I am using this rather old but sound book on DOS assembly programming, but I have encountered a problem... The book refers to CV or microsoft's CodeView that the book assumes comes with the system. Thing is, this doesn't exist for WinXP (or I am unaware). Anyone know if it is possible to get this from MS or a ripped version? If not, what version do I have to run? I would apreciate any help MS's site isn't much help... CVW is acceptable too

Hello,

Try getting Microsoft C v6.0/7.0 which I think is quite easy to find on the net.... CodeView is the debugger that comes with it.

One other solution may be to use the debugger of the watcom C++ (which is now open source). It can read the debug information in CodeView format and has much more functionality.

Turbo Debugger from borland is another option. It comes with Borland C++ or Borland Pascal products (for example, try finding Borland C++ 3.1; quite old but a very nice for 16 bit DOS developements)

Anyway for DOS, personally I'd go for the 32 bits and Watcom...

Regards
WARM3CH

Thanks planning on setting up VC++ 6 anywhays

No No No!

I said Microsoft C not Visual C++! These are different. Microsoft C is the "old" C/C++ compiler form microsoft and is a command line based tool that only supports 16 bit windows and DOS.

You can't write DOS programs with Visual C++ as it can only target win32 (and 64 bit...) and as far as I know, it's debugger can't debug DOS programs too...

the moral of the story: for DOS, you DOS based tools and for windows, windows

Hmmmm... I'll get searching, but after 30 mins I found nothing... I doubt it's as easy as you say, but I'll look. thanks for pointing out my misinterpretation

Well, I'm sure you can find it on the net....

And if you're interested, here is a link to Borland C++ 3.1 which includes that nice Turbo Debugger for DOS. (it can read codeview symbols too)

hxxp://www.infopub.co.kr/jungbo/pds/open/download.asp?rec_no=9&sub_no=0&dsp=2&lcnt=9&flg=detail&pdsid=1

Great! Thanks for the link, but I still need to search for CodeView... They use specific and detailed commands... Dunno if Turbo does the same...

Try here:

hxxp://www.filesearching.com/cgi-bin/s?q=CodeView&t=f&d=&l=en&x=15&y=15

which has many of them. I'm attempting to attach a copy. Ups. too big. Anyway can download copies of different flavors from this ftp.

Help files and instructions are everywhere on google.

Regards.

thank you for your help JMI, but it seems that these aren't microsoft's debugger called CodeView. None of them is What I'll probably do is try to rip it from win95 that I'll run in a Virtual PC. Thanks anywhays

Believe it or not but Microsoft got CodeView licensed from Numega. Kinda funny. I remember seeing that when I was playing around in good old C700 back in the day. Im like holy cow same guys make softice make codeview surprise surprise.

Snatch

Well, I sucessfully ripped it from Visual Studio 1.52! Works like a charm. Thanks all for the help

rather old m$ debugger,
still used in my uni though (did't they ever heard about SoftIce ??)

i can't attach CodeView since its kinda big, sorry,
if anyone want to know how it looks like (does anyone cares?) see attached pic.
ttl ben

Once upon a time a very wise person told me that if you aren't directly helping someone or aren't answering directly their question you probably shouldn't bother ;-).

This brings me nicely onto ..... The point of a CodeView screenshot is?, can you see what I'm getting at here.

Also, perhaps it is worth thinking just a little before posting your reply, I'm very sure universities have heard of SoftICE, however, since most universities when they buy in software desire multi-users access can you even begin to imagine how much $ SoftICE might just cost them and how economically unviable it might be for NuMega to offer big discounts (bearing in mind the relative size of the market here).

Sorry, I felt like whinging again ;-).

Regards

CrackZ.

settle down guys I "extracted" CodeView 4.10 from Visual C 1.45 so it's allright. I might even use Visual C to code dos appz in C someday... aparently it's a nice environment CodeView works fine with a custom batch ran first I'm on my way to education!