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himanshu
March 9th, 2003, 08:24
hehe .. i just installed Directx 9 and now my debugging life is over. SICE crashes each time i press cntl-D.

So.......do not upgrade to dx 9 unless and until its neccesary. or wait for numega to come up with patch.

btw...ne one else tried installing dx9 on winxp ?? or is it just me ???

Aimless
March 9th, 2003, 10:51
Not at all.

It works for me (ICE v4.05) for WinNT.

Works for me on:

1. NT 4
2. 2K Server
3. XP Pro

Must be something else.

From your name...Indian?

Have Phun

squidge
March 9th, 2003, 12:27
Installed DX9 on WinXP Pro here with no problems, and sice still works.

evlncrn8
March 10th, 2003, 11:27
same here.. no dx9 probs at all

DooGie
March 15th, 2003, 15:10
No probs here either. Running XP Home & Driver Suite v2.7

Timbo
February 14th, 2004, 16:40
And UP
My Specs: XP SP1, AMD CPU, NFORCE2 MOBO, ATI 9500 GFX
DirectX with ATI is a pain, didn't work at all. OGL is ok.

Fullscreen : when i hit STRG D the Computer reboot's.
Windowed : it's ok no problem at all

I tried different Drivers (GFX/NFORCE), disabled Write Combining, disabled all in bios (Pentium OFF in Winice.dat), nothing seem to work.
If anyone is running a system like this (ATI-CRAP) without problems (DX9),
please be so kind enough to post your Driver Version (Cat) and/or Winice.dat.
Bios rev of the GFX Card would be also helpfull

nikolatesla20
February 14th, 2004, 17:46
Yes, I started having crashes after I installed new video card drivers, I would get a blue screen if I tried to start SoftICE.

I just re-installed SoftICE and it started working correctly again.

-nt20

Timbo
February 14th, 2004, 19:34
Quote:
[Originally Posted by nikolatesla20]Yes, I started having crashes after I installed new video card drivers, I would get a blue screen if I tried to start SoftICE.

I just re-installed SoftICE and it started working correctly again.

-nt20


Did it more than 20 times, fresh install of 1.xp, 2.sp1, 3.ati, 4.dx9, 5.softice
no problems except DIRECTX, tried different Resolution, different HZ,
different Rage3D Setting Tweaks, nothing really nothing helped.
Everytime in a DX-Fullscreen game pressing hotkey for SoftIce under XP
it's rebooting. (changed altkey, changed faults i3here i1here on/off )
No BSOD, no error report, just REBOOT
(edit Games are not protected (TRAOD,UT2003,UT2004 demo,)
(dxdiag fullscreen test !!!!! )

No Problem in DX window mode, no problem also under W9X
(same driver Type, same Softice ver$) and no Problems with OpenGL .
I gave it up (took too long time to install a really new runnung System)

It must be something else

eg. ATI-Hotkey manager(also disabled) or another GFX-Bios (swapped 5 times) or maybe even another keyboard (tried another PS2)

Tried Cpu overclock / underclock / FSB speed oc/uc, different ver$ of siwvid
Gfx underclock, no change , only reboot

A GeForce3 running fine, uninstalled ati driver, reboot with new card, installed new
GFX driver, reboot, Detect & Test with CompuW Setup Tool, reboot,
no problem with Nvidia's GFX in DX9 Fullsceen (ok sometimes window doesn't appear )


@nikolatesla20
DX version? , an Ati card ?

nikolatesla20
February 14th, 2004, 21:43
NVidia card (GeForce 440Bx), DX 9.1b

But truthfully I haven't run it during a game in a while, so who knows. I use windowed mode, but I haven't used SI during a game in a while.

-nt20

blob
August 23rd, 2004, 19:43
Hello everyone,
sorry to push this old threap up again but im still struggling with this problem.

Like other ppl already described in some threads softice works fine for me under xp as long as i dont try to use it during a fullscreen dx game. Just when i pressed down ctrl+d the screen gets black and my pc is rebooting (Got an ATI Radeon 9600 XT - Newest ATI Graphic Driver). After months of hopeless despair i wanted to give it another try and started playing around. So i disabled "Trap NMI" and "Disable mapping of non-present pages" as someone posted it once to give it a try. Also have Disabled Pentium support checked.

And then suddenly.. hurray.. Softice popuped in the dx adventure Broken Sword The Sleeping Dragon though it used to crash it. But it still seems to be pretty unstable because after a reboot it happens to still crash / reboot the pc.

But why im actually writing this post is because another problem i got. When Softice seems to run on this dx game i get back to Windows and start e.g. Warcraft3 or some other dx game and then *BANG* Softice popups up in FullScreen showing "Break due to Embedded Int 3". Now if i x; it just starts popping up again and again with "Break due to Embedded Int3" and i can only reboot my comp to get out of it.

Now what the hell does this mean?

omega_red
August 23rd, 2004, 19:59
Quote:
[Originally Posted by blob]But why im actually writing this post is because another problem i got. When Softice seems to run on this dx game i get back to Windows and start e.g. Warcraft3 or some other dx game and then *BANG* Softice popups up in FullScreen showing "Break due to Embedded Int 3". Now if i x; it just starts popping up again and again with "Break due to Embedded Int3" and i can only reboot my comp to get out of it.

Now what the hell does this mean?


You have "i3here on" in softice?

SpiderVenom
August 23rd, 2004, 20:55
My specs:

Pentium 4 2.4GHz
DirectX 9.0c (w SDK)
ATI Radeon 9500 Pro
Catalyst 4.8
Windows XP Pro SP2
SoftICE 4.3.1

So it would seem that you can run SoftICE with the ati "crap"

And, as omega_red says, type I3HERE OFF into softice then try running one of those problem programs.

JMI
August 23rd, 2004, 22:26
And it often helps if one actually mentions which version of the OS and software one is running when you want to discuss compatiability issues.

Regards,

doug
August 23rd, 2004, 23:05
I haven't noticed any DirectX issues here myself.

However, I have experienced the same type of problems as the others have reported. I also concluded that any full-screen debugging was to be done on my nVidia machine (geforce ti) & not on the ATI one (radeon 7500).

With the ATI card, as soon as a breakpoint triggered or I pressed ctrl-d, while in fullscreen, I'd get a BSOD. This was on windows XP with SoftICE 2.7. I never really bothered investigating the problem since I could get it going right away on the next computer. I'll test what blob suggested though, thanks for the tip.

Also, I wouldn't touch XP SP2 for a long time, it's probably going to break compatibility with A LOT of our tools since they usually don't follow the 'rules' of the OS

Silver
August 24th, 2004, 14:52
I do a lot of DX stuff, I code for it so have had the DX8, 8.1, 9, 9b and 9c SDK's installed and have had no problems with sice interfering. I think I had to mess with the DX debug library config to stop "break on mem leak" or something, but once I sorted that for DX8 I've never had a problem since.

omega_red
August 24th, 2004, 17:53
It's most probably issue with ATI drivers - I have the same reboot problem with radeon 7500 (w2k sp4, DS 4.3).

blob
August 26th, 2004, 07:11
Mh.. maybe it was already like that before:

I just reinstalled Windows XP (no SP).
-Newest Nforce Driver
-Newest ATi Graphics Driver
-DriverStudio 3.1 / SoftIce only installed.

No when i start Softice without any changes (Universal Video Mode) it seems to work fine under DX Games.
BUT if i start Softice with IceExt like i always did before Softice will break on the most games (of course there might be the on or other exception - like doom3) with this "Break due to Embedded Int3" Error. After typing I3HERE 0FF i receive a Windows Blue Screen saying:
" A problem has been deteceted and windows has been shutdown to prevent damage to your computer [...]. In particualar run a memory check and check for faulty or mismatched memory. Try changing video adapters.
[...] Stop 0x0000007F (...) [...]"

Now i checked my ram on Boot and my 1gig (2x512) is exactly 1048576k.
Also i dont get it why Softice works fine without IceExt and crashes on the Startup of DX Games with IceExt. Actually dont wanna miss it, it has some nice features.

omega_red
August 26th, 2004, 08:21
Quote:
[Originally Posted by blob]
No when i start Softice without any changes (Universal Video Mode) it seems to work fine under DX Games.
BUT if i start Softice with IceExt like i always did before Softice will break on the most games (of course there might be the on or other exception - like doom3) with this "Break due to Embedded Int3" Error. After typing I3HERE 0FF i receive a Windows Blue Screen saying:
" A problem has been deteceted and windows has been shutdown to prevent damage to your computer [...]. In particualar run a memory check and check for faulty or mismatched memory. Try changing video adapters.
[...] Stop 0x0000007F (...) [...]"

Yes, IceExt has some problem with DX - while I can debug windowed apps with clear Softice, IceExt crashes the system just like you said. I've informed Sten about it, and he said he will take a look at it. Suppose we have to wait for next IceExt version.