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December 10th, 2002, 01:45
I searched something at amazon.com and found this:
Crackproof Your Software (With CD-ROM) by Pavol Cerven
Did anybody read it? I think it is maybe interesting.
disavowed
December 10th, 2002, 04:03
after taking a quick look at an excerpt, it's good to see that it's not a marketing scam full of buzz-words, and that it actually has real technical stuff in it. to quote:
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ASPack’s decompression routines contain several jumps that are designed to confuse a cracker but which really present problems only for the inexperienced ones. For example, ASPack’s decoding routine contains only a few anti-debugging tricks. If a file is loaded into SoftICE’s Symbol Loader, the program will not stop at the beginning. However, once you find the beginning of the program, insert INT 3h or an equivalent there, and set the breakpoint to this INT, then run the program, it will stop right at the beginning. Or, you can load the program into ProcDump and change the characteristics for the .text section. Here you will probably find C0000040; change that to E0000020 and the program should always stop at the beginning in the SoftICE loader. (I’ll describe this more fully in Chapter 7.)
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however, i don't know how much any of us could really learn from it. it seems like it (naturally) is aimed towards a coder who has little-to-no experience in reversing. overall, it's probably quite a good book for a shareware coder, but a waste of time for any of us
disavowed
December 10th, 2002, 04:05
heh, woodmann, bug in vbulletin?

crUsAdEr
December 10th, 2002, 04:59
disavowed

... it is your quote VBcode, when using it you need to insert enter to break the line yourself.. :>
did u actually buy the book?
Kayaker
December 10th, 2002, 06:49
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Originally posted by disavowed
heh, woodmann, bug in vbulletin? |
Heh, no, CODE tags are CODE tags, if there's no CF/LR in the text it'll keep scrolling forever to the right until it falls off your screen and beyond. I removed the tags so the default word wrap now kicks in and we can all read it
Kayaker
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December 12th, 2002, 00:01
to disavowed:
Yes, maybe you are right and this book is not interesting for crackers, but do you know other book about this topic? I don't and then I bought it. Now I can tell (write), this book is pretty interesting. Many informations and all of them in one place. There are many anti-debug tricks and I can write, this book is something like bible
Ofcourse there isn't everythhing and some informations are out of date, but still it is pretty good book.
Btw: At CD is special version of PESHiELD registered for book

Zero
December 17th, 2002, 16:44
"Detecting Softice by calling INT 3h or 68h....."
well, if this is all this book can teaches us....
UrgeOverKill
December 25th, 2002, 05:15
Even though the info is pretty selective I've read it and its nice to have that info all in one book. I think $35.00 is well worth it and recommend it to any newbie who needs a good reference point.
Besides any book that mentions The Owl can't be all bad.

disavowed
March 25th, 2003, 11:04
http://ganzillo00.nm.ru/CrackproofYourSoftware_PavolCerven_pdf_en.rar
bart
March 25th, 2003, 13:43
The who?
ryan
March 26th, 2003, 09:12
It's a waste of money. If you know how to search, you will basically get every info there is in the book on the internet. There is nothing new. Hardly worth the money.
disavowed
March 26th, 2003, 10:53
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Originally posted by ryan
If you know how to search, you will basically get every info there is in the book on the internet. |
umm.. no need to search, i just posted the url above
nofurs
March 26th, 2003, 11:48
the link is Service Temporarily Unavailable
gonna find another one

Kilby
March 26th, 2003, 13:04
I will be kind and say that he must have researched the commercial games protections long before the book was written:
eg
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If you start a SecuROM−protected program from an original CD, you can dump it using the latest version of
ProcDump. While developers should consider this cracking possibility, it would be even better if SecuROM
itself concentrated on tackling this flaw.
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He also mentions Diablo 2 using securom
Well I hate to say this but for a very long time beforethe release of Diablo 2 procdump didn't dump securom files simply because all API calls pass through the securom decryptor.
Basically take all info in this with a very large pinch of salt.
Kilby...
r00t
April 1st, 2003, 00:22
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disavowed
April 1st, 2003, 16:47
no clue
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