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dion
October 6th, 2003, 07:01
any? how is it looks like? great/good/bad? true/fake?

thanks

dELTA
October 6th, 2003, 18:12
I haven't tried it myself, but I'm sure it's pretty cool, because Mark Russinovich is quite the mean mother******. What do you mean "true/fake"? And why don't you try it yourself, it's free you know?

hxxp://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/livekd.shtml

dion
October 6th, 2003, 21:40
that's why i ask it here, because i dont have any "home" computer to try

dELTA
October 7th, 2003, 06:27
I would guess that the program is of little use to you if you don't have any computer. But that's just an educated guess.

doug
October 7th, 2003, 13:35
Isn't livekd just an util to use to debug code on your own computer... before you had to debug a machine using another connected to it.

in any case, it's an util that works on top of windows' debugging tools. I don't think it offers much more than what the std debugging tools given away for free by microsoft.

acoder
October 8th, 2003, 16:43
KD and windbg from debugging tools and NTDDK,
Its useful to know about nt kernel symbols, like 'undocumented'
structures or variable addresses, proc names, ...
anyway importing some system modules dbg files (like ntoskrnl)
into sice will let u do the same as KD (windbg from what I know is
the same as KD but with GUI), however sice is in ring0 as we know

To use KD u would need two machines as doug said...
"Isn't livekd just an util to use to debug code on your own computer... before you had to debug a machine using another connected to it."

I add, u also need the symbols installed dl from m$ debugging site:
hxxp://www.microsoft.com/whdc/ddk/debugging/symbols.mspx

doug
October 9th, 2003, 16:13
Another important to mention is the symbols you download from the website are more often than not outdated.. especially if you're the type of user that likes to keep his system up-to-date.

I found these symbols to be near-useless... However, microsoft has implemented a symbol server from which you can download the right symbols, for the right Executable image - when you need it. There really isn't another choice when there's 2-3 patches/week

Numega's symbol retriever works well with that.. gives you both pdb's and nms.