and discouraging newbies in their self-evolution.

fravia is still the same guy as before, with the same approaches and still writing such a good essays, only the main subject has changed :
he's not dwelling with code anymore but interested by the global internet and how to search inside, and the main changes is that you don't have anymore such humoritic and concise essays about general subjects written by me, just because I really suck into writing such masterpieces, I prefer to remain silent and keep on programming rce tools, that's much better ;-)