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The SharK
November 10th, 2004, 09:37
Which graphics card do you use for Driversuite v3.1 ?

I'm going to buy one, because my Radeon 9200 won't
do the job


regards,


The SharK

Silver
November 10th, 2004, 13:24
Won't do the job? Anyway, pretty much any graphics card currently available will "work". You can pick up a Geforce 4Ti range for about £30.

doug
November 10th, 2004, 14:54
I never had a problem getting nVidia cards work under softice.
geforce2/4 mx are probably the cheapest you can get (especially if you get a used one)
I'm also using a geforce ti 4.. but they cost more than 30 around here ;-)

I've had varying results with ATI card/drivers.

lifewire
November 10th, 2004, 14:57
I used it first with a viper 550 (they are ancient and so was my pc) and i have now an ati radeon 9600 xt.

The SharK
November 11th, 2004, 02:36
I have bought an A180T 64mb DDR Nvidia GeFORCE 4 MX 440.


After installation of it, everything worked fine in Driversuite v3.1
I could break without Driversuite freezing.....very nice !


But after a while, it started freezing again, like before....

So now I have two graphics card, and I haven't solved the problem.


I have windows XP SP2, and I have installed the patch for it (OSINFO.DAT)
and it's installed on a Pentium4 3g hertz.

What should I do ?

Uninstall my SP2 ?
Install god ooooold win98 (joking).
Throw the damn P4 out of the window (kidding).

Stop using Driversuite, and build my own debugger.

regards,


a SAD shark

bilbo
November 11th, 2004, 02:51
Quote:
[Originally Posted by The SharK]I'm going to buy one, because my Radeon 9200 won't
do the job


Well, the problem with the more recent Softice releases, which support the so called "Universal Video Driver" (Ddraw must be set to 1 in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NTice) is not in the graphic card, but could be in the software driver released by the hardware vendor.
That module must be listed in the value InstalledDisplayDrivers (again in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NTice), without extension, and must correctly support the DirectDraw Driver Interface documented in Microsoft DDK.
So, be sure to have downloaded the latest driver release from the vendor site.

Quote:
[Originally Posted by The SharK]But after a while, it started freezing again, like before....

So, we may exclude problems in the vendor's driver. Check again the two values in the registry... Maybe are you playing some "dirty" videogame which interacts with the video driver?

Regards, bilbo

disavowed
November 11th, 2004, 03:09
better solution: use ollydbg

The SharK
November 11th, 2004, 03:27
Quote:
[Originally Posted by disavowed]better solution: use ollydbg


I like OllyDbg, but it hasn't got the power like SoftIce !
In my opinion Softice is the KING !


Quote:
So, we may exclude problems in the vendor's driver. Check again the two values in the registry... Maybe are you playing some "dirty" videogame which interacts with the video driver?


No, I'm not into playing games

bilbo
November 11th, 2004, 08:40
Quote:
[Originally Posted by disavowed]better solution: use ollydbg
Maybe he wants to learn some kernel internals, why not?

Quote:
No, I'm not into playing games

I was just kidding...

So, just as a starting point, check the two keys I told you.

The first, "Ddraw", must be set to 1. This is the same as selecting the "Universal Video Driver" in DriverStudio Configuration -> Softice -> Video.
Select the Universal Video Driver (if it was not already selected) and check the value Ddraw. Set it to 1 if it sticks to 0.

Next...
There are two relevant values under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NTice.

The first is named "InstalledDisplayDrivers": it is a list, semicolon separated, without extensions, containing all the drivers in your system which are DirectDraw compatible.
Normally the first is the real driver of your board, and the second (Windows XP) is RDPDD (RDPDD.DLL is the kernel module implementing the Remote Desktop Protocol - you don't need it normally). How can you find the name of your module? Go to ControlPanel->System->Hardware->Peripherals->Video Board->Driver->Details. Put it manually as first value if it is not in the list.

Another value is ExcludedDisplayDrivers. It has the same format of the previous and enumerates the modules not-DirectDraw compliant. On my system "VGA;MNMDD". VGA.SYS is the driver used by Windows in Safe Mode boot. MNMDD.DLL is used by Microsoft NetMeeting.

But you are saying that before something NTICE was working, and after something it was no more working. Can you remember was happened between 'before' and 'after'?

In any case you can always disinstall your graphic board (ControlPanel->System->Hardware->Peripherals->Video Board->right mouse button) and rescan (right button: detect hardware changes) in order to automatically reinstall video driver. Then you can see if NTICE starts again working.

Good luck, bilbo