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Pixeldog
August 1st, 2004, 14:11
Hello out there, I have just found this forum and am pleased to find a great deal of info when reading between the lines. However since I am not in anyway a reverse engineering guru, just a pixel shifter (I make it look great) there are a few things I really need to know.

First off I also do cad/cam work with an industrial program at my afternoon shift job (pays the bills) and I am needing to use the program from work at home more often then usual. Here's the problem, the program with the dongle needs to stay at work during the day shift for the cad/cam operator during the day so the only time I have is the weekend to bring the dongle home and use it.

I have been reading and researching just about everything I can get my hands on, even the article found on this forum which deals with the type of hardlock this program uses.

After reading the FAQ section I know not to ask for the obvious but I am eager to learn the proper ways of getting by this program protection if anyone was willing to guide the blind, ie: is it worth trying to break the dongle or is there something that could speed up the process.

I have downloaded many tools from a few sites but find that they don't work to well with WinXP so I am going to install dual OS Win 95/98 to help make those tools and the program that I have run easier. Turns out that the program I use works better on Win 95/98, there are updates but the company I work for is a little scared to dip into the pocket and spend the money, you know "if it works why upgrade" attitude.

Looking forward to any comments.

dELTA
August 1st, 2004, 17:37
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...or is there something that could speed up the process...

You're dangerously close to a crack request, proceed with caution...

JMI
August 1st, 2004, 18:18
Danger Will Robinson Danger

Woodmann
August 1st, 2004, 19:07
Lets get down to it........

You want to have a running version of this software at home.
If this program runs best under 95/98, it should be no problem for
you to find out how to bypass the dongle.

Now, you need to decide how much effort you want to put into this.
You can buy a replacement dongle or, you can actually learn something.

I will tell you right now that if you want to learn, it will take the most time.

Everything you want to know is available to you right here.
There is a search function at the top and links at the bottom of each page.

Good luck, Woodmann

evaluator
August 2nd, 2004, 02:13
another chance for "speed up process" with no time loss:
is "use the program from work at home" is iLLegaL!?

!?!

JMI
August 2nd, 2004, 02:45
Not if the Boss says he can. And, of course, he could ask the Boss to buy another dongle so he could do more work at home, unless, of course, the Boss doesn't know.

Regards,

Pixeldog
August 2nd, 2004, 10:02
As mentioned in my long winded intro of my problem, the boss is to cheap to upgrade the program to a version that works with WinXp, the last thing he wants to do is buy another dongle, already went that route. He said I could buy it, but that would require more funds then what I have at this time, besides he wants me to complete or catch up on the work load, "go figure".

I just thought that since I do have the dongle on weekends that there might be a chance that a seasoned pro from the boards could help with the learning curve of busting this damn dongle protection, not just give a crack.

I have followed much of the information that is within this forum and found it to be interesting and I would imagine informative for someone who has RE skills, but like I said earlier I am a pixel shifter (artistic type) and grasping some of this RE stuff when the starting point eludes me is not easy.

So again if there is someone willing to guide my exploration into the darkness of RE and put the seed of knowledge into my head i would be very gratefull.

Thanks

Fake51
August 2nd, 2004, 12:27
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[Originally Posted by dELTA]You're dangerously close to a crack request, proceed with caution...


Guys, go easy on him, he specifically stated that he wanted to learn. His "speeding up the process" seems intended not at crack requests but more likely at info on how to bypass dongles. Anyone here that doesn't remember the old essays on fravias site about useless dongle protections that didn't work the dongles right?

Anyway, never worked with dongles, so I don't have useful info to share. Only the generic:

Never lose sight of your main goal: to make the sucker work. There's never just one way of doing things, and many times some ways are easier than others.

Fake

NoLOcK´s
August 6th, 2004, 15:20
Hi, all

dELTA
August 7th, 2004, 12:40
Mental note:
Insert into FAQ that posts like that will result in immediate ban...

Pixeldog
August 7th, 2004, 13:01
dELTA.... I am confused, I don't believe anything I am asking is against the rules that I have taken the time to read a number of times. Just looking for a mentor, nothing more than that.

JMI
August 7th, 2004, 14:36
One of the requirements here is that you do some of your own work and show what you have done. So far, you have not shown that you have done anything, other than "download some tools which do not work well with WinXP." This is not a mentoring society. Those here attempt to assist with specific, identified problems. This is not were to come to "learn all you need to know about reversing this dongle" from the ground up, in ten easy steps. It simply doesn't work that way, and it shouldn't.

Reversing dongles, depending on type and version, is generally not an easy task and you have also done nothing to demonstrate either your skill set or that you have spent the time necessary to acquaint yourself with whatever literature may be available on reversing your particular brand of dongle. Since, from your brief description of you situation, you dongle is not likely to be a really current version, there is likely to be information available on the net describing other's efforts at reversing its protection system. That is what searching the net is all about, entering search terms in combination, attempting to get good leads to information. You should know the name of your dongle. Try searching for "name_of_dongle and reversing" (without the quotes) and then try it again substituting "cracking" for "reversing." In otherwords, work at it, don't just wait for someone to take you by the hand and lead you through the dark codewoods.

Regards,

dELTA
August 7th, 2004, 15:28
Pixeldog, although I agree with JMI (which was the reason for my first post in this thread), my last post was referring to the post by "NoLOcK´s".

qww
August 14th, 2004, 10:47
it's true