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OeDiFuZz
December 27th, 2000, 15:38
Hi guys,

I'm just another newbie interested i cracking. I have already downloaded +thesandman's tuts as well as the +orc's tuts and several other tuts from other crackers. And I still hunger for more knowledge thats why i joined this forum.

I hope i can learn a lot from you guys. I already did some cracking of my own with the aid of the tuts. Currently I'm trying to crack Hex Workshop v3.1 and... man it's really tough for a newbie like me. Anyway, thanks for letting me into your world of reverse engineering. Is Reverse Engineering and cracking the same?

?ferret
December 27th, 2000, 21:35
Welcome to the hobby :-)

...Are Reverse Engineering an Cracking the same?

......for the most part

This may just be my view, but I think we use reversing as a term to somewhat distinguish ourselves from "scene" crackers (many of whom don't test their cracks to see if they "really" work, just put out as many cracks as possible to get hits on their banner supported sites)

[There are many good scene crackers out there also, but the majority don't seem to take pride in their work]

JimmyClif
December 28th, 2000, 03:21
Dear ?ferret,

I am sorry but I have to say : "Objection" I think they do differ a lot.

Cracking merely consists of breaking software protections. I do see that we 'reverse' a protection scheme but cracking is only a little step in reversing.

Reversing is done when you analize a program to see how it is working, implementing additional functions, cleaning bugs, and such...

OeDiFuZz,
Have a look at a few reversing essais at +fravia's site to see the difference:
- Reversing W32Dasm by Harlequin
- Reversing Notepad by Neural Noise ( <-- excellent)
- Reversing FileMon by reverser
(& Last not least) @ http://qferret.cjb.net
- Kayakers FileMon essai....

Of course this is only my point of view.

Best regards,
JimmyC

OeDiFuZz
December 28th, 2000, 08:04
Thanks guys.

I'll check out the essays at +fravia's site.

Happy New Year to all of you!!!

?ferret
December 28th, 2000, 22:26
hehe.....got me there ;-)