I've just recently installed SoftICE 4.3.1 on my XP SP2 machine, and although it runs fine, it refuses to break. I'm using the following commands to test:

BPX GetWindowTextW
BPX GetDlgItemTextW
BPX GetLocalTime

In the case of GetLocalTime, I've written a small Delphi app that calls getlocaltime on the click of a button. SoftICE will just not pop. For interest, I directed softice to handle all INT3's, then embedded an INT3 command in my delphi app, and it does break. It just won't stop on breakpoints, period. I'm pretty sure I have the correct exports loaded, and I do have the latest OSI data files. Does anyone have any idea why this isn't working? Thanks.

1) Try searching on this board for "softice breakpoints" and you'll get the answer why your breakpoints do not stick, while the int3 does.

2) A small hint...you need to be in the correct context to set the breakpoint to work. Check the SICE manual to see _how_ to be in the correct context.

Have Phun

Thank you! You solved a few hours of frustration with that. At least for once, it wasn't a lack of RTFM on my part... the SoftICE manual is out of date on the need to be in context. That said, I should have used the (shudder) search function. My apologies. Thanks again

The answer to that one is even found directly in the FAQ, which you should have read before posting in the first place...

And I believe the description of the use of context sensitive breakepoints and the "option" to change then to the "old" way, IS discussed in the manual and in mentioned here in the other Threads you will find with a search criteria mentioned above. For example, this thread:

http://www.woodmann.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5470&highlight=softice+breakpoints

Regards,

Well, I have the original PDF manual, for version 3.0 (NuMega's version 3, not Compuware's) and while it discusses being in context, it states explicitly that you don't (didn't) have to be in context if it was a breakpoint in a shared module - not so anymore, obviously. Also, if you mean the FAQ in the html readme file that comes with SoftICE - I don't have the readme for 3.0 or above, never did. I have SoftICE lite, in other words only the symbol loader and softice itself. If you mean a different FAQ, please point me towards, I'd like to read it. And without sounding pompous, I'm not some sort of computer/forum n00b... I'm just a lazy twit that can't get off his bum and search forums ... will try harder

Scratch that annoyed comment about not being a n00b... I really shouldn't back chat to an admin :P (yes, even _I_ know that )

Well SpiderVenom, by definition, has a poison tongue.

There have been patches released for XP SP2, discussed here:

http://www.woodmann.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6253

Maybe, since you ARE running SP2, you might NEED them.

And, of course, you didn't NEED the version 3.1 readme file to know the information about the option to use or not use context sensitive breakpoints and the requirements of context sensitive breakpoints, because it was already posted here and would have been found by a search of this Board. That was the purpose of the prior comments, and dELTA's comment, that it was such a 'frequent" question, it ended up in the FAQ.

Regards,

Ooooh, BURN

Well I'll just have a retreat into my hole and wait for my tongue to refill...

In the meantime:

I will use the forum search before asking stupid questions.
I will use the forum search before asking stupid questions.
I will use the forum search before asking stupid questions.
I will use the forum search before asking stupid questions.
I will use the forum search before asking stupid questions.
I will use the forum sea...

And to answer your question about which FAQ I was talking about, it was the one mentioned with the (apparently not) BIG (enough) RED LETTERS on the main page of this forum...

I like your mantra though.

Haven't you realised by now that it doesn't working on idiots like me unless it takes up the entire screen and is accompanied by at least ten popups, several dialog boxes, and a sound bite?

Of course the "sound bite" would have to be in at least 12-15 languages to have any chance of reaching the majority of our viewing audience.

Regards,

A sound bite is just what you need... I'm sure there's plenty of people willing to scream RTFF in their language. You could even do a documentary about the regrets people have had over not reading the faq... "Hi, I'm SpiderVenom. I really wish I'd read the FAQ. I just never gave any thought to how it could affect my life."

Yeah SpiderVenom, you give 'em hell. Don't take none of that admin lip..

Now Kayaker, "everyone" knows Spiders don't have lips, so they NEED to take some. If admin lip is all they can get, then they just have to settle for that.

Regards,

Maybe we don't have lips, but we do have fangs, perfect for biting smart alec moderators

Admins are evil. Give them a little bit of power, let them run a forum, and they think they own the world (there better not be a http://forum.world.com/). As an example, I visited the EXETools forum a while ago... they have this sadomasochistic self-important admin who won't let people download files unless they have made 3 posts of some "substinence" !!!!

Cue long silence as SpiderVenom stares at JMI

Hang on one second... I'm an admin at my website... ... ...

>Admins are evil. Give them a little bit of power, let them run a forum, and they think they own the world

They pay for the servers,they decide rules.If you don't like it,fuck of? LOL

You most certainly are Nice to meet a kindred spirit

Yah, we got to do something about that evil admin over at exetools. Imagine, preventing people from freeloading on the FTP unless they actually have a whole 10 posts "of some substance."

Imagine the good old days when there were 14,000+ members with access to the FTP and NOONE could get on because everyone wanted to be on. Imagine them trying to make it more accessible for those who actually post of the Forum. Oh the shame of it all.

But I hear he has taken spider anti-venom, just as a precaution.

Regards,

Hooray for the good old days!

Seriously, I do agree with your policy about the ftp. It's just that for me, it'll take several years to get the experience to post something original. Ohwell... I guess I'll just have to become a big famous ubercracker and shame you for eternity

Antivenom eh... I wonder if they sell anti-antivenom

Small correction: The requirement on exetools is not for 10 Posts of "something original," but only for 10 Post "of some substance." That simply means things like "good, I want it," "Thank you type posts" and general comments which appear to have nothing to do with the content of the thread (like most of the posts in this thread ) won't count towards getting FTP access.

After one has 10 posts there "of some substance" then the users may post as much B.S. as they want, because it is then obvious that they are not doing so "just to get FTP access." Reading the posts there, one will find many, many posts which are not very "substantial" but are of "some substance" and have not been deleted.

We have had many new registrants attempt to get access to the FTP password by posting 10 quick short statements, sometimes of just nonsense, thinking, mistakenly, they will get instant access to the password as soon as they pass the 10 post threashold. However, the requirements include membership for 30 days and no one is getting automatic promotion, so that attempt, and there have been several, including another two today, simply gets them banned.

Regards,

Of course... but you gotta love threads that go offtopic and end up with a "quipping" (I'll probably get laughed at for using a word that old) war. Ah the joys of open forums.

Is this thread for real? I mean, here we are on the Tools board discussing spider venom?

Why don't we simply shift the entire thing to the off-topic.

IDEA: Why don't we simply open up another section called: "DUMB/BAD/RIDICULOUS/LAME NEWBIE SECTION". All such questions shall be auto forwarded to this section. This will get the newbies who have yet to RTFM be careful in framing their next question as they don;t want their posts to end up in the stoopid section. Any hey, we can get a few laughs when all our nerves are taut trying to break that damned Flexlm routines. (Who in his right mind invented FLexlm bTW?).

Have Phun

I'm going to ignore Aimless' attempt to get this thread OT or out the forum, and perpetuate this nonsense...

JMI, not that I need/use/have ever logged into it, but why does the exetools FTP have loads of warez on it? It seems counterproductive to me - if it just had up to date RCE tools (like the exetools webpage, but newer) then surely the demand for access would drop?

Doesn't make much sense to me, any idiot with a few minutes can get access to a 0 or 1 day FTP, or failing that break out a copy of edonkey and use search...

*edit*, I'm a muppet, I typed forum where I meant FTP.

Ok, moved to off-topic, babble away...

Silver, I'm not sure what you mean by "lots of warez" on the FTP. Generally, Aaron's rules limit uploading to "programming and reversing tools" and efforts to upload general "warez" are deleted.

I have nothing to do with making of these policy decisions on what should or should not be uploaded there. But the Forum and FTP are in China and not generally subject to the same rule as this Forum may be. I simply attempt to help Aaron enforce the rules he makes and maintain some semblance of order in the postings.

Regards,

Fair enough... I'm only going by the topic titles in that forum, I've never actually logged on/looked further. By "lots", I meant "any" .... Just my personal opinion, wasn't aimed as a criticism against you. I'm far more blatant if I do that

I did not take it as criticism and "I" wouldn't be accepting any on that issue in any case, because it is not a policy over which I have any input or control.

And, at least in this country, everyone is not only entitled to have opinions (even on both sides of any issue) but to express them as well.

Regards,