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Dedec0
May 10th, 2003, 18:10
Hi,

I go through a problem several times when I post/reply to a thread.

When we click the reply/post new thread we are given a login page if we are not logged, and then we go to the form page where we enter our text. BUT if you take to long to write it all, when you click on submit||preview, you will get an error like "no thread specified" or something, because you took too long and the server thought you wouldn't reply anymore.
This might happen because I use no cookies to be logged, but I think there can be a "cookie-free" way to it.
2 solutions I quickly thought were:
-show the form page even if the user isn't logged, and add the login and PW fields to that same page, so the user can take a day (or what) to elaborate its reply, without worring about that;
-just ask for the user's name/PW WITHOUT discarding what he just typed. I use Opera most of time, but sometimes IE's (when not at home, for example) "security" features blocks me from hitting "back" and I lose all text...

Could the admins make this change to the forum's scripts?
If anyone else would like that, please say too, so I won't be all alone... =D

Regards,

squidge
May 10th, 2003, 18:32
I just allow cookies for this domain and so don't have the problems you are having. I can understand you not liking cookies, but why not use them on a "only when I say they are ok" type of basis ?

Woodmann
May 10th, 2003, 18:53
Howdy,

I dont look at the cookie files I have too much
other stuff to do.

They are only enabled for all of the users so they
dont have to repeat stuff time after time.

Woodmann

Dedec0
May 10th, 2003, 19:09
Hi, Woodmann,

It is ok (kinda). If it could be done it would be better, but its ok. This forum is a great place.
I thought it were open source, like the admins could fiddle with it - just found out that it is comercial.

squidge> I could do that, but I really have a "thing" with cookies. I am not happy either with the way the browsers work with them or the sites work with it (kinda hate PHP/ASP session cookies) - I try my best avoiding them. :-d

Regards,

Woodmann
May 10th, 2003, 21:50
Howdy,

You can kill your cookies, you will just have to type faster

Woodmann

Dedec0
May 11th, 2003, 03:35
Quote:

You can kill your cookies,

I am a serial cookie killer! (obs: the COOKIE is serial ;-)
By the way, have you ever seen a webmail service that doesn't use cookies or javascript? Please tell me, because I don't.
Quote:

you will just have to type faster

Nononononono.... I don't have to type faster, in fact I have good typeing skills.
I have to think faster!

JMI
May 11th, 2003, 04:11
Or, you might try thinking before you begin to type.

Regards.

Dedec0
May 11th, 2003, 05:26
Quote:
Or, you might try thinking before you begin to type.


Yes, in fact I do - or at least I think I am doing it.

Tell me: what is your average time when writing a new thread? Plus the time to make necessary corrections? And what is the time the form page expires, when no unnecessary cookie is accepted?


JMI
May 11th, 2003, 11:54
Dedec0:

Here's a thought. Write your post in a text editor and edit it until it is exactly how you want it, then copy it (usually by using the "control" + "C" keys), then open your thread (or reply) and simply "paste" (usually the "control" key + "p" your message into the box and press the "submit" button. No time delay and no "timeout." Saves alot of problems, especially if your post is long. Give it a try.

Regards.

squidge
May 11th, 2003, 13:37
The way I normally do posts is to hit reply, write a load of complete rubbish, and then go back and edit the post multiple times until it resembles something comprehensible.

Unfortunately, this method does fail every so often though and just leaves a pile of complete crap in a post, but hey, no ones perfect

Woodmann
May 11th, 2003, 20:01
Howdy,

The time set to reply is 10 minutes.
Editing is a different story. I am not sure
of the time out with that function.

Woodmann

esther
May 11th, 2003, 20:07
hey all

find a stable anon proxy

Dedec0
May 13th, 2003, 03:59
JMI> Hi, JMI, fun is that I always feel a little harshness in your replies... maybe just me, but that is not the way I posted this thread nor my replies to it.
If you think my suggestion isn't worth, ok, but you don't need to give me a reply that won't help much, neither add any knowledge to anyone who might read this thread.

squidge> :biggrin: I did that once too, in another forum: I got replies WHILE I was editing the thread (lol) making a lot of confusion... I had to find another trick.

Woodmann> Howdy.
Do you have access to the vBulletin's PHP sources that make the board, or is it packaged as a executable program?
<offtopic>
I don't know about US-ian language local variations, but I used to watch a cartoon (sponge bob square pants) where a character (the squirrel, Sally, if I remember right) says "howdy" too, she were from Texas...
</offtopic>

esther> Hello, I really should... oh, lazy! But I don't get the connection of this with the discussion :redface: - is there one?

JMI
May 13th, 2003, 04:38
Dedec0:

Humour is often measured by the listener, but listener's response does not determine the intent of the author. You made a joke of "thinking faster". I made one about "thinking first". That was the intent of the big grin.

squidge then made a comment, also I believe intended in humour, about his technique. I then posted about a technique I often use of composing a long reply in a text editor ahead of time. Those comments were intended as a possible solution for avoiding the problems both you and squidge described. If you found this too harsh, I can only suggest that you were reading with too much seriousness, and perhaps a little defensiveness. You were apparently attempting to avoid a timeout, or the demand of signing in again, if you weren't using cookies. The method I suggested was intended to, and would avoid that problem.

You have gone to so much personal trouble to aviod using cookies that you have suggested that someone re-write the code for the operation of the vBulletin program just so you won't have to be worried by something that doesn't trouble in the least the majority of those visiting here. To request that things be changed just to conform to your personal preference is, itself, not an entirely reasonable request. You were offered solutions which do not seem to meet your personal criterial.

Free advise is worth what you pay for it. You are, of course, free to do with it as you will. Choosing to live with the consequences of your personal preferences for no cookies, is simply part the the learning process called life. More often than not, the world will not choose to conform to ones own personal preference. How you deal with that simple fact is also your choice.

Regards.

Dedec0
May 13th, 2003, 04:56
JMI,

Quote:
...That was the intent of the big grin.


Sorry. I wouldn't have thought that if I saw the smiley. My fault - Opera doesn't give me any hint about existance of some images that don't have an ALT string set, when images are turned off. By your words I couldn't really decide if it was humor or not...

Quote:
You have gone to so much personal trouble to aviod using cookies that you have suggested that someone re-write the code


I haven't gone through all this trouble. I just thought it is a thing that could be ammeliorated in the board, that's all. I suppose most of people just don't care about it.

Quote:
To request that things be changed just to conform to your personal preference is, itself, not an entirely reasonable request.


Its ok, I wasn't very much expecting it to be the board developers' priority of the year...

---

And I use the text editor technique too... hehe...

Kind regards and my appologies,

esther
May 13th, 2003, 06:23
Hi,
Dunno about Opera,in IE you have to put your proxy in the proxy server settings.

JMI:
Humour is often measured by the listener, but listener's response does not determine the intent of the author. You made a joke of "thinking faster". I made one about "thinking first". That was the intent of the big grin.

It always happens when you are serious


eg:Use your brain