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seletik
January 26th, 2004, 21:09
Hello everyone
Well this is my first post and im new at this reverse engineering thing, And well ive been reading different tuts and i can basically follow what im reading. Ive got windows XP and softice driver suite 2.6. Now ive tried to apply my "Craftsmenship" and give it a go. The tuts that im using have referenced newer versions of softice (for example v3.2). Now im using a driver suite for xp so im not sure if that changes anything. I use the exact version program that is specified to be "reversed" and follow the steps religiously. Now MY PROBLEM IS that i dont end up at the addresses that is Should. I end up with the correct code sometimes, but at a different address, and when i try to input another function i dont get the correct result. Basically nothing is coresponding to the tutorials and my opinoin is that it probally isnt the tutorial but maybe the program version has not changed but the "copy
protection" has been modified by the author. Keep in mind that im only trying to break name/password nag screens.
I've givin this a honest effort and could use some guidance cause im not going to let this bog me down. IM LIKE THE LITTLE TRAIN THAT COULD BUT IVE JUST RUN OUT OF TRACKS.
If anyone can possibly throw in some advice for a very new newbie i would so very much appreciate it. If i havent been clear i can explain whatever is
not understood. Even a tutorial link for a somewhat computer ignorant person.
Thanks, Seletik
Woodmann
January 26th, 2004, 21:46
Howdy,
Try this first :http://www.woodmann.com/krobar/beginner/crackme1.zip
Woodmann
Aimless
January 27th, 2004, 00:05
If you mean that the addresses shown in the tutorials do not match what you see in your machine, that is perfectly normal, as long as the code you see is correct.
As far as not seeing the correct code is concerned, it may also depend on the versions of softice you are using.
Write more about your issues. We are all here to help.
Have Phun
Aimless
January 27th, 2004, 00:09
Furthermore, here's an analogy to the tutorials and addresses...
1. Imagine you are going to the most hot and happening disco in the city with your girlfriend.
2. You read the rule book for the disco. It says that a jacket is compulsory.
What do you do? You wear a jacket and go.
The point is: You are more interested in wearing a jacket to gain entry into the disco, not the COLOR of the jacket (it can be white, black, navy blue, biege etc.)
Its the same in cracking: The tutorial is the rule book. The jacked is the code. The color is the address codes. Address codes are not important as long as your code is correct.
Of course, if you consistently find code not being the same as one mentioned in the tutorials (as opposed to the address), then write specifically about the problem and everyone here will help you take it further.
Have Phun
seletik
January 27th, 2004, 02:27
Quote:
[Originally Posted by Aimless]Furthermore, here's an analogy to the tutorials and addresses...
1. Imagine you are going to the most hot and happening disco in the city with your girlfriend.
2. You read the rule book for the disco. It says that a jacket is compulsory.
What do you do? You wear a jacket and go.
The point is: You are more interested in wearing a jacket to gain entry into the disco, not the COLOR of the jacket (it can be white, black, navy blue, biege etc.)
Its the same in cracking: The tutorial is the rule book. The jacked is the code. The color is the address codes. Address codes are not important as long as your code is correct.
Of course, if you consistently find code not being the same as one mentioned in the tutorials (as opposed to the address), then write specifically about the problem and everyone here will help you take it further.
Have Phun |
Okay that makes perfect sense as to what i am constantly seeing ...

Thanks for the help guys
dELTA
January 27th, 2004, 13:06
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The tutorial is the rule book. The jacked is the code. The color is the address codes. |
Ok, what did we say about posting here while being high? Don't let it happen again Aimless.

JMI
January 27th, 2004, 13:15
Hey, the difference between "jacked" and "jacket" is just the improper use of the first finger versus the middle finger and I suspect that aimless may be "improperly" using that "middle finger" again to waive at you after he reads your relpy.
Regards,
esther
January 27th, 2004, 13:25
Aimless will showed neither the "first" or "middle" finger.Probably the "fist" using lifting his elbow

naides
January 27th, 2004, 13:38
Quote:
[Originally Posted by Aimless]Furthermore, here's an analogy to the tutorials and addresses...
Its the same in cracking: The tutorial is the rule book. The jacked is the code. The color is the address codes. Address codes are not important as long as your code is correct.
Have Phun |
Quote:
[Originally Posted by DELTA]
Ok, what did we say about posting here while being high? Don't let it happen again Aimless.
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You guys have no Poetic Sensibility. . .
dELTA
January 27th, 2004, 13:45
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Aimless will showed neither the "first" or "middle" finger.Probably the "fist" using lifting his elbow  |
What the hell, is everyone on drugs here or what?
Anyway, since you forgot to tell the whole story I'll fill in some blanks:
The stubborn-and-drunk-with-power guard at the door to the disco is the anti-debug trick collection (and when he asks to see your ID it's the CRC check). Using your fake ID to get past him is the reading of the step-by-step tutorial without understanding what the hell you're doing, the annoying woman who tries to sell you a flower to give to your girlfriend is all the crap you have to get past to get Softice to work on your XP system, the pretty-boy in the corner who tries to steal your girlfriend is Alexey Solodovnikov. Taking those drugs with your girlfriend is like messing with the IDT to get past the ring 0 protection (it can turn out quite nice, but it can also go straight to hell without you ever knowing what happened), the drinks in the bar are the "unpackers" for your girlfriend's clothes, and your girlfriend's father who comes to beat you up after he finds out what you tried to do with her is the BSA.
I hope the world of cracking is much more clear to you now, son.
PS.
How's that for poetic sensibility naides?

evaluator
January 27th, 2004, 16:46
LOL, Aimless!
if lazy-newbie will simply ask:"where to find something..",
then we will strongly point him to search, & that's ok!
but if lazy-newbie will arrange same Q in poetry form,
should we rush into poetic embraces?
seems, you like an art word

esther
January 27th, 2004, 21:23
>What the hell, is everyone on drugs here or what?
JMI,Wotmann and I smoke weed hahahahhahahahha
>your girlfriend's father who comes to beat you up after he finds out what you tried to do with her is the BSA.
You mean OEP hahahahhahahha
Hmm its loots leik a james bong movies to em. YOU HAVE VIOLATE THE COPYRIGHT OF IAN FLEEMIGS!!!!!
Woodmann
January 27th, 2004, 21:37
You all are amazing.......
You make me laugh with your incredible humor.
I bet you could all make a visit to the porcelin throne funny.
(the toilet paper is like the wrapper.............
Woodmann
JMI
January 27th, 2004, 21:57
IF I smoked "weed," I would only do so on doctor's advise to assist with my "medical condition." Which would then be "legal" here in California, at least according to the State law. The Feds are still resisting the medical use of the hemp.
So Wood, we are now descending to bathroom humor? When you visit the throne do you "exude" brilliant thoughts??? Do you use various outdates computer manuals to wipe away needless subroutines?? Ah, nevermind.
Regards,
Woodmann
January 27th, 2004, 22:18
Howdy,
Whats so wrong with toilet humor ????
The last thing I want to be is grown up
OEP=Original Exit Point ??
TA TA, Woodmann
Aimless
January 28th, 2004, 02:45
But you gotta admit...It *really* cleared up all doubts about address in tutorial and address in softice issues that a fledgling first-timer usually has.
I'm thinking maybe I should write an essay on this kind of thing for the first-timer, with the story as an analogy.
*Critical Chain* anyone?
Have Phun,
evaluator
January 28th, 2004, 03:17
>with the story as an analogy.
NO MORE ANALORGY! NO MORE ANALORGY!

dELTA
January 28th, 2004, 14:21
I'd be glad to fill in the blanks of that story too, Aimless.

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